> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net]
> In order to really use it, you have to be playing a Quadraphonic
> recorded record right? LP's were it back then, right?
It must have a quadraphonic line-in if it's worth having around
at all. :) (Hey, my <on topic>SGI has one...)
Seriously, though, it's just an amplifier. It shouldn't matter
what you're running through it. The signal will be analog only,
of course, so no SPDIF without a converter.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Hi everybody,
Here's an odd one. Hypothetically, if I have a keyboard, with no
internal sampler (a hypothetical Ensoniq ZR-76, say... for which
I could probably never hope to find the sampler upgrade board ;),
and would like to use an Atari ST to do some sampling (and play
back of samples, too -- triggered by the keyboard), is there a
way to do it?
I'm not familiar with Atari ST software, but I just happen to
have an ST520 setting around not doing much, and wonder whether
it could be used for this purpose. ISTR that STs had decent
MIDI capabilities for the time.
Otherwise, what sort of MIDI-ish stuff can be done with this
machine?
It might make a good secondary sequencer, patch editor, etc,
anyway...
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On February 23, Doc wrote:
> And which brand/type of cyanoacrylic will e use to affix the
> virtual pike to the virtual wall?
>
> Yes, Dave, I know. Virtual KrazyGlue.
Nonono...Virtual epoxy. Mix the virtual base and the virtual
hardener...hey wait, I dated her!
-Dave "Virtual Epoxy Resin" McGuire
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
>
> How's this for clueless eBay?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299
> --
> Eric Dittman
> dittman(a)dittman.net
> Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
>
They might have picked that price by doing a search of dealer websites.
Besides thats the BIN price. Nothing says you couldn't get it for something
like $1. I'd be tempted to bid, but the cost of shipping scares me.
Ah.... I think I see your point. A VAX-4000/300 that they're claiming is a
150Mhz Alpha?
Zane
Wouldn't it be neat if we could get a bunch of us to
bid on this in $0.01 increments? Perhaps by the end
of the auction, it might be up to 50 or 60 cents?
Unfortulately, someone might actually want it, and I'd
hate to ruin their chances :-)
BTW, this is _not_ a cut on VAXes... I _like_ the critters,
and have a few myself :-)
-al-
-acorda(a)1bigred.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:22 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: eBay - Completely Off
>
>
> How's this for clueless eBay?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299
> --
> Eric Dittman
> dittman(a)dittman.net
> Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
>
Hell0,
Anybody need any plastic case parts from a DEC R400x DSSI expansion
cabinet? I believe most of the parts fit the BA440 case, as well. I
don't have the base, However. While not really part of the case, I do
have the backplane, as well.
Please reply off list.
Thanks,
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
>SCSI to serial cable :-)
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004730888
So how reliable is the person's comment that it is "well used, but very
reliable". If they have been plugging it into a serial port, it hasn't
been doing a thing... if they have been pluging it into a SCSI port and
THOUGHT it was serial... can they be trusted to know that it is
"reliable".
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>I think this cable is for an external SCSI Iomega Zip drive. The Zip drive
>has a DB25 connector on the back but it is a SCSI interface. The drive is
>at work and I am at home so I may be in error.
No... the zip drive uses a DB25 to DB25 cable.
This cable (DB25->Blue Ribbon 50) is commonly used with Mac SCSI ports...
but also found on many other SCSI 1 connectors.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Frankly, I don't find it funny, but I do find it a good buy. $3 (buy-it-now)
>for a DB25<=>SCSI adapter cable is a pretty good buy if you need one.
Without knowing the quality of the cable... it actually is NOT a very
good buy. Yes, the price for the cable is great, but you also need to
factor in $6 shipping. That makes it $9 total... I can buy cheap ones of
these NEW at my local CompUSA for $12... so $3 more gets you a brand new
one guarenteed to work (or at least can be returned when it doesn't).
Of course, that is for a cheap one... which tend to not be reliable in
their own right. If you are looking for a good quality one, prices start
at $25 and up (and if the ebay'd one is good quality, then it would be a
great price... but there is no clue who makes it, or how beat up it is)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Y'all,
I posted a couple of days ago with questions concerning the value of,
and locating info for, a PDP11/93, for which I'm negotiating . I got
some good responses on-list, and a couple of very helpful suggestions
off-list.
And today, one enterprising soul, a long-standing list subscriber,
found MDR's website from my email address. He both emailed and called
my boss today trying to buy the machine out from under me.
His statement to Mark, that he thought I was trying to cheat my
company of fair value, would have rung a lot less false had he
(A) Done me the courtesy of trying to clarify the situation with me
first,
(B) Not also expressed what Mark called "near-rabid" interest in owning
the machine himself,
and
(C) Not asked Mark specifically to refrain from telling me about it.
