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Computers Manufactured in 1986^H^H56

by blacklord＠telstra.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> Date: Thursday, April 4, 2002 5:04 am Subject: Re: Computers Manufactured in 1986^H^H56 > Stan Barr wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > jpero(a)sympatico.ca said: > > > > > > I suppose to commemorate my birth, I'll need to get an S- > 100 box Ok, so what would I need for 1965 ? cheers, Lance ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

24 years

CP/M and Imsai

by caprio＠dcms.com

Thanks to all for you comments on the S-100 and Imsai. The reason I got intersted in this was back in the late 70's I worked for an OEM and we rolled out data Entry/Retrieval system on Datapoint, Then moved to the Imsai, and then the Intel SBC 8086 running RMX/86. This was my first programming job. Everything was written in assembler and progressed to PL/I then finally forth. I loved this job. Back then programmers appreciated tight code and knew how to save a few bytes of code. It was amazing what we did with the Imsai. I think we had 30+ serial connections to data entry terminals with keypunch operators banging away at 100 WPM! The terminals were also used for data base retrieval over a dedicated line connected to our mainframe, a Xerox Sigma 9. Our mainframe application was written in assembler as welll (MetaSymbol). I also ported a few 8080/z80 applications to 8086. When I left the company ten years later we had piles of Imsai's on pallets and didn't know what to do with them. I bet they ended up in a landfill somewhere! Wish I had just a pallet of them today! It's been twenty years since I worked on the Imsai. Most of my knowledge on these and other S-100 systems is burried in my brian somewhere problem is I can't seem to fetch it :^) At any rate I'm up for the challange and am looking forward to putting my Imsai system together. Any ex employee's of Science Dynamics (Torrance, Ca) out there? Jeff, Neil, Ralph, Dave, and Less are you there? and then

24 years

The Future End of Classic Computing

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Bryan Pope > > And thusly Dan Wright spake: > > > > Tony Duell said: > > > > > > And as for restricting knowledge that could be used to commit crimes, > > > well, you'd better remove the brains of most of the population right > now... > > > > Has everyone read _1984_? I just finished it and it's quite good ;) > anyway, > > very instructive, and frightening, on this point... > > > > Ooooh.... And what about Farenheit 451?! This was required reading at my > high school. Ray Bradbury was just honored with some award a few days > ago. > > Cheers, > > Bryan > Another very excellent book, that I read (what feels like) ages ago... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years

"When programming is outlawed, only outlaws will program"

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Doc wrote: > > > You may as well put Fred in jail for Xenocopy, in fact ;) > > They probably will, very soon. :( > > Did John Draper write "Easy Writer" WHILE he was in jail? Hmmm... He stayed with my family during a 3-day stop in September 1978... I gave him a 23-channel CB radio to ease the trip out, and he gave me a copy of a Nektar album (it wasn't "Remember the Future"). White and olive drab VW Microbus. >From what I've pieced together, EasyWriter must have gotten started when he got back to the Left Coast. He *might* have started formulating the ideas while in Harrisburg (Harrisville?) State Prison. We corresponded for a while before he went in; I was an early user on WRBBS (Ward and Randy's BBS), and if it wasn't that BBS, it might have been The Well or one of the other Kalifornia BBSs... I contacted Adam Osborne, and asked if he could use his clout to help John out. His reply was that while he didn't necessarily accept the Government's version of what happened, that John was indeed in deep doodoo and anyone that tried to help would get sh*t on their shoes. Now John's doing fine, tho work comes to him slowly, and poor Adam Osborne is slowly dying in a village in India, from Parkinson's Disease. BTW, I'm told that one of Adam's expressed wishes is that he be left to go in peace... Let's all thank him for his efforts and achievements, and wish him a Happy Journey into the hereafter. And please don't take that the wrong way. He was right- my brief association with John led to my departure from my position at the University where I'd hoped to get on full-time... but I bear absolutely no grudge for that. The system just plain sucks. -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixsnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

Computers Manufactured in 1986

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: blacklord [mailto:blacklord@telstra.com] > But the Miggy had more & in better quality :-) (And they're > still being > written for too.....) For a 1000 -- are you sure? :) I have a much easier time finding software for my 520ST. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years

