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"Re: Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New""

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> At 07:19 PM 4/3/02 +0000, you wrote: > >Yes, I did know there's second bi-pin bulb held in place of red > >holder in Maglite's end cap hidden under that spring. > >Cheers, > >Wizard > > Hmmm; I'm another magliter, especially the solitaire (1AAA) model. > They're great for looking in dark, recessed spots in old computers :-). I got my Solitaire free by answering a survey from ADP back when I was self-employed. I explained I didn't have a staff, but the caller said that didn't mind. I find the bulbs only lose lifespan when you drop the flashlight a time or two.. they simply aren't shock-resistant. -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

The Future End of Classic Computing

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > > DOWN WITH FRED! EVIL PURVEYOR OF ILLEGAL TOOLS OF CRIME!!! FIE! FIE! > > > > Fire up the molten iron vats! > > Hmm Tar and Feathers must have gone out of style. :) And it's pretty hard to run someone out of town on a rail when hardly anyone knows how to make s split-rail fence anymore... ...and Grampa forgot to show me... <sniff!> -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Strange idea in VAX

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>But does OpenVMS/vax support USB? No but since you're doing a PCI driver, a USB driver should be a breeze. Having a Qbus framebuffer and a USB keyboard and mouse would be fun :-) Now that I look I don't see any PCI widgets for the VAX 7000/10000 or the DEC 7000/10000. So I think PCI and TRUBOchannel are pipe-dreams. Pity, they would have been the easiest ways to get a framebuffer. Now if you get a TurboLaser (AlphaServer 8200/8400) they *do* have PCI expansion available, so you could do PCI graphics there. Possibly even multiple graphics heads :-) Antonio

24 years

CP/M and Imsai

by caprio＠dcms.com

>On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Don Caprio wrote: > >> Any ex employee's of Science Dynamics (Torrance, Ca) out there? Jeff, Neil, >> Ralph, Dave, and Less are you there? > >I know of a Science Dynamics in New Jersey that does inmate telephone >systems. Is this a genuine coincidence or is it possibly the same >company? > >http://www.scidyn.com/ I started working for Science Dynamics in 1972. The company had been around for about five years when I joined. After I left in 81 the company was bought by McDonald Douglas (I think). McDonald Douglas had it for a while ran it into the ground and then it was repurchased by the Ex-CEO. Don't know what happened to it after that. > Science Dynamics Corporation (SciDyn) has been developing and delivering > technologically advanced telecommunication solutions for years. The name > SciDyn may be new to you, but weve been in business now for 25 years. Our > solutions are installed in 18 countries around the world and currently > process more than 250 million minutes per month. I'm sure the common names are just a coincidence.

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When programming is outlawed, only outlaws will program

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Doc wrote: > > > > You may as well put Fred in jail for Xenocopy, in fact ;) > > > They probably will, very soon. :( > > > > Did John Draper write "Easy Writer" WHILE he was in jail? > > Now, that's the story he told me ... or well, at least > what my memory tells me he said. I'm geting old. Here's an early reference, from the comments of the source code to FIG-FORTH 1.1 dated 17-September-1979, one year after I met him on exit from Harrisville: ; APPLE FORTH BY CapN' SOFTWARE $40.00 ; EASYWRITER (word processor for APPLE ; by CapN' SOFTWARE) $100.00 So it appears it was an Apple II package before it was an IBM package. -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

Computers Manufactured in 1986

by Huw.Davies＠kerberos.davies.net.au

At 12:23 PM 2/04/2002 -0600, Christopher Smith wrote: >A VAX-11/780 (...but what would I run on it? It would have to be >RSTS/E, since VMS 1.0 hadn't been released, probably.) I thought that VMS was ready and shipped with all VAX-11/780s. We ran VMS on the VAX that was shipped to La Trobe University in either late 1979 or very early 1980. From dim memory, it was running V1.5. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"

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Computers Manufactured in 1986

by torquil＠rockbridge.net

What are some good old computers manufactured in 1986?

