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by pat＠purdueriots.com

I think this one just squeaks by the 10-year rule... Today I visited the high school I used to go to, and walked out with an Amiga 2000 with a Video Toaster. (Yes, I legally walked out with it...) Anyhow, I've got the thing 'seemingly' working, but the manual for the Toaster says that it either needs an RGB monitor connected or a terminator on the RGB port. Does anyone here know of a source of cables for this thing (I'm a tad low on 23pin dsub connectors) or a pair of connectors so I can connect my A1084S up to it? For now I'm using the monochrome NTSC output from the computer, but I would like to have a color display (and a properly functioning Toaster). -- Pat

24 years, 1 month

Altos 580

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I've been looking for info on an Altos 580. It's pretty thin. The little I've found shows the db25 connectors as rs232s, and mentions terminals. Does that mean I can get a console on my trusty MicroTerm? If not, are there any peripherals anywhere? Display, keyboard, an OS maybe? Doc

24 years, 1 month

OT: name that computer

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Oops...that was supposed to be for Sellam directly. -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard [mailto:RCini@congressfinancial.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:33 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: OT: name that computer Sellam: Are you planning for VCFE 2.0? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:49 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT: name that computer On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I'm not that old :-) > > Of course the 50's had there problems too, but they are generally > portrayed as being quite wholesome. I wasn't around, but I suspect they > were. It was probably backlash from WW2. As long as people continue to age, there will always result a large population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things were better in my day". Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years, 1 month

Geometric Array Processor board

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone know much about these? I picked up TWO of these cards today and each one has 144 NCR45CG72 ICs on it. It looks ike EACH IC has 72 microproccesors in it. That makes a total of 20,736 processors!!! Here's a bit that I found while searching the net. IN FACT, these may be the exact cards that this guy is referring to since much of the stuff that I find does orginate at MMC. Joe 9. Geometric Arithmatic Parallel Processor {GAPP}, a real time vision recognition, dynamically partitionable, dynamically fault reconfigurable, array processor (SIMD) for Martin Marietta in Orlando. Each IC contained 72 microprocessors, composed of a single TCU and multiple ALU-register sets. Array grows in X and Y dimensions to match a required image array of pixels matrix, and decimates in time to allow fault reconfiguration and price/performance options. First successful SIMD VLSI. First successful real time image recognition. Responsibility included addition to instruction set {If then, case, etc based on if any, if all, if none}, redesign for performance enhancement, and design of fault reconfiguration switching at internal IC level and external array coordination. Non-classified version is the 45CG72 from NCR.

24 years, 1 month

HP LJ 2 mobo -> Apple LW 2 NT

by mythtech＠mac.com

>So, to fit the HP formatter board into the Apple chassis, you need to >replace the base tray (so as to provide the font slots), the connectors >on the DC controller board (or maybe just swap the entire board :-(), the >control panel (no way will the HP board drive the Apple LED panel), and >thus part of the outer casing as well. It's possible, but why bother. Yeah really... at that point I might as well either yank the good pickup rollers from the Apple, or for $30 just buy another set. >It would be simpler to swap over the rollers (or the complete pickup >shaft assembly). Those parts are _identical_ between the 2 printers. > >Take off the outer casing at the top (lots of screws, then unplug the >cable to the status LEDs or control panel). Yeah, I have done this repair on my Apple LW IINT once before... I will most likey buy another kit for the HP when the fuser on it dies (it has a nasty scar across it, and is starting to peel... it is still printing fine with no adverse marks, but I suspect in a few months of decent use, that will stop being the case) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

HP LJ 2 mobo -> Apple LW 2 NT

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Whoa.... well, think of this as whole as a learning experience... an >expensive one, but a learning experience nonetheless :-) Well.. it really isn't too expensive... the printer only cost me $20 cash, and about an hour of my time... and the bonus is, by the time I left, I found an employee that could really use a PC printer right in their office, so they are getting the HP later this week. So in the end all worked out well. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

