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by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Alan Pearson wrote: >At the moment I'm using an ST running UNITERM hooked up to a >3100/30's console port so I'm stuck with just the one login session >at a time - occasionally I'd like to be able to flip over to SYSTEM >without having to mess about with logging out of AL and into SYSTEM >and back :-) Any ideas? Assuming you have DECnet installed you can do: $ SET HOST 0 and log in as SYSTEM. I run my VAxstation the same way - almost everything I do, I do with the unprived user account. Occasionally I fire up another terminal to do some stuff with SYSTEM. To be honest, once it's all set up, it doesn't need much tending to, so there's not too much need for SYSTEM access. What sort of things are you doing that need SYSTEM access ? Antonio

24 years

Phi-Deck Manual

by mhstein＠canada.com

Anybody need/want a tech manual for the digital group Phi-Deck Cassette Storage System (Controller and Deck)? mike

24 years

Teletype Equipment in Denver

by drhouse＠abac.com

Mike, Is Eric Smith still around? How can I get the equipment from Denver? I have a cargo trailer and truck but would need information. Thanks for any information! Don >It sounded like maybe Tom had some additional stuff for you. > >In any case, I encourage you to call Eric tomorrow (or even now!) to find >out exactly what his plans are. > >-Mike > > >On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Don Robert House wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:05:22 -0700 >> From: Don Robert House <drhouse(a)nadcomm.com> >> To: Mike Cheponis <mac(a)Wireless.Com> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Eric Smith asked me to post this >> >> Well I am still puzzled. The four small boxes he picked up in >> Jamestown New York are the items I am hoping to pick up in >> Bakersfield. >> > > Don > > > > >I'm pretty sure he had to leave quite a few things in Colorado, so I >> >don't think he will be stopping in Bakersfield on this trip. The uhaul >> >guy did some eyeballing of the load and, even with all the chicago stuff >> >unloaded, still thought what was left was overloading the truck. (!). I >> >don't think he got yelled at, I think they just replaced the springs. >> > >> >There is A Plan to go get that Colorado stuff plus some other stuff in >> >the next couple of months, tho, as I understand it. >> > >> >-Mike > > > > > >On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Don Robert House wrote: >> > >> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 20:35:58 -0700 >> >> From: Don Robert House <drhouse(a)nadcomm.com> >> >> To: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>, Mike Cheponis >><mac(a)Wireless.Com>, >> >> Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkleinschmidt(a)home.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Eric Smith asked me to post this >> >> >> >> I sure hope I get enough warning when he is coming to Bakersfield. >> >> > > >> Don -- -------------------------------------------------------- Don Robert House, N.S.E. Curator, NADCOMM North American Data Communications Museum 3841 Reche Road Fallbrook, CA 92028-3810 760-723-9943 Office 760-723-9984 FAX URL: http://www.nadcomm.org e-mail: drhouse(a)abac.com

24 years

Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > Well, I may be able to help you out here. I've got TB and a book or two. Thanks, Dick! I just found the manual, so all I really need are the disks, or copies of them. Let me know how much to send you, or if you prefer to email 'em that'll work too. Glen 0/0

24 years

HP 9114B drive question (Hey Joe!)

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

"Ernest" <ernestls(a)attbi.com> wrote: > What size floppy disks does the HP 9114B drive use? Is it 720k or 1.44 meg? they use 720K floppies HP 110, Portable PLUS and the IBM PC (using the HP-IL card) use 512 bytes per sector, 9 sectors per track for a formatted capacity of 710K The Series 40 and 70 use 256 bytes per sector, 16 sectors per track for a formatted capacity of 630K The lower capacity is due to the fact that the 9114 spares tracks to be used as replacements for bad sectors on the diskette. **vp

24 years

ZX81 and 6116

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> > Well, my instruction reads that L1 has to be set as soon as you have > a 4118 (or the otehr way around, it is only to be left out if you have > two 2114). Please check also the scanned assembly instructions at the > ZX Team pages (English Version) > http://home.t-online.de/home/p.liebert/f_zx81_e.htm Well, the schematic is also available on the TEAMs site (adjacent to the assembly instructions), although "L1 for 1K" and "L2 for 2K" does not exactly specify the number of RAM ICs . . . There were a number of revisions of the PCB which were issued. BUT -- I have 2 ZX81 PCBs and 1 TS1000 PCB close at hand, and what I found is that NO jumper is installed on either of the ZX81 boards (both are Issue One and have 2x2114), but the TS1000 (Issue 3 with a single 2016) has L2 (actually marked LK2) installed. I have a couple of dozen more of these at my shop, and will check them out as well. > BTW, have I already told the story that I build a > casher out of a ZX81 ? No, but I'd like to read it ;>) Glen 0/0

