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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 8, Sridhar the POWERful wrote: > > > > > Ok, well, "video subsystem", if you like. And isn't a 3AT actually a > > > > > 7030-3AT? Would you consider kicking that GXT1000 my way? What would you > > > > > want for it? > > > > > > > > And if any of those 3ATs need a new home... 8-) > > > > > > Wait just a dad-blamed minute! You already GOT your RS/6k fix for > > > the month! :^P > > > > Yeah but I'm quickly learning that these machines are *cool*. My > > new 3CT with its 66MHz clock is *screaming* fast! These processors > > are *incredibly* clock-efficient. Now I want MORE! 8-) > > MUHAHAHAHA. My evil plan is working. FREAK! -Dave -- Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly, St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar

24 years

Video Card

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 8, Doc wrote: > > > Ok, well, "video subsystem", if you like. And isn't a 3AT actually a > > > 7030-3AT? Would you consider kicking that GXT1000 my way? What would you > > > want for it? > > > > And if any of those 3ATs need a new home... 8-) > > Wait just a dad-blamed minute! You already GOT your RS/6k fix for > the month! :^P > > Doc, who never gets _anything_ cool... Yeah but I'm quickly learning that these machines are *cool*. My new 3CT with its 66MHz clock is *screaming* fast! These processors are *incredibly* clock-efficient. Now I want MORE! 8-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly, St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar

24 years

CD-ROM on RT-11?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Note that under VMS Exchange, you may be limited to just ONE >RT-11 partition, i.e. partition zero. It was over 10 years ago when >I used Exchange under VMS and the RT-11 partition default was >zero. If all you want is a straight copy of an RT-11 disk and you are using OpenVMS, why not use BACKUP/PHYSICAL? I would suggest: $ BACKUP/PHYSICAL device: filename.BCK/SAVE This would save your floppy contents in filename.BCK. Then restore with: $ BACKUP/PHYSICAL filename.BCK/SAVE device: I don't have the necessary h/w anymore to try this, but it should work. I've certainly done something similar with RX50 WPS floppies and I've seen others do the same with DECmate III floppies. The added advantage is that you end up with a block-by-block copy of your floppy that you can save on CD or whatever. Antonio

24 years

should I take RM03's

by henk.gooijen＠12move.nl

Well, thanks everybody for enlighten me. Edward (too!) and I will take together at least 3 RM03's. I checked the PDP11 Peripherals handbook 1978-79 to see what is written about the differences between the RM02 and the RM03. Edward wrote already that the RM02 was for all PDP-11's except the 11/70, and that the RM03 was specifically for the 11/70. Furthermore average seek time and latency are identical, however, the peak data transfer rate for the RM02 is only 806,000 bytes/second, where the RM03 has a peak rate of 1,200,00 bytes per second. That is why DEC saw the RM03 (according to the book) as the high performance storage for database applications. More (difference) info on both drives for completeness: RM02 RM03 rotational speed : 2400 rpm, 3600 rpm max latency : 25.9 msec, 17.3 msec avg latency : 12.5 msec, 8.33 msec max start time : 25 sec, 35 sec <--- not a typo! typical start time : 15 sec, 25 sec <--- not a typo! Thanks again for the good advice. I will grab 'm !! And Tony, "you speak from my heart" as we in Holland say. Nothing can beat the sound, smell and certainly the looks of any blinkenlight PDP, IMHO... - Henk.

24 years

Pro350 with RT-11 and VR241 + Docs

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 7, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >That's the first thing I looked for, too. > > Yeah, since I've already got a Pro380 (that I don't even use) and a RT-11 > V5.x doc set, an Ethernet controller would have been the only real reason > to go for it (though the colour graphics is kind of nice). What's the resolution of the Pro mono & color framebuffers, does anyone remember? I recall really liking the video...the VR241 wasn't a *great* monitor, but it looked pretty good...and those VR201s were razor sharp! (I could look it up, but laziness is the chain the binds my butt so tightly to the chair...) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly, St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar

