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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >I suppose "picked up" was a bit of an understatement. However I don't think > >the reality of the fact that a Honeywell 316 is sitting in my sun room has > >quite sunk in. Thank you for the advice. I will certainly follow it. > > Which brings up the point of what I'm wondering. Just how big is a > Honeywell 316? What peripherals does it support, and what OS's? I'm only > familiar with DPS-6, DPS-8, and DPS-8000 systems, and of those, even the > DPS-6 isn't exactly small. My understanding is that it ran a small single-user disk-based OS and possibly a realtime OS... Bill Poduska and David Udin & Co. worked with these a bit and based the architecture of the first Prime Computers on the Honeywell 316. I always assumed that the early Prime DOS and RTOS were made to resemble something they'd used before (they weren't ready yet for their magnum opus). -dq p.s.: Didn't the 316 share basic architecture with the 516 & 716?

24 years, 2 months

Questions about a PDP11/93

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Y'all, I went on a donation pickup today (30-odd Compaq P133 junkers) and after we collected the crap, the guy said "Y'all don't have a way to dispose of mainframe type stuff, do you?" They have a PDP11/93 in their IS control room that's still plugged in. Evidently was in service till a few months ago. <Quoting Wayne from "Wayne's World", as he ogles that guitar> Ooohh, yes. It WILL be mine. <End Quote> The first problem is that my boss was discussing disposal/hauling fees with them, so I couldn't act very interested. The second problem is that I'm completely ignorant of QBus systems, so even if I had been able to crawl around on it, I'd still be clueless. Well, I'd probably know the PSU requirements. It's in a ~36" rack, has 2 tape drives showing with "PDP11/93" badges on each, in 3U modules. One blank [1] 6U front cover that I assume is the QBus backplane? and 2 blank [1] 4U units. The rack itself has the 2-inch louvred side-plates. It looks like it just came out of the crate. Hell, it looks like somebody polished it yesterday. So the questions: Can anybody point me to pictures of an 11/93 that's NOT in a BA23? What's it worth, obsession aside? It's probably going to cost me about $0.50/lb, USD. That's delivered to my garage. I'm guessing that's in the $200 realm. What's the power input? 110V? 220V? Single/triple phase? The tape drives looked like the media would be about the size of a TK50, but there's a horizontal locking lever. I think. I did look at the badges next to the drives; they just say PDP11/93. Does that mean there may be 2 CPUs? There are also a couple of Digital line printers there. I didn't get a model, but I did see ribbon spools about an inch wide. The one that comes with its own table.... They are also reputedly working, and also look like they were polished yesterday. Are they useful? Aquiring minds want. Doc

24 years, 2 months

Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage

by vcf＠vintage.org

HELP SAVE THE COMPUTER GARAGE! Jim Willing's Computer Garage has been around for ages. Due to a series of unfortunate events, the Computer Garage collection is in peril, and your help is needed. Jim moved to the midwest last year and has been trying to relocate his collection. The people in whose hands he left the remainder of the collection didn't do a good job of keeping up on storage rent, and so now the collection is in jeopardy of being lost. Additionally, Jim has fallen on hard times. Jim is a very swell guy, has been a computer collector for longer than most of us, and has been a speaker at every single VCF since the beginning, so I feel I owe him a debt of gratitude and have decided to try to help him. For those of you who don't know Jim Willing or have never visited the Computer Garage, go here: http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw The Computer Garage is impressive, and needs to stay intact. I'd like to announce the formation of the Save The Computer Garage Fund. All proceeds from anything I announce for sale to the list will go towards this fund. The goal is to raise $1000. I will be putting up a webpage on the VCF website to solicit donations. In the meantime, if you would like to contribute to the fund, please e-mail me and let me know what you can give. Time is of the essence. I'll be pulling out stuff that I have excess of and posting them to the list for sale. Watch out for that in the next 24 hours. Please help if you can. I know times are tough but even $5 will suffice. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years, 2 months

Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage

by GOOI＠oce.nl

I have often visited Jim's website. Are donations possible by VISA/MasterCard? Or by snail-mail, what's the address? (this is the easiest option for me) - Henk. http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj > HELP SAVE THE COMPUTER GARAGE! > > Jim Willing's Computer Garage has been around for ages. > Due to a series of unfortunate events, the Computer Garage > collection is in peril, and your help is needed. > For those of you who don't know Jim Willing or have never > visited the Computer Garage, go here: > http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw > > The Computer Garage is impressive, and needs to stay intact. > > I'd like to announce the formation of the Save The Computer > Garage Fund. > All proceeds from anything I announce for sale to the list > will go towards this fund. The goal is to raise $1000. > In the meantime, if you would like to contribute to the fund, > please e-mail me and let me know what you can give. > Time is of the essence. > Please help if you can. I know times are tough but even $5 > will suffice.

