> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
> On April 12, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > Yeah. She's gonna get a flood of marriage proposals from dweebs
> > > she's never met.
> > Actually, she already does and has publicly lamented about
> this before.
> Bummer. We should all have such problems.
Indeed, if that's her worst problem, she has no problem at all. Anyway,
it ought not to be too difficult for her to produce an anti-proposal
procmail rule. ;)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
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> ----------
> From: Dave McGuire
>
> On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote:
> > Now, to mount equipment in it, I need to find some more of those
> > clip-on T-nut kinda things, which clip on around the hole in the rails,
> so
> > you then use the supplies screws to mount your equipment. Some older DEC
> > racks used the same thing.
> > And, as you can guess, the guys at the local Home Depot just gave
> > me funny looks.
> > Anybody know where I can get a dozen or two of these screw mount
> > sets? For a reasonable price? And what are they called?
>
> These are called "tinnerman clips" (not sure about the spelling).
> Suppliers like Grainger or Newark Electronics will likely have them,
> but don't expect them to be cheap...just a plain 19" rack from places
> like this can run over $2000.
>
> I get mine from surplus dealers, usually attached to racks. :)
>
> -Dave
>
>
Okay, thanks. Someone mentioned they have seen some like that used
in automobiles, probably in the body work... Might not work quite right,
though...
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On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote:
> Now, to mount equipment in it, I need to find some more of those
> clip-on T-nut kinda things, which clip on around the hole in the rails, so
> you then use the supplies screws to mount your equipment. Some older DEC
> racks used the same thing.
> And, as you can guess, the guys at the local Home Depot just gave
> me funny looks.
> Anybody know where I can get a dozen or two of these screw mount
> sets? For a reasonable price? And what are they called?
These are called "tinnerman clips" (not sure about the spelling).
Suppliers like Grainger or Newark Electronics will likely have them,
but don't expect them to be cheap...just a plain 19" rack from places
like this can run over $2000.
I get mine from surplus dealers, usually attached to racks. :)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
Hi everybody. Note that I have nothing to do with the following,
except that I bought a Prime from these guys recently, and they're
nice enough to hold it for me until I can move it ;)
Well, that -- and I'd hate to see a VAX-11 go to scrap. It looks
like they're looking for enough to make it worth their while to
rescue the thing. No idea how much.
You can email Joe at PPSJM _at_ prodigy dot net about this.
Again, I know nothing about it, except that I couldn't' afford the
money it would cost me to procure and move it right now, and I'd
rather it not get torn apart. :)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Moir
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: Vax 11/785
Hello,
I just wanted to throw this out and see if anybody has any interest. We have an opportunity to pick up a complete VAX11/785.
With all the boards in it, it's actually worth a decent amount as scrap metal. It is currently queued for the scrap heap.
I would buy it and resell it if anyone has an interest. I guess if anyone is interested make me an offer and I'll see if it's worth it for me to pick it up.
Thanks Joe
Joe Moir
Peripheral Parts Support
Phone-781-895-4892
Fax-781-895-4893
www.ppsparts.com
I'm working on a project that I'd like to have an 'old-looking' computer
running a device as a sort of 'process controller'. I really want it to
have a 'blinkenlights' operators panel on it. As I don't have a
commercially made computer with a suitable frontpanel on it, I was
thinking about taking something I have and 'modifying' it to be suitable.
So far, I have a couple options I am considering:
1) Customed designed mini using TTL (perhaps PALs so it doesn't take
months to assemble, although I will probably 'bother' to make a PCB for
it.
2) 8-bit ISA interface card and a 'suitably old' PC - Maybe an IBM 5150,
maybe just a 486 - if I do a 5150, i'll be writing a bunch of assembly and
avoiding using an OS. If I choose a 386/486 (I have spare 486s) I can
work on a driver for it in Linux so I have some sort of usable OS
available.
3) Apple //e card. I've got no idea how easy this will be to do - I don't
really know 6502/apple assembly at all, nor the bus.
#2 is the least amount of work for me, #3 some more work, #1 the most
work. Has anyone ever create an 'operators panel' for a PC or Apple 2?