24 years

Of Mud and Virgins

by lists＠subatomix.com

All right, now that I have your attention, I would like to give a report of my amazing weekend trip to Fort Worth. The most important development of this weekend was my PDP-11 devirginization. Yes, for the year or so that I have been into this hobby, I have rescued or acquired several PDP-11s. Until this weekend, however, I had never applied power to one. Many of these vintage machines are sufficiently different from the PCs I grew up with that learning about them is like rediscovering the computer itself, starting from scratch. There has always been a fear within me of not knowing how to operate one of these machines after applying power to it. Other machines have received no power because I am waiting for my electronics knowledge to develop; these machines will be disassembled, tested part-by-part, and reassembled when that knowledge is sufficient. Despite my inactivity, I have somehow known that I would love exploring these machines once powered. That last prophecy has fulfilled itself! I visited Owen Robertson while in FW, and we powered up his 11/34. He showed me a few things -- how to load RL01 packs, where the power switch was, etc. -- and we proceeded to play with the machine. There are problems with the RSX-11M pack he has, so I loaded up an XXDP+ pack. After printing and reading the help file, I experimented and was able (after some trial and error) to -- drum roll, please -- load UPD2 and create another bootable pack with XXDP+ on it! It would be a minor task for many of you, but it is a major milestone for me. I am now PDP-11 devirginized. Owen and I also scoured a few scrapyards in the DFW area. Highlights of our combined finds: - DEC TS05 - DEC rack spacer panels, rail slides, etc. - DG MPT/100 (looks like a TRS-80 Model III) - DG Nova 3 chassis - Two Sun 4/110 towers. - TRS-80 Model III, diskless, with 16KB RAM (Identical to my first computer except for the extra 12KB :-)) - A Lanier word processor (I believe of the kind Pres. Carter used) - CBM PET 8032 - Three IBM 5150 PCs Eric Dittman was going to accompany us but was called away on business. It's too bad we didn't do this a week sooner. The scrappers had just finished destroying what was a very nice PDP-11/60. I at least found and took the unit numbers from the RK07 and RP0x drive. By the time we were finishing up at the second scrapyard, it was raining heavily and *muddy*. It will be interesting to see what lives through being rained upon. Also, as it turns out, a pallet full of desktop 386 PCs isn't useless after all: you can lay them in puddles and form a walkway to keep yourself dry(er). We referred to the process as 'uninstalling Windows'. -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first.

24 years

need the use of a scanner with sheet feeder (near Seattle)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> "Douglas H. Quebbeman" wrote: > > > > Sheet-fed scanner for most stuff, he does use a hand-scanner > > for bound stuff. Like Eric, I'm pretty sure he does most pages > > as 600dpi line art. I just got doing the same for a section of > > a CDC manual that's in hot demand; then used Kodak Imaging > > to create a multi-page TIF from the individual TIF pages. Then > > print to PDF using Adobe Acrobat 4.05's PDF Writer. Yields a > > 367kb PDF, whereas multipage TIF was 2.1MB. > > Then your TIFFs weren't compressed with the Group 4 2D algorithm, which > is the best around, until we've all got JBIG tools. Either that, or PDF > Writer reduced the resolution during conversion. Well, I scanned the originals as 600dpi line art, instead of gray scale. Lineart generates bitmap files, just two bitplanes. I'd assume that it compresses much more easily since adjacent pixel runs of white are next to each other and chomp down nicely... However... have you checked out the DjVu imaging compression technology? DjVu is a non-propreitary superset of the iterated fractal system imaging compression technology I read about in Byte magazine back in the 1980s. Now that the secret's out of the bag, everyone can have utilize extremely high-compression if you can suffer the slight loss of fidelity to the original (for example, the analysis will find a single ideal letter form for an 'A', and uses that ideal letterform image when reconstructing the document, instead of recording every pixel at every location. For more info on DjVu, just point Google and cut the leash... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

need the use of a scanner with sheet feeder (near Seattle)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > However... have you checked out the DjVu imaging compression > > technology? DjVu is a non-propreitary superset of the iterated fractal > > system imaging compression technology I read about in Byte magazine > > back in the 1980s. Now that the secret's out of the bag, everyone can > > have utilize extremely high-compression if you can suffer the slight > > loss of fidelity to the original (for example, the analysis will find > > a single ideal letter form for an 'A', and uses that ideal letterform > > image when reconstructing the document, instead of recording every > > pixel at every location. > > Sounds like OCR software to me. There any major differences? OCR maps letter forms to text; this is pure compression. Looking at it another way, DjVu condenses any image fed into it into a mathemetical expression that, when evaluated, yields as its result, the image of the original document. So, it's nothing like OCR. If the original image were a page full of little apples, the program will decide which apple is the best one, and when it reconstitutes the original image, will put as many copies of the one apple on the page as the original had. If there are subtle differences between the apples that the eye won't readily see, then the reconstituted image won't have those subtle differences. It goes beyond this too; it separates the text and calls that foreground, and everything that's not text is background. The background is compressed with a different family of wavelets than is used for the foreground. It's worth spending an hour googling for better answers than I could ever hope to provide... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