24 years

AMD am7960

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 26, Richard Erlacher wrote: > Volume, particuarly in SAN and MAN applications, will drive the prices down. > Once the cost is low enough, you might as well have lightspeed on your > desktop. Yes yes, but a little balance might be nice. Most system busses can't handle that sort of bandwidth...so what's the point? Faster is better...but only if it's *useful*. Upgrading for the sake of upgrading is bogus, and only serves the wallets of the vendors' VPs. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

24 years

QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > Not all Basic's are created equal -- I'd still give my left > <ahem> to be > able to run a Basic09-like package [for OS-9] on my other > machines... That > was another very powerful Basic. For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. Anyway, the point is that things based on BASIC don't need to be all bad. There is little difference between BASIC and many command languages which are perfectly useable. Now, whether one would write real software in it is another question. > How much do you think it costs Micro$haft to make a new > version of windows, > compared to the number of copies they jam down our throats? Well, I don't know about you, but nobody's ever forced me to buy a copy of windows. As a result, I never have bought a copy of windows ;) All my computers run other stuff, and are much better off for it. Give me CP/M any day. > As as been said many times before, they only charge what the > market will bear. I'm sure that at least some of the people in Apple may have been certain that they had added that much value to the drive. > If Apple got a lot of people to buy them, and folks didn't > complain about > the price, <M$Rant> and Apple didn't stifle competition so > they could jack > up the prices even more </M$Rant> does it really matter what > they charged > vs. what it cost them to build? It would have been a great opportunity for a competing company to produce apple 2 compatible drives. > <going OT> Most car chargers for cell phones cost between $20 > - $35 USD > each retail - they cost the dealers between $1.95 - $2.95 > each, quantity > 10.</going OT> > The beauty of capitalism. <g> It's amazing what you can get for a couple of wires and a cigarette lighter plug. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years

AMD am7960

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Scary. News to me. So...how long will it take for the industry to convince the general population that they NEEEEEED 10GB ethernet to their desktops? -Dave On March 26, Francis Bell wrote: > Well you can buy it from Cisco since September 5, 2001: > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/ifaa/6500ggml/ > > > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > On March 26, Richard Erlacher wrote: > > > >>Yeah! Gee! They're running Ethernet at 10GB nowadays ... > >> > > > > Really? Last I heard 10GB ethernet was still in the standardization > > process, and nobody had hardware that was even close to working. > > > > Hell, 1GB ethernet rarely (if ever) is run to capacity.. > > > > -Dave > > > > > > > -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

24 years

Blank CMS SCSI boards for Apple 2

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

{ the following was also posted on comp.sys.apple2 -- apologies if you have to read it twice :-) } Hello all, I just won on eBay a lot of blank CMS SCSI cards for the Apple 2. They appear to be production circuit boards, silkscreened, plated, traces run, etc., but NO parts or connectors installed. The following link to eBay gets you there, with a picture of the boards: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2006140386 I suspect that there is a ROM on board, and some long-obsolete SCSI controller chip on board as well, so I hold little hope, but I'd like to turn one or more of these into functional cards. With that goal in mind, here are some questions: - Does anyone have a ROM that they could make me a HEX dump of? I have no idea what revision board this is, unfortunately... - Can someone help me ID the board revision from part placement, etc.? - Would anyone be willing to take detailed digital pictures of their board and send them to me, so I can try to re-create it? - Would anyone be willing to loan me their board for a week or two so I can analyse it? Anyone who can help me with this will be sent one of these boards, if they desire... Well, let me say the first 20 or so to help get a board ... I've only got 25! :-) Thanks! Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

24 years

Unix disk images and archiving

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:00:26 -0400 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Unix disk images and archiving > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > I've gotten my '040 Cube's optical drive functioning again and now I > want to take the original distribution optical disks for various > versions of NeXTstep and make bootable copies of them on more usable > media, preferably for storage as disk images and as bootable volumes on > another SCSI disk. I was thinking of using another magneto-optical > drive, such as my Pinnacle Micro Sierra 1.3GB. I've got enough > optical disks to do this and the drive is an external MO. Is this > doable? The images will have to contend with up to 256MB of data and > must be fully writable to a new physical disk, including all boot > information. > > My '040 Cube is running NeXTstep 3.3 with CAPer, so if I made > images I could easily move them on to my main Mac for storage. The > distribution disks in question have NS 0.9, 1.0, 1.0a, 2.0, 2.1, and > 3.0, as well as a non-bootable disk of 3.2. They've been verified as > readable and still containing the OS (on my '040 Cube after being > locked). Due to the unknown quality of the OD in my '030 Cube I > really don't want to try and boot one on it and I'd like to get them > to another media before I lose the ability to > read them altogether. As I recall from experience upgrading a Cube from a 68030 to a 68040 CPU board, NS 1.0a and earlier would not boot on the 68040. They were written without knowledge of the future differences between a 68040 and a 68030, which are significant at the system stack level. Just something to think about. This does not prevent user-level software from running, just system stuff. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

24 years

[comp.sys.transputer] Free Transputer gear to a good home...

