Rumor has it that Paul Thompson may have mentioned these words:
>There is a utility called persona that will work on recent versions of
>VMS which effectively works like su. You would need to install it with
>priv's in order not to be running those priv's needed to run it in your
>usual account.
>
>PERSONA.MAR, you would need to
>MACRO PERSONA.MAR
>LINK PERSONA.MAR (LINK/SYSEXE on alpha, as I recall)
[snip]
>10$:
> ; MOVAB ROUT1,M_DESC ; Done at initialization
> PUSHAL PROMP
> PUSHAL P_DESC
> CALLS #2,G^LIB$GET_FOREIGN ; Get required username
> BLBS R0,20$ ; of not OK, then
> BRW 100$ ; jump to error - message
[snip]
Is this an example of VAX/VMS assembly language?
And if so, what would a good reference be to learn it?
Thankz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
On March 28, John Allain wrote:
> Put simply:
> Anybody have any horror stories about using digital
> data 8mm tapes in a Camcorder?
> My personal belief is that they are overbuilt, if anything.
No horror stories specifically, but I do recall from when the
Exabyte 8500 came out that the tapes that were sold for data use were
the only ones that worked reliably in the 5GB drives...I read at the
time that the magnetic characteristics of the media were
different...higher coercivity I think, but I don't have specific
information.
For video use, I'd think there'd be nonlinear amplitude response at
best, but it's probably worth a try.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant,
St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>There's plenty of CP/M software out there. All you need to do is find one
of
>the mirrors of the late Tim Olmstead's unofficial CP/M site.
There are several still up, The last location of Tim's site is back up.
>original MSDOS' EDLIN. The editor of choice for CP/M would probably be
>WordStar, of which there are several versions for CP/M. It does come with
an
If you can find VEDIT, that is a very powerful screen editor with TECO macro
>from the command mode.
>Select the editor you want, keeping in mind that little of this stuff is
much
>use without a hard disk, which is not "rocket science" to add, provided you
>can snag a drive of the CP/M era. IDE drives are a mite more trouble, as
are
>SCSI types, but it's all been done. The maximum size for a CP/M 2.2 (plain
IDE offers the easiest of the lot to get and interface if the board was hard
disk
impared.
>vanilla version) system is 8 MB, and you can only have as many as 16
drives,
>including the floppies.
Thats per logical drive. A larger hard disk can be partitioned.
Or run one of the CP/M clones like P2DOS, ZRDOS, SUPRBDOS
as these have 32mb or higher logical disk limits.
>My understanding is that if you have a 60 MB drive,
>you can stick all the software that was ever published for CP/M, including
>sources, on it and still have room left. Some folks disagree, but I almost
I'd agree, actually most of the good must have stuff will fit easily on a 10
to 20mb drive with room to spare. The WC CP/M CDrom was I think under
100mb and that had whole libraries of several SIGs.
>believe that. Somebody sent me a CD of CP/M stuff that purportedly
contained
>pretty much "everything" there was, and it was barely 10% utilized.
Several
>CD's have been published, but most have what amounts to multiple copies of
the
>same stuff on them, so their capacity is not representative of what you
might
>need storage-wise.
The Walnut Creek cdrom is by far the most complete and maybe 10% utilized.
It's out of print but copies can be had. For serious CP/M users and
collectors
it's a must have along with the archivers used (ark, ARC, LHA, LBR...etal).
>Another thing to keep in mind is that the BigBoard runs at just over 2 MHz
>(2.5?). I've got several but really haven't considered how fast they run
in
>the original version, because I'm into hot-rodding. The software versions
I
>have don't use mode-2 interrupts, so one wonders why the designer used
those
>awkward Z80 peripherals that do little more than ensure that you can't run
the
>CPU faster than the peripherals, even though the CPU is quite capable of
it.
>Of course, the fact that the entire board is out of the Mostek and Zilog
>app-notes might explain that.
4mhz should be doable with minor effort. faster is as Dick said hampered
by the lack of suitably fast Z80 peripherals.
