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by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> > I kind of thought the ZX81 was a VW Bug :) Some would say more like a Morris Minor. And BTW the Bug makes a lousy doorstop ;>) Glen 0/0

24 years, 1 month

DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > Buy? Who said anything about buying??? I can get all the drives that I > want for next to nothing. If I do pay for a PC, it's only about $1 each. Joe, if you ever run out of sources (fat chance) I've got mountains of 5.25" drives you can have for five cents a pound. Hell, I've got over 20 of 'em here at home! >Most of the times that I use a 1.2M > drive to read/write other formats, it fails. Even when it doesn't fail the > copies don't hold up well. I could NEVER read my SB 180 disks (QD) in a 1.2 > Mb drive. In fact, I finally pulled the 1.2 Mb drive out of my main PC and > put a 360k drive back into it since the 5 1/4" drive was used almost > entirely for reading/writing old disks. Yup, I did the same thing on my main box, and getting rid of that 1.2MB drive has really simplified my life. Glen 0/0

24 years, 1 month

HP LJ 2 mobo -> Apple LW 2 NT

by mythtech＠mac.com

>crap this should have gone direct to Chris. Crap... and my reply should have gone straight to you. (I didn't even look that it was actually addressed to the group) Sorry again! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

Fwd: FS: oscope [Tektronics]

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

From: "Kaboozel" <kaboozel(a)localhost.com> Subject: FS: oscope Newsgroups: austin.forsale Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:54:16 GMT Tektronics 453. 50MHz with 1 good 10x probe. It's not pretty but it works perfectly. $100 obo. send email to ctilbury (at) austin (dot) rr (dot) com

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >I know that some people (very few) have technological impediments that >force them into HTML (Outlook, etc., I think). This is bunk! Outlook can and does post without html, it's easy to turn off. Please, NO HTML and No IMAGES. The latter was part of a few spams we got! Allison

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Dave McGuire > > On March 20, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > In theory, I support this, but if it's possible to filter them down > > to their textual content on the way through, that might be good, also. > > I know that some people (very few) have technological impediments that > > force them into HTML (Outlook, etc., I think). > > Nope. Even LookOut Express can be told not to HTMLize messages. Some > people use webmail services which spew huge amounts of HTML...but > quite frankly, there are plenty of such services that don't...and > anyone who chooses one that does should probably be suspended by their > toenails and pummeled into unconsciousness with an organically-grown > cucumber. > > In short...there is *no* excuse for sending HTML email other than > inexperience or stupidity. > > -Dave > > -- > Dave - what/where are the web mail services that don't send html mail? Or even a service I can telnet/ssh into for e-mail... I'm going to be switching to a new ISP for home (Comcast cable), so this is a good time to really start some SPAM prevention measures... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 1 month

Ultrix' /etc/crontab as a time-bomb [short joke].

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hihi, our little training in risk-assessment tonight is the following sippet of a crontab entry, scheduled to run dayly around midnight: (cd /usr/preserve ; find . -mtime +7 -a -exec rm -f {} \;) why is this a bad idea and what happened to me last night as I was playing with my VAX6460? Answer: the /usr/preserve was a symlink to /usr/var/preserve which didn't exist. What happened next? All files that were not accessed for more than 7 days were being deleted (and I basically installed this system 3 days ago but had fast forwarded my system time from 1976 to 2002 the day before. :-) -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 1 month

Vintage hardware trivia quiz [funny]

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Found this at http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/22794.html History Are you an old bastard? 7. >Clunka Clunka Clunka< is the sound you would most associate with: A. The Clothes Dryer B. A washing machine with an imbalanced load C. A flat tyre on your car D. A tape safe door shutting repeatedly on an annoying user's foot E. An imbalanced DEC RM05 Disk assembly moving around the computer room by itself during a head crash 8. You drop a screwdriver down a ventilation hole in the powersupply at the back of a VAX 11/780. You expect: A. A very careful removal process B. A powersupply failure C. A nasty >crack< noise D. Power outage to the computer room? E. Looting of the shops in the two adjacent streets after the local transformer trips out 9. The nine-track tape you're using is having problems reading some very important survey data for some critical research - only getting half-way through the tape before failing. You would: A. Clean the read heads, which probably are dirty B. Have the tape sent to a commercial data recovery centre C. A, then reduce the temperature of the computer room, and try to complete the read D. Report the failure to the user E. Just cut and repeatedly paste data from the beginning of the data file until the file's up to size 10. The greatest danger to the RA60 removable hard disk media was: A. Not being locked into the drive spindle tightly B. Not being able to be removed from the drive spindle after use C. Disk damage if the cover lock unlatched itself during use D. Dirty read heads E. A preventative maintenance by the Engineer 11. The correct combination of carefully timed disk seeks on the drives in an RA80 disk drive rack could cause: A. A 'Tune' to play B. A Small vibration C. A Large vibration D. A very large vibration E. The disk rack to run in 'horizontal' mode 12. A user has been looking through the sad remnants of their life and found a large box of several thousand punchcards of their undergraduate work, which they would like you to do something with. A good Administrator would: A. Call a Computer Museum and get them read B. Write a quick program to interface to a scanner and read them C. Give the user the Punch card hole code info so they could type them in D. Throw them in the bin and tell the user that they've been demagnetised E. Throw them at the user from a fourth-floor window Sorry, no answers, it says: -Key There is no key. There is never a key! You don't need one. Not if you're the real McCoy! Not if you can clockchip your car computer to get an extra two miles an hour out of the old Rustang before it drops it's driveshaft after the excess vibration. Not if you remember the heady days of a card punch machine that was so loud it had the pensioners down the road digging trenches and sorting out their meat rations. But we can take votes. -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 1 month

