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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: blstuart(a)bellsouth.net <blstuart(a)bellsouth.net> >In message <Pine.LNX.4.33.0204180631001.27156-100000(a)siconic.com>, Sellam Ismai >l writes: >>How about calling it a Babbage? > >That was my thought as well, with possible runners up of >the Zuse, the Aiken, the Eckert or the Mauchley. > >Brian L. Stuart Why not use them all! A box is HeightxWidthxDepth, so why not computers measured in ZusexEckartxAikenxMauchley with the possible corrosponding dimensions in real terms of memory, speed, storage, wordsize or some such. Allison

23 years, 3 months

One-upsmanship

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Carlos Murillo <carlos_murillo(a)epm.net.co> >>"My computer requires more tons of AC cooling than yours" >> >>Jay West > >"My computer has broken more vertebrae than yours" >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org Me: My computer, all mine! Allison

23 years, 3 months

Guys take a look at this qbus cpu board on Ebay :-)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 19, Zane H. Healy wrote: > There is no shortage of real PDP-11's around here, the biggest problem I Huh? Where are you? I think it's time for a road trip. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

23 years, 3 months

who says great deals can't be had on ebay!

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I was going through the Ebay completed items just out of boredom, and noticed that an HP2748B paper tape reader went for $5.00 back on April 6th. That is one HECK of a deal!!! About a year and a half ago I saw (much to my chagrin, long story) an HP 7900A disc drive in working condition go for about $100 bucks. I missed the 2748B, but wouldn't have bid anyways, I already have two :) Jay West

23 years, 3 months

Office Max events

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 4/19/02 1:36:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, vance(a)ikickass.org writes: > One word I am fond of throwing around in the presence of retail management > is "misrepresentation". It usually gets their attention. Even at > Well, if you find a discrepency in a stores fliers, it's not only false advertisement (which most stores could care less about) but the big one to throw at them is it's also Mail Fraud (a federal offence)... -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

23 years, 3 months

AIM ROMs

by paul＠wccnet.org

I have the AIM monitor in ASCII format. Send me a message off-list if you want a copy e-mailed to you. Paul R. Santa-Maria Monroe, Michigan USA

23 years, 3 months

QBUS VAX and M7941 under VMS - info needed!

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> From owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Thu Apr 18 15:17:12 2002 > X-Authentication-Warning: ns2.ezwind.net: majordom set sender to owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org using -f > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:38:24 +0100 > From: Dave Woodman <dave(a)naffnet.org.uk> > Organization: The Nicely Naff Network > X-Accept-Language: en > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: QBUS VAX and M7941 under VMS - info needed! > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > Hi all, > > I have a MicroVAX (BA123 enclosure, KA650 CPU) that I would like > to put to work... to this end I have two M7941 (DRV11) parallel I/O > cards that I would like to bring into service. The Micronotes say that > this card is compatible with the 22-bit QBUS, and I have the Field > Service print set so I can set the CSR and vectors to appropriate > values. > > Of course, VMS does not have a driver for these cards, but I am > not too frightened by the prospect of a little code - here lies the > problem! Can anyone tell me just how this card maps into the I/O space, > given the CSR? I would like to know just where to read from and write to > in order the drive the beastie... It's sort of standard DEC for a parallel interface. CSR + 2 is the output buffer, connected to connector J1 Bits in CSR+2 are read/write to the CPU besides the data lines, J1 has some control bits REQA which maps to CSR<15> and is read-only NEWDATA, pulse output by CPU writing to CSR+2, which should be used to clear REQA CSR1 which is CSR<1>, read-write for device control CSR + 4 is the input buffer, connected to connector J2 Bits in CSR+4 are read-only to the CPU J2 has control bits: REQB mapped to CSR<7>, read-only DATATRANS, pulse output by CPU reading CSR+4, should be used to clear REQB CSR0 which is CSR<0>, read-write for device control CSR has the usual INT_ENB A at <6> and INT_ENB A at <5> INT_ENB AND REQ makes an interrupt. Interrupt A at VEC, B at VEC+4. Information from "microcomputer interfaces handbook 1980" EB-17723-20 carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