Allison
Thanks for the tip, Jeff; just browsed eBay and now that I have
a better idea what KIMs & AIMs are worth, I'll have to substantially
jack up the price of the AIM stuff I'm about to send ya :-)
Sounds reasonable, doesn't it Hans? Just to balance things out...
mike <grinning>
----------------Original Message----------------
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:30:49 +0100
From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
Subject: Re: SWTPc 6800 update
> > OK don't rub it in! :-/
> Rubbing it in would've been mentioning that the exact same
> KIM-1 setup I just picked up for near nothing had an identical twin
> on eBay go for $400..<g>
Somehow I get the impression that you are not a very sensitive friend :))
Trotzdem viel Spass
H.
I've got a couple of original sets as well, Version 1.1,
just in case. The 2nd disk had demo progs IIRC.
mike
-------------Original Message------------------
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:24:59 -0700
From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))
I'm quite comfortable that I have the file sets, but as far as the original
diskettes ... I don't know. I recall that I've got v1.0. That was on only
one diskette, IIRC.
That will easily fit in a zip file and fly via the 'net, I'd imagine.
That will leave me some time to hunt for the originals.
Dick
> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> Why is size/weight important for a machine that's not designed as a
portable?
Because heavier items cost more to ship and therefore cost more to
purchase??
> And as regards price, I (and virtually everone else I know) would rather
> pay enough and get something that's useable and reliable rather than pay
> too little and get something that's useless. I know this is an
> unconventional idea these days, though :-(
You are right on here. People nowadays could care less about quality if
they can save five percent of an item's cost.
> > Granted, the QL would possibly have enjoyed more success that way, but
> > Sinclair is Sinclair.
>
> Unfortunately, he's ruined just about all of his products in this way :-(
It's true. I'm a ZX81 fan because (as another listmember quipped) it's the
most minimalistic *full system* ever. But Sinclair's products were all
plagued with cheap parts. There are plenty of stories of how Sinclair
would change designs in the middle of a production run because they had
found a part that was ten cents cheaper, or they'd found a way to keep the
circuit intact while eliminating a couple of five-cent caps.
Glen
0/0
> From: Stan Barr <stanb(a)dial.pipex.com>
> Just to confuse things further the schematic I have shows L1 pulling pin
> 19 of the 4118 up to 5V when that's installed, and no L2 at all!
> The text refers to 2x2114 or a 4118 installed in the UK version and a
> 2K option for export - possibly there are 2 versions of the board?
Damn near every one of these things I've seen has been different in *some*
way!
I'm sorting through and testing a couple of dozen right now -- more later.
Glen
0/0
> From: Curt Vendel <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
> Back before Christmas I worked out a deal with Jeff Worley:
>
> Jeffrey S. Worley
> Asheville, NC USA
> 828-6984887
> UberTechnoid(a)Home.com
I'm sorry to learn you were ripped off. Thanks for the heads-up.
Glen
0/0
Hi,
do you know what the KA64A's self test #21 is? I have two of these
boards that just won't come up, they both stop at
#123456789 0123456789 01
which means that test #21 fails. Even when I put these boards in
a collective with 4 other KA64As that at least complete the
system self test and get me to a console prompt, I get the error
that these two boards didn't get to console mode. What could be
wrong here?
Thanks for your help!
-Gunther
PS: Frederik, those are the boards that were ment to go to
you. This is bad news. I hope it is just some nasty configuration
problem. What exact ROM and EEPROM revisions do you need?
--
Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org
Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
> I'm quite comfortable that I have the file sets, but as far as the
original
> diskettes ... I don't know. I recall that I've got v1.0. That was on
only
> one diskette, IIRC.
>
> That will easily fit in a zip file and fly via the 'net, I'd imagine.
>
> That will leave me some time to hunt for the originals.
Thanks again!
Glen
0/0
> From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
> I think Pete is right here. there was a wire you had to add if
> you used a 4118 (or 6116) instead of the 2114s. I have to grab
> the kit documentation to veryfy this.
After checking the schematic I find that there is a link. "Use L1 for 1K
RAM, use L2 for 2K RAM." This tells me that when a 4118 or two 2114s are
used (or a 6116???) there is no need to change the jumper -- it's only
required when using a 2KB 2016 or equivalent.
> Digging thru my ZX Stuff I found an _original_ "ZX81 2-K RAM" Kit *G*
> Well, it is at least original over here, since it has been sold by ISS,
> the official distributor of ZX81 stuff in Germany.
Wow -- did you ever use the kit?
