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[CCTALK] [CCTECH] test not to [CCTALK]

by dougq＠iglou.com

Your test received here on CCTALK a-ok, intended or not... -dq

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Re: scanners & circuit boards...

by dougq＠iglou.com

> What's everyone's thoughts on placing circuit boards directly > on the bed of a scanner for imaging? Any possibility of damage to > the board from the light or other parts of the scanner? I've done it > before with good results but not with anything truly unique. I've only done it once, with an unpopulated 8051 controller board I'd bought a few of from some guy's widow... I tried to buy the rights, but she wanted too much. I like the controller and when I run out (two more left, I think), I'll re-do the art. Not for commercial use, of course, and I may send the widow some bucks anyhow... -dq

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] RE: [CCTECH] test not to [CCTALK]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Jay, or some other list admin here... Is the delay, of messages from cctech getting posted to cctalk, intentional? Okay, after that downpour of cross-posts... the delay is shorter. I assume that's due to server processing? Just curious... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] [OT] Emabrgoed Domains

by mtapley＠swri.edu

</MODE=SMART_ASS> >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> ^^^^^^^^^ >I understand the sentiment, but that hoses me. I work for one of those >guys (I'm not admitting which one here - company policy)... Ummm.... </MODE=NORMAL> Glad swri.edu wasn't on the embargoed list. I couldn't understand the punch through instructions. Is it easy to embargo countries vs. domains? - Mark

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] scanners & circuit boards...

by pdp11＠bellsouth.net

> What's everyone's thoughts on placing circuit boards directly > on the bed of a scanner for imaging? Any possibility of damage to > the board from the light or other parts of the scanner? I've done it > before with good results but not with anything truly unique. I've done it many times with great results. The only component I can think of that may be an issue are old UV erasable EPROMS. I would imagine that the scanner lamp may put out enough UV light to cause a problem. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] [OT] Emabrgoed Domains

by dougq＠iglou.com

Sorry about this, but the volume of spam has gotten intolerable, and the domains that are hosting it have been embargoed; anything from the domains yahoo.com hotmail.com msn.com aol.com will be deleted with extreme prejudice. If you happen to be one of those very few decent people who are using one of these ISPs (yes I'm pissed), and you want to contact me, you'll have to punch through the filter. To do that, take the two-word phrase I used in the sentence above, misspell the second word using the commonly-used shorter mispelling, concatenate it with the violence word that precedes it, capitalize, and enclose the result in square brackets. Someday, somebody will make procmail easy to use, and this won't be necessary. Regards, -doug q

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] transistor counts again

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >> > The 4004 was once rumored to have been named that because it had the >> > equivalent of 4004 transistors. >> > THAT is what probably gave rise to the 68000 silliness. >> > It's MUCH more impressive what was done with only 486! > >On Wed, 15 May 2002, Andreas Freiherr wrote: >> Shoudn't that read "80486"? >only if we stick with intel! > >That's what was so impressive about the Cyrix 486SLC, was that it DIDN'T >have the other 80,000! 'course it always seemed more like a fast 80386 to >me. >And the K6 does a really nice job with 6144! >and how about the Z80, V20, etc.? > Hi What are you guys talking about. The K6 has millions of transistors, as does the 486. Dwight

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Test post and DEC Unix question

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Dan Kolb > > On Wednesday 15 May 2002 18:48 pm, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > ..an example there is... > > # mount -u / > > ... when booted into single user. > > Thanks! That did the trick. > > Dan > -- > No problem. Now, if I can only get paid for doing this e-mail computer support as well as here ***sigh*** ;) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] DEC Unix (Break-in) DIgital Dec3000/500 Flamingo

by truthanl＠oclc.org

Ethan Dicks wrote: > > >I'm trying to break into (my own) DEC Alpha running Digital Unix V3.2... COINCIDENTLY: I was trying to break into a DEC 3000/500 system I inherited >from a launched development project here at OCLC. Rick Murphy's post also got me into single user mode on my system, But unlike you I haven't a Clue on how to edit the password files now that I am In. I had almost sent off for NetBSD for the Flamingo, but reading thier list I could not have used the console or Mouse that is on this system. My system has Digital Unix V4.0D (rev 878) May 5 1998 During the Boot the system changes Fonts and goes to 1280X1024 Mode My system has 224 MBytes of Ram 2 RZ25 drives, one RZ26 drive, one RRD42 cd drive and a TLZ06 tape transport. It also has the DEC lance ethernet installed. So how do I edit the root password from here? This is my first foray into unix admin.... Sincerely Larry Truthan

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] DEC Unix (Break-in) DIgital Dec3000/500 Flamingo