23 years, 3 months

QBUS VAX and M7941 under VMS - info needed!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Of course, VMS does not have a driver for these cards, but I am >not too frightened by the prospect of a little code - here lies the >problem! Can anyone tell me just how this card maps into the I/O space, >given the CSR? I would like to know just where to read from and write to >in order the drive the beastie... The necessary manuals are all available at: http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/ Start with the OpenVMS VAX Device Support Manual ( http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/documentation/PDF/OVMS_VAX_SUP_GD .pdf ) and the OpenVMS VAX Device Support Reference Manual ( http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/documentation/PDF/OVMS_VAX_SUP_GD .pdf ) Both of these are now in the archived section. The second one of these is basically an introduction to writing a device driver for OpenVMS VAX and includes probably all the info you need for the Qbus mapping in Chapter 14. The Coinnect to Interrupt stuff in Chapter 21 may be a useful introduction if you've not done a full driver before. It will show you how to map the registers and respond to device interrupts. Once you can do that you should have the hang of talking to devices on the Qbus and can move on to doing a driver proper. Antonio

23 years, 3 months

The Unit (was: One-upsmanship (was: Secret Mac))

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>X-Server-Uuid: e4c4d26a-1188-11d5-b029-00508be35655 >X-Authentication-Warning: ns2.ezwind.net: majordom set sender to owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org using -f >From: "Carlini, Antonio" <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com> >To: "'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: RE: The Unit (was: One-upsmanship (was: Secret Mac)) >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:23:41 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-WSS-ID: 10A18E9F850016-01-02 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Since when has 'Celsius' been an SI unit? And since when has the > >abreviation for it been 'C'? C _is_ used for an SI unit -- the >Coulomh. > > Twas a coulomb when I were at skool ... > My Calculator says C is 299792458. Dwight

23 years, 3 months

King's Quest and the PCjr

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Would someone who has the PCjr King's Quest disks tell me which files are on which disk? (Or, if it's just one disk, what files are on it?) I really want to get this working! :-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- The steady state of disks is full. -- Ken Thompson -------------------------

23 years, 3 months

Secret Mac

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Does anybody know if motherboard removal was >a common practice in decomissioning tempest computers? Maybe the people that were using it were super paranoid? There is a company near here dumping PCs right now, and each one has to have its motherboard snapped in half before it hits the dumpster.... because they are afraid a rival company will get the PC and find info left behind on the motherboard. (it really just tells me some ignorant person is in charge of the disposal, but either way, it is their policy right now). Hard Drives are being reformatted with one of those secure wiping programs and then opened and smashed. Of course, I can't personally verify this, as the info came to me from a friend, but with some of the moron IT directors I have met, I don't hesistate to believe it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

20mA serial cable connector

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 20:59:26 -0400 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > Subject: Re: 20mA serial cable connector > In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020418171133.00a29500(a)ubanproductions.com> > > Tom, > > Can you post a picture of one? One of the places that I scrounge at has baskets full of cut off cable connectors. I might be able to find some there. > > > Joe > > At 05:11 PM 4/18/02 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm looking for a supply of the uncommon DEC 20mA current loop male connector > >shells used to plug into DEC VT100s, Wyse 85s, and the like. It is also used > >to plug into the H744 (and other) power supplies. > > > >The DEC part number is 12-09340-00 which might also be a Mate-N-Lock > >1-480460-0 > > > >I would like to find 12-24 of them. I am assuming that if I can find the > >shells, I can find a pin from either AMP or Molex which will work. Some web browsing shows me that Mate-N-Lock pins are still available, but the flat connector shells seem to be gone. On the Compaq web site there are some cables with Mate-N-Lock on one end and various other connectors on the other end, for use with LA30's. I tried to search the Compaq site for Mate-N-Lock but it crashed my Netscape 6, as usual. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

23 years, 3 months

QBUS VAX and M7941 under VMS - info needed!

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:45:50 -0700 > From: cdl(a)proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: QBUS VAX and M7941 under VMS - info needed! > > It's sort of standard DEC for a parallel interface. > > CSR + 2 is the output buffer, connected to connector J1 > Bits in CSR+2 are read/write to the CPU > > CSR + 4 is the input buffer, connected to connector J2 > Bits in CSR+4 are read-only to the CPU > > CSR has the usual INT_ENB A at <6> and INT_ENB A at <5> > INT_ENB AND REQ makes an interrupt. Interrupt A at VEC, B at VEC+4. > > Information from "microcomputer interfaces handbook 1980" > EB-17723-20 Add-on to my own post. While driving home I remembered something that has bothered me about DEC parallel interfaces (DR11, DRV11) for nearly 30 years. Why couldn't they make the programming model the same as the single-channel serial interface? Input control CSR Input data CSR+2 Output control CSR+4 Output data CSR+6 Then you could use the same software driver for an 8-bit parallel device or an 8-bit serial device. Just plug in a different bit of hardware. Actually the Heathkit 16-bit parallel Qbus card was like that. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