> The kit konsists of a 24 pin socket and a NEC D446C-2 RAM
I'd guess this is the same as the 2016, and that you need to change the
link to L2 for it to work.
Glen
0/0
Heads up Minnesota or those in the area. Found this filed under photo stock.
Not only was it miss categorized but the owner has no idea what it is. Four
days to go.
It looks like a Portable R to R tape drive for an early Burroughs
Computerized Accounting Machines. (Looking at the styling)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1341100641
A great collectable but it is heavy. If anyone contacts the owner I would be
interested in what interface it has in it? I am not at all interested in the
drive but I know it is fairly rare now.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:03:26 -0500
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Unix disk images and archiving
> Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>
> >When I got my 68040 Cube upgrade kit it came with a motherboard and an
> >OD of NeXTstep 2.0, and a NeXT SIMM-puller tool. And some instructions
> >about the sequence in which to change things. All this information is
> >coming out of my occasionally fallible memory. But I'm sure that I was
> >using NS 2.0 and 2.1 long before I had a CD reader.
>
> Thanks for correcting me on that. Unfortunately, I've still
> not gotten NS 3.3 to reformat the DOS-formatted MO disks in my
> Pinnacle Sierra, even with the disktab entries that James provided.
> It appears to read them fine, as well as writing small text files to
> them, but it won't initialize them either from the Worksapce or a
> shell.
Yes. NeXTstep does not have the software drivers to build new raw
DOS file systems. Except on floppy disks, where the file structure is
much simpler. What there is lives in /usr/filesystems.
I suppose that nowadays you could attach your SCSI MO drive to a Linux
system and build a DOS file system there. There is a software package
"dosfstools".
Reading through again, if you want to reformat a MO disk from DOS to
NeXT, what I remember as the magic recipe is first to format it as a
Macintosh file system. Then you can make a NeXT-format disk out of it.
carl
>I know for a fact that the HIGH Speed card works wonderfully in a IIGS as I
>have one in mine.
Thanks, now to see if the guy has one left, and if I can afford it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On March 27, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
> > let this be a warning to all to stay clear of him as he had more then
> > ample time to have squared this deal with me or return my money to me.
>
> Sorry to hear that. I hope nothing bad has happened to him. Just for the
> record, I had a successful transaction with Mr. Worley last summer. My item
> was exactly as described, well packed, and shipped promptly.
I've never done business with him, but I will say that I'd been
exchanging email with him around the end of December...he was going to
get me an OS/2 distribution that I'd been looking for. His emails
stopped abruptly in mid-conversation, and I've seen nothing from him
since, in any forum. I hope he's ok. I'm also very sorry to hear
that Curt's deal went south. :-(
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant,
St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar
I happen to use MS QB4.5/dos at work for test systems. This version
supports all the high level structures and variable scopes that HLL like
Pascal or C would. It's NOT a weak light weight BASIC. It does produce
fast, low ram load executeables (.exe) for dos environments and has
proven very robust and easy to use.
My beef with BASIC is especially the older versions with GOTO laden
code can easily be a bowl of long pasta to decode. However, I've seen
people do same with Fortran, ALGOL, Pascal and even C.
Allison
{my native language is ASM.}
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))
>Unfortunately, the generalized tendency to "beat up" BASIC as a language
for
>micros, back in the late '70's and '80's, by those promoting the newer
>"block-structured" languages, makes people look askance at work done in
BASIC.
>I had a partner who was quite adept at BASIC programming and put together a
>very functional mail order/inventory control/accounts-receivable/payable
>package in about a week. Within a second week, consisting of probably five
>visits in seven days, he got it working very well in-situ, and our customer
>liked it so well, that he bought two computers (which we were pressed to
>provide, not being in the retail businsess) just to support his then
growing
>business.
>
>I've found basic to be a handy tool, and, though it doesn't easily support
>programming in the large, it does allow getting things done here and now.
It
>has lots of features, most of which I haven't ever been pressed to use, and
>can do anything your computer can support, up to a point. If only I had a
>dime for each time I used it to do a quick calculation ...
>
>Dick
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Hellige" <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:28 AM
>Subject: Re: Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))
>
>
>> >You can buy the latest incarnation of Turbo BASIC, called Power
>> >Basic. It's pretty neat.