Cut me some slack (was Re: Spectrum makes a comeback)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

I find it outrageous that Amstrad is trying to cash in on the Spectrum name, after they dumped the product line years ago. Did anyone check the fine print where it says that each game "expires" after a period of time, and in order to keep playing you must pay again? Piss on that! Here's a cheaper solution (and a better selection): go to World of Spectrum at http://www.void.jump.org/ and download an emulator. They're available for a lot of platforms including Unix, Amiga, and Win CE. (Warajevo is my personal favorite for Win9x). You now have *free* access to over 10,000 programs, which you can also download from WOS. If you happen to have a *real* Speccy (or a TS2068 with emulator cart) and a Win9x peecee, you can then download Taper, which you can use to transfer the programs to a cassette, or directly into the input of your Spec/2068. Anyone up for a run at Enduro Racer, Rainbow Islands, or Chuckie Egg? ;>) Glen 0/0 From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Gareth Knight wrote: > > > The Sinclair Spectrum is being relaunched by Amstrad as part of their email > > phone. > > http://www.amstrad.com/ams121101/emp_games.html > > That's too cool. I must have one. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival

24 years, 1 month

386/BSD should be on TUHS.

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I want to bring my first private UNIX machine, the i486/33 back into its original state running 386/BSD 0.0new or 0.1. Shouldn't these releases and the patch-kit be put up on TUHS? I'm not sure I still have backups, and a fresh install would be nice. regards -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 1 month

DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > For me it's easier to get the > CORRECT drive and media than it is to cobble something up that may or may > not work or be reliable! FINALLY -- the voice of reason regarding the "will this media work in that drive" questions. Match the drive and the media and avoid a hassle and a lot of lost data. Thanks Joe! Glen 0/0

24 years, 1 month

Attn: stan perkins

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Stan, I can't find your address but I thought this might interest you. Joe HP PASCAL 9000 LANGUAGE 500 REFERENCE MANUAL Item # 2011192981

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com > > On Mar 20, 12:59, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > From: Jay West > > > > B) I also like the 'self-policing' idea of making posts to the list > > from > > > non-subscribers get a subject tag of [OL] or something like that. > > > > Another good idea. > > > > Can't the system compare the From or ReplyTo field against the > > subscriber list, and take action from there? > > People like me might need some assistance here. You see, my > _actual_ > > e-mail address is DAW(a)yalespress3.unipress.yale.edu. Yale ITS just > provides > > an alias for me which is David.Woyciesjes(a)Yale.edu. Both work fine, and > I > > think both are in the headers of my messages. Confuses some other > automated > > mail systems... > > Good point. There are almost certainly people on the list who've > subscribed from a different address than the one they have the mail sent > to. Not insurmountable, but it does need consideraton. > > -- > Of course, it depends on how people get subscribed/added to the list. I would think addresses can be changed by hand on the server, right? Maybe this would be fixed on a case by case basis. Either way, messages would still go through until Jay, or someone designated by him, updates the address list... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 1 month

