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list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

1) Ok, here are the two things I was considering doing to change the mailing list settings.... A) Reject posts to the list which contain any kind of HTML content. I think this would be fairly unobtrusive - most people don't want HTML posts here anyways. And - I would bet that most all SPAM contains some form of HTML, so this might not get rid of all SPAM forever, but I think it would make the very few that come here dwindle to even less. Comments? B) I also like the 'self-policing' idea of making posts to the list from non-subscribers get a subject tag of [OL] or something like that. This one I am not sure how to do off the top of my head, but would think it pretty straightforward. Comments? 2) WRT the archives at www.classiccmp.org THAT is a project I have fallen far behind in. When I moved the list from the old ISP to the new ISP (me in both cases, long story)... something broke in getting emails from the list to the archive mechanism. I noticed this maybe a month ago, and when I started digging into it I realized it was time for a change - the archives there are not searchable and that just isn't acceptable. So - I have been looking for software to HTML'ize the mailing list that allows searching as well. I really need suggestions here as my initial searches came up less than satisfactory. The archives are currently using hypermail. My criteria is something that is FreeBSD and Sendmail friendly, and allows searching the archives OR viewing them by thread. I don't mind if the emails need to get stored in a database, but if they do, mysql must be the database used (picky aren't I). The only package I found had statements all over it to the effect that "this package will no longer be supported by the author". I did notice the list archives for netsaint that are stored at sourceforge look REALLY nice, and do allow searching, but didn't see a good way to follow threads. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can point me to mail list archives that work well (for the user) and look nice (or to software for unix that does the same). Please send these suggestions to me off-list at jwest(a)classiccmp.org 3) This isn't really important - just random "what if" thinking out loud - I was considering moving the mailing list and mail list archives off to a separate machine that does nothing but classiccmp. This is being considered for logistics reasons, not for horsepower/load reasons. I have all the spare components (cpu, memory, drives, etc) but no spare rackmount chassis. I can just order a rackmount chassis under my company which I'm perfectly willing to do, but was wondering if anyone had a rackmount chassis just laying around that they didn't need and would donate to the cause. The key criteria - EIA units (space!). I would strongly prefer a 1U (1 EIA unit, or 1.75 inches) tall unit. We charge on rackspace by the inch, so I want the machine to take as little space as possible so I can obviously sell the rackspace to other paying customers. I would consider a 2U (2.5 inches) tall unit (which I already have spare) as a fall-back plan, but definitely nothing taller than that. Anyone have a spare laying around? If so, please contact me OFF LIST at jwest(a)classiccmp.org Regards, Jay West

24 years, 1 month

Apple's A/UX

by mythtech＠mac.com

Does anyone know where there are some archives of Apple's A/UX OS and some of its software (like AppleShare Server Pro, and Retrospect 2.0Ci). I just acquired an Apple Workgroup Server 95 (which is actually 9 years old, so its ALMOST on topic), and since it originally was designed to use A/UX, I figured it would be a good system to play with it on. I'm just not sure where to get a copy, so I figured I would start by asking here, since I know A/UX has been brought up before (heck, maybe I will get lucky, and one of you has the original software that came with the WGS 95, and would be willing to send me a copy). TIA -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

Basic GIGI usage

by tony.eros＠machm.org

I set up a DEC GIGI yesterday, but I'm not sure I did it right. I connected the RGB connectors to the monitor and connected the "MONO" connector to the "Video In" port on the monitor. When I turn everything on, the GIGI's "Local", "Basic" and "L1" lamps are on and the screen paints from a solid light blue to a solid brick red. Then the screen clears, leaving a block cursor flashing at the top left corner of the screen and the "Online" lamp lit on the GIGI. But I get no response on the keyboard. Are there any GIGI owners out there with a tip as to what I'm doing wrong? Does anyone have any scanned GIGI docs? Thanks! -- Tony

24 years, 1 month

Recent Road Trip pics of stuff avalable PDX

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I was back in Portland for a few hours and visited a friend who is a secondary market dealer. He wanted to know what to do with a Sun 3/280 that I had mentioned to the list earlier and an Alpha 2100 Server he had gotten in. He also had found a couple of rare HP calculators that I had him searching for. Included are the Sun and Alpha, an Alpha 503e Personal Workstation, a HP9100B, a HP46 Desktop, The DEC InfoServer 150 I mentioned earlier and a sneak look at one of the "saved" piles The Alpha Server 2100 I am sure is working but the drives have been pulled, no sleds either. Came from the Government. I think the Alpha 503e PW is complete but I only took a picture of it as an after thought. The DEC InfoServer 150 looks complete and operational. I have the equipment to test there but not the time. I posted the pictures here: http://hometown.aol.com/innfogra/ The Alpha 503e he is planning on selling on eBay. He also wants top dollar for the HP Calculators. However I have got him to take offers from the list first. He has the ability to ship heavy items. He also does a good job shipping airport to airport on some heavy systems. I prefer to be contacted at whoagiii(a)aol.com. Things are getting busy and there are times I can't read the list for quite a while. Paxton Astoria, Oregon USA