>>
>> I've been using PowerBasic since '90 or so and really like
>> it. The later versions include things that the first version, which
>> is what I have, did not. I've written fairly complex
>> database/accounting packages with it and those packages were roughly
>> 1/7 the size of a similar package written using the application
>> generator in Foxbase or similar.
>>
>> Jeff
>> --
>> Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
>> http://www.cchaven.com
>> http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
>>
>>
>
>
On March 27, Christopher Smith wrote:
> > I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what it was :)
>
> > What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Is there a
> > version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a
>
> This is the TurboChannel Alpha, right? Last I heard, NetBSD
> didn't support TurboChannel -- or was that Linux, but it's been
> a while.
NetBSD has supported turbochannel on alpha and pmax since the dawn
of time. I've run it on many 3000-series machines...it will give you
no trouble.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant,
St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar
> From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
> Well, this would be a neat professional ZX81 setup - just you miss the
> whole fun of getting the real minimalistic ZX81. One _can_ do usefull
> stuff with just one or two KBytes of RAM. one has a real lot of fun
> by just playing around with this little plasic box in front of an old
> TV set.
Hans, I agree with you 100 percent. This is the purpose the ZX81 was
designed for: teaching people how to have fun getting the most out of the
least!
> I'd suggest an out of the box ZX81 (or Timex 1000) to start with, and
> realy trying to play with only one K ... next step could be the internal
> expansion to whooping TWO K - and oh boy, programmers dreams will come
> thru.
Yeah, I remember the first time I could write a BASIC program with more
than 40 lines of code -- wow!
> I still think tha'ts the most fun, haggling with tight resources).
Also true for me. It's still a thrill to go over a machine code or
assembly language program and be able to trim out 20 bytes!
> A professional system, like Glen tells is quite nice, but you need
> also some more knowledge about the pitfalls of a ZX. Start of with
> the fun of a simple system, and if you're a late victim of the ZX
> infection, then you'll soon expand into the ZX96 dimension.
I think this is very good advice.
> (Not a ZX fan, but I realy like to dig out a ZX80 or 81 from time to
> time just to play around with the most minimalistic _full_ system ever)
This is the best description of the ZX81 I've ever encountered!
Keep on ZXin'!
Glen
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A while back someone was looking for information from this manual? I
opened a new box while at the warehouse today and took out the manual
and have it at home now. If you still need some info from it let me
know.
Could anyone please inform me of the following item:
Item: Data Processing Set, military specs
Model :1666B
Military Designation: AN/UYK64(V)2
Manufacturer: ROLM
Measurement: 2 x 3 ft
Weight: 120 lbs
RGDS/ YC
> pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
>
>Subject: DEC 3000-600
>
>framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU.
Is the
>RZ26 a 1G drive? And how clock speed is the proc?
RZ26 is indeed 1GB SCSI.
The DEC 3000-600 is a 175MHz EV4.
Memory from 32MB to 512MB.
Turbochannel. 114 specint 92.
>What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux...
Does Linux support TURBOchannel?
I presume NetBSD does ... but I know
at least one of the free OSes does not.
> Is there a
>version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work?
OpenVMS Alpha, yes from V1.5-1H1
onwards (i.e. almost any version you
happen to have).
Ultrix never ran on these birds.
Digital Unix (now known as Tru64
but probably in the middle of another
name transition) did support them
but I have a feeling that support
was dropped in the most recent version.
And in this case they actually pulled
the support code, so it absolutely
will not work.
>Also, I didn't get a keyboard with
>it and didn't see one there. What
>kind of keyboard does it use, and can I
>use a serial terminal instead?
I guess a PC keyboard (LK451 or such???)
but I don't have any docs to hand. Almost
all of these boxes will work with a serial
console ... plug in and type
set console serial
(otherwise it switches to the
graphical console partway through
the boot and if all you have is
serial yo uthink it's died on you!!)
Antonio
VCF Gazette
Volume 1, Issue 1
A Newsletter for the Vintage Computer Festival
March 13, 2002
Hello Vintage Computer Fans! Welcome to the first issue of what
is guaranteed to be an irregularly published newsletter to keep
you up to date on the latest events and happenings of the Vintage
Computer Festival.
