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by vaxman＠earthlink.net

I apologize, but I didn't save the email that told who was taking over while Jay took a sabatical... The questions: Is the email address obfuscation in the archive up and running, and if not, when will it be? I am preparing to switch to an new email address, and don't want to provide it to the spammers directly... I'll wait until the obfuscation is in place before switching. Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? Can it be made to? I'd like to be able to announce something (like the username/password for my private FTP site), but I don't want it to live forever in the archive. It's unlikely a spider would find the announcement and I'd get a hacker trying to break in, but why risc it... Best Regards, Clint

23 years, 9 months

Apple 3 Memory Upgrade

by aw288＠osfn.org

Remember those weird RAMs I asked about a week or so back? They are from an Apple 3 memory upgrade, and being that I don't have an Apple 3, I don't need them. So... The first person with a suitable trade*, bribe, barter, or pile of cash, gets them. 32 weird chips, in a bag labelled "Tested" (for whatever that is worth). Email me off list. *Trade? I like mainframe things - books, parts, software, etc. I also need R, B, and S series DEC Flip Chips. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Jeffrey Sharp > > On Tuesday, July 9, 2002, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > > > > > No. > > > > As Frank wrote, the normal form is "X-No-Archive: yes". > > Yes. That works. > > -- > - If that does prevent a message from being archived, I still think it's a good idea to send sensitive info directly to people, and _not_ through the lists. What if (as it does happen) someone accidentally replies to that message, unedited, to the list? It'll get archived anyway. Or does the "X-No-Archive" line stay in the reply? -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 8, 19:30, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > No. As Frank wrote, the normal form is "X-No-Archive: yes". > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to > cctalk? I could live with it, but I'd really prefer not to. It's not necessary for filtering, given that several headers already have th list name in them: >From cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org Tue Jul 9 06:50:13 2002 To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org X-BeenThere: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Sender: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org Errors-To: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org X-BeenThere: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org X-Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: Classic Computer Discussion - Unmoderated <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/> These are headers from your post, originally to CCTECH, but you can see that by the time it was crossposted to CCTALK, most had become CCTALK headers. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 9 months

Memorex 9-track Drive Available - Act now!

by bill＠timeguy.com

I just found out my company is planning to scrap a Memorex tape drive, controller, and power supply, models 8222, 8224, and 8228 tomorrow (Wednesday, July 10th). It's huge and heavy and located in Lincoln, Nebraska. If you want it, speak now and I'll try to hold it for you - otherwise it's going to the scrapper tomorrow.

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

- My opinions and thoughts are inline... > From: Jeffrey Sharp > > This email contains answers to recent member questions, some new questions > for members, and news of recent changes. > > .. Many > people include email addresses in their sig blocks or introduce quoted > text > with "On mm/dd/yyyy, name <user@domain> wrote:" or similar lines. The > obfuscator doesn't obfuscate these things, so the whole feature seems > rather > worthless to me. The spam-conscious should definitely use a different > safety > method. > - Keep the obfuscator running anyway... > .... > > NEW QUESTIONS: > > Considering how vulnerable it is (see above), would anybody mind if I > turned > off the obfuscator? > - Yes. Heh, looks like I answered this before you even asked. ;) > Currently, "[CCTECH]" is prepended to all subject headers sent to cctech. > Would anyone mind if I lowercased that to "[cctech]"? The capital letters > seem to be screaming a little too much. > - Go ahead. Sounds fine to me. > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent > to > cctalk? > - Hmmm, I recall a bit of noise when it was used originally. Isn't that why it was killed before? Personally, I don't mind it, though. > What are our opinions on the two-lists solution? > - So far, so good. > Cctech isn't currently moderated. In fact, it never has been AFAIK. It > seems > to have stayed on-topic without moderation. Are we ready for moderation to > be turned on, or should we consider alternatives? > - Keep it as-is. The threat of moderation seems to be working okay. If it does get out of hand, then turn on the moderation. > RECENT CHANGES > > ... > > The date shown for archived posts has been changed from the 'sent' date > (what the author says the date is) to the 'resent' date (what the > classiccmp > server thinks the date is). This will protect our archive from the people > whose computers think it is 1970. > - Ahhh. Consistency is a good thing. :) Overall, many thanks to those who put in much time keeping these lists running smoothly. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 9 months