ID these TRW ICs

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have a good way to identify ICs made by TRW? I've searched the net and found almost nothing. I'd like to id the LSICs shown in this picture <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/trw/ics.jpg>. The smaller ones are marked TRW 8429/AC 1016J5C8 and the bigger one is marked TRW TD1007J1. The big one is very impressive looking (the pictures don't do it justice). Not only due to it's size but it also has gold leads and a black anodized heatsink with gold lettering epoxied(?) to the top of it and it just looks impressive. These are on a Multibus card that was part of the same system that had the Geometric Array Processors. I think this may have been part of the I/O subsystem that passed data to and from the GAPP. Joe

24 years, 1 month

HP LJ 2 mobo -> Apple LW 2 NT

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Will the HPLJ2 board fit into the slot underneath the LW2NT? >Does it have the same connector? Humm... I didn't get that far as actually pulling the board. Although, this whole printer has been one slap my head experience. I had a printer die that was hooked up to an NT box to act as a network print spooler (well, actually, the printer works fine, but it needs a new drum and developer kit $200 for the pair, and that isn't worth it for this printer). So I bought the HP from the local salvation army store for $20. When I tried to use it, it was failing to pickup the paper... a new pickup kit is $30 (well worth it for the HP LJ2). But since I had the unused working Apple LW IINT, I figured I could just swap the mobo so I can use the parallel interface to reconnect to my NT spooler. Well... head slap #1... I don't need to replace the pickup rollers... I just needed to clean them, and use a little rubber rejuvenator... now it picks up like a charm. So I do the swap, get it all hooked up to my NT spooler, get everything working... and head into the office of the only computer that matters about printing to it... to find head slap #2... I changed the PC to a Mac last week and totally forgot.... that means I could have just used my Apple LW IINT with a quick and dirty LocalTalk connection! I didn't need to go thru all this buying and fixing and testing of the HP after all! (For the handful of PCs that also print to the printer, I can let them use the NT spooler over a serial connection, and just deal with the painfully slow print speed... the others only print 5 or 6 times a year anyway). So now, later this week... I will change the printer AGAIN, and go to the Apple LW IINT over Localtalk (probably dedicate an old Mac with ethernet to act as a Ethernet to Localtalk bridge). But at least I have a working HP LJ 2 to use elsewhere.... now to find a legal cassette tray for it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

Free stuff in OC, CA - Franklin Ace 1000

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Free stuff that isn't worth much! Operational Franklin Ace 1000 computer - no drives. Pick-up, or pay for delivery from Irvine, CA. Steve. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

24 years, 1 month

HP series 80

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

This weekend I picked up a HP 9915A computer (rackmount HP-85) with 2 HP-IB, serial and BCD card. I've also got the manuals for the expansion cards and a manual for a HP-85. I haven't got the tapes and the keyboard. Does anyone have the pin-out for the connectors on the back? There is a keyboard and a control (=com?) port on the back, but I don't know what I should connect to those. I tried connecting a terminal to the serial card, but there wasn't any output. It gives an error message on the composite video output, so I guess the unit is working OK. And the last question, what are those unlabelled keys on the front of the unit? Are these softkeys like on other Hp equipment? thanks, Michiel

24 years, 1 month

Punch Card Humor

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I ended up with one awhile back, but it's missing the drive belts for the > rollers. I'd be happy to try that trick out if someone knows where I can > buy the belts for it. A good place to start would be http://www.ncspearson.com -dq

24 years, 1 month

WTB TU58-FX

by jhfine＠idirect.com

I have been looking for a table top TU-58 with two drives without success. Might anyone have the box for a TU58-FX which does not work, but I may then be able to find the drives separately?