There is a lot going on this year. We have two major events, VCF
Europa 3.0 and VCF 5.0, and an Open House at our Oakland, California,
facility.
VCF Europa 3.0
--------------
The third annual Vintage Computer Festival Europa is being held
April 27th and 28th in Munich, Germany. If you have a chance to be in
Munich during the last weekend of April, you should certainly attend.
You'll get a taste of the vibrant computer industry and the varied
computers that were produced in Europe from over ten years ago and
beyond.
For more information on VCF Europa 3.0, visit:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/europa/
--or--
http://www.vcfe.de/
VCF 5.0
-------
As you may well be aware, VCF 5.0, originally scheduled for
September 15th and 16th, was cancelled due to the tragic events that
occured on September 11, 2001. The necessity for the cancellation
slowly became evident as events transpired over the course of the
three days following September 11th. At least three speakers were not
going to be able to attend due to the grounding of all U.S. air
traffic. It was uncertain whether more attacks would come.
In hindsight, cancelling VCF 5.0 was still the right decision to make,
as it was uncertain whether anyone would even want to come to such an
event in the wake of the tragedy. A statement was posted to the VCF
5.0 website on Thursday, September 13, informing of the cancellation,
and a message was sent to the VCF mailing list. We appreciate the
understanding we received.
Now that things have thankfully returned to normal for the most part,
it is time to reschedule VCF 5.0 for 2002. Planning is underway to
hold VCF 5.0 sometime in September. Negotiations are underway for
securing a venue in Santa Clara (our first choice) or San Jose (our
backup choice).
VCF 5.0 will be more exciting than ever this year. We plan to offer
more great speakers and many excellent exhibits, but we also plan to
expand attendee participation by adding retro-programming contests
and other events. Of course we will still have the Nerd Trivia
Challenge to vex even the most ardent vintage computing nerd. More
details to come!
VCF 5.0 will also be part of a larger smorgasbord of events which is
tentatively being dubbed "GeekWeek". The VCF will partner with the
California Extreme Classic Arcade Show, the Xtreme Games Developers
Conference, the first San Francisco International Conference of
Hackers, an Atari 30-Year Anniversary Party, and several other
accompanying events including LANtrocity and Super Auctions (coin-
operated amusement auctions). This exciting combination of events
will become a yearly mecca for geeks from all over the world to
come together and celebrate the joys of geekdom!
Information for each event can be found at the following URLs:
Vintage Computer Festival 5.0
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/
California Extreme
http://www.caextreme.org/
Xtreme Games Developers Conference
http://www.xgdc.com/
San Francisco International Conference of Hackers
http://www.gism.net/sfich/
Atari 30-Year Anniversary Party (Atari Historical Society)
http://www.atari-history.com/
LANtrocity
http://www.lantrocity.com/
Super Auctions
http://www.superauctions.com/
VCF East 2.0
------------
Last year's first Vintage Computer Festival East, held in Marlborough,
Massachusetts, in July of 2001, was every bit as fun and exciting as
the main VCF. Five speakers, including Eldon Hall, designer of the
Apollo Guidance Computer, and eleven exhibitors, including the Retro-
Computing Society of Rhode Island who brought along a PDP-12 running
Spacewar!, provided a vintage computing retrospective for over 80
attendees.
The next VCF East is being planned for Spring of 2003. We will begin
booking speakers, exhibits and vendors in the fall of this year.
VCF Open House at the ACCRC
---------------------------
As of Fall of 2001, the Vintage Computer Festival Archive has found
a happy new home at the Alameda County Computer Resource Center. The
ACCRC is an organization that accepts donations of old computers and
electronics, refurbishes the working computers to be donated back to
schools and charities, and recycles the rest. Nothing at the ACCRC
is thrown out. Everything gets recycled! ACCRC computers are
located on every continent on Earth including Antarctica.
The VCF is busily sorting, organizing and cataloguing the VCF Archive
at the ACCRC. Shelving is being assembled, walls are being built,
and floors are being swept in preparation for the first VCF Open
House.
The VCF and the ACCRC will welcome the general public to come in and
see how we operate. There will be plenty of activities, tasty things
to munch on, and tours of the VCF Archive and the ACCRC operations
and pet programs (including the ACCRC Beowulf Cluster and KOOX internet
radio station).