24 years, 1 month

Symbolics 3620 screen issues

by tony.eros＠machm.org

I've seeing some screen jitters on the screen of my Symbolics 3620. The characters are sort of doubled up and horizontally offset, as if you had two copies of the same text on a pair of overhead slides, lined them up one over the other and then moved the top one about a half-character to the right. Take the whole thing, make it kind of blurry and you have the effect I see. Is this a standard sort of monitor problem that is easily fixed by tweaking some internal pot (I hope!) or is it likely some bigger problem? Does anyone have any maintenance documentation on this beast or a spare monitor they don't need? Thanks! -- Tony

24 years, 1 month

Toilett processing (Was: ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam)

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Douglas Quebbeman may have mentioned these words: > -- and I said originally -- >> I remember seeing greenbar, pinfed *bedsheets* a long time >> ago... I wonder if any company's still making them. ;-) >If not, someone has a lot of it in stock... > >I bought a brand new box of 20lb greenbar at Office Despot >in June 2001 for $38.00. I was really talking about the bedsheets - I think they'd be a cool part of 'retro dream-computing...' and might be quite rare nowadays... I have a color lazer with serial/parallel/ethernet ports, full Postscript 2 capability, 2G SCSI hard drive, and 112Meg RAM - I can print from most any classic machine I have (some multiport, like my Tandy 200, can print on the serial & parallel interfaces... ;-) so actual greenbar paper isn't ezactly at the top of my list... The only classic machine I can't get to print is my MicroVAX 3100/m38 - and that's only because I can't get it to talk TCP/IP... :-( <sniff> Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

24 years, 1 month

Free highspeed PPT punch available..

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

the catch ? It's local pickup only in Zurich , Switzerland.n Its a 110 V rackmount Tally unit in good cosmetic condition, functionality unknown. Contact me offlist if interested. Jos Dreese

24 years, 1 month

PDP 7 saga

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Pardon my bad taste in replying to my own message, and the spelling error on the previous subject line. I am posting this on the list because of the broad interest and the fact that I haven't compiled a list of all interested. I will do that soon. I did not get to look at it. My meeting schedule got changed around and was not able to make connections. I did talk with people on the phone so they know there is interest. I spoke with the operator and he said that it is just "idle" at the moment. I have scheduled another appointment for April 1st or 2nd when I will be next down there. It sounds like nothing is happening immediately. Expect pictures like the ones I have posted of my recent Road trip. Paxton Astoria, OR

24 years, 1 month

HELP! RA81 power sequencing jumper, where the heck is that?

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Gunther Schadow wrote: > Whatever. Who can tell me where this power sequencing jumper > is so that I can set it to being the first to spin up? You have two small round connectors on the back of the drive. Those are the power sequence in and out. You usually hooked all (or groups) of RA81 together with the power sequence cables, and the drives started in sequence. About 10 seconds between each drive. The first drive have a special plug in the in-socket. Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

24 years, 1 month

HP9133 HDAs (was Re: DSQD Drives)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote (after Joe Rigdon): > > 225s and 251s are handy to keep around since they'll replace a number of > > OLD hard drives. I've used 225s to replace the dries inside of some of the > > HP HP-IB disk drives. > > The hard disks in my HP9133s _are_ ST225s. And AFAIK they're original > from HP. Sounds like a 9133D, which did have a half-height ST225 inside. The earlier 9133XVs used something full-height. -Frank McConnell

24 years, 1 month

PDP & saga

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I am posting this on the list because of the broad interest and the fact that I haven' t compiled a list of all interested. I will do that soon. I did not get to look at it. My meeting schedule got changed around and was not able to make connections. I did talk with people on the phone so they know there is interest. I spoke with the operator and he said that it is just "idle" at the moment. I have scheduled another appointment for April 1st or 2nd when I will be next down there. It sounds like nothing is happening immediately. Expect pictures like the ones I have posted of my recent Road trip. Paxton Astoria, OR