VS 4000vlc; Was Re: Goodwill Rulez!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> BTW, I can't get any response at the boot monitor. HELP, SHO DEV, ?, >all the stuff I'm used to gets ILL CMD. BOOT works - VMS 5.5 > Are the console commands different from the 4000/60? Since BOOT works and HELP does not, my guess is that the security password has been activated and you either need to type LOGIN followed by the correct 16 hex-digit code (which I assume you don't know) or you need to pop the lid and do the magic to circumvent the password (which I cannot remember but will look up tonight if you need it). Antonio

23 years, 9 months

Goodwill Rulez!

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. I was at the Goodwill Computer works today - big, big haul. Picked up: A Commodore cassette deck, in the box, for the Commodore 128D, with keyboard, that I grabbed Saturday to go with the Amiga 1080 display Bill gave me A 1541 floppy drive for same An Atari SF354 floppy, in the box, looks new. Tidbits and cables. I think one is the QuickTake-to-PC cable I needed. Will check pinouts later. Oh, Yeah! A TRS-80 trackpad. I think I gotta go back tomorrow for the Model 4 to go with it. Best of all. I was walking by the front counter, asked the guy "Are you holding that pile for someone?" He says "No, somebody just donated it. It's some kind of terminal. If you want it, you can take it all for $5." So I took the VT320, the LK402 (?!) keyboard and the VAXstation 4000vlc they were sitting on. WooHoo! Doc

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] Entering single-user mode on Pro/Venix?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

Still playing with my Professional 3xx boxes. Managed to clean one memory board of 8264 chips; will populate with 50256s when I locate my bag of 16 pin sockets. On the software side, I managed to get my RD51 with Pro/Venix 1.0 up and running on a 640KB Pro350. It was a gift some years ago; the donor even brought it by my house - no pickup! He didn't recall the root password, so I stuck it in the back of the basement and only recently dug it out. So... even though I have the manuals, it's not obvious how to get a Pro to enter single-user mode. Any suggestions? Barring that, I suppose I could wipe and re-install, but I'd like to poke around to see what's on the disk first. Thanks, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 9 months

OT: eBay to buy PayPal - yet another ruination of a good thing :(

by foo＠siconic.com

I just saw on the news that eBay is buying PayPal for US$1.5 billion. Good for the folks at PayPal, but this does not bode well for PayPal customers if eBay's history of trying to wring profits out of it's customers in creative ways is any indication. It also does nothing for competition. This sucks. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 9 months

Wanted: TU10 brackets

by owad＠applefritter.com

I'm looking for the brackets/mechanisms to mount my TU10 in the rack. Having never seen them, I don't have much of an idea what they're like, but it looks like two hinges. I'll buy or trade. Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

23 years, 9 months

List Management Q/A

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > No. Um, I think the canonical spelling is "X-No-Archive:". You might want to try another test with that. > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to > cctalk? Appended or prepended? Either way, yes, I mind. I'll deal with it, but I'd rather not have to. And in contrast to Chris, I'm not at all sympathetic to people who say they need this to sort their received mail; the list provides other headers that are usable for selecting cctalk mail. For example, "Sender: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org". -Frank McConnell

23 years, 9 months

NOT paypal puns (VT-1200)

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I managed to pick up a couple of VT-1200's/VX10A-AA's (no kb/mouse/etc) today at Purdue Salvage. If anyone wants one, give me an offer. I'd like to keep at least one to use. Also, does anyone know what sync rate they use? I'd like to be able to use them with something besides my IBM POWERdisplay 20 if that's possible (and besides the 'real' monitor that goes with them. -- Pat