The VCF is also in the process of setting up a computer museum at the
ACCRC and building facilities for our documentation and software
archive library so that it can finally be offered for use by the
general public. We're hoping to finish the remodeling effort within
a few weeks but we're still searching for needed materials. We'd like
to find recycled computer flooring to improve the floor in the area
where we are setting up the library. Might you know of where we can
get some? If so, please let us know by sending an e-mail message to
<vcf(a)vintage.org>. Any flooring donated will qualify as a tax
deductible charitable donation to the ACCRC.
Once we have the archive organized and the library completed, we'll
announce the dates for what will become the first annual VCF Open
House. We're very excited at the prospect of finally having a public
venue to share the VCF Archive on a year-round basis.
For more information on the Alameda County Computer Resource Center,
please visit their website:
http://www.accrc.org/
To listen to KOOX internet radio, visit their Screaming Streaming
Audio website:
http://www.koox.net/
If you have computer flooring to donate, or know of someone who does,
please contact us at <vcf(a)vintage.org>.
VCF on MediaTelevision
----------------------
MediaTelevision, a Canadian program that "looks inside and behind the
media process", will be airing this week a segment that they produced
on the VCF. Watch for it on a station that airs MediaTelevision's
program.
For information regarding MediaTelevision's segment on the VCF, visit:
http://www.mediatv.net/
VintageTech
-----------
The Vintage Computer Festival is proud to announce a new off-shoot for
business and industry. VintageTech provides services such as patent
litigation support and prior art searches, consulting and props for
the film and photography industry, data and media conversion, vintage
computer appraisals and sales brokering, and general computer history
consulting.
To inquire about VintageTech services or for more information, visit
VintageTech today:
http://wwww.vintagetech.com/
Classic Tech Eletter
--------------------
Michael Nadeau, long-time computer industry journalist and former
editor of Byte magazine, has launched a new newsletter that caters to
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com
> I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what it was :)
> What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Is there a
> version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a
This is the TurboChannel Alpha, right? Last I heard, NetBSD
didn't support TurboChannel -- or was that Linux, but it's been
a while.
Ultrix? No, but you can run Digital Unix on it, or OSF/1, or
whatever its name is today.
Of course, I could be mistaken, but I believe VMS is supposed to
run very well on these. In fact, if I had one, that's what I'd do.
> keyboard with
> it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it
> use, and can I
> use a serial terminal instead?
It will either be a "normal" peesee keyboard plug, (wouldn't use
anything but a real DEC keyboard, though), or it will be a "normal"
DEC keyboard (like for the vt320, etc). Being an Alpha, it's more
likely the former, but that's an early Alpha, so check the shape of
the plug before you plug the keyboard in ;)
... and of course you can use a serial terminal. (Might, or might
not require removing the framebuffer -- it did on some older VAXen.)
Try just plugging the terminal into what looks like the first serial
port, and you'll probably be pleasantly surprised.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Does have any info on this printer? It looks like this <http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/bargain-products/bargain-product-info.ASP?…>.
I picked one up today. This one is marked "Terminal Printer" and model MH-4015+ but the FFC ID number says that it's made by Shinwa and it lappears to be the same as the CPB-136. It's a dot matrix printer and it has SIX printheads in it!
Joe
Yes, If you use a terminal like VT330, 340or later there is
what VMS calls multisessions. Some fo the LAT servers
also support this with more common VT220s or VT320s.
I was added late in VMS 4.mumble and later versions.
This is not decwindows which is GUI based.
What multisession allows is several virtual terminals over several
virtual circuits using one terminal and physical circuit. I use it alot.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com>
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: More VMS
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Alan Pearson wrote:
>
>> As an aside to the current VMS discussion, does anyone know
>> of an equivalent to the Unix "su -" command for VMS?
>
>> At the moment I'm using an ST running UNITERM hooked up to a
>> 3100/30's console port so I'm stuck with just the one login session
>> at a time - occasionally I'd like to be able to flip over to SYSTEM
>> without having to mess about with logging out of AL and into SYSTEM
>> and back :-) Any ideas?
>
> Is there a "screen" app for VMS? Screen allows you to use "virtual
>screens" - that is have several sessions going on one terminal. You
>page through them by hotkey.
>
> Doc
>
>