Fortunately for me, Mark Rodriguez was my friend long before he became
my boss.
For the record, my employer knows that some of what I pull out of the
pile is for my collection, and some gets sold. He rather expects that I
make a profit. As long as he gets more than the scrappers pay, he feels
that he's ahead.
As far as the idea that I should tell *any* prospective seller what
I might charge for the item I'm buying, *if* I resell it, that's just
ridiculous.
Mark's impression, which I trust, was NOT that this person was trying
to protect MDR from being cheated. Mark believes that it was an
outright attempt to make sure that the caller got first crack at a
PDP11/93.
I think that truly sucks. If this is the way we are, I'll be
unsubscribing damn soon.
And yes, I know who it was.
Doc
Stupid question time.
What's the secret trick to pulling off the front panel of an IBM RS/6000
type 7012 so that the devices in the front drive bays can be removed?
ok
r.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Donzelli [mailto:aw288@osfn.org]
> I would like to see some reasonably strict moderation, so we
> can cut out
> all of the off topic stuff before it (always) gets out of
> hand. Off topic,
> meaning Microsoft/AOL bashing, PeeCees, cars (antique or otherwise),
Not to be picky, but:
AOLs early (still bad) software ran on _on topic machines_
Microsofts early (still bad) software ran on _on topic machines_
PeeCees (I assume in the IBM sense) older than 10 years, are,
according to the FAQ, and no matter how much you or I may dislike
them _on topic machines_
The spark computer in an older car is arguably an _on topic machine_
> politics, complaining about SPAM, Linux, guns, food, and at
> least fifty
Linux runs on _on topic machines_
> other topics that have made the rounds that have nothing to
> do with old
> computing.
Well, anyway, my point is that you can't just unilaterally ban
all of those topics; it would require some very careful reading
on the moderator's part.
It may not be feasible.
Now since discussing list policies is probably off topic, (not to
mention boring) I'll stop.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Ok, now got a little further using TERTIARY_VMB.EXE
.. and to next problem.
>>> B/R5:101/X:D/B:6 ET0
Initializing system.
F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE #
A A . . M M M . . . . . . P TYP
o o . . + + + . . . . . . + STF
. . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD
. . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF
. . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD
. . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI D +
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . + . XBI E +
. . . . B1 A2 A1 . . . . . . . ILV
. . . . 32 32 32 . . . . . . . 96 Mb
ROM = 6.0 EEPROM = 2.0/6.0 SN = GA92000372
Loading system software.
Filename: TERTIARY_VMB.EXE
The filename for NICDrom MOP boot is: TERTIARY_VMB.EXE
* Passing control to transfer address
%VAXcluster, system loaded from node VAXVMS (AA-00-04-00-01-04)
%VAXcluster, PE boot driver timer control value = 00002710
%VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, PE boot driver successfully initialized, disk server VAXVMS
Bootfile:SYSBOOT.EXE
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk%VAXcluster,
checking
for listen timeout
%VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout
%VAXcluster, listen timeout, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, no connection to disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, closing virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, attempting to reconnect to a disk server
%VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, connected to disk server VAXVMS
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SYSDUMP.DMP on System Disk successfully mapped
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SAVEDUMP parameter not set to protect the
PAGEFILE.SYS%VAXcluste
r, checking for listen timeout
%VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout
%VAXcluster, listen timeout, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, no connection to disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, closing virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, attempting to reconnect to a disk server
%VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS
%VAXcluster, connected to disk server VAXVMS
OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V7.2 Major version id = 1 Minor version id =
0
%VAXcluster, PE boot driver timer control value = 00002710
%VAXcluster, PE boot driver initialization failed, maximum retry limit
exceeded
%EXECINIT, error initializing boot device - R0 = 00000054
?06 Halt instruction executed
PC = 85CBC5BF
--
Saku Set?l?
System Planning Manager
Kolumbus Oy http://www.kolumbus.com/
Elisa Communications Group
I need an RM03, preferrably within sane driving distance of Peoria, IL.
Having a KS10 as a paperweight is absolutely no fun. I can trade PDP-11
stuff for one, I have all sorts of 11 kit that I'd be more than willing
to trade for KS10 stuff.
Also, if anyone has the 120V-AC plug that goes in a TM02, I am short one
of those as well - I have the 220 volt version (but the rest of the drive
is all 120 volt parts; Odd!)
Basically, I'm sick of using the KS10 as just emulation validation and I want
to get it running. ^_^
-------
>> To whomever(s) were looking for one of these, I scored out out of a junk
>> bin today. It's an HP C2502-66500, an 8-bit card with an NCR 53C400A on it,
>> a DB25F port, and a "HP ScanJet Scanner" label on the back panel. Condition
>> unknown but physically it's in near-mint shape.
