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by vsnyder＠math.jpl.nasa.gov

I'm involved with a historical preservation project (that has nothing to do with my employer). I'm hoping to find Autocoder, Cobol, Fortran, RPG, Sort 6/7, IOCS, ..., manuals, user-developed applications, the engineering drawings that CE's used for field maintenance, or any other IBM 1401 memorabilia (including equipment!). Do you have any of this stuff, or know anybody who might? Thanks in advance, Van Snyder

24 years, 1 month

List Management - RESPONSE

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/16/02 10:03:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, marvin(a)rain.org writes: > Jay West wrote: > > > > Please read the entire message below from the list admin (who is trying > very > > hard not to come out of his skin and choke someone)... Jay, you're doing a fine job and we all owe you some gratitude for keeping the list running as smoothly as it has been. -Linc Fessenden

24 years, 1 month

Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if anyone has one they want to find a new home for... --tom At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote: >> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: >> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check >> >out the picture at: >> > >> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg >> > >> >and see if you recognize it? >> >> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board. >> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy >> drive) and was usually a kit. > >If California Digital is still in business, I believe the >boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... > >If gone now, I have a copy... > >-dq > >

24 years, 1 month

Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if > anyone has one they want to find a new home for... Ditto that, and a Little Boards, too (ISTR Allison's got one or more of the Little Boards)... -dq

24 years, 1 month

Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote: >> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: >> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check >> >out the picture at: >> > >> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg >> > >> >and see if you recognize it? >> >> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board. >> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy >> drive) and was usually a kit. > >If California Digital is still in business, I believe the >boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... It would appear that it is still available and reasonably priced! http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm --tom >If gone now, I have a copy... > >-dq > >

24 years, 1 month

List Management - RESPONSE

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Here's a great test. If the thought of using the list to respond to an > off-topic posting is appealing but responding to just the individual > originator of the message isn't, then I'd suggest that maybe you have an > ego problem that is being fed by having a semi-captive audience. I'm in total agreement with this. Believe it or not, each and every time I make first response to such a thread, I do so with the intention of sending it only to the poster... then just after I click send, I once again realize that REPLY goes to the list instead of the SENDER and REPLY TO ALL doesn't work at all... [0] Once I've done that I regret it, but admittedly not enough to stop my subsequent OT posts in that thread. Recently, I've had just enough presence of mind to remember to re-address the message. Outlook is programmable, so it can be made to operate the way I want it to regardless of how brain-dead the listserver software might be (I haven't been happy with any listservers other than the IBM BITNET-hosted ones; this seems to be a function no one else can do right). I guess I need to get started, as soon as the Cyber simulator is finished... [0] If you can't believe that anyone can be this absent-minded, then you haven't interacted with a very wide range of people -dq

24 years, 1 month

9915a

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

> Where are you located? I'm just outside of Orlando Florida. I'm in the Netherlands, so that's not exactly next door. But I don't think I'm going to have much trouble finding a HP-85, at least I hope not. > > About two months ago I noticed a complete HP-85 (tapes, manuals and a 19" > > rack with HP-IB equipment) > > Was it on a pull out drawer and in a cabinet that was about 18" tall? > If so I've seen those before, they're a data acquision system and it > usually has a HP 3497 Data Acquision unit in the bottom. There's a number > for the complete unit but I can't remeber exactly what it is. Somewhere I > have a couple of manuals and tapes for that system. Yes, that sounds exactly like it. Usually they have stuff standing there for a few months, but this one was gone pretty quick. They normally have lots of weird computer systems (not at the moment; I checked last Friday and it was almost empty), but I tend to stick to the smaller systems; mostly what you see are industrial controllers in 2m tall 19" racks.... Michiel

24 years, 1 month

urgent business/investment deal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Sure, but SPAM is at least partly pervasive due to the low cost > > of harvesting addresses. This might bump it into the unprofitable > > zone... > > I have asked for comments on the following - does anyone care? I think your solution is somewhat Byzantine. Why not just edit your headers to something that can't be replied to by output from a harvester? Regards, -dq

24 years, 1 month

WTB: HP-IB CD-Rom

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> Yes, I have one. But I'm not sure if it works and I haven't had the time >to test it or needed it bad enough to drive me to find a way to test it. That's probably the one I gave you. It was working just fine last year. The caddys can also be hard to find. I look for them at every ham fest / swap meet. SteveRob >At 01:00 AM 3/16/02 +0000, you wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm looking for a HP-IB CD-Rom drive. > > > >Did one ever exist? I've never heard of such an animal... > > > >-tony > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