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

I would say this stuff is worth rescuing...Contact David Clarke by phone if interested. On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 04:31:22 -0500, David Clarke wrote: > Dear Readers, > > AT&T Labs Cambridge (once known as Olivetti Research) will close at the > end of April - barring a miracle. > > We have a number of B004 and B008 development boards, TRAMs and about 20 > individual transputers in PGA packages. As far as I know it is all in > working order, though it is a while since any of it was used. > > There is also a vintage 486 PC which has ISA slots suitable for the dev. > boards, but no monitor. > > I believe that we could donate it all to a researcher who was prepared > to collect it from our Lab in Cambridge (England). > > It is with great regret that I post this message, but if someone does > not take the stuff, it is likely to end up in the crusher. > > Which would be a pity. > > David Clarke > AT&T Labs Cambridge > +44 (0) 1223 343316 > > p.s. I'd prefer a phone call - email is ok but there is no point in > posting a reply to this newsgoup as I won't read it.

24 years

QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > -----Original Message----- > > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] > > > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. > > > While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter > > of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... > > I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess > > I should look at the source... > > Could be. Not having used DEC BASIC, myself, I'm not sure :) > > I am sure that Turbo Basic was a compiler. Well, at least as much as Turbo Pascal was... -dq

24 years

QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> At 04:05 PM 3/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter > >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... > >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess > >I should look at the source... > > If you're talking about DEC BASIC as implement on > VMS, you are wrong: What's a VMS? Is that a computer? I was talking about the DEC BASIC that made BASIC famous, the BASIC from TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 on the DECsystem-10. > VAX BASIC V3.8-000 Looks like some kind of vacuum cleaner to me...

24 years

AMD am7960

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 26, Richard Erlacher wrote: > Yeah! Gee! They're running Ethernet at 10GB nowadays ... Really? Last I heard 10GB ethernet was still in the standardization process, and nobody had hardware that was even close to working. Hell, 1GB ethernet rarely (if ever) is run to capacity.. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

24 years

AMD am7960

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Really? Last I heard 10GB ethernet was still in the standardization >process, and nobody had hardware that was even close to working. Hardware does exist - just you can't afford it (and it's probably not going to be available on the hobbyist market for a little while yet). Even the optics are hellishly expensive! > Hell, 1GB ethernet rarely (if ever) is run to capacity.. Well it's certainly run to capacity in the test labs. Exactly what customers fo with them is up to them! 100MB to the desktop seems to work well enough for me. Especially since the link out of the building is just a T1 ... Antonio

24 years

No subject

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can someone help Hans-Werner? -- From: Hans-Werner.Ruch(a)t-online.de (Hans-Werner Ruch) Subject: Intel iUP-201: Can you please help me? Date sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:29:59 +0100 Hi, I recently got one of the ancient Intel Eprom Programmer iUP-201 together with a FAST27/K adaptor and RS-232 cable. It still works fine (operated manually). Now my idea is to connect the iUP to a PC to transfer data to/from it, but unfortunately I haven't got any documentation and so I neither know the necessary RS-232 parameters (baudrate, kind of parity, no. of stop bits), nor the commands (strings/bytes?) the iUP awaits. If you have some information or documentation on this subject, I would really appreciate if you could send it to me. Hints are also welcome. -- Regards, Hans-Werner Ruch __________________________________________________ Drlinger Str. 5 b 82229 Seefeld Germany Fax +49-(0)8152-980027 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years

Looking for Fujitsu/HAL GP7000F memory

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:05:42 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeffrey Katcher <jmkatcher(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Looking for Fujitsu/HAL GP7000F memory > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Obsolete SPARC/Solaris server purchased on eBay.=20 > Takes some sort of SIMM/DIMM but not specified > anywhere. I know it's not exactly a historic machine, > though it is awfully nice as a home computer. > > Is anyone familiar with these beasts? Does this have a Sun model number? Have you looked at the Sun Hardware Reference? < www.sunhelp.org/faq/sunref1.html > carl

