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by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Slightly OT but.. Two Madge Smart 16/4 PCI ringnode cards. Untested. Anyone? Cheers, Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years, 8 months

WTS: MCA NICs & PS/2 Model 70s

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got a bunch of (8) MCA NICS, and four PS/2 Model 70s with a NIC each in them. Only problem -- some of the computers dont have hard drives, some dont have floppy drives, and NONE have memory. All of the NICs are SMC/WDC cards that have both AUI and 10BaseT connectors on them. I'm interested in DEC and RS/6000 hardware, or money. Make offers if interested. -- Pat

23 years, 8 months

SCSI-View SCSI bus analyzer?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone here familar with the sv-1600 SCSI-View SCSI bus analyzer made by VeriSoft? I found one today. It's a card that fits in a 16 bit PC-AT socket. I'm looking for a manual and software for it. Joe

23 years, 8 months

Thanks for the Lisa XL Info

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Forgot who it was that alerted me to the XL on eBay for $20, but wanted to say thanks as I won it for the $20. Now if you can just find me a Lisa 1, then I will have a complete collection of the Lisa's. Oh yea the same $20 would be nice too. :-) On a little different note I was talking to my daughter about the Lisa 1 manual going for $350 on eBay and she reminded me of the fact that I tossed about 10 of those manuals (she took them to Half Price books to sell and only got about a nickel apiece for them) back in 1995 when I was closing down my shop to move to MN. Oh well you never know. :-(

23 years, 8 months

VMS question

by dittman＠dittman.net

> >>You can open a file to append, in which case the version number isn't > >>changed. Of course, typical VMS applications open the log file and never > >>close it and assuming you code it correctly, other applications can read > >>the log file. > > > >Unfortuantly at least version 1.9 of Samba (yeah, I know it's ancient, but > >it works for me) has the bad habit of creating a LOT of log files. I > >finally ended up creating a batch job to clean up after it. > > > > Zane > > Hey, I have an unused distribution of "rumba" which claims to > do what samba does but on VMS. Has anybody ever used it? > Is it any good? I've never used Rumba or Samba on VMS. I use either Pathworks or Advanced Server. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

23 years, 8 months

VMS question

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

VMS has a distinctive that when you open a file for write or append, a copy of that file is made with a higher "Version" number. What happens then if you have a "log" type file, the OS (or some application) open it from time to time to add info. Mass copies of this file?

23 years, 8 months

classic computer rescue happy story

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Actually, it's not a rescue of sorts, but a revival-- Got an email from a guy that runs a machine shop. Seems they use a PS/2 model 60 to run a lathe. They were having problems getting it working and were out of production. Turns out they are located about an hour away from me. We corresponded and a deal was struck and the following day a guy drove down to meet me and got two replacement model 60s from me for a cool $150. They wanted to keep using the same system since it was a package of some sort they bought quite some time ago and upgrading it would cost $10k. Kinda neat to see old machines still working. With it being a PS/2, I'm not surprised especially being in a machine shop. For those others that run computer museums, it might be wise to state your location. It was lucky he was located in the same state as me.

23 years, 8 months

Blowing Up Old Computers

by dittman＠dittman.net

> > Tandy M100, M102, M200. Olivetti M10. And whatever the Kyocera version > > was called. (OK, they contain an 8085 CPU, which was originally an Intel > > design, but I don't think that's the normal meaning of 'Wintel') > > These are Wintel, but they are MStel. The ROM was written by > Microsoft. I meant "These aren't Wintel..." -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