I've got some ideas on how to do it (will definately require some
soft/firmware to make it work nicely). Is anyone else interested in
something similar? I was thinking about making something like a IMSAI
front panel - using the system's NMI to trigger the software to 'activate'
the panel.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
-- Pat
Second attempt to send.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: Help with Synergistic Info
> While down at my warehouse while looking for some manuals I came
across
> a strange box that was addressed to someone in MN. I opened it and
> found a strange looking keyboard/computer. It's metal housing painted
> black with gold stripes and printed on a label on the front "System
> Logic / KBD-1 SYNERGISTIC DESIGN INC." . This is a strange looking
> machine, the key caps are white clued on paper using black and red
> printed letters. Anyone have one of these along with a manual or any
> information on it? Thanks in advance John
>
>
Ok, I know this is a bit off-topic, but I was looking for any ideas as to
make a 3.5" or 5.25" drive bay LED array for my SCSI that I have running.
Something that will allow for both SCSI controller LED's and then 3 or 4
LED's for HDD activity. Also, wondering if anyone knew how to make an LED
that shows Ethernet connectivity and activity to interact with a standard
ATX board and an old AMD PCNet II PCI Ethernet card.
The whole reason I am interested in doing this is that now that I am
running more than one machine tucked under my desk, I'd like to be able to
see if something is wrong without having to open the damned thing or going
desk diving for a failed NIC. Yes, it sounds lazy, but the idea of a front
panel diagnostic isn't so bad and could also be used for other machines,
correct? Besides, lots of blinky lights always impress company when people
or clientele come over, grin. So again, any ideas?
-John Boffemmyer IV
----------------------------------------
Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst
and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies
http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html
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I would like to know the price of an Olivetti PC/1 at time of its
release in 1988, preferably in Italy where it was presumably first
available.
Thanks,
-- HBP
Hey All;
Just picked up a Vax 4000/300 today with 2 RF71 DSSI drives, TK70,
and I think 64MB ram... after I clean her up (its a little dusty) I was
thinking about playing with Ultrix, as I have enough VMS machines...
anyone know or try Ultrix 4.2 on the 4000/300? thats the latest I have
for the vax platform.. I have 4.5 but thats for the MIPS which I run on
my DECsystem 5000/240.
Thanks
--
David Barnes
davebarnes(a)adelphia.net
OpenVMS , Tru64, Netbsd, Linux guru
and collector of DEC equipment
While tracking down information on some obscure TI digital logic, I came
across a picture of this terminal on the Smithsonian website:
http://smithsonianchips.si.edu/texas/t_434.htm
There's also a picture of the prototype, which appears to be a heavily
modified TI-99/4 (no A):
http://smithsonianchips.si.edu/texas/t_433.htm
Anyone have one of these, or know any more about them?
jbdigriz
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 01:51:48 -0700
From: Jason Finley <jfinley(a)ucla.edu>
Subject: Berserker Works vintage computer games
Hi there,
I am trying very hard to find some very rare out-of-print software.
I am looking for two computer games, "The Berserker Raids," and
"Wings Out of Shadow." The games were made and sold between 1982 and
1989, by Berserker Works Ltd. They were designed for home computers
popular at the time, i.e. Apple II series 48k, Macintosh 512k,
Commodore 64, Atari 400/800, IBM-PC, IBM-PC jr.
Berserker Works Ltd was an effort of Fred and Joan Saberhagen, and
the two games I am looking for were based on Fred's "Berserker"
science fiction stories. I am in contact with Fred and Joan, and
they don't have a movable copy of the games. I'm trying to get a
hold of the software for an official Berserker fan web site I am
making.
If you could give me ANY information on who might deal in such
vintage computer games, or even where I might look to try to find
someone, that would be great. Any leads would be much appreciated.
Thank you very much,
Jason Finley
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
Hi guys,
> difference. The Colt was Commodore's XT-clone so no, the
> keyboard/mouse from the Colt will not work with the 2500.
> Keyboards
If the Colt is identical to that sold in Australia, then the mouse from
it will work with an Amiga. CBM designed the Colt with an unusual
connector (PC wise) that was identical to the Amiga's. We used to sell
the Commodore PC mouse to Amiga customers as a replacement, it was
around $15 cheaper than the Amiga one. I actually ended up using one
myself when my A1000's mouse went berko & died.
Keyboard adapters (PC > A2000) where fairly common once, the hard ones
to fnd are the PC > A1000, although I have a few of these.
Cheers,
Lance
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From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>Which tools are you referring to, Allison?
OLD tools, as in dos based.
>I've found that the tools I once used with the old (pre-1990) 2064's,
don't
>work with the 3000-series, and, though I have some 3000-series parts
(which,
>back when I bought them, cost about $200 each) I've not figured out a
way to
>program them using the old XACT or the more recent "Foundation"
software.
>They clearly are no longer supported with current software.