Seeking Old Wirth-Jensen Pascal Book

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote: > > > > PASCAL User Manual and Report > > Authors: Jensen & Wirth > > Pub: Springer-Verlag > > bookfinder.com throws up multiple copies.... Cool... do you think I can trade some S-100 boards for one? What? Bookfinder.com won't do ClassicCmp trades? :( -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixsnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

The Future End of Classic Computing

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Dan Wright > > > Tony Duell said: > > > > And as for restricting knowledge that could be used to commit crimes, > > well, you'd better remove the brains of most of the population right > now... > > Has everyone read _1984_? I just finished it and it's quite good ;) > anyway, > very instructive, and frightening, on this point... > > - Dan Wright > Read that ages ago. Excellent book.... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years

DEC swap meet?(RE: Off Topic? PDP 11 1134/1145's)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Brian Hechinger > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:02:47AM -0500, Lord Isildur wrote: > > > > PA would definitely be a plus to me. If its an hour or two drive, i > would > > have a high chance of getting there, but if its more than that i > probably > > wouldnt. > > what halfway not-shitty town east of you is withing reason? pick > something, > let's see if it's an ok place to meet. > > close to pittsburg means we might convince Rob S. to stop out as well, but > damn pittsburg is a haul from here. > > -brian > -- Personally, I'd probably make a weekend of it, or something, if I can... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years

Computers Manufactured in 1986^H^H56"

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> PDP-8e of various forms, Cincinattai Millichron CM2000/2100/2200 to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cincinnati Milacron ;) -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixsnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

Seeking Old Wirth-Jensen Pascal Book

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

Good Morning... I used to have a copy of: PASCAL User Manual and Report Authors: Jensen & Wirth Pub: Springer-Verlag It had a silver cover with red & black printing. I loaned it out, it never came back. If anyone has a copy they'd part with, or finds one, please contact me. Thanks, -doug quebbeman -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixsnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

Computers Manufactured in 1986^H^H56

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >> My birth-year is 1972, in that era what typical 'puter small enough >> to fit on desk or on floor (tower) and easy to ship? > >PDP-8/M? Some early PDP-11 (/05?) Too early for the i4004. I do have 4004 was there, and the 8008 was just about there (sept 82 intro). PDP-8e of various forms, Cincinattai Millichron CM2000/2100/2200 to name an oddball. Allison

24 years

PCB vs perfboard construction economics (was Re: "New" PDP-8)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >> I like the PDP-8 but am unhappy that a 12/24 cpu never hit the >> monolithic chip market. > >That would have been fun. > >> Well I don't but remember with out the proper I/O a pdp-8 is NO FUN. Yes, and the big highlight of the PDP-8 (omnibus) was the relative ease of doing one off IO. It was truly easy to WW a quad card to do most anything. Allison

24 years

"New" PDP-8

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >The EPROMs themselves are not worth recycling (from the standpoint that >they are more valuable with DM firmware than as ordinary blanks). The >contents might be worth archving (not that they aren't already). I was.... SNIP>>> I wasn't suggesting they had significant value but did point out they were at least removeable and therefor usable. >The UARTs are 6402s, right? Not an uncommon chip outside of the Wintel >world. Still available in quantity, AFAIK. Correct but, if your building it's nice to not have to buy if you have! >Would the 6121 have any application outside of a DECmate? It's part of >the wierd console emulation on the DM, isn't it? It's the IO port device (decode and register control). It's not quite standard PDP-8 but it is generally useful. >> The DMIII it will be the 6120 and maybe a 6121 plus 2882 and the eproms, >> though I'm less sure as it's been a long time since I've had to open one. > >What's the 2882 do? UART. The DMIII had D7201 {intel 8274} dual USARTs, not common but useful as it's nearly identical to the Z80 SIO but, intended for 8080/8085/8088/8086 style busses. Allison

24 years

Computers Manufactured in 1986

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > >DECmate? I think the DM-III(+) was sold until 1994. I'd have to look up >what model was contemporary to 1986; I'd guess the DECmate-II. DMII was maybe 83ish. >The question is, though, is this thread about computers you could >walk down the street and _buy_ in 1986, or ones that were _introduced_ >in 1986? The second is a much smaller list, naturally. That would generally exclude much with 386 or higher. '86 was the Z100 series, last of the CP/M-80 machines like Kaypros and Compupro S100 crates. Microvax-I was there and VAXMATE was just around the corner (integrated 286 boxen). It was also a point on the broad 286 peak. The Workstation wars were warming up around then as well, this would lead to Sun, Apollo, DECstations{mips} and later VAXstations. Biggest impression of '86, WYSIWYG printing and Graphical screens making a big surge. Allison