23 years, 8 months

[Fwd: [6502ag] Re: Using a 8255]

by dogbert＠mindless.com

Ross Archer wrote: >r65c02p2 wrote: > > >>--- In 6502ag@y..., "rey_bbs" <rey_bbs@y...> wrote: >> >> >>>Is there a way to use 8255 in a 6502 computer instead of a 6522? >>> >>> >>Howdy Guys, >> >>I've read the list discussion regarding 8255's and the 6502 and >>thought I'd pipe up. I use 8255's with 6502 whenever I need lots >>of I/O bits per package count. Interface is rather simple. I also use >>NEC part Nr. D71055C which is a 8255 pin/program compatible CMOS >>component that will work to 10 MHz. Also using 82C55 for battery >>powered systems. All work quite reliably. >> >>The /RD and /WR signals for the 8255 I generate this way: >> >>/RD is 6502 R/W NAND Phi2 >>/WR is 6502 INVERTED-R/W NAND Phi2 >> >>Easily accomplished with single quad NAND...I generally use these >>same strobes for memory access and other buss connected device access. >> >> Regards All, >> Brian >> Hi, and thanks for that. The cool thing is you've just generated Z80-compatible strobes. Don't forget to use that last NAND gate left in your 7400 to invert the reset signal from 6502 pin 40 into 8255 pin 35. If not inverted, the 6502 RESET will hold the 8255 in reset indefinitely, and if omitted, may not come up 100%. Correct? -- Ross >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>6502ag-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> > > > >

23 years, 8 months

What about DOS-11? (was: Does anybody care about XXDP?)

by aek＠spies.com

> I haven't heard much talk about DOS-11 or DOS/BATCH (same thing?) At one point there were two separate products that were combined to create DOS/BATCH. It was sold until the late 70's but deemphasized in favor of RT-11. I have a bunch of DECtapes of this material queued up to be read in the next few months. The one document that I'm missing was the companion to the DOS/BATCH handbook that was the sys admin guide which describes the system generation process. A copy of a DOS/BATCH distribution tape that John Wilson and I read has been forwarded to Bob Supnik. Hopefully there's still someone left who would be willing to give permission for its release similar to that given for the version of RT that he has.

23 years, 8 months

Complete HP 150 available in Ft. Pierce, Florida

by vcf＠siconic.com

There is a complete HP 150 with software and documentation available in the Ft. Pierce, Florida, area. Shipping costs only. Might involve beauracratic red tape. If interested, please contact me directly. <sellam(a)vintage.org> -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 8 months

OT: Parity memory swap...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

---Please reply directly to me--- Apologies for being off-topic, but considering the number of machines here that use 72-pin parity memory, hopefully someone can help me out. Thank you much for your patience :) I have 2 16x36 (64MB each) Parity 72 pin SIMMs... The sticker on them says... 02/27/97 1538 202639 16Mx36-6SIMST Void If Removed ...they are 1 3/16" high, 36 chips on each. I'm looking to trade these for a set of either 4 8x36 (32MB ea) or 8 4x36 (16MB ea) SIMMs. Of course, as usual, if it's cheap enough, I'll buy some too. Either way, none of my machines really like the 64MB SIMMs, so I at least want to trade those out. My Prioris HX MP/2 5150 (dual P-150s!) when I upgrade it to 4 CPUs, will use 128 bit interleaved memory, but I need to add 8 SIMMs at a time... BTW, I was just thinking... I have 608MB worth of Parity memory, in pairings... 2 - 64 - 16x36 6 - 32 - 8x36 12 - 16 - 4x36 12 - 8 - 2x36 Probably could trade these for full sets of either 8x36 or 4x36 SIMMs also. 512MB would be either 16 32MB SIMMs, or 32 16MB SIMMs. And no, I'm not looking to sell any. I have more machines (AXPpci33, Multia(s), PC64, SparcStation LX) that will use the rest of the RAM chips :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

23 years, 8 months

Blowing Up Old Computers

by mythtech＠mac.com

>> Was the first Mac Laptop released before 1992 (which would make it >> on-topic here)? > >1989 if my factoidal memory cells are functioning properly. Correct, 1989, discontinued in 1991, so it was actually no longer available before the classic cutoff. And along with it, there are of course the line of Outback Mac "clone" laptops that predated the Apple Mac Portable. They were Mac clone units, but lacked the needed ROM chip. It was designed for you to take the ROM >from a Mac Plus, put it into the Outback, and then it had a special cable/connector that allowed it to dock to the Plus so you could share the ROM between the two. I've always wanted one of those laptops... someday I'll track one down (ideally I either want it fresh with cables, so I have to install the rom >from a Plus, or I want it with its slave Plus and cables). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 8 months