24 years, 1 month

[GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF (fwd)

by jpl15＠panix.com

Of possible interest - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:28:44 -0600 From: Paul Kasley <kasley(a)fnal.gov> Reply-To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net Subject: [GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF John F. Auwaerter,76, Pioneer who helped create computer language by Krystyna Slivinski Special to the Tribune John F. Auwaerter, 76, of Park Ridge, was a pioneer in the telecommunications industry who was instrumental in the development of the American Standard Code for Information Interchange, or the ASCII computer language. The code was the first 8-bit standard code that allowed characters, such as those found on a keyboard, to be represented by the same codes on many different kinds of computers. "That was a major change in standardization for the telecommunications industry," said Sylvan Silberg, a fellow former research engineer at Teletype Corp. The code was developed in the 1960s through Mr. Auwaerter's involvement an Institute of Electrical Engineers committee, Silberg said. "He traveled all over the world defining what this code would represent. This is the code that is still used in PCs today," Silberg said. Mr. Auwaerter died of cancer Saturday, Feb. 23, in Fountain Hill, Ariz. Born in Chicago, Mr. Auwaerter served two years in the Navy as an ensign stationed in the Pacific in World War II. He was a graduate of Northwestern University in Evanston, where he received a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering in the late 1950s. After working as an engineer at General Electric in Baltimore, Mr. Auwaerter joined Teletype Corp. in Chicago. At the same time, he attended DePaul University and got a law degree in the late 1950s. Despite the law degree, Mr. Auwaerter's career remained focused on telecommunications. During the late 1950s, he was responsible for developing a nationwide network that provided up-to-date weather reports every 15 minutes, which teletypes supplied to the Federal Aviation Administration. "He knew how to get the most out of people and make them love it," Silberg said. His other achievements included the creation of a secure high-speed communication network for the federal government in the 1960s. He retired from Teletype in the early 1980s as vice president of sales. "He was quite dynamic and brilliant," said his daughter, Mary Loftus. "He was in charge in whatever he got involved in." Other survivors include two grandchildren. A memorial service will begin at 11a.m. Friday in St. Paul if the Cross Catholic Church, 320 S. Washington Ave., Park Ridge. --Chicago Tribune, March 14, 2002, Thursday (verbatim from Trib) ----------------------------------------------------- Paul Kasley W9TS Fermi National Accelerator Lab, Batavia, IL ----------------------------------------------------- If you push hard enough, it will fall over. _______________________________________________ GreenKeys mailing list GreenKeys(a)mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys

24 years, 1 month

Response to Re: List Management - RESPONSE

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

I Second that! Firstly, regardless of your position on this matter, we must all realize that we are enjoying the *privledge* of using this *public* forum for discourse. This privledge is granted purely by Jay's unselfish contribution of time, effort, and bandwith. We owe Jay alot-- hassling him for something that is part and parcel with a public forum such as ours is unjustified and unfair. The burden of keeping our forum relevent does not lie with one person-- it lies with us all. Help preserve our relevence by keeping your posts on-topic (yeah I know, I'm a guilty party too). Yes, a few bums use our forum as a sleeping place, stinking it up as they tend to do. But we have the power to evict them with the <DEL> key. A small effort by many, is more powerful than a great effort by a few (or the one). It's cold, here in Kansas. I think I'll break up this soapbox, and make a nice warm fire. Maybe I'll even roast a few hotdogs. Jeff On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:53:00 -0800 "William R. Buckley" <hhacker(a)ev1.net> writes: > Moral: Jay, given that you were granted control, and given that > others were fully satisfied with your having such control (and the > attendent responsibilities), it is clear that you should not give up such > control (lest the list go the way of the ICWS) and you should stick to your > guns. > > My vote is for Jay! > > William R. Buckley > > Sellam Wrote.... > > Ok, this is where I object. It is NOT your list. This list > > That's funny you should say that now Sellam, because you were the > first one > to post to me privately during the great "reply-to" debate that "it > is your > list, take care of it well....", and "you make the rules... do what > you > wish". I will go dig up your past private email to me that said just > that if > you would like. You have also posted words similar to that on the > list in > the past, I noted them well. I find it interesting that you are > suddenly > changing your tune. Does your past stance on this issue no longer > mesh with > your adgenda perhaps? > > > I don't want you to be the one to decide solely > > how it is run. I, for one, would like some input on issues. > > You do get some input. I listen. However I also make the final > determination. If you don't like it, or feel that I don't get > reasonable > input from the list members, please feel free to start an alternate > list - > that appears to be your motivation in any case. > > > That was true before. Unfortunately, the list has now been > infiltrated > > with spammers, which is quite unfortunate. > > Infiltrated with Spammers? See Jerome's recent post on this topic > for a > reality check Sellam. > > > Kill all off-topic messages (start with this one) as well as > > spam. > > That statement is what a flamer would call a "target rich > environment". I > think I'll leave the gauntlet on the ground. > > > Jay, don't take this too personally, but that answer SUCKS! When > will you > > be "damn well ready"? The list asked for a solution several weeks > ago. I > > think it's time to finally do something. > > Sellam, you're trying to bait me. I'm not falling for it. Live with > it. > > Jay West > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

24 years, 1 month

Does anyone have HP-UX install media for 9000/7xx?