PS/2 - E

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Schaefer [mailto:rschaefe@gcfn.org] > It's a neat little toy. I came across the PCMCIA controller > card for one a > few weeks ago and ended up finding more about the -e than the > card itself. > IIRC the model number is 9533-- put that in the search and > you should end up > with some good hits. I just found > http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ohland/9533.html in an old msg > to myself. If > it's the one I'm thinking of, it's a good read. Thanks. That was informative. It seems the 387 math-co is "optional," so it's good that I have it. I also think there's some extra RAM in there. (Above the 4M they claim are on the board) Reminds me very much of the intel-based "multia" systems, which are about the same size, and about as well integrated. A related question would be, does anyone know a cheap source of PCMCIA boards? Specifically, to actually use this thing, I'll want an ethernet adaptor (10Mb), and probably some linear flash. Some SRAM that will operate at (is the low voltage 3 or 1.5 on those?) the lower voltage would probably be good too. (where...) Can one still get PCMCIA hard disks that will work in this thing too? I do have a specific and on-topic reason for wanting the flash and SRAM boards. I intend to use the machine as a way of bootstraping a Minix installation for my "Poqet PC," if I can manage it. The Poqet will read linear flash, but not write it, and will read and write SRAM. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years

Video Card

by vance＠ikickass.org

Anyone know where I can get an IBM RS/6000 POWER GXT1000 Model 002 video card? Peace... Sridhar

24 years

Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New" PDP-8))

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 4, 23:29, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I've read about bolt types on Brit bikes a bit. It seems that they had > a variety of things they called Whitworth. Not really. See Tony's post; there are various series that use the same Whitworth thread form (55 degree thread angle, and rounding of crests and troughs) but they have different names. BSW (British Standard Whitworth) is the standard coarse series, analagous to ANC/UNC. BSF (British Standard Fine) is the corresponding fine-pitch series, analagous to ANF/UNF. There are some special-purpose threads you might have come across, such as BSB (British Standard Brass) which is used for finer pitch on soft metals (26 tpi, regardless of diameter). BSP (BS Pipe) is used for some pipe fittings, and is confusing because the sizes refer to the internal diameters of the high-pressure pipes or glands it would be used for (so 1/4" BSP is a little over 1/2" diameter over the threads). To add insult to injury, there are two types: plain, and tapered. Then there are some ME (Model Engineeer) threads which are very fine pitch, in two standard series: 32 tpi, and 40 tpi. A few of these correspond to normal BSW/BSF/BSB threads, but apart from that, they're relatively rare. Rarer still is British Standard Cycle, a fine pitch thread with a 60 degree thread angle, mostly 26 tpi or 32 tpi (1/8" is 40 tpi, though). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

24 years

"rubber" preservation

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> >This reminds me, these acoustic couplers may need some periodic > >maintenance, such as putting some talcum powder on the rubber pieces > >that hold the telephone handset. > > I've also seen it recommended for refrigerator door gaskets. > What talcum would do to protect rubberized plastic from > deteriorating is a mystery to me. Are we talking about > actual latex in any of these situations? I think not. > > I would guess these rubbers harden or goo-ify over time > due to something other than lack of talc, such as long-term > exposure to UV or ozone or absorption of volatiles from > other plastics. > > I have an old Anderson-Jacobsen 300 baud modem in a wooden > box that needs a new home, I think... The wooden ones are the original, 1st generation AJ's, IIRC... I have the second-generation plastic shell that assembles with an aluminum "waistband" and allenhead screws. The third generation used thinner plastic clamshells and no waistband, just some tapered Philips-head screws. The 3rd generation was also limited to 300 baud, while my 2nd generation could do 450 & 600 using the 300 standard (Bell 101?). -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

GEM-OS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Gene Buckle [mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com] > > Atari is the major exception (in that TOS is actually based on > > CP/M... > Huh? AFAIK, TOS is the ROM code that was the Atari > equivalent to the PC > GEM AES (application environment services) as well as some > other low-level > support routines. Well, this comes from reading, and not from first hand experience, so I could bw wrong, as always. (Not that I'm always wrong, but I could be... ;) I thought that they were supposed to have used a good chunk of CP/M source in creating TOS, though. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years

Someone need a copy of Jensen-Wirth?