Blowing Up Old Computers

by mythtech＠mac.com

> the line of Outback Mac "clone" laptops Sorry, OutBOUND, not OutBACK (I guess I had Subaru cars on my mind) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 8 months

Test please ignore

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

D + At least there aren't MIME attachments, but it's still HTML! NOTE: the "<pre>" and "</pre>" are so that HTML compliant mail programs won't hide what he has written. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: <pre> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>Test please ignore</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> This is a test ..... Blah, blah, blah Ram 2002 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us.  It is confidential and may be legally privileged.   If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else.   Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use. </BODY> </HTML> </pre>

23 years, 8 months

[OT] Re: Outhouse Text Setting

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > > "Common Sense"?!? > That would imply that anyone, even without current expertise, > should be able to figure out how to use it safely. Okay, true, I stand corrected. > It IS possible to use Outhouse (aka MICROSOFT Virus Transfer Protocol) > with reasonable safety. But what it requires is not "common > sense", but a > reasonable understanding of the problems involved, and of the design > failings of MICROS~1 products. That's my basic point. A basic understanding of the issues, and options, with Outlook (incl. Express) can secure it some. That, and a good firewall & virus scanner... > Somebody that I know who is computer clueless, thought that > the "Preview > Pane" was a Microsoft SECURITY feature! She assumed that it > was like a > door peephole, and provided a way to SAFELY see what was in > an attachment > in isolation! I removed 30 copies of Klez from her machine. > > Was that a lack of "common sense"? NO. It was an assumption > that MICROS~1 > had "reasonable" security designed into their products. You > would have to > know something about MICROS~1 for that to be a lack of "common sense". Well, I think the common sense part would apply (pretty much) to the "not taking candy from strangers" idea. But with the latest crop of virii (exploiting MS security holes), you don't even need to open an attachment anymore to get whacked. Or is it healthy suspicion of unsolicited e-mail? :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

23 years, 8 months

[OT] Re: Outlook Text Setting [was: Differences between the.. .]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

-----Original Message----- From: Eric Smith [mailto:eric@brouhaha.com] > Personally, I feel that if you use common sense, Outlook can be > _almost_ as safe as Pine. Not even close! Example: Outlook will run Javascript in the preview pane. The problem is that when MS designed Outlook, they gave not the slightest bit of concern to security. Since then they've patched some of the worst problems, but they haven't fixed the overall design. As far as I can tell, their recent claim to be focusing on security is just lip service. I try to get all my clients to switch to Mahogany, which is free software, or Eudora if they insist on using commercial software. http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/ Eric - You're kinda right, but missed one thing. I said "use common sense". That would include disabling the preview pane, as it is a known security issue. :) Alongside not opening unknown attachments, adjusting the security zone settings, disabling VB scripting (and all other scripting) etc... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

23 years, 8 months

Outlook Text Setting [was: Differences between the...]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

From: Ram Meenakshisundaram [mailto:RMeenaks@OLF.COM] Hi Thilo, ..... SOrry about the HTML, its outlooks fault... Cheers, Ram FYI - I just looked here in my Outlook 2000. If you go into the Tools menu, select Options, then click on the Mail Format tab, at the top you should see an option that says "See in this message format:" There you can select Plain Text. But that doesn't change the format when you're replying to a message. And/or, if your creating/replying to a message, if you go into the Format menu (in the same message composition window) you can change it to Plain Text for that specific message. I use Outlook for composing messages. If your using Word to compose the e-mail, I suggest you change that in the "Tools - Options - Mail Format" window. If you have a specific question about this, e-mail me directly. :) Personally, I feel that if you use common sense, Outlook can be _almost_ as safe as Pine. Too bad it's Microsoft that's developing and supporting it. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