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Truthan,Larry > > Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > > >I'm trying to break into (my own) DEC Alpha running Digital Unix > V3.2... > > > COINCIDENTLY: I was trying to break into a DEC 3000/500 system I > inherited > from a launched development project here at OCLC. > > Rick Murphy's post also got me into single user mode on my system, But > unlike you I haven't a Clue on how to edit the password files now that I > am > In. > > I had almost sent off for NetBSD for the Flamingo, but reading thier > list > I could not have used the console or Mouse that is on this system. > > My system has Digital Unix V4.0D (rev 878) May 5 1998 > > During the Boot the system changes Fonts and goes to 1280X1024 Mode > > My system has 224 MBytes of Ram 2 RZ25 drives, one RZ26 drive, one RRD42 > cd drive and a TLZ06 tape transport. It also has the DEC lance ethernet > installed. > > > So how do I edit the root password from here? This is my first foray > into > unix admin.... > # passwd ...is the command. Look into vipw also... But be careful in that one... BTW, you can get X running on a NetBSD loaded DEC3000. If you search through the mail archives for port-Alpha/netBSD, you should find some info on how to do it... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Test post and DEC Unix question

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Dan Kolb > Reply To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:32 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: [CCTALK] Test post and DEC Unix question > > On Wednesday 15 May 2002 17:28 pm, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > --- Rick Murphy <rmurphy(a)itm-inst.com> wrote: > > ^^^^^ Hmm....I seem to have not got Rick's message for some reason. > > > > At 03:49 PM 5/14/02 -0700, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > >I'm trying to break into (my own) DEC Alpha running Digital Unix > > > > V3.2... > > I'm trying to do the same on OSF1/Digital Unix v4.0 > > > > Once you're in single-user mode, "mount -r /" to remount the root... > > This doesn't want to work for me - keeps saying 'device busy'. I can't get > > a man page for 'mount' up, because the root fs (and therefore /tmp) is > read-only, and I don't have another Digital Unix 4.0 box to get a man > page up on :-) Could anyone kindly point me towards the right options for > remounting a mounted filesystem read-write? > > -- > According to man mount(8) on my D/UX 3.2C box... -u Remount a file system.... -r read only -w read/write, which is equal to -o rw ..an example there is... # mount -u / ... when booted into single user. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] Keycap cleaning strategy

by pdp11＠bellsouth.net

> I'm going to clean a Sun 3 keyboard today. Its keycaps are filthy. The > strategy I've used in the past for the keycaps is: > > * Goto the kitchen. There is a double sink there. > * Fill one sink with hot, soapy water and the other will cold, non-soapy > water. > * Dump the keycaps into the hot sink and let them soak for a while. > * Slosh the keycaps around a bit. > * Transfer the keycaps to the cold water. If necessary, wipe grime from each > one as it is transferred. > * Arrange the keycaps for drying. Dry them with a hair dryer. > * Test for dryness by tapping a table with a keycap. If any water drops > appear on the table, repeat the previous step. > > I have a dishwasher, but I don't trust it. I've had pretty good luck cleaning the caps on Sun keyboards without removing them. By using a good quality commercial spray cleaner sprayed on a cloth, you can get them looking almost like new. If they were really bad, I could see taking them off and soaking them. The dishwasher would be a bad idea. You could easily end up with a bunch of little bits of melted plastic and a broken dishwasher. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 11 months

Has the list gone dead?

by foo＠siconic.com

Anyone out there? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] TRS-80 Model 1

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/15/02 10:22:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: > As a benefit to those here on the cctech side of the list who value > topical messages, I am only sending these many referrals I receive every > month to cctech. > Thanks Sellam. This is an interesting idea. If you get this message then CCTECH is working for you. It is for me. Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] [CCTECH] TRS-80 Model 1

by foo＠siconic.com

Here's some lady with a TRS-80 Model 1. She wants money for it. $50-$75 would be reasonable. Reply-to: <bob-barb(a)humboldt1.com> Note: As a benefit to those here on the cctech side of the list who value topical messages, I am only sending these many referrals I receive every month to cctech. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 18:35:31 -0700 From: ROBERT HEIMANSON <bob-barb(a)humboldt1.com> To: vcf(a)vintage.org RADIO SHACK TRS-80 MODEL I COMPUTER - Complete with Keyboard, Monitor, Cassette Drive Recorder, Printer, Books, Original Manuals, and Lots of Software. A REAL CLASSIC VINTAGE COMPUTER FOR THE COLLECTOR. Make an offer, plus UPS Shipping. E-mail Barbara at bob-barb(a)humboldt1.com. Call (707) 445-2279, evenings or Sundays Pacific Time. Write to: Barbara Heimanson, 4127 Walnut Drive, Eureka, California 95503. Barbara Heimanson -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] [CCTECH] Working yet?