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Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New" PDP-8))

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

As someone that runs a P166 on an ASUS board in a higher end case that can hold and run 3 RX56s{5.25" full height} and not melt, I would say better gives better. FYI: it's a 24/7 box that I rely on to work and it does quite well with NT4. Good PCs can be built but, you do have to work at it. Allison

24 years

IBM 3192s

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I've got a pair of them sitting here, looking for a home. They seem to power up, but don't display anything. Just looking for enough to buy me a lunch + shipping. Also have for dispersal: StorageTek 2920 9-track PERTEC interface tape drive, might need a new head, otherwise completely functional. $5 + shipping -- It's 150lbs and rackmount - about 24"Hx18"Wx12"D If no one wants it, it'll end up as scrap. UPS/FedEx/USPS won't ship this I'm sure. Mac Quadra 610, Mac IIci, Quadra 700. $10ea OBO. Apple //e. One has Disk ][ interface + 1 drive + 64k RAM expansion card, one has Duodisk interface and drive. I'm willing to give out as much of these as wanted. $5 each, what I paid for it, + shipping. Thanks for supporting your local poor college student. -- Pat

24 years

CP/M and Imsai

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>I made a quick mirror of it a couple of years ago when it looked like it >might vanish. Since Gaby is doing such a good job, I necer saw fit to >keep the mirror at retroarchive.org updated. Tim was kind enough at that time to send me his master for that site on Cdrom... faster than DSL. ;) Gaby is doing a great job. Allison

24 years

DEC part aniti-static matt?

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hello Listers, Awhile back I scrapped/recycled/trashed an R400X DSSI expansion chassis. Between the steel back cover a back of the backplane, I found a plastic sheet, part number 7438980-01 rev. c01g?r0? The question marks follow guesses on smeared digits.... My question is this: Could this succesfully be used as an anti-static work surface? It doesn't seem to attract lint like I would expect, which makes me wonder. Maybe it was simply to protect the backplane from shorting? Would I be better off using a sheet of cardboard? It would be nice to have something to lay cards on while sorting/re-assembling/etc. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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The Future End of Classic Computing

by mythtech＠mac.com

>(greedy self interest note: anybody know how I can keep a > copy of the MR trailer on my PC for repeated viewing?) Rumor has it (haven't gotten around to trying, as most trailers suck anyway), if it is streamed with QuickTime, and you have the QuickTime 4.0 or earlier player, you can bypass their anti-save ability. Also, I know a number of the non savable streams become saveable in QuickTime 5.0 IF it is registered as a Pro version. Humm... better send Apple's QT team to jail, sounds like they are releasing software that can bypass copy protection. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New""

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > > PCB boards, cheap dykes of various sizes. I used to have > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > This one was just *too* good to let go past :-) As you might expect, this requires a lot of social engineering... ;)

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Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New" PDP-8))

by blacklord＠telstra.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas H. Quebbeman" <dquebbeman(a)acm.org> Date: Thursday, April 4, 2002 10:25 am Subject: Re: Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New" PDP- 8)) > PCB boards, cheap dykes of various sizes. I used to have ^^^^^^^^^^^ This one was just *too* good to let go past :-) cheers! ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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Anyone know where I can find a FAQ...

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

The MPE news group is quite active. A lot of helpful people participate in that group. The OS documentation is available at docs.hp.com . Hardware related info is harder to come by. Good luck, SteveRob >From: Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: Anyone know where I can find a FAQ... >Date: 03 Apr 2002 16:08:35 -0800 > >Sridhar the POWERful <vance(a)ikickass.org> wrote: > > ...for MPE/iX? > >http://www.3k.com/faq/hpfaqi.html > >The HP3000-L mailing list (gatewayed to newsgroup comp.sys.hp.mpe) is >a good place to ask HP3000-related questions. > >-Frank McConnell _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New" PDP-8))

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > Tony, > > As hard as it may be to envision, I bet _most_ of the subscribers to > > this list do not own tap & die sets. Many probably own only one hammer, > > People here don't have soldering irons, they don't have tap and die sets. > What the heck do they use to repair computers (;-) in case you're wondering). Once upon a time, when I worked as a programmer for an hourly wage, with time-and-half for overtime, and lived rent-free, I was able to acquire a reasonable set of tools, but most of them were for the other hobby, working on my Audi's. But I do have a logic probe, a RatShack-labeled Ungar iron, heating elements up to 43 watts (glows red!), and lots of TTL parts, etc. No scope, no analyzer, nothing esoteric. But a breadboard, a manual wirewrap tool, a few spools of wirewrap, protoboards, some material for making cheap PCB boards, cheap dykes of various sizes. I used to have heat sinks, IC pullers, two rechargeable Wahl irons (well, I still have one). But now I mostly have a salary that grows 1% behind the rate of inflation and a mortgage that consumes most of the cash, with food coming in second. So, debugging hardware ofen involves totems, incense, etc. Or lots and lots of "remove and replace"... ;)

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Anyone know where I can find a FAQ...

by vance＠ikickass.org

...for MPE/iX? Peace... Sridhar

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Anyone know where I can find a FAQ...