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

If you do, please contact me. I would like to ask you a few questions . . . Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

24 years, 1 month

I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console, what should I do with it?

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > Subject: Re: I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console, what should I do with it? > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 01:08:38 +0000 (GMT) > In-Reply-To: <01aa01c1cc34$96981700$8a0101ac@ibm23xhr06> from "John Allain" at Mar 15, 2 10:17:56 am > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > > > tony said: > > > If you then solder the mating part of the connector to stripboard > > > with a track cut between the 2 rows of pins then each pin will be > > > on it's own strip. > > > > This isn't bad, except for that the signals are now one set of > > 1,3,5,7... and one set of 2,4,6,8... If I want to keep the > > contiguous signals together then I have to jumper just about > > I may be missing something here, but is there any reason why you have to > keep the signals in numerical order? OK, you have a PDP11/34 console with > the 20 way (or so) ribbon coming off it. What are you trying to link it > to? If you're building your own interface circuit you're going to have to > route the signals around to different chips, surely. Seems to me that nearly all ribbon cables use even-numbered pins for signal and odd-numbered pins for ground. So signal and ground lines alternate in the cable. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

24 years, 1 month

More free stuff (you pay shipping)

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

Intel Aboveboard MCA Microchannel memory expansion for MCA 286 (possibly 386) PS/2's with 2MB of 256K simms on it standard parity 30 pin simms, I believe this may be capable of taking 1M simms, and possibly 4M simms, I don't remember. was working when system was scrapped ~ 5 years ago a 384K Ram card for PC's to take you 256k PC up to 640K, fully loaded with 64K drams. worked when it was pulled ~ 4 years ago Microsoft PC Ramcard similar to above, but originally sold by Microsoft.

24 years, 1 month

Email handlers (was Re: Netscape Mail, was Re: HTML in EMAIL)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Allison wrote: > > > Then there are the longer list of freeware mailers. Theres no excuse for > > living with crud. There is also no excuse for not knowing how to "drive" > > what you have. Doc replied: > Pine. It Isn't Just For Unix Anymore! > There are Win32 ports now. I think there's a fairly stable MacOS <10 > port. > Mutt has more features, and allows more granular tuning, but Pine is > way easy to drive. Okay. I'm probably the last person still using Microsoft Mail. It works okay, but I can't find any information about security holes (or lack of them) in this program, and it does not include the headers in messages which I forward, so it's no good for reporting spam. Sellam, I tried Pegasus v4 and the windows kept popping up in really odd locations and sizes. It also has *way* more bells and whistles than I need. Doc, I tried Pine, but the Win9x version requires that I be on-line to read email. I want to send/receive, logoff, and then read and compose new mail. Other than that, it looks okay. Can some one suggest a simple offline email handler that isn't giving that "come hither" look to every Trojan on earth? And that's free? Glen 0/0

24 years, 1 month

Schematics or repar informations for a HP9845B

by asholz＠topinform.com

Hi all, I'm interested in any information/documentation regarding the hardware of a HP9845, e.g. schematics, support and repair informations. Kind regards Andreas

24 years, 1 month

WTB: HP-IB CD-Rom

by asholz＠topinform.com

Hi all, I'm looking for a HP-IB CD-Rom drive. Kind regards from Germany Andreas

24 years, 1 month

urgent business/investment deal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I'm just telling you like it is. It's called outreach. There is gear in > the hands of people who, say, come across the archives from links, who > will have no interest whatsoever in subscribing, and we need to keep it > as easy as possible for them to post, or stuff will get junked that > shouldn't. Ancestry.com does this very effectively. They have a message archive, but then you nring up a message, you don't see the RFC822 e-mail address, just the name of the poster. Like with E-Bay, if you want the actual address, you click a link that takes you to a different page. Here is where the difference begins, and why Ancesrty's way is much cooler than E-Bay's (but then _cooler than E-Bay_ isn't hard to do). Anyway, you get a page where the host system looks up the actual e-mail address, then constructs a graphic image ON THE FLY that is a "picture" of the poster's e-mail address. Gonna take a hell of a bot to break through that... Regards, -doug q