23 years, 9 months

Bernoulli drives was:Re: What is this?

by edick＠idcomm.com

One weakness that Iomega products in general, but the Bernoulli drives specifically, had, was that the media would develop defects which it was difficult to map out. The large drives of the early-mid '80's with FD media in their cartridges came with software that could, to limited extent, fix these defects or map them out. The later rigid media drives, which I don't believe IOMEGA manufactured, came with no such utility, and the still-current, though probably obsolete, JAZ drives come with a utility set that doesn't really do much. I've used nearly every version of these devices, from the 8" to the 3-1/2", and I have to say that I've never encountered a product line that was as disappointing. Every one of them had a set of features that looked good in the marketing literature but never met the mark. I've got a basement full of 'em. Dick -----Original Message----- From: no <oliv555(a)arrl.net> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Bernoulli drives was:Re: What is this? >Curt Vendel wrote: >> Sounds like the good old original Bournelli Box data cartridges.... first >> removal hard drives for PC's.... I remember working on those beasties.... >> the original design had an issue with the power board assembly and the >> capacitors used to explode. They were packaged into IBM XT type cases and >> when the caps blew it sounded like someone hit the case with the metal >> baseball bat... when the case was opened, underneath the cover would be the >> marks where the cap blew out.... of course this "feature" was fixed in later >> versions ;-) >> >> >> >> Curt >> > for those interested in this sort of thing... > ... there are 3 dual bournoulli 90 drives sitting at the >290/Goodwill here in NW houston. At least 4 of the drives had cartridges >in them > >-nick > > >

23 years, 9 months

Fw: equipment available (possibly!)

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Came across this a few minutes ago... Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gunshannon" <bill(a)triangle.cs.uofs.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: OT: equipment available (possibly!) > I realize this is kind of off topic, but I also figure the people > here are the ones most likely to be able to make use of this, so.... > > As part of a package deal I have come into possesion of some rather > large pieces of Compaq gear. I don't see us ever being able to use > it, much less actualy need it and I don't see the boss wanting to > store it as space is premium around here, That means I may be getting > rid of it at real bargain prices (especially being as I have no idea > what its value might be!) > > I am sure everyone is on the edge of their seats right now, so here > goes. > > I have two huge boxes labeled "StorageWorks". > One measures 31x35x67 and the other 23.5x35x44. > I have what I assume are chassis w/power supply that go into these. > There are no disks or sleds with these. :-( > > I also have a BA350 containing 2 HSJ40's. > > I also have two of the older style DEC racks labeled SC008-AC > each containing a pair of boxes labeled SC008-AB. > > And cables and terminators for said boxes galore!! > > If my boss says, "get rid of it." is there likely to be anyone > interested or should I be contacting a scrap yard?? > > This stuff was all in use until about a month ago. > > Do people like Island ever buy old stuff?? > > Sorry for bothering everybody, but maybe someone elses needs > will intersect with my good fortune. > > > bill > > -- > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves > bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton | > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to >cctalk? As long as it doesn't cause replies to get into a battle over the prepending being before or after the Re: which rapidly turns into a subject line of "[cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk]". Personally, I hate ALL list prepending for just this reason. I haven't seen one that works well with replies (probably because email clients battle how a reply is handled. I constantly see long threads turn into "RE: Re: RE: Re:"). Of course, I can live without the prepending just fine because my email client sorts the emails for me, so I don't need it to see in the subject where something is from. I do sympathize with those that are using clients that don't presort. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 9 months

Versatec Board

by edick＠idcomm.com

The only context in which I've run into Versatec of that time frame is as a maker of electrostatic plotters. These were essentially big laser printers, albeit shaped a little differently than the desktop variety, much larger, and VERY costly. They're just a memory now, though. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Versatec Board >> This board is approximately 14" or 15" square and has two edge >> connectors on the bottom approximately 6' - 7" long; I don't recall what > >That does sound like a board from a DG Nova... > >> the Nova boards look like. While it has some test points on it, it does >> not have any connectors to the outside world. > >Hmmm... THat's strange. But didn't some Nova cards route the I/O >connections through the main backplane???? > >-tony >

23 years, 9 months

Test Message, Ignore

by lists＠subatomix.com

Testing 'X-NoArchive'.