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sridhar the POWERful <vance(a)ikickass.org> wrote: > ...for MPE/iX? http://www.3k.com/faq/hpfaqi.html The HP3000-L mailing list (gatewayed to newsgroup comp.sys.hp.mpe) is a good place to ask HP3000-related questions. -Frank McConnell

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Core Memory Interfacing?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Douglas H. Quebbeman <dquebbeman(a)acm.org> >The Hazeltine 2000 is a 1972-era computer terminal. It used core >memory, but did not have a microprocesor, and therefore, no >software. > >So at least the Hazeltine did it in hardware. As did the VT52 and a slew of others. >When you'd turn it back on, it usually lost some bits, but you >would always bring up the last screen that had been displayed, >if someone didn't explicitly clear it. Not the kind of terminal >to use in secure installtions... Later ones had a power on circuit to effectively punch the clear button. Allison

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DSD-440 manual needed

by mranalog＠attbi.com

I really need a copy of the manual for a Data Systems Design DSD-440. If I knew what I was doing I would just ask for the switch and jumper settings, but that's not the case. I would like to get a copy of the entire manual. If someone has the manual scanned already, I can take 2MB email attachments. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog Analogrechner, calculateur analogique, calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar, komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar, kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer. =========================================

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OT: Dell Quality

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> PS: Oh, Your dept who bought up that 25 dells made serious > *mistake*. Only way dept can depend on them running w/ replacement > parts is dell's especially their power supplies and few oddball > boards. PSUs are totally non-standard pinouts. Oh, your dept also > didn't choose AMD and let dell know everybody else wanted > quality but flexible choices in different brands of CPUs instead > of Intel-only. Oh, I pitched MicronPC, but no one here has ever heard of them... But anyway, it's irrelevant. Every machine will be obsolete in three years, and every machine has a three-year next-day- response service contract. When the three years is up, we buy new ones and give the old ones to employees. Oh, and the only thing we've ever had go bad in Dells: * company president drops laptop and kills it * construction administrator packs one in overhead storage on plane and crushes screen * Western Digital Hard Drive failed in a new Dimension * Sony tape library jammed and replaced with another Sony * Seagate SCSI drive in PowerEdge Server RAID 5 array *will* fail * user killed mouse and lied, Dell replaced anyway * sysadmin ordered white keyboard for black computer, asked for swap, Dell sent back keyboard free And while Micron's would be nice, I'll do *anything* to avoid buying Hewcom Pacqward... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New" PDP-8))

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> -> I assume everyone knows what casting flash is... these screws > -> have casting flash... > > Look closely. It is not casting flash. Screws aren't cast. > As mentioned in an earlier post, the heads and threads are > made by pressing (deformation) of a rod. > > When the form dies wear, are improperly secured, or are misaligned, > the result is "extruded squish", not "casting flash". <insert Ewok worship sound emoticon here> I stand corrected. -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Computers Manufactured in 1986

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 2, Christopher Smith wrote: > > What wonderful machines these are. The first ones, though, shipped > > with 10MB drives, not 40MB, and it was SYSVR2, not 3. > > I don't doubt the 10M disk, but I've never seen anything below 3.0 for it. > > I have 3.5 on mine, with a 3.0 dev kit. That's not the UNIX SysV "release" number, that's the UnixPC 7300 OS version number...like Solaris2.x is SysVR4, but there's version 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, etc. The UnixPC 7300/3B1 OS base is definitely SysVR2. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly, St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar

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some what OT: FW: Adios, Internet Radio