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

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24 years

2 IBM 5.25" external floppy drives available + mics old PC stuff

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi cleaning out offices and found 2 IBM 5.25" floppy drives EXTERNAL says something like "type 4865" on the bottom and has some 50-ish pin male plug. Also an old AUI/BNC ethernet card and a 128 kB memory extension card. This is in Indianapolis. Let me know or by the end of the week this stuff is going to dumpster. -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years

Was: Re: WW fixtures (now hp67C)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> At 09:59 AM 4/6/02 -0500, you wrote: > >+AD4- how many of you fell for the hp67c ? > > > >Is a link still available? > > > >John A. > > > http://www.hp.com:calculators-product-id=67cx@209.197.117.170/item/product2. htm Other than the fact that HP dumped the calculator line, and thus this had to be bogus, was there something particularly funny about it that I'm missing? -dq

24 years

GEM-OS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Pope [mailto:bpope@wordstock.com] > Does the GEM TOS have any relationship to the GEM OS > that was available > for the PC? (Other then name) Indeed it does. GEM was DR's GUI that sort of "went with" CP/M, though, not many people that I know of really used them together. It was available for a few systems, though, I can't name them other than MS-DOS and Atari's STs right off. Atari is the major exception (in that TOS is actually based on CP/M... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years

Fwd: FS: Sun Sparc 5's

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I really don't know when the SS5 came out, so this may be OT. As usual, I have no connection with the seller, and don't know anything about him at all. Please reply directly to Micheal. Doc Newsgroups: austin.forsale Subject: FS: Sun Sparc 5's From: Michael <res006ft(a)gte.net> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:39:52 GMT I have 20 Sparc 5's $40.00 each 110Mhz, floppy, cdrom, video and sound, 1g hdd, 32m ram. email me at mgldwng(a)aol.com. Shipping from Dallas will be between $15 and $20 dollars Michael

24 years

should I take RM03's ?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > I am interested in classic _hardware_. I'm really not interested in > running unix v.7 under a PDP11 emulator on a PC -- I can get much the > same prompt from native 80x86 linux. But I am interested in running a > real PDP11. Thanks, Tony. You've just managed to put my perspective on the whole thing into words, probably much more articulately than I would have at the time I read the original message. > And that means running the old drives too. They're part of the > 'experience'. As is having to align them, repair them, and so > on. If I > wanted a modern computer, I'd buy a modern computer, OK... That too... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years

BA23 vs. BA123 vs. 42" cabinet?

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi, all. I went last night and picked up (OK, dragged, while groaning) the MicroVAX Terry Murphy posted for rescue Thursday night. I'm fairly certain he hadn't ever used it, as the description was not terribly accurate. There was no DELQA, several of the cab kits aren't there, memory is only 16M, etc. Nice haul, anyway. The thing came in a 42" elephant-ear cabinet, which is in fair cosmetic shape, and without plugging it in, I'd guess good to excellent functional shape. Some QBus boards I can't ID, and the other goodies that came with, I'll post separately. So. I'm not enamored of the idea of running a 240VAC rack in my garage if not necessary. That leaves me with two other ideas. 1) The "drawers" are simply BA23 enclosures, right? Any reason I can't use the primary enclosure as a stand-alone unit? It's going to be running a minimal set of hardware: KA655 CPU Dataram 63016 16M RAM DMV11 (simply to occupy the last CD slot) DEQNA/DELQA (whichever I can scrounge cheapest, first) TQK50 (undecided) RQDX3 (with probably only the RX50 or an RX33 attached) That _is_ the right bus order, isn't it? Will either the power requirements or cooling be a problem? What if I decide to run the RD54 instead of the TK50? Is it OK to run the BA23 without skins, lying flat? And, if I want to run the second backplane and extra drives, can I just stack them? 2) I can put all the above in the BA123 lurking downstairs. But it seems a huge waste of space & power over the BA23. Plus, I don't have cooling vanes for the dual cards in the added CD slots, or enough D<mumble>11 boards to go around. Plus, the BA23 I can wedge into my office, but the BA123 would have to live in the garage. Advice, discussion, points I've missed, all welcome. Doc