TI 980B picture

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

As requested, I have posted a picture of my recently aquired TI980B at... http://penguincentral.com/retrocomputing/pix/ti980b/02cj003a.jpg I am still in the cleaning/checkout phase. I have not applied power to it yet. I need to get a better digital camera. Right now, I'm using an Apple QuickTake 150, but I don't have the close-up lens. It would cost new >from Apple about 50% of what I paid for the camera, PSU, external battery pack and download cable. :-( As it is, I've taken hundreds of excellent outdoor shots with it. It's awful for indoor photos where detail is important. I think its default minimum focal length is about 24" and the flash is so bright it causes spots on reflective surfaces (the closeup lens also has a flash diffuser). I might try to rig up a 2' string and a flash diffuser to at least not take pictures that will be clearly outside the boundaries of the camera's physical limitations, but even so, I still need a new camera. My current favorite is a Kodak DC290. The only thing I've seen with as much manual control that's newer is the DC4800. Comparing them side-by-side, I still think I want the DC290. Even got a fistful of 16MB CF cards to go in it! As for the TI 980B, with the exception of the very scary, undocumented, rack-mounted 2-square-feet of prototyping board that was cabled into the DMA slot, it looks very clean. I have no idea what this peripheal was supposed to do, and since it was stored at a high-school electronics shop (which is being cleaned out this year which is how I got the TI in the first place), it's covered in bent pins and broken wires. I also know there are several missing chips (they came in the bottom of the box - some jumper blocks with jumper resistors and a few 74181s, at least). I doubt I'll ever be able to discern what this homemade peripheral ever did, so I expect to photograph it and recycle the chips into other classic machines (there's some Motorola RTL chips on there! Perfect for my attempts to replicate a DEC W706/W707 if I ever get that far). If I can get my camera happy making closeups, I'll see about adding some pictures of the CPU and memory boards to the pic of the front panel. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 20, 12:59, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > From: Jay West > > A) Reject posts to the list which contain any kind of HTML content... > > > Sounds good to me. > > I think a Reply To Sender telling them why it got rejected might be > a good thing. Then we might not piss off some 70 year old guy trying to give > his F-1 a good home... You probably still would, becasue although I've yet to find a mail client that can't send plain text (every version of Outlook I've seen can), chances are the 70-year old isn't sure how to change it. My father certainly wouldn't know how. > > B) I also like the 'self-policing' idea of making posts to the list from > > non-subscribers get a subject tag of [OL] or something like that. > > Another good idea. > > Can't the system compare the From or ReplyTo field against the > subscriber list, and take action from there? > People like me might need some assistance here. You see, my _actual_ > e-mail address is DAW(a)yalespress3.unipress.yale.edu. Yale ITS just provides > an alias for me which is David.Woyciesjes(a)Yale.edu. Both work fine, and I > think both are in the headers of my messages. Confuses some other automated > mail systems... Good point. There are almost certainly people on the list who've subscribed from a different address than the one they have the mail sent to. Not insurmountable, but it does need consideraton. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 20, 10:53, Jay West wrote: > A) Reject posts to the list which contain any kind of HTML content. I think > this would be fairly unobtrusive - most people don't want HTML posts here > anyways. This would reject a lot of spam, I think, but would reject some "real" posts as well. Personally, I find the multipart/alternative posts aren't too hard to deal with, it's the ones that use odd MIME settings (like multipart/signed and various other unnecessary stuff) that irritate me most. > B) I also like the 'self-policing' idea of making posts to the list from > non-subscribers get a subject tag of [OL] or something like that. This one I > am not sure how to do off the top of my head, but would think it pretty > straightforward. Comments? I think that's a good idea. Then people can do their own filtering if they want -- by eye if not by procmail or similar. I'd be very happy with that. > 2) WRT the archives at www.classiccmp.org THAT is a project I have fallen > far behind in. When I moved the list from the old ISP to the new ISP (me in > both cases, long story)... something broke in getting emails from the list > to the archive mechanism. I noticed this maybe a month ago, and when I > started digging into it I realized it was time for a change - the archives > there are not searchable and that just isn't acceptable. I really miss the archive. I find the threading very useful, and I'd certainly regard that as an important factor, more so than searching (I can use Google for that). However, I have some idea of the resources that go into maintaining lists and archives, and I'm grateful for what I've got :-) Thank you for providing it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

24 years, 1 month

Toilett processing (Was: ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 20, 15:50, Hans Franke wrote: > Isn't using a PDP-11 as perhipheral processor for a ZX81 > a bit out of scope ? Surely you don't think it should be the other way around? :-) > (*) Ach ja: if the TU (toilet user) had tried to open the > door, a message like 'The sanitary sywstem of this UDP > facility would apreciate if you also cleanthe door handle' > should be added. LOL! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by mythtech＠mac.com

>BTW, the latest AOL cannot be 'de-HTML-ized' from what I've heard - you can >send plaintext mail, but if you reply to an HTMLized email, the entire >message stays HTMLized and you can't change it. This is correct. There is not way to "turn off" HTML at all in the latest AOL. The only thing you can do is use ONLY the default email text settings. If you do that, then AOL will send a text only email. But ANY alterations to it will cause AOL to send HTML email (you can redefault it in the prefs to turn it back off). And if you receive an HTML email, you can't de-HTML it in AOL. Once HTML, always HTML in AOL. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

Disabling DSD-440 bootstrap

by tom＠sba.miami.edu

Does anyone know what jumpers to change to disable the bootstrap on the DSD-440 controller? Actually, if anyone has the rest of the jumper settings, I would also like to know for reference, since I don't have any docs for it. Thanks, Tom

