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by dougq＠iglou.com

> Doc wrote: > > > I've also noticed tacit cooperation concerning eBay auctions. If I > >recognise a bid as made by a list member, I don't bid against them, and > >that seems to be the norm. > > Or, you soon realize that you shouldn't bother bidding > against AEK. <grin> There's another guy who bids on virtually everything I want... I "know" him, in that I've personally dealt with him from time to time... I don't think he's a subscriber here, but at any rate, I usually let him have the items, and just shrug it off (like a large removable disk drive subsystem that I honestly would have had trouble with shipping). But I always get a big, big wide grin when AEK bids against the guy, and generally wins... BTW, the guy in question is a decent guy, didn't want to make it seem otherwise, it's just the his collection has no public face of any kind, and so it's like this stuff is just being sucked into a black hole... -dq

23 years, 11 months

computer sales -- now only on e-bay???

by dougq＠iglou.com

Dick wrote: > > > --- "Douglas H. Quebbeman" <dougq(a)iglou.com> wrote: > > > > > Doc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've also noticed tacit cooperation concerning eBay auctions. If I > > > > > >recognise a bid as made by a list member, I don't bid against them, and > > > > > >that seems to be the norm. > > > > > > > > > > Or, you soon realize that you shouldn't bother bidding > > > > > against AEK. <grin> > > > > > > > > There's another guy who bids on virtually everything I want... > > > > I "know" him, in that I've personally dealt with him from > > > > time to time... I don't think he's a subscriber here, but > > > > at any rate, I usually let him have the items, and just > > > > shrug it off (like a large removable disk drive subsystem > > > > that I honestly would have had trouble with shipping). > > > > > > > > But I always get a big, big wide grin when AEK bids against > > > > the guy, and generally wins... > > > > > > > > BTW, the guy in question is a decent guy, didn't want to > > > > make it seem otherwise, it's just the his collection has > > > > no public face of any kind, and so it's like this stuff > > > > is just being sucked into a black hole... > > > > > Steve wrote: > > > Certainly, I didn't want it to seem as though this was > > > "bad". Al Kossow has won an auction of mine and I > > > think he does have a website with very useful stuff on > > > it. Ebay is a fairly pure form of capitalism. It's > > > just me crying in my beer about not having pockets as > > > deep. Still, if one gets lucky, and finds something > > > misclassified or I can catch someone sleeping > > > (sometimes literally, at 2:00 AM), bargains can STILL > > > be had on eBay. > > > > Oddly enough, eBay should reflect the highest prices. instead, some view it > > as producing the lowest. I'm not sure where this logic comes from. It just depends in the item. There will be no bargain Altairs or IMSAIs on E-Bay. But I'm picking up 9-track magtapes for reasonable prices, albeit slightly more expensive than Mark Tapley has been selling them for (I'm sampling the waters, so to speak). Ditto the more obscure stuff... As to the view that E-Bay *should* produce the lowest prices? No logic involved there, Dick, that's faith on the part of some people in the open hand of Adam Smith- a view I don't share. Comments about the failure of lassie-faire capitalism should be directed to me personally, please... -dq

23 years, 11 months

PDP-11/70 backplane wire list ?

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Does anyone have a PDP-11/70 backplane wire list? I have both a KB11-B and KB11-C printset and neither of them contain a backplane wire list. --tnx --tom

23 years, 11 months

computer sales -- now only on e-bay???

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org] > It seems that way. I remember a time when one could find a wide > variety of classic computers advertised on Usenet newsgroups, for sale > to the first person to make a reasonable, or not so reasonable, offer > or pay the advertised price. Some of it was free plus shipping. I've Are you saying that doesn't happen any more? > rather try to conduct their own private auctions or else they post ads > mentioning that they're selling the equipment on e-bay; we see this > happening on classiccmp as well. "Private auctions?" If you mean selling at a price of "best offer," that's probably perfectly reasonable for something of which you can't decide the value. As for posting an add for an ebay auction, I won't say they can't do it, but it annoys me. If I wanted to go to ebay to find the stuff, I would. > One would think that, like the PDP-11s etc. were several years ago, > the AS/400, Aviion, VAX 4000 and Alpha systems, etc. would now be Perhaps it's a "right place, right time" thing. My Aviion was free. Needs something done to repair the clamps in the SIMM socket -- I haven't really got the equipment to solder a SIMM socket, or I'd rip one out of a peesee mainboard for this thing. Of course, it's difficult to find DG/UX for one, once you _have_ this Aviion. :) I've seen VAXStation 4000 systems for very reasonable (sub $100) prices, which is fine, considering how many of them are still in use. You can likely pick up free CISC AS/400s. > Perhaps a number of things: the emphasis on recycling, too many > collectors seeking collectors' items as opposed to hackish toys, sales > of scrap to china, etc. Well, it's kind of conceited to think that everyone wants to be a "computer collector" these days ;) I think the other points -- especially the recycling bit -- are right on. The solution, of course, is to find out where is your local recycling center, and to establish a relationship with somebody there. Many have no problems about selling computer-related trash, especially when they can get more for it than the could by recycling it. If you'll pay them $20 for that VAXStation 4000, you'd probably get it. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 11 months