24 years, 1 month

Tek 2230 @ 2232

by mdg＠idirect.com

Hi; Question to you Tek gurus; is the 2230 a true digital scope meaning that what you see is a digitized signal or is it an analog scope that has a digital storage function that you turn ON whenever you need to capture something ?. Is the 2232 the same in that respect ? . I remember using one of them years ago at work - I could see a nice trace of 67 MHz (analog) but I could also use a digital storage function to capture a 20 kHz event. Now I need one for myself; as for the digital scopes I've found that the ones I'd accept are those with 2 Gs/sec to be able to see a series of not very repeatable periods at 80 MHz but they are a bit too expensive... .So I need a 100 MHz analog with digital storage capability at lower freq. Please respond to my E-mail adress: mdg(a)idirect.com Thanks, Art

24 years, 1 month

Infoserver 150 DEC

by fdebros＠verizon.net

Does anybody here have a Users Manual I could purloin? Fred

24 years, 1 month

New Additions to the Museum

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

1. Singer/Friden EC 1117 calculator that works got it for $3. 2. 20+ different mousepads. 3. NEC TurboGrafx 16 with CD ROM missing controller and ac adapter. 4. NEC TurboBooster 5. TRS-80 fifteen meg external harddrive. Model 26-4156 6. TRS-80 Model II KB 7. Entex electronics Hockey hand held console from 1979. 8. GI Joe MAINFRAME action figure - New from 1986. 9. Atari 7800 Pro system with 15 + cartridges. 10. Box full of Sega Saturn items. 11. A Nintendo Virtual Boy 12. Compaq Portable 386 "lunchbox style". 13. Book Computers The Machines We Think With by D.S. Halacy, Jr - 1969. Have not read it yet but the pic's are nice. I have already spotted a few items that I will have to start looking for.

24 years, 1 month

MiniMINC

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Oh yeah... the PDT had 6 terminal connectors on the back -- the console port, three serial lines for terminals, one serial line for a printer and one modem port which could be either asynch or synch. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

24 years, 1 month

FS/Trade: StorageTek 2920 9track

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I'm looking to get rid of my StorageTek 2920 9track tape drive, if anyone is interested. It *might* need a new head, but probably just needs a better I/O card than what I had. PERTEC interface, rack-mountable (actually needs to be racked for it to sit up correctly), about 150lbs, 120VAC in. It worked for a few tapes I tried - the problem might actually be in the tapes I was attempting to use with it. Would prefer local pickup, but could ship (assuming I can find somewhere that'll take something this heavy) if paid enough to do it. I'm not really looking for much money, just 'enuough' for a couple meals or so. Best offer within 24hrs gets it (or a flip of the coin if I get multiple offers). -- Pat West Lafaytte, IN.

24 years, 1 month

My VMS Conundrums... (was: Toilett processing...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Geoff Roberts <geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au> >?? I didn't think the video device need to be configured. VMS should take >care of that, and it should 'just work'. Yep, usually on install. RE: printing. The default printer will go to one of the serial ports, nominally one labeled with a printer. You can do a {print/que=devname} also. UCX or one of the IP stacks can be installed. However I vaguely remember around V5.5 remote ques and printservers were incorperated into VMS services. Allison

24 years, 1 month

IBM 3480 parts

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Well, I can't find any buyers for my IBM 3480 units, so I'm starting to disassemble one of them so I can re-gain some free space and probably sell off the large chunks of steel. I was wondering - does anyone (Sridhar?) have any technical docs for the 3480, like a service manual or something that would tell me the pinouts of things like the display? Thanks -- Pat

24 years, 1 month

SIMTEL (was Re: Source code for 805x line-by-line assembler?)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I'm hoping to come up with an alternative to this, naturally, but I have to > start somewhere, and that will require a line-by-line assembler, so one can > use the mnemonics instead of having to learn the HEX codes for each > instruction. > > Hopefully there's one already been done out there somewhere ... Brain rot kept me from remembering how I handled this... I didn't... well, I have a hardware debugger called DryIce-51 or something like that. You pull your 8051, plug this in, it has its own 8051, and IIRC it has an assembler built-in. Handy for debugging interrupt routines, althought it's not a true ICE, so you can't trace through machine states. Then again, more brain rot... I had *some* kind of monitor, because for the DS5000, I found it handier to use it than to pull the chip and stick in the DryIce. Found the SIMTEL 8051 stuff, at least what I downloaded. Wasn't much. But I have a WIC-80 tape labeled to indicate some more 8051 stuff is on it. The 486 with the Jumbo-250 seems to be dying... -dq