24 years

OT: hp doc request

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hey folks...I know there are a lot of HP calc people here; a friend of mine is looking for an HP48G manual, the "HP 48G Series Advanced User's Reference Manual"...no luck with either HP or eBay; does anyone have a copy of this that they might wanna turn loose of, or maybe do some scanning from? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

24 years

FA another Tek 31 brochure also 909 and 911

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2012892631> Check his other auctions too. There's also articles about the Tek 909 and 911 calcualtors. Joe

24 years

FA Tektronix 21/31 calculator brochure

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

See <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2012891096>

24 years

FA GE analog computer kit manual 1961!!!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

See <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2014121210>

24 years

Televideo 950 terminal with manual FA

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

See <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2013594433>

24 years

morrow CPM books FA

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

See <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2012947569>

24 years

WTT: HP9000/700 system

by thomas＠tstrathmann.de

Hi, I have a HP 9000/700, 50 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 1.x GB SCSI disk. Original HP keyboard and mouse included plus an HP 99784A 19'' monitor. Everything is in good working condition and so far I have had no problems with this system. HP-UX 10.20 is installed, I'll include media if needed (you know, the license is bound to the hardware). I wand to trade for something, dunno, make an offer. You would have to fetch it from northern Germany or send a freight forwarder. Thomas -- Thomas S. Strathmann http://pdp7.org If God had intended Man to Smoke, He would have set him on Fire.

24 years

Fw: Off Topic? PDP 11 1134/1145's

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "maximum entropy" <entropy(a)tappedin.com> To: <wonko(a)arkham.ws> Cc: <fordluvr(a)juno.com>; <wonko(a)arkham.ws>; <port-vax(a)netbsd.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Off Topic? PDP 11 1134/1145's > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:28:45 -0500 > >From: Brian Hechinger <wonko(a)arkham.ws> > > > >On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 08:46:25PM -0800, joseph p bennardo wrote: > > > >> I can't say why they want them destroyed, but if you knew the company > >> you'd understnad a bit better. > > > >i probably still wouldn't understand. there is no good reason that i know of. > > I did get an almost reasonable justification for this sort of demented > behavior once. Some computer parts are considered hazardous waste. > If I take a machine from some company, then dump it for whatever > reason, there's a possibility (however remote) of it being traced back > to that company (via serial numbers or whatever). They could then > potentially be held liable for the illegal dumping. Of course, it > would be simple enough to provide a bill of sale for $0.01, or some > other documentation of the transfer of ownership. But I did lose out > on one deal where that was seen as just too much hassle for the > beaurocrats involved. When I aquired my VAX 6310 I signed a paper absolving them of all responsibility for the beast. (Didn't sign one for the TU81+...) At first I didn't want to sign, but after a few seconds of thinking about it I couldn't come up with a plasuable reason not to, so I did. Got a copy for my records though, it should be stuffed inside her somewhere. Bob > -- > entropy -- it's not just a good idea, it's the second law.

24 years

The Future End of Classic Computing

by mythtech＠mac.com

>You've misinterpreted my meaning. I was responding to a poster who >suggested that the intent underlying the development of a >product was relevant to the appropriateness of its use. That I disagree >with this position does not mean, as you have assumed, that >I automatically adopt the other extreme -- that because there is an >inappropriate use for a product, it cannot be used at all. Your >attempt at a false dichotomy is rather transparent. I would HOPE it was transparent... it was meant as a tongue in cheek response. I didn't honestly think you believed in the extreme logical end to the concept. Sorry, I thought it would be understood as a goof when I asked for your car. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years

ibm thinkpad parts

by clillie1＠socal.rr.com

call for your ibm think pad system boards 949-646-2181 <www.solidtechnology.net> all ibm think pad parts in stock

24 years

Apple IIe card

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I've got a card out of an Apple IIe that has a bunch of 7400 chips on it, a 4-switch dip switch, a 26pin header, and an EPROM with a label that says "GPC" on it. The board also has "GPC" and "519" silk-screened on the comonent side and "Made in Taiwan R.O.C." on the solder side. Google doesnt seem to reveal anything useful. Any ideas what this is?

24 years

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