24 years, 1 month

ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Stan Barr <stanb(a)dial.pipex.com> > Just curious, but what do you guys *do* with ZX81s? I've got one rebuilt in > a large box with loads of i/o ports and a2d converter running multi-tasking > Forth, but I've not plugged it in for a while... Okay, check out: http://home.freiepresse.de/befis/zx96_e.htm Then tell me what you *can't* do with a ZX81 ;>) We can: scan documents control overhead projectors control CNC tools and other robotics run BBSs play audio CDs load programs from CDs burn EPROMs In addition to the above, we also use: AT- and PS/2-style keyboards 5.25" fdds 3.5" fdds IDE hdds LCD screens I've heard that a TCP/IP protocol handler will be unveiled at this year's meeting. Sure, some of these operations are slow, but the point is that we're doing a *lot* with "obsolete" hardware. If we can get this kind of functionality out of a Z80-based system, what could *really* be done with a 486-100, P233, or P4-2.2 GHz system, given the time and brainpower? Sellam once said that the ZX-TEAMers were "fanatical hackers." How else is science advanced, other than fanatical hacking (and dumb luck)? My personal project is WIN-ZX, which will perform many of the tasks Windows 3.1 handled for the PC. Presently it requires a 64KB system with a MEFISDOS-based IDE hard drive, but I hope to trim it down to 16KB and cassette tape. Hope you join us for the chat -- Glen 0/0

24 years, 1 month

urgent business/investment deal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Anyway, you get a page where the host system looks up the > > actual e-mail address, then constructs a graphic image > > ON THE FLY that is a "picture" of the poster's e-mail > > address. > > > > Gonna take a hell of a bot to break through that... > > Not really. OCR algorithms are easily available I'm sure. Sure, but SPAM is at least partly pervasive due to the low cost of harvesting addresses. This might bump it into the unprofitable zone... > Decent system though. Yeah, and if a bunch of genealogists can come up with it, I'd be ashamed to be an IT professional if *we* couldn't do at least as well... -dq

24 years, 1 month

Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

>> One is the HDI-45 to RGB adaptor, that came with all the "AV" powermacs >> that had the AV video port. >This is the one I've been looking for... I have had this 6100 for over >a year and haven't run across the HDI-45 adapter for less than $15-$20 >shipped. There are literally DOZENS of these on eBay... as long as you don't mind 3rd party ones (if you want a true apple one, you might actually have to look a few times over the course of 2 weeks before one shows up... even those aren't exactly rare). But, you are right, almost all of them end up in the $20 range after shipping (and many before shipping). Again, it isn't because of demand, but rather because 90% of them are 3rd party, all sold by the same person, and all with starting bids of $9.99 + $10 shipping and handling. Almost all go unbid, but because of that, the few that get listed by someone else for lower prices, get driven up by people trying to get a better deal (or from the one guy slamming the bids to make his the cheapest for all I know). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

iSBX-251 Bubble Memory

by ken＠seefried.com

My latest score is an iSBX-251 bubble memory card. Tres kewl. The bonus is that it showed up with a manual complete with schematics. I've got to get a scanner working so I can get it on line, but if anyone has a question, drop me a line. Ken

24 years, 1 month

List Management; Was Big African Grifters

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Today is March 15, 2002. The latest post available from the online > archives is dated November 30, 2001. That's a hell of a lag. I can't really quite imagine what all must be involved in being part owner of a company, then having to pull out, and either hustle to find a job, or start another company... I'd think you'd want a little safety cushion... At any rate, I'd have thought that by now, he'd have been somewhat settled in... but with the downturn, he might well be having trouble. Bear in mind he's providing the hosting as well as being list owner. Anyone wanting a change of status quo needs to consider we could easliy lay this one someone else who might drop it a month later... -dq

24 years, 1 month

Any information on Genrad 2620?

by dan＠ekoan.com

Is anyone familiar with a Genrad 2620? There's one at a local surplus warehouse but I can't seem to find anything informative via Google. It's a "Field Service Processor" or something like that, with a fold-down keyboard and a built-in CRT. I can get pictures if it helps, but I'm hoping that someone familiar with the unit would let me know if it's worth picking up. Cheers, Dan

24 years, 1 month

urgent business/investment deal

by jpl15＠panix.com

What's kinda amusing about this is that various gullible/clueless folks have actually sent substantial money to these clowns like these - of course this is a fairly old and well-known scam that comes from several African (and other) sources in the region. Financial Darwinism in action! Cheers John Death to SPAM, but don't restrict the List. My $.02

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