Neither have I. I also have the Synario package too. They phased out
the
tools for the 2064s a long time ago.
Allison
On April 14, Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
> > > Especially since that machine isn't Qbus. It's main bus is that 4300+
> > > PELE stuff.
> > True and false. ;-)
> > The machine has a QBus and therefore the CPU card has a QBus interface.
> > So it is a QBus VAX by my definition.
> > The CPU board is no QBus board like the KA630..KA660. It has a special
> > backplane connector and the (passive) backplane distributes the signals
> > from this connector to the QBus slots, the memory slots and DSSI drive
> > bays. So this is no QBus VAX by your definition.
>
> But that is not how I define it. The system bus of this machine is not
> Qbus, so the machine is not a Qbus machine.
Why, because the memory isn't on the Qbus? The MicroVAX-II's memory
isn't on the Qbus either. The only other difference (in this context)
is the presence of a DSSI adapter on the CPU board that isn't
connected [logically] via the Qbus. Many systems have several busses.
Which do you use to define the "bus" of the machine?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
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Hello all.
I was wondering if any of you know of a good power supply rebuilders in
the UK?
Why? Because i'm rather scared of the PSU bricks supplied with my VAX
11/750. 5V @ 135A, 2.5V @ 85A sounds unhealthy. I've seen small
capacitors the size of your thumbnail make holes in ceilings when
abused, I don't want to see what the four caps as thick as your arm and
about 10" long that construe most of the 11/750 PSU system will do when
being powered up in a (known) broken PSU setup after ~10 years storage.
What do I do? Do I get the PSUs rebuilt? (if such a service exists) Do I
order a new industrial PSU to supply these voltages/currents (plus
others, such as the +15 for the memory boards)? Do I buy 5 or 6 PC power
supplies and run their outputs in parallel with some nice heavy-gauge
cable?
Alex
Anyone have a KZQSA with handles for a BA430 (Vax 4000 series) cab they
want to trade for? I have lots of DEC stuff so just ask...
--
David Barnes
davebarnes(a)adelphia.net
OpenVMS , Tru64, Netbsd, Linux guru
and collector of DEC equipment
For Sale
Compaq SLT 286 Swedish keyboard
In working order - no battery
Am looking for good home for this machine
as refuse to dump it if somebody has a use for it
Best regards
Barry Apppleby
> From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com
> Well, googling to see what a 'LS170 was, I found this place that has
them,
> along with a 'LS181!
Google? Hmm, no offence or anything, but I find an ECG book to be a lot
handier for looking up general specs.
> Even at a decent price, too.
>
> http://www.web-tronics.com/ls181.html
Thanks for the pointer. I must wonder, though, if there's *something wrong
with this picture* -- Web-Tronics lists the 'LS170 at 50 cents, MCM has it
at $4. I know MCM is high, but this seems like too much of a spread.
Glen
0/0
[now that classiccmp posts my messages again, let me try again.
I am really desperate about this one.]
Hi, I just received two fine boards that need to be connected to
one other board each, through a very short cable, which is a 80
position ribbon with 0.025 in pitch (the small pitch) and an IDC
female connector on each end with 2 row of 40 holes at a distance
of 0.05 in between the holes. Turns out that most suppliers stock
maxes out at 64 pin IDC sockets, and the rest is special order with
crazy prices $3 to $22 and wild minimum orders of 23 to 100. So,
who knows of a place that serves small customers? (I need 10 of these
connectors maximal and maximum 1 ft of the matching cable.) Web sites
phone numbers anything. May be it might be easier to find the
original DEC hardware, I'm talking about the over-the-top connector
of a DEC KA64A to the FV64A, anyone having the FV64A installation
guide that tells us the part number of that cable?
Thanks very much,
-Gunther
--
Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org
Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> One of the options for the IPC is Technical BASIC in ROM.
Yes, looking closer at the ROM cartridge I see that the TechBASIC code and
version is on a sticker placed over the (larger) HP-UX sticker.
I must consider myself really lucky for getting that ROM, otherwise I'd
have to write shell scripts to program the IPC :-)
I opened the ROM pack and it contains two PCBs, the larger contains the
interface holes (where the pins sticking up from the IPC motherboard make contact)
and contains the OS ROMs (it says OS ROM on the PCB), while the smaller
sits on top of the OS PCB and contains the TechBASIC ROMs (it says OPTION ROM
on the PCB).
Each PCB contains two pairs of ROMs. OS are ROM0 (high and low) and
ROM1 (High and Low). The TechBASIC are ROM2 (H and L) and ROM3 (H and L).