24 years, 2 months

Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@vintage.org] > Sent: 20 February 2002 11:10 > To: Classic Computers Mailing List > Cc: Bay Area Computer Collector List > Subject: Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage > > > > HELP SAVE THE COMPUTER GARAGE! > > Jim Willing's Computer Garage has been around for ages. Due > to a series > of unfortunate events, the Computer Garage collection is in peril, and > your help is needed. I'll link off my museum site (Binary Dinosaurs) too. How can us UK types send in donations? -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

24 years, 2 months

OT: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 20, Joe wrote: > As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, February 20, time will, > for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or to be > more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. > > The last time there was such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days > of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock - at 10.01am on January 10, > 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that > will never happen again. I remember 12:34 5/6/78 quite well...it was amusing... -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 2 months

KeyStone Learning Spam

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I have complained, via email, to the registered admin contact and the registered billing contact. I humbly suggest that everyone do so, *politely*. Doc Domain Name: KEYSTONELEARNING.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS.XMISSION.COM Name Server: NS1.XMISSION.COM Updated Date: 30-oct-2001 Registrant: KeyStone Learning Systems (KEYSTONELEARNING3-DOM) 2241 Larsen Parkway Provo, UT 84606 US Domain Name: KEYSTONELEARNING.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Roth, Jeff (RJ538-ORG) isd(a)KEYLEARNSYS.COM KeyStone Learning Systems IS Dept. 2241 Larsen Parkway Provo , UT 84606 US 801-375-8680 Fax- 801-373-6872 Billing Contact: Clint Argyle (CA59-ORG) clinta(a)KEYLEARNSYS.COM KeyStone Learning Systems 2241 Larsen Parkway Provo, UT 84606 US 801-375-8680 Fax- 801-373-6872

24 years, 2 months

OT: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Sorry, I mis-spoke, that was european dd/mm (20/02) and US mm/dd (02/20) Megan

24 years, 2 months

OT: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

This only happens if you happen to record your day/month in the european order mm/dd (20/02) instead of the us order dd/mm (02/20) so, for the us, it is 2002 0220 2002 which is not the same effect as you describe.. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

24 years, 2 months

Apple IIe scrap parts

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I am in need of a top cover for a IIe Platinum, the one with the numeric >keyboard. This is from a beige colored IIe (at least I think.. it is pretty dirty, but it really doesn't look platinum... I'll give it a quick squirt with Simple Green... but unless I tell you otherwise, it is beige). If you want it anyway, I am sure I can fit the cover in a Priority Mail box, so shipping will only be $3.50. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 2 months

3M Super Strength Adhevise SUCKS!

by vcf＠vintage.org

Just wanted to let everyone know that 3M Super Strength Adhevise is absolutely THE WORST adhesive to use on plastics. I bought it specifically for gluing borken plastic pieces as it is advertised as being for such, but all it has done in the two projects I've used it with is make a big mess and ruin everything. All it does is melts the plastic, causing the broken edges to no longer fit snugly, and then it gets all over your fingers when you're trying to press the parts together, which they don't do. It either doesn't make a good bond and requires regluing which then builds up glue along the edge ruining the fit, or adheres but the end result looks shitty. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years, 2 months

STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>> however... I can't believe my $60 VCR had any sweeping effects on store >> policy). > >It wories me that you would consider paying $60 for a new VCR. I'd not >want to pay less than $500.... Well... I had a specific need for six VCRs... the criteria: Must be Stereo, Must be same model, Must be disposable.... that last one is why I bought the on sale, $59.95 models. For my PERSONAL use... I haven't bought a VCR in ages... I am still using my old $2000 Sony editing deck (bought from a building landlord's clearance when the tenant was arrested by the FBI and jailed for printing his own bank checks... I paid $15 or there abouts). My 2nd VCR is a VERY old GE VCR... and my 3rd is a recent hitachi salvage from work. All 3 are older VCRs, that have parts readily available, and I do regular cleanings and maintenance on them (not crappy cleaning tapes... open them up and clean them out). I won't buy a VCR for personal use that I can't readily get repair parts for. And I REFUSE to buy any made by Funai... since they won't sell parts except to authorized Funai repair centers... which means I have 5 VCR/TV combos with useless VCRs because of bad $5 clutches... which the repair centers want $100 to replace, and won't sell me the *#&#*%# part! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 2 months

OT Quad audio amps (was: cleaning pots on my vintage audio am p)

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:15:30 -0500 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: OT Quad audio amps (was: cleaning pots on my vintage audio am > p) > > >Seriously, though, it's just an amplifier. It shouldn't matter > >what you're running through it. The signal will be analog only, > >of course, so no SPDIF without a converter. > > I'm about to experiment with hooking a 20 year old Technics > turntable up to my B/W G3 using a small pre-amp between them. It'll > allow me to convert all my old vinyl to MP3 as well as provide a > means of listening to any vinyl without having a full stereo stack > sitting here. The line-level input on the Mac ought to pass the > signal on out to the Harman/Kardon Soundsticks without a problem. Presumably the "small pre-amp" has RIAA equalization. Otherwise you will have an interesting signal-processing problem. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