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Allison > > From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > >I know that some people (very few) have technological impediments that > >force them into HTML (Outlook, etc., I think). > > This is bunk! Outlook can and does post without html, it's easy to turn > off. > > Please, NO HTML and No IMAGES. The latter was part of a few spams > we got! > > Allison > > Well, I'm using Outlook on my Mac, and HTML/Richtext crap is off... Or should be... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 1 month

Toilett processing (Was: ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Chris > > >- How about a TP holder that measures the weight? Or a spring loaded > >arm, that contacts a switch when it get near empty. With a wheel at the > end, > >you can also have it provide drag on the roll, for spin control. Then it > >won't be so easy for my cat to run all around the house with it... > > You read my mind... I was going to suggest a spring arm pressing against > the roll. The further the arm travels, the lower the roll. This should > also take very little adjustment since you are looking for % left. > Actually, since rolls all share a common spindle diameter... it would be > easy to have this auto adjust for good thick rolls vs, cheap economy > paper. You know the end location, so add a sensor to know when the roll > has been changed. When the "new roll" sensor is tripped, take the current > reading, that is max size. Now you can calculate the difference from > there to empty, and relay a % left no matter what the initial thickness > is. (the only time this would start to be off is on roll "reloads" of > partially used rolls).... > > .... > Nah... a simple spring arm reading resistance based off roll diameter > would probably work best. > It doesn't even have to be that complicated. The cardboard tubes are all the same thickness, give or take a millimeter, so you know where the stop point is, all the time, every time. Set the switch to trigger the TP=LO warning about 1/4 or 1/2 inch away from that point. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 20, David Woyciesjes wrote: > Dave - what/where are the web mail services that don't send html > mail? I investigated this some time ago and found several; I didn't keep a record of them though. > Or even a service I can telnet/ssh into for e-mail... For the latter, a friend of mine runs a shell account service...I will ask her if she's interested in a little publicity; if she is I'll send a message to the list about it. > I'm going to be switching to a new ISP for home (Comcast cable), so > this is a good time to really start some SPAM prevention measures... Sounds like a good idea. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

24 years, 1 month

VAXstation 4000/90 with /60 graphics

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. I converted a VAXstation 4000/60 to a /90 by replacing the main system board. The new machine works well: KA49-A V1.0-006-V4.0 08-00-2B-37-58-9D 32MB OK 83 BOOT SYS but when I plug in the old graphics board from the /60 I get: KA49-A V1.0-006-V4.0 08-00-2B-37-58-9D 32MB ?? 016 2 0000 >>> Is the /60 graphics board not compatible with the /90 main system board? -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

24 years, 1 month

Toilett processing (Was: ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam)

by mythtech＠mac.com

>- How about a TP holder that measures the weight? Or a spring loaded >arm, that contacts a switch when it get near empty. With a wheel at the end, >you can also have it provide drag on the roll, for spin control. Then it >won't be so easy for my cat to run all around the house with it... You read my mind... I was going to suggest a spring arm pressing against the roll. The further the arm travels, the lower the roll. This should also take very little adjustment since you are looking for % left. Actually, since rolls all share a common spindle diameter... it would be easy to have this auto adjust for good thick rolls vs, cheap economy paper. You know the end location, so add a sensor to know when the roll has been changed. When the "new roll" sensor is tripped, take the current reading, that is max size. Now you can calculate the difference from there to empty, and relay a % left no matter what the initial thickness is. (the only time this would start to be off is on roll "reloads" of partially used rolls) Two problems with the earlier mentioned rotation counter... 1: you need to deal with vastly different sheet counts (Scott will turn WAY more times than Charmin will, but both are roughly the same diameter, just Charmin is thicker so has fewer sheets per roll, thus fewer turns till empty). And of course, a turn based counter needs to subtract for roll re-rolling... for the times the cat decides to use it as a batting toy, and unrolls half of it onto the floor. The counter has to subtract turns as you spin the paper back onto the roll. Oh yeah... and a spin counter would be throw off by those 4am "where did the end of the roll go blind half asleep multiple rotations trying to find the start" situations. Nah... a simple spring arm reading resistance based off roll diameter would probably work best. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jay West [mailto:jwest@classiccmp.org] > A) Reject posts to the list which contain any kind of HTML > content. I think > this would be fairly unobtrusive - most people don't want > HTML posts here > anyways. And - I would bet that most all SPAM contains some > form of HTML, so > this might not get rid of all SPAM forever, but I think it > would make the > very few that come here dwindle to even less. Comments? > B) I also like the 'self-policing' idea of making posts to > the list from > non-subscribers get a subject tag of [OL] or something like > that. This one I > am not sure how to do off the top of my head, but would think > it pretty > straightforward. Comments? I like plan B. It sounds simple enough, and people can decide whether to trash the off-list mail themselves. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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