24 years, 1 month

Power Series

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Christopher Smith wrote: > > Well, on one hand, yes, but on the other hand, I like my > Indigo 2 Elan with > > no texture memory just fine. I'm also considering trying > I didn't know you had another SGI box ;) Yep. > A couple people I've known who ended up with old SGI gear thought they > were going to create some kind of fancy animations with this kind of > hardware, so I never know what to think now. Depends on what you mean by "fancy animations." It will probably do better out of the box than most new peesees depending on what you'd like to animate. (and whether it requires texture memory, of course) Both of my SGIs, for instance, have analog video in/out, which is a start. On the other hand, you can't really do a good animation with anything "out of the box." It usually takes a lot of strange stuff. The graphical prowess of the machines is still something, though. For instance, the ability of the machine to provide individual color-maps for different windows on the screen, without the nasty palette-flashing that's seen in xfree86 on an intel box (for example) when you try the same... > Sounds like you at least have an original VGX chassis then. > It is possible > someone upgraded some of the boards, but the only way you'll > be able to > tell is to pull them and cross reference the part numbers. I'm thinking about doing that. The label on top of the chassis actually says "4D/440 VGX" or something to that effect. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 1 month

Toshiba 3100SX laptop

by mythtech＠mac.com

>-> It is the laptop, and a toshiba carry bag for it. There was no power >-> supply that I saw, or manuals. > >Doesn't need one. Uses standard 120vac power cord. Humm... maybe I didn't pay enough attention (I wasn't really that interested in it myself), but I could have sworn their was a port marked DC and it was a small 3 pin jack that looked alot like the old Hayes modem power jacks (squarish with the edges cut off). But maybe in my quick glance I either looked at the wrong port, or just had a brain fart at what I was looking at. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

Top collectable machines

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>Out of curiosity, how many here care whether or not the machines they >collect are considered "collectable" or "top collectable?" Isn't the >point of collecting these machines to have fun toys to play with? >Collecting was more fun, and the machines were easier to find, when >nearly everyone considered them worthless a decade or so ago. As many other have said here, I try to hang on to only those machines that I can put to use. One exception would be the various SBCs I own, but you could argue that they are useful for learning about the procerssor they host. Also, like others, nobody is really impressed by my collection. I don't do it for them, I do it for me.... My "lab" is in the finished basement of our new-to-us house (and leaking into the garage). The previous owners left brown shag rug and paneling, so it has that nice '70's look, to match the computers! :-) One friend of my wife, whose husband works for the government, remarked upon coming down the stairs and seeing my stuff scattered about: "This looks like one of those places my husband goes into where the bust the guy for having all his kiddie porn stashed on his computers". She laughed, I didn't... :-( Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

24 years, 1 month

Slightly OT: 8T01 Nixie Decoder/Driver Information Needed

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

Does anyone have any information (ideally, data sheets) on the 8T01 16-pin DIP Nixie Decoder/Driver IC? I had no luck with the IC Master online or a Google search... -Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com) Web Page: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.

24 years, 1 month

Toshiba 3100SX laptop

by mythtech＠mac.com

My local Salvation Army store has a Toshiba 3100SX laptop for $8.00 if anyone wants it. It is the laptop, and a toshiba carry bag for it. There was no power supply that I saw, or manuals. Also, on the back there is a spot for what looks like a modem (don't remember exactly what it said, something about phone interface though)... but other than the cover plate, whatever is supposed to be installed in that spot is missing (there is a whole in the plate, and you can see inside to where something should be). It was there as of Saturday, and they are closed on Sunday's, so it is probably still there. If someone wants it, just let me know, I'll grab it for them and ship it out. Obviously if you want it, you cover actual purchase cost ($7.99 + 6% sales tax) and shipping... I'm not interested in making money off it (but if you want to slip me a buck for picking it up, that's always nice). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

VMS: problems with INITIALIZE MUC6: (TK50)