24 years, 1 month

Unix disk images and archiving

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 05:12:50 -0500 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: Unix disk images and archiving > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > >I think you will have to write a disktab entry for the MO drive. I had > >to add one for the Jaz. NS3.3 is pretty good at determining disk > >geometry if the drive supports the sense command. Since PM bit the > >dust, I'm not sure if there is much documentation out there about the MO > >drive. Also keep in mind that the NeXT cube SCSI implementation is > >pretty primitive. > > Thanks James...I'll try the disktab from your other message. > > >One question, does the MO drive show up in the Workspace browser when > >you insert a disk? I can't format a Jaz cart from the command prompt > >with disk, but I can by selecting it in the GUi and then selecting Disk > >Initialize....I don't know why. > > Yes, the DOS and Mac formatted disks mount automatically when > the disks are inserted and on one it doesn't recognize it asks if I > want to initialize. It fails initialization from the Workspace just > as it did from the shell. I wasn't sure if NS supported > 512bytes/sector or not on the MO. > > I'll let you know how the disktab works. For what it's worth, I have used 3.5" MO disks on my NeXTs for many years. They have 512 bytes/sector. I did have to write a disktab entry, although the values in the table do not at all resemble the true disk geometry. (1 head, 25 sectors, 10000 tracks approx.) Just keep the product of heads * sectors * tracks less than the actual number of sectors on the disk. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

24 years, 1 month

Emulex UC08 ( Qbus SCSI controller )

by stanus＠multitel.be

Hi, I have a old Vax 3400 computer with an Emulex UC08 in it, but I dont'have any manuel, any UC08 original scsi cables, neither the pin out of the Emuler UC08 front connector Can anybody help ? Thanks Etienne Stanus Multitel ASBL 1 Avenue Nicolas Copernic 7000 Mons Belgium etienne.stanus(a)ieee.org

24 years, 1 month

Unix disk images and archiving

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:09:06 -0600 > From: "James L. Rice" <jrice(a)texoma.net> > Subject: Re: Unix disk images and archiving > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Organization: Megaeasy Computer Solutions > > Jeff, after I emailed you my answer last night, I was thinking that you > should be able to just "dd" the images to a files: > > dd if=/dev/<insert device here> of=/tmp/name-of-image-file.here > > I create floppy images by: > > dd if=/dev/rfd0b of=/tmp/3.3_Mot_Boot_Disk.floppyimage > > You should be able to do the same for the OD images. It takes about 5 > minutes to create a floppyimage (1.44mb) on my Turbo Slab, so the > process won't be fast on a whole 256mb OD. You may have to create a > disktab entry for the Pinnacle Micro Optical Drive, but I've got a Jaz > and a Zip working on my Slab, so I'm sure it's very doable. Presumably using partition "h" which is the whole disk, including the "front porch" area where the bootstrap and partition table live. When I did something analogous to this to save my old NeXT OD's, I did not try to preserve the bootstrap etc. Just copied the whole file system to a DAT tape using GNUtar, then extracted it on a SparcStation, and built and burned an ISO CDrom. The result was readable on the NeXT, but of course not bootable. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

24 years, 1 month

DEC Hardware design available

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Just a note that <http://www.alibris.com/home.cfm> lists two copies of Computer Design: A DEC View ... for sale. One is $34 and one is $57. That's cheaper than Ebay by a long shot. --Chuck

24 years, 1 month

ancient terminals, was: Re: ZX-81 Question

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On 2002.03.26 12:55 Hans Franke wrote: > > > This construction reminded me of > > 1970 style 'inteligent' terminals where screen buffer was more like a > > code of some sort to be executed by the diplay processor which was a > > micro code engine itself. > > And that reminds me of the Tektronix ASCII Terminal I rescued lately. > Characters are drawn only once and the analog "memory" display tube > keeps the dots fluoresceing. No screen refresh! This is one of the > Terminals where you can see that Tektronix is well known for > oscilloscopes... This was Tek's "Storage Tube" technology... or something like that. We had a o-scope at school which used it... never got to work with the computer displays that had it, tho... -dq

24 years, 1 month

Looking for Fujitsu/HAL GP7000F memory

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Katcher [mailto:jmkatcher@yahoo.com] > Is anyone familiar with these beasts? Well, I can't tell you what sort of RAM it uses. I can say that I think it's ultrasparc, if it's the HAL I'm thinking of. They used to have an advertisement along the lines of "Still using a 32-bit workstation? Why be normal?" That might give you some idea of time-frame. They were very nice for SPARCs in their day. They were also supposed to be somewhat more modular than their SUN counterparts. I believe Unix Review did at least one article on them. I think they've stopped printing Unix Review now, but that a web publication still exists. (Could be wrong there...) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 1 month

QL-Quality (Was: ZX-81 Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Honniball [mailto:coredump@gifford.co.uk] > The ICL One Per Desk! The name tells you just how many they thought > they'd sell. I have one, bought at a junk shop in Bath, and here's > a (not very good) photo: > http://www.gifford.co.uk/~coredump/opd.htm > Note the phone handset on the left-hand side and the two phone cords. It looks like an Atari 800 with a telephone built in. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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