23 years, 8 months

Cruftiness rating

by meltie＠myrealbox.com

I saw this link on Slashdot on Monday, thought it was pretty funny. It's a measure of how much cruft a Windows PC accumulates throughout its lifetime. Funny to laugh at, but not on topic, you say. Well, The Register is carrying the story and a plea of help from its author: "However we would like your input. A community effort is required to produce MacOS, POSIX-compliant versions, and touch wood, versions for PalmOS, phones and *even VAXes too*." Input? Original link: http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=7453/ddj0208q/0208q.htm El Reg: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/26475.html alex -- Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching.

23 years, 8 months

Nigerian Scam

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Do the police care about the Nigerian Scam? Is there anything they can even do? NOTE: This was sent to me personally, NOT to classiccmp. But I can't remember if anyone even cares any more and I should just toss it?????? ================================================ Email:victorowode@mail.com Dear Sir, I am Mr.victor owode. Bank Manager of Diamond Bank of Nigeria, Lagos Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you. On June 6, 1997, [Snip - not much point to have the rest] ================================================= I can't remember what advice was given last time - just toss it or since September 11th, are the police so bogged down with real problems? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 8 months

Non-Intel Laptops

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

> > >I think the Digital > > >AlphaBook is more than 10 years old too - this being the only "old" > > >laptop I'd pay real money for. > > > > I have one... at least at work... I've been using it recently to > > do some testing. Linux runs on it just fine... > > Having just acquired a DECstation 5000 (MIPS) as well as a DEC 3000 > (Alpha), I'd love to know more about the AlphaBook. Can't find much > on the web apart from companies who are selling memory upgrades for > it. I doubt that the alphabook is more than 10 years old. My thinkpad N40 is from 1994 and surely the alphabook is faster than 50MHz and thus younger? According to google it has a 233MHz 21066A and according to my memory it should have something like a 166MHz processor, but maybe there were different versions. There's also a HP-UX version, the Precisionbook, which is very similar to the Alphabook. A bit more collectible is this one, I forgot to bid :( http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2042227517&rd=1 Also look out for the RS/6000 thinkpads and the Silicon Graphics laptops (probably only sold to the military or something like that, I've never seen one for sale). Sparcbooks are just too common :). greetings, Michiel ps. For finding information on Alphabooks use www.archive.org on the tadpole and the rdi site.

23 years, 8 months

Test please ignore

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

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23 years, 8 months

Differences between the Double Eurocard and VME

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

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23 years, 8 months

Geek Joke

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

This came across the Virginia Tech Technical Support list server today: There are 10 types of people in the world.... Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

23 years, 8 months

Anyone Care About RT-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 I have now finished the verification tasks that I feel are needed to ensure that I am producing correct images. I will be making some copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ I have finally been able to reproduce all 3 CD labels. The 2 RSX-11 labels are quite well done. I hope to improve the RT-11 label - it has all the information, but the label is about 1/4" off centre. If I have not been able to obtain a better copy of the RT-11 CD labels by the time the CDs are being made, then I will just use what I have. I have also been able to get to the post office and check a sample package for the postage. The total amount in US dollars (all inquiries but one have been from the US) will be: ($ 5.00 / $ 9.00 / $ 12.00) for (1 / 2 / 3) CDs when I use standard CD-R blanks. In addition, I understand that Black Label CDs have a longer shelf life and are available at Business Depot. If anyone wants those instead, add $ 1.00 for each CD that you are requesting. Thus that price range will be ($ 6.00 / $ 11.00 / $ 15.00) Please include your mailing address!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In general, I will regard any funds you send as a gift so that if anyone really can't afford the CDs, please state why that is so. Outside of the US, probably add about $ 1.00 should be sufficient. If you are receiving this notice via a public list, I will send you my mailing address when you ask me to burn the CDs. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 8 months

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