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

More US Government running amok! Joe >Subject: Adios, Internet Radio > > >========================================================= >-------- ENEWS AND VIEWS -------- >========================================================= >Delivering breaking news, as well as analysis and >commentary, from eWEEK.com > >April 3, 2002 // Volume 2, Issue 41 > >========================================================= >In This Edition >========================================================= >--OUR TAKE >Adios, Internet Radio > >========================================================= >Our Take >========================================================= >ADIOS, INTERNET RADIO > >-- By Chris Gonsalves -- > >I'm a fan of Stardog, personally. Maybe you like CelticGrove >or BlueCityJazz. Doesn't matter. In a few weeks, listening >to music on Internet radio will be dead as a mackerel. > >Shame really. The Internet radio business has been growing >at something like 100 percent annually and is thriving in >genres underrepresented on FM stations, such as classical, >blues, jazz and gospel. Doesn't matter. The government, >acting once again in the special interest of the music >industry, is about to crush the idea. > >In the latest example of groundless regulation and greed >interfering with free commerce, the U.S. Copyright Office is >considering a proposal that would force Internet radio >stations to pay exorbitant royalties to record companies and >performers, something their over-the-air counterparts are >not required to do. > >Where AM and FM radio stations pay a small fee to music >composers, Internet radio stations are facing fees of up to >14 cents per listener per song. That fee would bankrupt >nearly all of the Web broadcasters operating today, >according to the group saveinternetradio.org. > >Copyright officials have until May 21 to make the call, but >considering that the recommended shakedown came from the >advisory group they created--the Copyright Arbitration >Royalty Panel (CARP for short)--it's clear the rubber stamp >is warmed up and waiting. > >How did we get to this point? Even if you thought Napster >and others of their ilk were the bad guys, how did Internet >radio become to the target of the Harry Fox crowd? It began >in October 1998, when Congress passed the "Digital >Millennium Copyright Act" (DMCA), which gave record >companies the green light to collect royalties when music >was played via "digital media" such as Internet radio. > >It's an interesting departure from a music industry >standpoint. Record companies and performers don't get >royalties from AM and FM radio play because the copyright >folks consider the promotional value of the airplay payment >enough. So why the switch for the Internet? The theory >bought by Congress is that Internet listeners can make >"perfect copies" of the songs being streamed, and those >copies could hurt CD sales. That would be a good argument, >except that, as anyone who listens to Internet Radio knows, >you can't make "perfect copies." You can't easily make >copies at all. And if you can, they are of too low a sound >quality to be useful in creating your own CDs. What you get >sounds pretty much like those cassette tapes you used to >make off the FM radio. Not great. > >Never ones to let facts stand in their way, the solons >assigned to the CARP published their recommended royalty >schedule in late February. As the basis for the outrageous >fee schedule, the CARP report cites a $5 billion deal >between Yahoo! and Broadcast.com. The result was a figure >that would leave most Internet broadcasters, who have >attracted precious little advertising, liable for between >200 and 300 percent of their gross revenues. And, oh, by the >way, the fees are retroactive to October 1998. According to >Internet radio industry figures, a midsize independent >Webcaster with an average audience of 1,000 would owe >$525,600. > >See you later Stardog. It was nice knowing you. > >To e-mail eWEEK Deputy News Editor Chris Gonsalves, >click here: >mailto:chris_gonsalves@ziffdavis.com > >========================================================= >News >========================================================= >1. ADDITIONAL IE/APACHE PROBLEMS SURFACE > >eWEEK Labs' Timothy Dyck last month advised readers to use a >combination of HTTPS and basic authentication to get secure >log-in functionality that works with all browsers and Web >servers. It turns out that this approach won't work all the >time, either. To read the story, click here: >http://eletters1.ziffdavis.com/cgi-bin10/flo?y=ePOu0BzN6x0DUm0gLO0A2 > >------------------------------------------------------------ >2. PAIR OF OFFICE XP BUGS UNCOVERED > >A well-known security researcher has released an advisory >about--and exploit code for--two new unpatched flaws in >portions of Microsoft Corp.'s Office XP application suite. >The two bugs are closely related and, if used in concert, >could enable an attacker to gain complete control over a >vulnerable machine. To read the story, click here: >http://eletters1.ziffdavis.com/cgi-bin10/flo?y=ePOu0BzN6x0DUm0gJj0AS > >------------------------------------------------------------ >3. INTEL TO CUT CHIP PRICING BY 57 PERCENT > >Intel is set to cut prices on its top-performing Pentium 4 >chips by as much as 25 percent this month and up to 57 >percent this spring. 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Core Memory Interfacing?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Loboyko Steve <sloboyko(a)yahoo.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >been mentioned before. Without those, its a heck of a >lot of discretes, and there's no way around it. Too There are pther parts out there. >a wall. I also suspect that because of all of the >unknowns involved regarding the magnetic properties of >the core that you use, the way to go about it is to If you read the article ALL of those parameters are can be tested and defined, before building the whole core plane. >of core is that there are thermistors involved also, >and that core had a very narrow range of temperature >operation. There were even programs designed >specifically to cause "hot spots" in the core in order >to test it (you'd have to know the physical layout of >the core to pull this trick off). Actually when doing that you'd also vary the slice level or the power supply levels to see where the edges are. FYI: I checks my notes and a 64x64 array needs 65 drivers and something like 192 diodes to drive the select lines. Allison

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