DEC machines that can't format a disk (Was: Good Trip/Score Dec

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Not when there are _good_ techncial reasons for it (like the > fact that > the RL01 can't format a blank pack becuase to make a positioner that > could step accurately enough without reading servo bursts from the > platter would be rediculously expensive). Well, that's different. :) > But when it's done for marketing reasons (so you have to buy the > manufacturer's expensive pre-formatted floppies, as was the > case with the > RX01, etc) then yes, of course it annoys me. ...but this is what I was talking about. Didn't they have "diagnostic" programs available in some cases (to field service) that would cause some of these systems to format their own disks, anyway? I'm certain there was something to get a Qbus VAX to format hard disks -- I mean, aside from a controller that would do it in firmware -- but that's probably a little different. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 11 months

FA: HP 9845B Computer/Calculator TMG232 Item # 2026012591

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

FYI HP 9845B, located in Australia. <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2026012591>

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Re: List bifurcation

by dougq＠iglou.com

On Thursday 16 May 2002 17:14, you wrote: > > Is it just me, or has this list just become rediculously complicated? I > > still don't know where I should be posting anything. And I don't really > > care any more. If people miss out on my messages, well that's their > > problem I'm afraid. Rest assured, Tony, you're coming through loud and clear... > Sacrifice to the God of political correctness we must. Wah, Wah, Waaaaaaaah!! Mommie, mean man won't let me scream! Jeezus, do ya'll want some cheese with that whine? ============================================================ Ok, Since we're OT here anyway, I have a stack of Calcomp Digitab III digitizer tablets, 16-button wireless pucks. Several are tested and packaged for sale, and I've been getting $75 to $150 apiece for them on E-Bay. I'd be interested in some possible trades for more vintage stuff. Please contact me off-list. I also have a limtited number of Kurta tablets for the Mac, with wired pucks, but they'll be out of reach until I can get the storage unit rent caught up. Ditto the off-list expression of interest... -dq

23 years, 11 months

computer sales -- now only on e-bay??

by dougq＠iglou.com

> On Tue, 21 May 2002, Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Doc wrote: > > > > > > > I've also noticed tacit cooperation concerning eBay auctions. If I > > > >recognise a bid as made by a list member, I don't bid against them, and > > > >that seems to be the norm. > > > > > > Or, you soon realize that you shouldn't bother bidding > > > against AEK. <grin> > > So who _is_ AEK? Why, non other than "Uncle" Al Kossow... the visionary responsible for the Bitsavers Project, which is archiving as much old computer software and documentation as is humanly possible... -dq

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] Rants

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > If someone's views offend you, you can filter them off into a mailbox of their > own, and either read them or not, depending on your mood. That's your right > and privilege, and, perhaps, duty, since it certainly shouldn't be Jay's job > to accomodate everyone's individual preferences, quirks, and foibles. Granted. My error. Glen 0/0

23 years, 11 months

AppleTalk ISA card

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Anyone out there considering getting rid of an LocalTalk ISA card? I'd prefer the Apple-manufactured version if possible. Let me know off-list if you might be persuaded to part with it. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us! ---------------------

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] RE: scanners & circuit boards..