23 years, 3 months

VCF Apple-1 Auction 4/19-4/21

by mythtech＠mac.com

>The VCF is auctioning off another Apple-1 computer. I assume when the auction has concluded, you'll relay what it sold for. Think I can get it for 25 bucks? I'll also cover shipping :-D -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

BIE 4410

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

It's been spoken for a few times over. Now I wish I had a couple of them. -- Pat

23 years, 3 months

HP 9114B floppy & Pmac dos card & Annex 2

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I need to get rid of some more stuff: - HP 9114 HP-IL floppy drive, two rechargable battery packs (untested) - Powermac 6100 DOS (486) card with 6100 riser, but no dongle - Encore Annex 2 Terminal Server, pair of Amphelon 50pin (SCSI-I style) ports on its back Best offers by 1400 Zulu (7PM CDT) on 4/19/02 gets it. Best bid of at least $10 gets an item. Anything not sold goes to ePay. (more work for me :( ) Help support a 'poor college student' (me) :) -- Pat

23 years, 3 months

Secret Mac

by mythtech＠mac.com

>It had a VERY expensive 1553 Bus analyzer card in it and ALL the >(Classified) software was still on the drive. I offloaded 1553 files and >wiped and reformatted the drive. but never even peeked at those classified files... right? (wink wink nudge nudge) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Download CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 Freeware CDs from Tim Shoppa

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:55:58 -0400 > From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinepw4z(a)compsys.to> > Organization: Just Sufficient > X-Accept-Language: en > To: "William R. Buckley" <hhacker(a)ev1.net>, > "classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Download CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 Freeware CDs from Tim Shoppa > > Jerome Fine replies: > > It took a week of trying, but I have finally downloaded all three CD > images for RSX-11 and RT-11 from: > ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ > Note also that the file MD5SUMS seems to contain checksum > values, but I don't know how to use these values or produce them > myself to check if my files are correct. Can anyone help? There is a program "md5sum" that comes with GNU textutils. It will run on most Unix or Unix-like systems. I suspect that with a fair amount of effort it could be made to run on RT11, compiled with DECUS C, but I haven't really looked at that.. When you run mda5sum on a file it produces a 32-hex-digit "message digest". This should match the one that you downloaded from the original source. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

23 years, 3 months

NeXT (Almost-up-and-running-now) Laser Printer

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com> > To: "'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: NeXT (Almost-up-and-running-now) Laser Printer > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:54:27 -0500 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Erik S. Klein [mailto:classiccmp@mail.vintage-computer.com] > > > If the printer you have is the NeXT 400 dpi unit (I don't > > have the model number in front of me) then I picked up > > several from the gentleman who was selling them cheap in the > > Bay Area. If you need one for spares or as a replacement > > I'll be happy to sell it for what I paid for it ($15) plus > > shipping. The ones I have are in excellent (untested) shape > > with some looking almost new. . . > > Well, thanks for the offer. We'll see what happens here. I'm > still hopeful of getting it fixed, and if not, I may be able to > get a replacement locally. I happen to know (from the guy who > runs the place) that the local scrapyard is overrun with these ;) Just remember that all of the NeXT printers are getting on in age, and most of them have one or more of the fatal symptoms: Input roller has dried out so paper doesn't go in. Output gear has stripped so paper doesn't come out. There are other interesting problems that some printers have, such as the "door open" sensing switch insisting that the door is not closed. I don't know how many printers you would have to merge to get one that worked. Randy Rencsok's web site has lots of good documentation on disassembling NeXT printers. < http://www.channelu.com/NeXT/Black > carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

23 years, 3 months

PRO/Venix

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

In case anyone is interested, I was organizing some of my collection today and came across a set of Pro/Venix documentation in original DEC/Professional boxes and the V2.0 release of Pro/Venix (with the developers toolkit). I'm hoping the disks (RX50s) are still readable... If they are, I'll try to make image copies and get them to the PUPS archive... any place else I should consider? Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 3 months

The Unit (was: One-upsmanship (was: Secret Mac))

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Since when has 'Celsius' been an SI unit? And since when has the >abreviation for it been 'C'? C _is_ used for an SI unit -- the Coulomh. Twas a coulomb when I were at skool ...