24 years, 2 months

Slashdot: Installing Debian GNU/Linux on Alphas

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Chris Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] > Like most netnews groups, SlashDot does not check the > accuracy of every > submission. So before you go bashing /. as being stupid > enough to think a > DECstation is Alpha based, try bashing the author. Get *your* facts > straight. Veering further off topic, I have noticed -- as a personal observation -- that there is an over-abundance of idiocy on slashdot. That's even compared to other similar venues. It's part of the reason I don't read it much any more. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Apple IIe scrap parts

by mythtech＠Mac.com

I have just finished stripping an Apple IIe, and have remaining the shell (no filler plates for the back), the cover, and a broken keyboard (don't know if it works, but it is missing a few keys that have been snapped off, as well as the light cover), no keyboard cable. These items are free + shipping for anyone that wants them (your IIe missing a cover? want keyboard parts to rebuild another broken one?). Or you can pick them up in NJ (07450). I'm not holding these long... they are on my cart to head to the dumpster already. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 2 months

Looking for a remote

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I need the remote control for a Hero Jr. and some cartridges for same. If any one has spares they want to sell or trade contact me offline at jrkeys_at_concentric.net. Thanks.

24 years, 2 months

Drive Manuals - TM100 and YE Data

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

I've missed the beginnings of some of these threads (digest mode -- It's hard to scroll through and catch all the good bits), but people are looking for some drive manuals, I gather.... I have a photocopy of a Tandon TM-100 manual, and I also have a photocopy of a YE Data 8" floppy service manual, but I'm not sure of the model number.... Those looking can contact me off-list for more... Also, I have some spare TM-100 drives that I'd be willing to give for postage only. Again, off-list please... Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

24 years, 2 months

Mark-8 Reproduction Toggle Switches Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Allied Electronics (www.alliedelec.com). Like I said, I cleaned out > their stock, thinking it might be nice to have a few spares for the > Mark-8 or my IMSAI. They seemed to indicate they could get more, with > a 6-8 week lead time, though. Allied Electronics (a Tandy company for a few years) provided me with most of the parts I used to build my SOL-PC into a working system (a few parts from James Electronics and even fewer from The Outhouse)... Love 'em! -dq

24 years, 2 months

Mark-8 Reproduction Toggle Switches Needed

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

I'm getting together parts to build a Mark-8 (using a set of the PC boards and docs that Steve G has been selling on eBay). I've got everything but the case either on order or on hand, but I've searched high and low for about 8 C&K #7108J4ZQE2 black lever-handle toggle switches with no success. I found the SPDT switches, but I still need the momentary ones. Any suggestions? Tried Mouser, DigiKey, Jameco, JDR, Newark, and Allied (which is where I found the first type) as well as several other smaller parts houses with no luck. C&K/ITT/Cannon has offered to make me up a couple as samples, but I need at least 6 and would be more comfortable if I had a couple of spares. -Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com) Web Page: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.

24 years, 2 months

Fw: Apple IIe computers

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Contact them directly if interested. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cletus Schertz" <scher002(a)tc.umn.edu> To: <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:43 PM Subject: Apple IIe computers > Read an article that you may be wanting old computers. We have two Apple > IIe computers. Are they of interest to you?? >

24 years, 2 months

PDP 11/24

by rtejada2＠codetel.net.do

Hello: I have a problem with a pdp11/24 after I boot the switch my device appears on my console I type DU0 and return but after test the memory 40000000 it test it again and not rt11 software comes in. Thank for any help Ricardo Tejada

24 years, 2 months

RS/6000 FAQ?

by kris＠catonic.net

With all this talk of RS/6000s, I've become a little interested in what these machines can do / are capable of. Is there a hardware FAQ like the FAQABOSS or Sun Hardware Reference? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. <kris(a)nospam.catonic.net> | IM: KrisBSD | HSV, AL. ------------------------------------------------------- "Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony."

24 years, 2 months

Average lifting weight

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] > Wow, what's it made of depleted Uranium? I can barley carry > my MicroVax > 3400 by myself up the stairs. I think your machine is > bigger, However. Let's just say I don't intend to move it past the first floor. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Rant about cars and how stupid the world is with stupid people running it

by fauradon＠beckman.com

> And what about the morons running around with driving lights all the time? > At least you can see them coming.

24 years, 2 months

OT: Source for XMS driver

by AlistairMacDonald＠economist.com

www.freedos.org has at least one and a few other bits and pieces: http://www.freedos.org/perlfect/search/search.cgi?lang=en&q=himem >>> RCini(a)congressfinancial.com 19/02/2002 19:03:32 >>> Does anyone have the source code to a sample XMS driver like HIMEM.SYS? Another learning project is in the works...

24 years, 2 months

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