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, this is a followup to the problem I'm having formatting a TK50 drive with a VMS filesystem, needed to create a diagnostic tape. I am on a VAX 6400 with VMS 5.4 or 7.2 (dual boot so to speak :-), nether works. I do $ INITIALIZE MUC6: ELAN When that runs the tape scrunches and spins happily until suddenly: %PBC0, Port is Reinitializing ( 45 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. %INIT-F-VOLINV, volume is not software enabled then in the error log I find what's attached below. This time, I believe the critical entry is there. Could someone help me interpreting this? I suppose it might just have a data error, but this should really not make the whole thing stop. I had several warnings when I wrote a tape with this drive on a uVAX-II with NetBSD, and it still went on writing it all. So is there an easy fix? Could it be that the TK50 tape doesn't play well with the TQK70 controller? Would it be better if I hooked the TK50 to the DEBNT, but where on the backplane rear do I connect this sort of thing and how is the IDC connector wired on the VAXBI side? thanks for helping out, -Gunther ******************************* ENTRY 3695. ******************************* ERROR SEQUENCE 157. LOGGED ON: SID 0B000006 DATE/TIME 2-MAR-2002 14:18:55.32 SYS_TYPE 02400101 SYSTEM UPTIME: 0 DAYS 00:08:56 SCS NODE: VAX/VMS V5.4 ERL$LOGMESSAGE ENTRY KA64A CPU FW REV# 6. CONSOLE FW REV# 4.0 XMI NODE # 1. I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _MUC6: MESSAGE TYPE 0002 TAPE MSCP MESSAGE MSLG$L_CMD_REF 6ADA0004 MSLG$W_UNIT 0006 UNIT #6. MSLG$W_SEQ_NUM 0000 SEQUENCE #0. MSLG$B_FORMAT 05 TAPE ERROR MSLG$B_FLAGS 41 SEQUENCE NUMBER RESET OPERATION CONTINUING MSLG$W_EVENT 0068 DATA ERROR READ DATA CHECK MSLG$Q_CNT_ID 132B0008 0342F6A1 UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, F6A1132B0008(X) TAPE CLASS DEVICE TBK70 MSLG$B_CNT_SVR 00 CONTROLLER SOFTWARE VERSION #0. 0C UNIT HARDWARE REVISION #12. MSLG$B_LEVEL 01 MSLG$B_RETRY 2C MSLG$L_GAP_CNT 00000000 GAP COUNT = 0. MSLG$B_FMTR_SVR 00 FORMATTER SOFTWARE VERSION #0. MSLG$B_FMTR_HVR 00 FORMATTER HARDWARE REVISION #0. TK70 DEVICE/CONTROLLER DEPENDENT INFORMATION DRIVE FLAGS 13 CARTRIDGE PRESENT HEAD AT TRACK ZERO POSITIONED AT BOT TRK NUMBER 00 LOGICAL TRACK NUMBER = 0. PHYSICAL BLK# 0004 PHYSICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 4. LOGICAL BLK# 00 LOGICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0. TAPE POSITION 0100B4 TAPE POSITION = 65716. DRIVE STATE 0A0C RD/WRT STATE 2B3C OPERATION FLGS 01A2 CNTRLR STATUS 02 RECOVERED BY RETRY DRIVE ERR CODE 13 COMMUNICATIONS ERROR ****** ENTRY 3694., ERROR SEQUENCE 156. LOGGED ON SID 0B000006 ERL$LOGSTATUS ENTRY KA64A CPU FW REV# 6. CONSOLE FW REV# 4.0 XMI NODE # 1. I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _MUC6: MSLG$L_CMD_REF 6ADA0004 ORB$L_OWNER 00000000 OWNER UIC [000,000] UCB$L_CHAR 0CC44038 DIRECTORY STRUCTURED SINGLE DIRECTORY "SEQUENTIAL BLOCK" ORIENTED FILE ORIENTED AVAILABLE ERROR LOGGING ALLOCATED CAPABLE OF INPUT CAPABLE OF OUTPUT UCB$L_OPCNT 00000003 3. QIO'S THIS UNIT UCB$W_ERRCNT 0001 1. ERRORS THIS UNIT UCB$W_STS 0810 ONLINE SOFTWARE VALID CDRP$L_MEDIA 00000000 CDRP$W_FUNC 000C READ PHYSICAL BLOCK CDRP$L_BCNT 00000050 TRANSFER SIZE 80. BYTE(S) CDRP$W_BOFF 0170 368. BYTE PAGE OFFSET CDRP$L_PID 0001000D REQUESTOR "PID" CDRP$Q_IOSB 000001F4 00000000 IOSB, 0. BYTE(S) TRANSFERRED -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 1 month