Obviously since the ROMs are 8bit and the 68000 is 16 bit you need
a pair of ROMs for each bank. The OPTION ROM PCB has a very
straightforward interface since it contains just the 4 ROMs.
I am not sure of the capacity of the ROMs but I wouldn't think that they are
likely to be larger that 64Kbytes each. Now that we can get far larger PROMs,
if the images of the SE ROM were available, would it be possible to construct
an OPTION ROM PCB with everything in it?
> [...] C compiler (I think it includes an assembler) [...]
Thats great news I was thinking about setting up gcc on my OpenBSD system as
a cross compiler for the IPC, but in that case I'd need to recreate the
system libraries and include files. Is there any way you can put them up
for ftp?
ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
> HPIL is a loop, not a bus (strictly).
Guilty as charged, I was over simplifying to the point of being wrong.
I have a collection of HP-IL calculators and peripherals so I've had
first hand experience of things failing to work because of breaks (or
powered down devices) in the loop.
> Be careful. External HPIL ports are supposed to be transformer-isolated
> (using a special HP pulse transformer module, 9100-4226 IIRC). Every
> HPIL device with the external connector will contain said transformer.
yes I've been thinking about where to get such a transformer (and the dual
HP-IL socket). I was thinking of cannibalizing an HP-IL module for the HP-41.
> Is this the Thinkjet cartridge (little clear plastic thing with a black
> rubber ink sack inside)? If so, then the printer electronics is likely to
> be close to the Thinkjet as well
Its a Thinkjet all right. I have both the HP-IB and the HP-IL versions of the
Thinkjet and the mechanism and electronics of the printer in the Integral
are very close to the HP-IL version of the Thinkjet.
> If you have problems, then I've repaired enough Thinkjets to be able to
> offer comments...
Apart of having to clean the printer compartment of ink - unfortunately
the IPC was shipped with a print cartridge installed :-( it works all
right.
However, the instructions for cartridge replacement in the HP-IL Thinkjet
manual, imply that a small pad is supplied inside the cartridge packaging.
This pad is supposed to be inserted in front of the the cartridge on the
print-head. The new ink cartridges I have purchased do not have this pad
and each time the machine powers up the Thinkjet deposits a blob of ink on
the paper. Anybody knows of what can be used as a replacement for this pad?
> This surprises me. A 1.44M drive _using 720K disks_ should have no
> problems.
Me too! I am routinely reading and writing 9114 floppies on my laptop
but the IPC drive is particularly difficult. In the beginning I was really
lost because I would prepare floppies and the IPC would just say no. At
one point I thought there was something wrong with the drive itself. Once
I got the 720K drive for my PC, the IPC capitulated.
One interesting point is that using my "Unix" system (OpenBSD 2.9)
I can dd images on a new 720K diskette (i.e. formatted for the
IBM-PC) but the OpenBSD system barfs when I try to do the same on
the same floppy once it has been formatted by the IPC.
I have excluded alignment problems because I also have an 9122D external
drive and have done tests with floppies prepared on these drives.
Now that the IPC is usable, I am going to do more tests once I have some
spare time.
**vp
Engish not vendoreze...
dont know those parts at all.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: TTL computing
>ajp166 wrote:
>
>> I've done this with other similar packaged devices and it flies.
>Got any more details?
>> What prom are you looking for?
>>
>> I'm still playing with some 2064s and 3030s and 3050s, yes they are
old
>> but
>> the tools were free, the parts cheap and easy to load up with a
2816/64.
>>
>> Allison
>I am useing Altera. Altera EPC1141LC20,EPC1LC20 or ATMEL
>AT17C512A,AT17C010A.
>
>--
>Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
>www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
i was poking around the one box of docs that came with my PDP-11/34a that i
picked up a couple months ago, when i found the 11/750 Field Maint. Print Set
as well as the KA750 Field Maint. Print Set. i mentioned this to Dave McGuire
who said someone on this list was looking for power supply info for the 11/750.
if you still need help, contact me off-list and i'll give you whatever help
i can.
cheers,
-brian
--
"Today, put your best foot forward. If you're not sure which of your feet is
your best foot, cut one off. Then it doesn't matter." - www.lowbrow.com -
So far, cash ($135.00) has been donated as well as the following hardware...
256mb RAM
32X IDE CDROM
1.44mb floppy drive
Also, due to many requests, I upgraded my paypal account to accept credit
card donations as well.
All the support is most appreciated!
Jay West