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] Test Message, Ignore

by lists＠subatomix.com

Testing list configuration changes. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

23 years, 9 months

cctalk digest, Vol 1 #76 - 40 msgs

by mtapley＠swri.edu

>From: "Bruce Ray" <bkr(a)WildHareComputers.com> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: eBay to buy PayPal - yet another ruination of a good thing :( >Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:41:07 -0600 > >...or sounds like an opportunity for an emerging new competitive business - >SellamPal. ;-) No, no. "PayToSellam!" - Mark

23 years, 9 months

Shameless Plug Alert

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Well, Lord knows I tried to subscribe. Several times. The classiccmp.org >mailer doesn't seem to want to recognize 'majordomo' as a valid user. >Anyway... Since this was the 2nd person to complain that majordomo isn't a valid address, I thought something might be amiss. Sure 'nuff, the subscribe info on www.classiccmp.org was never updated to reflect the new mailing list server info. It still tells you to send a message to majordomo(a)classiccmp.org. I know Jay in on 'vacation' right now, so there is probably nothing that can be done. Anyone else have the power to update the web site? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 9 months

Shameless Plug Alert

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hi, gang, Well, Lord knows I tried to subscribe. Several times. The classiccmp.org mailer doesn't seem to want to recognize 'majordomo' as a valid user. Anyway... Shameless plug: I have an Intel MCS-85 development board with manual and schematics up for auction on E-pay. Here's the link if you're interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036649143 The most recent bid is around $25.00. Thanks for putting up with me and my occasional ads. ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

23 years, 9 months

Success story (VT1200)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Success story. Got the VT1200, took the mouse apart, fixed it, hooked up the VRE01 flatpanel, got it tweaked and working.. Got a MMJ and a DB9 adapter from Doc Shipley, they work fine (serial console). Went to Goodwill, got a 12port (gak!) 10baseT hub (old D-Link) with a 10base2 uplink on the back. Got cables. Got home. No 10b2 Ts and terminators. Called friends. Friend had a box of them, left four Ts and two terminators on my porch this morning. Hooked everything up... mrbill@chip:~> ping -s vt1200 PING vt1200: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=0. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=1. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=2. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=3. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=4. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=5. time=7. ms ^C ----vt1200 PING Statistics---- 6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 7/7/7 mrbill@chip:~> xdpyinfo name of display: 192.168.123.250:0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: DECWINDOWS DigitalEquipmentCorp. vendor release number: 11 maximum request size: 16384 bytes motion buffer size: 0 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order: LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 1 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 86, maximum 251 focus: window 0x10000e, revert to None number of extensions: 1 ServerManagementExtension default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: dimensions: 1024x864 pixels (260x219 millimeters) resolution: 100x100 dots per inch depths (1): 1 root window id: 0x8006b depth of root window: 1 plane number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap: 0x80066 default number of colormap cells: 2 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 1 options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO largest cursor: 16x16 current input event mask: 0x0 number of visuals: 1 default visual id: 0x80065 visual: visual id: 0x80065 class: StaticGray depth: 1 plane available colormap entries: 2 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 1 bits Unfortunately: mrbill@chip:~> xterm Warning: Cannot convert string "5x7" to type FontStruct xterm: unable to locate a suitable font ugh. I did NOT want to have to mess with remote fonts, considering I have ZERO documentation for this thing... I just wish it had SSH built-in. Cool and useful, regardless.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

Fw: It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

----- Original Message ----- From: Keys To: cctech@classiccmp Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ? Check out this Lisa 2 that went for $1500. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check out this Lisa 2 that went for $1500' http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

23 years, 9 months

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