24 years, 1 month

Wright Punch up for auction

by mhstein＠canada.com

Gee, Brian, I offered one of these right here at the same time as that pile of IBM docs that I sent to Norm & you; ya shoulda spoken up. How are you guys coming along with scanning those manuals? Anything on line yet? mike -----------------Original Message----------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:08:22 -0800 From: "Brian Knittel" <brian(a)quarterbyte.com> Subject: Wright Punch up for auction There's a Wright Punch up for auction at www.govliquidation.com. The Wright Punch is a cool little manual hollerith card keypunch machine. Someone ought to get it! It slipped by me -- auction closes at 8 PM eastern time, that's less than an hour from now. Sealed Bid sale, $35 min. The downside is you have to pick it up in Norfolk, VA next week, and take a big pile of other junk along with it. You'll need a pickup. If you're interested it's event 623, lot 46, item 37. http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=25154 Brian

24 years, 1 month

ZX81 and 6116

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, Tony Duell wrote: > IIRC it's a true static RAM, 1K*8, 24 pin DIL, pinout similar to the 2716 > or 6116. I think WE/ is on pin 21, and I can't remember what's on pin 19 > (which would be A10 if it were a 2K device). Maybe nothing, maybe another > CS input. > > It was not commonly used, but my Nascom2 has a few in it... What's a Nascom2? That name sounds familiar. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

24 years, 1 month

My VMS Conundrums... (was: Toilett processing...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Roger Merchberger wrote: > >The usual... I don't have any paper-based documentation whatsoever -- all I http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/ Admittedly not as convenient as paper-based, but pretty useful nonetheless. Start, I guess, with the User's Manual: http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/6489/6489pro.html >I've tried 'help' but there are a lot of things that *just* *won't* *run* >whatsoever, including [but not limited to] every text editor I've tried, >because I can't figure out how to get the terminal screen configured... >which (of course, with my luck) 'help' either 1) doesn't tell me, or 2) has >obfuscated it *so* badly that I won't have a chance in Hades of ever >finding it there... What terminal do you have connected? If it's one of the VT series, try: $ SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE and don't type anything until the $ prompt comes back >I used the VMS construct of DOS's 'copy con filename.txt' {I don't remember >what it is anymore -- it's been 6-9 months since I've even sparked up my >VAX} to try to do a few things on it, but it's so hard editing anything >that I took what little spare time I had towards other pursuits. :-/ $ EDIT filename.txt will fire up some variant of TPU with an EVE personality but EDIT/EDT is still around (if you've ever used a standard editor on RT11 or RSX, this is pretty near identical. emacs and vi[m] are available too. >The system: >VAXStation 3100/m38, 32Meg RAM, VMS Version 7.1 [the full monty - even has >the BASIC package in the distro - 11 disks worth!], (2) 1Gig hard drives >{RZ26s? I think - it's been a while}, 2Meg 8-plane grafix buffer [this is >the biotsch that won't config right for the terminal settings, hence no >text editors] 17" display, keyboard, mouse [of course] & I just got off >eBay 5 AUI->RJ45 transceivers [$22US shipped! Whoohoo!] so I won't have to >have thinnet strung all over my new ancient house - I can stick with Cat5. Did it come with the OS installed or did you do it? You could just re-install to get DECwindows. Without DECwindows you cannot do full-screen editing on the monitor - it's just a dumb glass tty. Your options appear to be: 1) flip S3 and hook up a VT to the printer port and use it as an alternate console 2) log in over the network (telnet or SET HOST) 3) Install DECwindows 4) Use EDT in line mode or use TECO (4) would be an education, but perhaps not ideal :-) (3) is the way to go. (2) you should do ... all VAXes have the right to be networked. Antonio

24 years, 1 month

HP9133 HDAs (was Re: DSQD Drives)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Yeh-- The 'XV' used the ST-419. Fifteen meg, *very* hard to get. An RD-52 can be used in it's place, although you can only use 15mb of it. I fergit what the 'V' used (was it an ST-506?). Jeff On 23 Mar 2002 09:43:51 -0800 Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> writes: > ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote (after Joe Rigdon): > > > 225s and 251s are handy to keep around since they'll replace > a number of > > > OLD hard drives. I've used 225s to replace the dries inside of > some of the > > > HP HP-IB disk drives. > > > > The hard disks in my HP9133s _are_ ST225s. And AFAIK they're > original > > from HP. > > Sounds like a 9133D, which did have a half-height ST225 inside. > The earlier 9133XVs used something full-height. > > -Frank McConnell > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

24 years, 1 month

Free highspeed PPT punch available..

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

the catch ? It's local pickup only in Zurich , Switzerland.n Its a 110 V rackmount Tally unit in good cosmetic condition, functionality unknown. Contact me offlist if interested. Jos Dreese

24 years, 1 month

HP Sketchpro digitiser

by dl6du＠t-online.de

Hi Do You have any information yet ?? I Have also such a digitizes and want to use it wit autocad 14 .. do you have any drivers ?? Aart

24 years, 1 month

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