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Davison, Lee" <Lee.Davison(a)merlincommunications.com> > > > >> You can't scratch glass with metal. What you can do > >> is leave a thin trace of metal on the glass. Jewelers > >> rouge will easily remove this is nothing else will. > > This is not true. Try running your windshield wipers > without the rubber. > >All generalisations have exeptions, however it's usually the road >grit and oxides on the end of the blades that do the scratching. True but where are you going to find the really clean metal to rub on the glass? Most surfaces of metals have oxides and other material on them. I was making the point that under real world conditions, one can scratch glass with metal objects. One should not assume it is safe to rub metals on glass. If the pressure is high enough, most hardened metals can scribe glass, even though the glass is harder. This is more related to brittleness. > > And lastly, the quartz windows of the EPROMs > are harder than glass. > >As can be ceramic chip packages and the PCB itself (glass >fiber laminate). > >> I think he was talking about the glass on the scanner. >> >I was. I meant this to be in relation to the UV passing. > >Lee. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The >information contained in this email may contain information which is >confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender >and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. > > If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please >delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International >IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. > >________________________________________________________________________ >This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The >service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive >anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: >http://www.star.net.uk >________________________________________________________________________ >

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] RE: scanners & circuit boards..

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

>> You can't scratch glass with metal. What you can do >> is leave a thin trace of metal on the glass. Jewelers >> rouge will easily remove this is nothing else will. This is not true. Try running your windshield wipers without the rubber. All generalisations have exeptions, however it's usually the road grit and oxides on the end of the blades that do the scratching. And lastly, the quartz windows of the EPROMs are harder than glass. As can be ceramic chip packages and the PCB itself (glass fiber laminate). > I think he was talking about the glass on the scanner. > I was. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years, 11 months

Nice OpenVMS starter system on eBay

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Normally I wouldn't do post here about an auction I spotted on eBay, however, this would make a really killer starter system for someone wanting to try out OpenVMS. I've no idea who the seller is. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2025206674 It's an AlphaStation 200 4/233 with 256MB RAM, a 2GB & 9GB HD, and 24-Bit graphics card, as well as the OpenVMS 7.1-2 distro, and the December 2000 layered products and doc library CD's. BTW, it's been my experience that one of these systems with 256MB RAM rocks (I've got one setup almost like this one). Zane

23 years, 11 months

E&S PS-390

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Well, I looked at them, and the card cages are empty :(, so I grabbed one for an endtable and a couple boxes of 'accessories' for them, including a keyboard, twiddle box, digitizer tablets, cables, and manuals. Let me know if anyone wants some of these things, I'm asking $10/ea or less if you want >1 thing (all the cables together will probably count as 'one thing'. Even if I haven't listed it, ask me and I'll see if it was included in the three boxes of crap. There's even some VAX software I got with them on 9-track open-reel tape.. -- Pat West Lafayette, IN

23 years, 11 months

Amiga 4000 with Toaster

by mythtech＠mac.com

What is a fair price to offer for an Amiga 4000 with a Toaster installed? I really don't know Amiga's at all except for what I used of them in the studio as Toasters, but I have always wanted a Video Toaster setup of my own. I found someone offering two of them for sale/trade, but I have no idea what they are worth. Or, does anyone here have one they want to give me for cost of shipping? (I am pretty poor, so I have a feeling I will find they are worth more than I can afford) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 11 months

MicroVAX 3100/90

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

I just won a MicroVAX 3100/90 auction on Ebay... The 3100/90 has BNC and AUI network ports. What do I need to use to connect it to my twisted pair hub? Some type of adapter that connects to the AUI port? What's it called and how much should I expect to pay for one? Thanks. - Bob

23 years, 11 months

[CCTECH] Altair Assistance Request

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Erik S. Klein" <classiccmp(a)mail.vintage-computer.com> ---snip--- split octal stuff cut because already answered. ---snip--- > >Why would the address lights on the Altair not properly >correspond to the address switches being set? If I set the >switches at 1110111000000000, for instance, when I reset >then examine the light at A11 doesn?t come on (the lights >show 1110011000000000) even though I know that LED to be >functioning. You'll need to check to see if the address is getting driven to the bus with a meter, logic probe or 'scope. It may just be a bad LED or driver on the panel, it may be a bad switch or some other part of the cicuit. > >Why would the data lights ever show anything but on or off? >I sometimes get dim glows from the data LEDs. When the code is running, they blink faster than your eye see. They may appear dim when toggling fast. > >What data can I expect to be in the RAM on boot-up? Is this >answer different for Static vs. Dynamic RAM? You can't depend on boot up data in either. Most DRAMs will boot with alternating 00/FF data. Sometimes these are in blocks. Most statics tend to be more ramdom but sometimes look similar in patterns to the DRAM. If you don't know if there is RAM at a location, use the front panel controls to change values. If there is RAM there, it will hold the new value you wrote. > >What is the best way to execute the boot loader should I >locate it? Can I set the address switches to the proper >spot and run or do I need to code a simple program that will >?JMP? to the known address? I have a IMSAI but I suspect the sequence would be similar. STOP-RESET-EXAMINE-RUN, w/ address switches set to the boot address. If you do have a panel problem and can't get the address loaded properly, you could put a simple JMP into some RAM that you can access. Toggle in the JMP XXXX and then set the address switches to the JMP instruction and do the EXAMINE-RUN sequence. > >Much of my confusion might stem from the EPROMs themselves >since they may have been erased by time. I have a freshly >burned set on order which may help. I have EPROMs that are over 20 years old that are still holding data. The boot sequence is quite small and it is unlikely to be bad. From what you said earlier, I would suspect that the main problems may be incorrect switch settings or problems with the fron panel. Dwight