24 years

Inter-Listmember Contact Difficulties

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

There are a number of denial-of-service attacks under way on ther Internet all the time, but we're in a wave of heavy attacks right now. Once by one, DNS servers are getting hijacked, and as a result, domains are evaporating into the ether. Sometimes, one person can get through to another for a while because their domain remains cached somewhere along the route. But eventually, you get cut off. When it happend to us last week, our ISP tracked down the hijacking machine, which itself had been hijacked, and managed to well, it has a cold, shall we say? Nice to have an ISP with good Kung Fu... ;) In the meantime, list members might volunteer to get word through to some member that some other particular member might not be able to reach. And there are these things called telephones, too... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

need the use of a scanner with sheet feeder (near Seattle if possible)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > > I don't see any taint on mine -- all the holes look the same > > > shape to me. Can you give example titles? Perhaps they changed > > > their methods after a certain date. > > > > http://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/6000front.jpg > > > > Should be obvious over on the left, center... > > Mine doesn't have an enlarged hole like that -- as I said, > all the holes are the same size. > > Is there an extra thickness of paper (like those hole reinforcers > you can buy) or is the "margin" on the inner edge of the hole > just too thin to be sheet-fed? Too thin. Intuitively, I thought I'd get better results (fewer rips) by feeding the opposite edge into the gripper. But more taint tore that way than when fed in hole-edge first. And in the old days, I did repair pages using the hole reinforcers (back before they were self-adhesive and thinner than they are now), and the result is that the manual takes up twise as much space in the binder. No, I want to meet the genius who invented this binding system. Like GBC but not GBC. I also would like to find a connection for the yellow construction-paper (not really but that's close) that CDC used for the 70s era covers. Some mill in Minneapolis must have a ton of it laying around... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

24 years

Doug Yowza?

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

Anyone know what became of Doug Yowza who used to be on this list? -Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com) Web Page: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.

24 years

Ancient Ampex core memory board

by borisg＠unixg.ubc.ca

Hi: During a search I did tonight trying to locate info on a core-memory module, I kept running into references to this list, so I thought I'd joing. I've been going through some of my ancient electronics stuff and just came across a 42*100 bit Ampex core memory module. This module has P/N 3255780-01 S/N FA 2655 04570061. It consists of 2 boards fastened together with screws and spacers with the core plane sitting on the lower board under a plexiglass cover. It appears to be made up of 2 separate core planes of 42*50 bits. The board is 5.5 * 5.5 inches by 9/16" deep. The edge connectors are broken off, for their gold plating I suspect. I have a faint memory of picking up this board around 1976 in a computer surplus store. I've separated it into two boards (connections between the two boards are made by 12 wires soldered to the boards) and scanned it and these jpegs are available if anyone needs them to help out. I was wondering if anyone had any information of where I can find more information about this core-memory module. I haven't been able to find out anything about the IC's which populate this board (TI AAAL4 and Fairchild AAVA1) and even info on what these IC's are would be usefull as the board appears to be a simple 2 layer circuit board with very wide (compared to modern boards) traces that are trivial to convert to a schematic by using the scans of the two sides of each board. It would be neat to get this board up and running someday, and hopefully someone on this list has the info. Regards, Boris Gimbarzevsky

24 years

Of Mud and Virgins

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 8, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > That last prophecy has fulfilled itself! I visited Owen Robertson while in > FW, and we powered up his 11/34. He showed me a few things -- how to load > RL01 packs, where the power switch was, etc. -- and we proceeded to play > with the machine. There are problems with the RSX-11M pack he has, so I > loaded up an XXDP+ pack. After printing and reading the help file, I > experimented and was able (after some trial and error) to -- drum roll, > please -- load UPD2 and create another bootable pack with XXDP+ on it! Kick ass!! :-) > It's too bad we didn't do this a week sooner. The scrappers had just > finished destroying what was a very nice PDP-11/60. I at least found and > took the unit numbers from the RK07 and RP0x drive. I weep for the PDP-11/60. I take it you "educated" said scrappers, and left them your number? -Dave -- Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly, St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar

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