990

by mhstein＠canada.com

Either of you guys want a copy of the 990 Computer Family Systems Handbook? mike -------Original Message---------- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:28:17 -0500 From: "James B. DiGriz" <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> Subject: Re: 990 Merle K. Peirce wrote: > I think they are both variations of the 990/12. One may be a model 8. I > think one is a 13 slot chassis, the other a 17. > I have a /10 in a 13 slot chassis. ~512K installed, several more 192 and <snippage> __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com

24 years, 1 month

[lcolautti@libero.it: Two PDP-11 in Italy]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Contact him directly if interested. ----- Forwarded message from Lorenzo Colautti <lcolautti(a)libero.it> ----- From: "Lorenzo Colautti" <lcolautti(a)libero.it> To: <mrbill(a)pdp11.org> Subject: Two PDP-11 in Italy Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:38:13 +0100 Hello! I have two fully-functional PDP11-45 systems, with some spare parts, documentation, tests, ecc. But in Italy I was unable to find any person or organisation interested in this. Can you help me? I don't wont throw them! Lorenzo Colautti colautti.lorenzo(a)enel.it Endesa Italia s.r.l. Monfalcone (GO) ITALY ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

24 years, 1 month

OpenSTEP for VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > a copy of 3.1. I just haven't found the hardware combo to run it. > I still don't know where I got this, but I found tarball & README. > It's AfterStep, with a title & readme touting it as "OpenSTEP for > Linux". Somebody's idea of a joke? No, somebody just probably forgot to check their facts. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 1 month

Yahoo Free Listing Day on Tuesday

by marvin＠rain.org

Just a quick note to let everyone know that Yahoo is having a free listing day on Tuesday. I plan on putting a number of items there up for auction that might be of interest to listmembers, and will post the URL tomorrow.

24 years, 1 month

HP 9000 Series 200 documentation lot, almost free...

by whdawson＠localisps.net

1. 3-ring notebook containing: BASIC Programming Techniques with Extensions 2.0 for the HP series 200 Computers Manual Part No. 09826-90011 Copyright 1982 Darn close to mint condition 2. Plastic spiral bound photocopy of: Basic 3.0 Utilities Library for the HP series 200 Computers Manual Part No. 098613-10020 Copyright 1984 As good as the day it was copied. 3. Wire spiral bound pocket reference: Basic 2.0 Condensed Reference with Extensions 2.1 Manual Part No. 09826-90051 First Edition July, 1983 Cover torn 1.25" along spiral at bottom, a name lightly written across the top of the cover and at the top of the title page. Otherwise VGC. Cost: Free + Actual shipping, although donations are appreciated. Bill http://www.swtpc.com

24 years, 1 month

Users manual, IEM 1mb mem board for HP 9000 series 200/300, Free+

by whdawson＠localisps.net

1 MBYTE MEMORY BOARD For HP 9000 Series 200/300 computers User's Manual September 1986 Publication #: 040986 Manual Part# 9837257 IEM, Inc. Fort Collins, CO Plastic Spiral bound, 22 pages incl. covers; configuration, dip switch settings, etc. VGC Cost: Free + Actual shipping, although donations are appreciated. Bill

24 years, 1 month

OT: name that computer

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Sellam: Are you planning for VCFE 2.0? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:49 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT: name that computer On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I'm not that old :-) > > Of course the 50's had there problems too, but they are generally > portrayed as being quite wholesome. I wasn't around, but I suspect they > were. It was probably backlash from WW2. As long as people continue to age, there will always result a large population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things were better in my day". Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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