23 years, 11 months

Suggestions for Raw Tape Reading Under Linux?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi It may be that the bit rate isn't compatable with the controller you have. You might take an oscilliscope and compare the signals coming from the tapes. You may see differences. Dwight >From: "William von Hagen" <vonhagen(a)vonhagen.org> > >Hi. I've been trying to read in a variety of old backup cartridge tapes >as raw data so that I can write some tools to parse them (or port the >old backup software used to write them). This seems to be the easiest >way to explore old backup data from a variety of old machines without >having to fire up the machines themselves. > >Since I'm trying to do this from a Unix (Linux) box, 'dd' was the >obvious first choice, but I don't know things like the block size at >which the tapes were originally written. Ideally, I'd just like to read >raw data from the media, period. I've tried reading the tapes using 'dd' >with a variety of block sizes, but still get zero-length input files. >The drives I'm using to read the data are capabable of the densities at >which they were written, and I understand the Unix/Linux device numbers >- you can hear that the drives are working at the correct density, but >I'm still not getting data. I even wrote a little program to just read >data directly from the raw device, but don't seem to be getting anything >there either.The drives whir and whine, but I get nada. > >Any suggestions? Any utilities you'd suggest rather than 'dd'? Many of >these are non-Unix systems, so 'tar' and 'cpio' aren't appropriate. > >Thanks! > > Bill > >

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] cctalk list

by mark_k＠totalise.co.uk

Hi, I'm quite behind on reading classiccmp postings. Has the classiccmp list been moved to this new cctalk list? I was subscribed to classiccmp in digest mode, and have now been automatically subscribed to cctalk in digest mode. So far so good, except there are about 5 cctalk digests per day. Can the list admin/maintainer set things so one digest message is sent per day, instead of several smaller ones? That kind of defeats the object of having a digest version. -- Mark

23 years, 11 months

[CCTALK] cctalk list (CHANGES)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org] > Quothe Tony Duell, from writings of Sat, May 18, 2002 at > 08:23:47PM +0100: > > and doubtless somebody will therefore reply to something in > an off-topic > > way in CCTECH. Which will then annoy the CCTECHers... > Indeed. One observation is that often, what seems like a minor Um.. guys, it's moderated. You just can't post off topic stuff to it -- period, err... "full stop." ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 11 months