>
>From the number, it is for Scanjet IIP, IIC, etc. - the later true SCSI
>series.
Oops! There were several similar HP cards with other numbers and no
labels in the bin, if somebody can provide me with the numbers of interest
I can go back and see what I can find.
--James B.
4.3.3 can still make diagnostic floppies, right? I need a set of AIX 4
dianostic floppies. I would be eternally grateful to whomever could help
me.
Peace... Sridhar
> From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com>
> Here's an odd one. Hypothetically, if I have a keyboard, with no
> internal sampler (a hypothetical Ensoniq ZR-76, say... for which
> I could probably never hope to find the sampler upgrade board ;),
> and would like to use an Atari ST to do some sampling (and play
> back of samples, too -- triggered by the keyboard), is there a
> way to do it?
You cannot transfer a sample to a non-sampling synth. All you can send it
is MIDI and patch data.
> I'm not familiar with Atari ST software, but I just happen to
> have an ST520 setting around not doing much, and wonder whether
> it could be used for this purpose. ISTR that STs had decent
> MIDI capabilities for the time.
MIDI and sampling are unrelated.
> Otherwise, what sort of MIDI-ish stuff can be done with this
> machine?
>
> It might make a good secondary sequencer, patch editor, etc,
> anyway...
Sure, as long as you can obtain or write a sequencer and patch editor. The
patch editor has to fit both the Atari *and* the target synth.
Glen
0/0
I'm joining this thread a little late (only read the digest version
every few days or so), so pardon me if you already have covered this.
There were no quad turntables per se (except those hawked as such at the
very low end). For CD-4 quad LP's (championed by RCA) you needed a
cartridge with response up to 45,000 - 50,000 Hz, many coming with a
special cut to the actual stylus (Stanton called theirs 'quadrahedrial'
IIRC, and there was also the Shibata stylus). The quad channels were
physically encoded on the record, and you needed the cartridge and a
CD-4 demodulator, either as an add-on unit, or built into a receiver. I
vaguely recall a TT or two with a demodulator built in, but they were
rare. Marantz, Harmon-Kardon, Panasonic, and Pioneer all made
demodulators. The demodulators come up frequently on eBay, and there's
a guy on eBay who still sells new CD-4 cartridges. And TT's are still
available - new ones can run from a few hundred for something decent to
literally $10,000 and up (honest!) with the average high-end TT being
between $800 and $1200. For once, eBay is reasonable and can get you
something decent for between $100 and $200 (if you know your TT's).
The two major matrixed (electrically encoded) systems were CBS-Sony SQ
format and the Sansui QS format. The first decoders did only a little
more than presenting a L-R 'ambiance' signal (the Dynaco Quadaptor did
this without needing two additional amplifier channels), but partial
front-back logic and then full-logic decoders were developed to provide
greater separation. Electro-Voice also had their own matrix, but
switched over to being compatible SQ when they saw which way the wind
was blowing.
The SQ matrix encoding is still the basis of the multi-channel home
theater systems you buy today. A little web-searching will find you
many quad sites.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
(and old quad equipment)
> > Jim and I are now working on getting the back rent paid. Once that's
> > under control, we'll then start figuring out the best option for getting
> > the collection back to his barn in Kansas.
>
> Hmm Red Slippers??? Well it worked from OZ.
> Better get more room out there, because on your way back you could
> make a few stops, wheel and deal and get twice the collection. :)
Hmmm.... If Jim has a barn out in Kansas now, it sounds to me like he needs
to stop by my storage units when he's retrieving his stuff. I've got more
stuff I could dump on him (of course the last time it was his one son taking
most of the stuff).
Zane
To whomever(s) were looking for one of these, I scored out out of a junk
bin today. It's an HP C2502-66500, an 8-bit card with an NCR 53C400A on it,
a DB25F port, and a "HP ScanJet Scanner" label on the back panel. Condition
unknown but physically it's in near-mint shape.
Anybody who wants it can have it for the buck I paid plus postage.
--James B.
> Everybody save whatever old
> manuals you have for *any*thing electronic, eventually someone will
> need them and you can then sell them at an inflated price!
Your charma points will be higher if you scan them and put them someplace
where others can get to them. Who knows, maybe someone will do the
same for you.
> > Everybody save whatever old
> > manuals you have for *any*thing electronic, eventually someone will
> > need them and you can then sell them at an inflated price!
>
> Your charma points will be higher if you scan them and put them someplace
> where others can get to them. Who knows, maybe someone will do the
> same for you.
Some live on the wheel, others get run over by it...
;)