by foo＠siconic.com

Is cctech passing messages yet? All I see are messages from cctalk. A lot of them are messages that are on topic and should be going to cctech. I'm waiting to unsubscribe to cctalk until I know cctech is working. Who's doing the moderation on cctech? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Who's going to Dayton? Take two

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

OK... something about the recent changes to the list adminstration process caused my reply to be bounced, but we'll try a fresh message... A couple of list members piped up about going to the Hamvention. I will be there on Friday only, and not for the entire day (previous commitment elsewhere). If anyone has a mind to get together, I will have a 2m radio and a cell phone. Write me directly for numbers. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] SPD/DOS ?

by aek＠spies.com

I picked up a box of 8" hard sectored floppies on my trip, and was trying to identify the system they came from. There is a system floppy that has the following paper directory included. Does anyone know what system this is for? DIRECTORY LISTING DSN=DISKJW S T ..NAME.. FT IF NT ...............L A B E L ---------------- 0 EDIT 03 05 02 SPD/DOS EDIT V3.17 74-10-14-2030 0 DCOPY 05 05 01 SPD/DOS DCOPY V3.09 74-10-14-1210 0 ERASE 06 05 01 SPD/DOS ERASE V3.02 74-10-10-0845 0 PACK 07 05 01 SPD/DOS PACK V3.05 74-10-08-0250 ? 0 FORMAT 08 05 02 SPD/DOS FORMAT V3.10 74-10-08-0140 0 ZAP 10 05 02 SPD/DOS ZAP V2.12 74-10-15-0110

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] transistor counts again

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > Yeah. > The 4004 was once rumored to have been named that because it had the > equivalent of 4004 transistors. > THAT is what probably gave rise to the 68000 silliness. > It's MUCH more impressive what was done with only 486! Wouldn't that be 80486? Motorola kept it much smaller for a while, and then jumped to 88000 ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Commodore 1541 Drive

by gehrich＠tampabay.rr.com

At 09:45 AM 5/15/02 -0500, you wrote: >I'm trying to get one I have four of them on consignment on my web site. Let me know if interested and I will let you know off list what I need to get for one or more. Also they are heavy to ship (about $9 each) Gene http://www.voicenet.com/~generic

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] cctalk test

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

test cctalk

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] [OT] Emabrgoed Domains

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Douglas H. Quebbeman > > ....If you happen to be one of those very few decent people who > are using one of these ISPs (yes I'm pissed), and you want > to contact me, you'll have to punch through the filter. > > To do that, take the two-word phrase I used in the sentence > above, misspell the second word using the commonly-used shorter > mispelling, concatenate it with the violence word that precedes > it, capitalize, and enclose the result in square brackets. > Geez, you must be pissed! That's a hell of some hoops to jump through! -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] FullPageDisplay (and landfill)[was RE: Alphaserver for trade]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

BTW, does anybody know if Radius sold their Mac Full Page Display under any other names? I think I have one, but I don't recall the brand at the moment.. > From: Chris > > > Aww, man! how come the good stuff is always on the other side of the > >country? > > Or Texas... what is it with Texas... why do you have all the old > computers? Is NJ using other states for landfill again?? > > -chris > Chris, don't you know that NJ (the Landfill state) isn't supposed to get the good trash, just the smelly stuff... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Commodore 1541 Drive

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

> Also, is there any chance of making a 1541 read an Apple ][ disk? I know they both use GCR encodings for their disks, and it'd be really useful if I could read disks on my PC. I don't believe there is a way to make a 1541 read Apple ][ disks. I don't recall any programs to do this from the "old days" anyway, and if there had been a program, I'm sure I would have heard about it as I knew lots of people who had both machines, and it would have been somewhat desirable to move data between the two. - Bob

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] FW: Off-Topic: Goodbye to ftp.digital.com?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Paul Vixie > Subject: Re: Off-Topic: Goodbye to ftp.digital.com? > > i have just communicated with the operators of gatekeeper.dec.com (with > whom ftp.isc.org shares a cage at PAIX) and was told two things. > > 1. HP plans to fully support gatekeeper (now that the merger is done), > and has approved a 1-Terabyte expansion to its disk storage subsystem; > > 2. ftp.digital.com is no longer the same computer as gatekeeper.dec.com, > it's a machine on the east coast somewhere. > > i've asked whether there's any problems looming for ftp.digital.com, and > i'll report back here if i hear anything. but gatekeeper.dec.com (which > i had a hand in creating back during my 1998-1993 stint at dec.com) is > absolutely safe from harm. > > > -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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