Godbout Econoram X control settings

by frustum＠pacbell.net

After my most recent round of Sol emulator enhancements, I'm finally getting down to adding emulation for the Helios disk system. Part of that effort is going to require me to get some binary disk images in order to make the emulator do something useful. Luckily, I happen to have a Sol stashed away along with a Helios disk system. It was kindly donated to me last summer, but it has been in storage waiting for me to have the time to rehabilitate it. I bought a used varactor and ramped up the power on the Sol itself. No caps blew, and it is now working just fine. At least, it plays TARG OK. I've also replaced the key pads and it is now much a happier than it was. I haven't tried messing with the helios system yet as it is going to require a lot more work (dusting it out, cleaning things, sanity checking it, praying like hell it doesn't need calibration after 20 years of idleness). The system has two "Econoram by Godbout" boards, specifically "Econoram X". Doing some probing of memory locations, it appears that only 48KB of the available 64 KB of SRAM is enabled (each card has 64 4Kx1 SRAM chips). 0x0000 to 0xBFFF is enabled, and the rest is disabled. Of course, part of it must be disabled because 0xC000-0xCFFF is taken up by the monitor ROM, display RAM, and scratch RAM. However, the higher parts should be OK to use. The dip switches on the boards have suggestive labels, but are too terse for me to be confident what is going on. Does anybody have docs on this or similar boards, or perhaps is better at guessing what is going on than I am? I think I understand most of it, but I'm sure I don't understand all of it. First board's dip switch settings: S1: 1: WE A = on 2: WE B = on 3: WE CL = on 4: WE CH = on 5: DIS A = off 6: DIS B = off 7: DIS C = off 8: WS = off S2: 1,2,3 = A = off, off, off 4,5,6 = B = off, off, on 7,8 = C = on, off Second board's dip switch settings: S1: 1: WE A = on 2: WE B = on 3: WE CL = on 4: WE CH = on 5: DIS A = on 6: DIS B = on 7: DIS C = off 8: WS = off S2: 1,2,3 = A = on, on, on 4,5,6 = B = on, on, off 7,8 = C = off, on So it looks like the 32 KB on each board is broken up into three banks. I'm guessing banks A and B control 8 KB blocks, and bank C is a 16 KB block (since S2 has three switches for A and B but bank C has only two switches). WE A/B/C is write enable for each bank, and DIS A/B/C is read&write enable/disable for each of the three banks. Perhaps WS is to enable a wait state. Sounds good so far, so let's collect the bank settings: 0 0 0 A1 = 0- 7, enabled 0 0 1 B1 = 8-15, enabled 1 0 C1 = 32-47, enabled 1 1 1 A2 = 56-63, disabled 1 1 0 B2 = 48-55, disabled 0 1 C2 = 16-31, enabled Does this sound reasonable? At least it is consistent with my interpretation. Does anybody know for sure what WS stands for? One disturbing thing is that the I would have expected one board to implement 0-31KB, and the other board to be used to map 32-47KB. Instead, one board does 0-15 and 32-47, while the other board does 16-31. Any idea why this might be? Finally, does anybody know if this board respects phantom disable (some other resource can claim a block of addresses and the board will silently just map out that RAM location)? Thanks. ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

23 years, 11 months

drivel

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Which DEC 3000? There were several... (the bird series -- pelican, flamingo, etc). I've used the 3000/300 (same form factor as the DECstation 5000/25), the 3000/400 (a large desktop brick), and the 3000/700 (a tower case). Yes, they are all Turbo-Channel based machines. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 11 months

AS/400 Twinax cabling

by Lists＠joules.org

I have finally got round to setting up my AS/400 and would appreciate some advice. It came with one terminal and lots of twinax cable. The terminal has a piece of twinax attached with a T piece on the end of it. There are 2 twinax ports on the back of the AS/400. How do I wire the AS/400 to the terminal? Should I just use 1 port or does it loop through the T piece and back to the other port? Should there be some sort of terminator which I don't have? TIA -- Regards Pete "Time flies like an arrow and fruit flies like a banana"

23 years, 11 months

look at the VAX 11/780 in action

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>For the 780 (and maybe 785) DEC did at one point >sell microprogramming tools. I guess someone might >still have this info, but if they do they're keeping quiet >about it! At one point, years ago, I acquired a set of the tools for doing WCS microprogramming. I may still have them somewhere in my collection, but I have not seen them for awhile. What I do still have is a copy of the WCS user's guide, with explanations of the microprogramming instructions and how to use the micro assembler/loader/debugger. I attempted to make a copy for another member of this list, but the copier damaged several pages (not badly, but I am gun-shy about trying it again, at least with auto-feed). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 11 months

VMS help

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I'm trying to mount a disk on vms and getting an error that I don't understand. I'm attempting to mount a disk (a RZ56 on DKA100:), and get the result %MOUNT-F-ILLOPT, qualifier(s) not appropriate to this device to both of my attempts to mount it: MOUNT /OVER=ID DKA100: MOUNT /FOREIGN DKA100: The drive shows up in a SHOW DEV /FULL DKA100: Disk BERNAL$DKA100:, device type RZ56, is online, file-oriented device, shareable, error logging is enabled. Error count 0 Operations completed 3023 Owner process "" Owner UIC [0,0] Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot S:RWED,O:WRED,G:WRED,W:RWED Reference count 0 Default buffer size 512 Total blocks 1299174 Sectors per track 54 Total cylinders 1604 Tracks per cylinder 15 The system came from someone else, and was in a vaxcluster (it's not anymore - I disabled joining a cluster in the boot args for VMS. I've checked in they SYSTEM account's LOGIN.COM file and didn't see any aliases setup for mount. Any ideas? -- Pat

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