23 years, 3 months

NeXT (Almost-up-and-running-now) Laser Printer

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 18, Tony Duell wrote: > I am going to guess this is based on a Canon print engine. If so, then > the first thing to do is to indentify which one. The PrinterWorks > (http://www.printerworks.com/) used to have pictures of printers, > exploded diagrams of the mechanism, etc on their website. They probably > still do. > > Alternatively, does it take the same toner cartridge as any more common > (HP, for example) printer? The NeXT laser printer is a [slightly] modified Canon SX engine. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

23 years, 3 months

AIM-65 displays

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Dick: No, I don't have a machine-readable version of the listing. I scanned the pages directly to PDF (using Acrobar Writer) but I never got around to taking those scans and OCRing them to a text file (it was on the RSN list). I did the PC BIOSes and the VIC Kernal ROM, The KIMs were done by others. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:04 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: AIM-65 displays You wouldn't happen to have a machine-readable (non-PDF) just text file of the monitor listing, whould you? Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: RE: AIM-65 displays > If you look on my Web site, I have scans of all of the AIM manuals as well > as the monitor listing, schematics and ROM dumps. > > http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/my_docs.htm > > Rich > > ========================== > Richard A. Cini, Jr. > Congress Financial Corporation > 1133 Avenue of the Americas > 30th Floor > New York, NY 10036 > (212) 545-4402 > (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: AIM-65 displays > > > I'd be happy to scan the content and make it available as a G4 TIF file. > Now, > I probably have that stuff somewhere as well, but ... > > Joe Rigdon once said he had an AIM complete with the BASIC and ASM roms. > I'd > assume that the assembler uses the syntax in which the ROMs are written, > which > would help. ISTR he wanted to make the ROMs available, but didn't have an > EPROM programmer at the time, and didn't know how to dump the ROMs without > one. > > Let me know off-list how we can handle the listings. > > Dick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Kearney" <jim(a)jkearney.com> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: AIM-65 displays > > > > I have the listings. It's a small book called "AIM 65 Monitor Program > > Listing", and includes all the I/O routines, the editor and > > assembler/disassembler. If you don't have it, I could lend it to you. > > > > Jim > > > > > >> I'll have a look to see whether I have any ROM listings. I > > > >> thought I did, > > > > > > > > > >

23 years, 3 months

NeXT (Almost-up-and-running-now) Laser Printer

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 18, Christopher Smith wrote: > I'm certain that this problem comes from the printer setting > too long, and making an indentation in the rubber on the > roller. Has anyone had success in repairing this kind of > thing? The pickup roller is supposed to have a flat spot in it...if that's what you're noticing, it's normal. > The printouts have black in the wrong places sometimes; > fused, but -- well, basically it looks like a bad photocopy :) > Sometimes the misplaced ink will have an imprint from another > part of the same page, or from the previous page. > > There are also "splotches" of white here and there in the > good printouts where there should be some toner. > > I imagine something may be dirty, but not knowing a lot about > laser printers (aside from keep away from the fuser when it's > operating...), I don't' know where to start looking, nor would > I necessarily know how to clean things up if I found the right > spot. CX and SX engines sometimes have problems with crap collecting on the corona wires...especially the transfer corona underneath the paper path. Look for a trough about 0.5" wide with a hair-thin wire running through the middle of it, possibly shielded with a sparse wrapping of a plastic thread that looks like fishing line. Clean this VERY carefully by rubbing an alcohol-saturated cotton swap back and forth over it. That might help a bit. If not, it may be the drum precharge corona wire, which is inside the toner cartridge. There should be a little green plastic tool with a strangely-shaped felt tip stuck into a clip inside the printer. Stick this into the transfer corona wire access slot on the toner cartridge and run it back and forth. It's self-aligning due to the shape of the green plastic tool and grooves in the toner cartridge...there's only one place and direction in which it'll fit correctly. (sorry for the lack of detail here, this is difficult to describe textually) Give that a shot and see how things clean up. If that doesn't help, contact me and I'll see if I can dig up anything else from my dusty memories Canon CX and SX print engine repair training back in 1987. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

23 years, 3 months

AIM-65 monitor source reconstruction

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Hans B Pufal" <hansp(a)aconit.org> > >On last thing for tonight, you can download the latest version of the >text file at www.aconit.org/hbp/AIM65/monitor.txt > >Good night folks, > > -- hbp > > That's no fair, your picking all the small ones but you missed page 13. Dwight

23 years, 3 months

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