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by vance＠neurotica.com

I'm back. Peace... Sridhar

23 years, 7 months

OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>One that I found may be worth money, it is a Disney Snow White record >set :-) If complete, maybe, but don't be surprised if it fetches less than you think (well, maybe with eBay you'll get a good price). I bought a small stack (5 or 6) of Disney 78's at a flea market a few years ago. Although none were complete, and none were in mint condition... I only paid $20 for the bundle, and got a large stack (30 or so) of 45's in the deal too. Then again, maybe I just got a steal (all the guy was selling was records, so I assume he had some clue as to what he was selling) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

QWERTY/Dvorak (was //c+ switch settings)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Sellam asked: >Who the hell uses Dvorak? Yo. >A very interesting and unique feature to have >on a computer (anyone else know of a computer that had a switch that would >instantly change the keymapping between QWERTY and Dvorak?) Now this is *cool*!. Why didn't Apple include a Dvorak keymapping with the early Mac's, if they knew enough to do this in hardware with the //c+? Oh well, it's in there now, and ElectricDvorak exists for the earlier macs. I use it, love it, and strongly recommend it to anyone meeting the following criteria: can spend about 2 weeks of 30 minutes/day to practice -AND- ( is not a touch typist -OR- has any problem with RSI) It does, fairly reliably, generate a 50% speed-up in typing, with fewer errors. My wife, a qwerty touch-typist who then learned dvorak touch, reports that it does *not* interfere with qwerty touch-typing - she switches from one to the other with the only symptom being that she types about 30 seconds of gibberish before "locking in" on the new layout. I can't report from personal experience, because I'm a qwerty hunt-n-peck and dvorak touch. I'm at least 100% faster dvorak. I do recommend that you learn dvorak touch, because that'll accentuate the advantages of it, and because that way you don't need to rearrange the keycaps. A very useful demo is to have a Dvorak typist type while the "key caps" panel is open on a Mac. It's *amazing* how the little black dots seem to almost all flash on the home row... Available in modern Mac OS (as the dv or dq layouts, dq recommended because that way ctrl-x (cut), ctrl-c (copy), and ctrl-v (paste) are still one-handed operations). Available in modern Windows machines, look in the keyboard control panel. If you want to run it on an old Mac, let me know and I'll fix you up with ElectricDvorak (for sys 6.0.8 or later, I think) or the ElectricDvorak layout for more recent systems. - Mark

23 years, 7 months

CDC serial card for SGI...

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Hi! I've just aquired a CDC 6-port serial card for my Personal Iris 4D/30. The model number might be CD23/3608, the ROM is labeled `CD83/3608-FW01 240757 V1.007 COPYRIGHT 1990 CENTRAL DATA CORP'. Anyone have a lead on the switch & jumper settings, or IRIX drivers? It looks like the ports can be set to either RS232A, RS232B or RS422. (I should look up the differences between A & B. I just donated a TI expansion chassis to Merle with a RS232B card in it) It also appears that the RAM can be upgraded from 16K to 64K, and it will take an EPROM of 64K (installed), 128K, 256K, or 512K. It should be a lot of fun to play with, I hope I can get it running. Built pretty good too, only turned-pin sockets. Bob

23 years, 7 months

OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>It grinds a new surface all right, it grinds the surface right off! I've never seen this thing but just a thought: were you grinding the wrong surface (seriously)? I think things would have to be pretty bad for me to use a grinding product on a CD. I do have what is essentially a soft pad (just to remove dust and prints and suchlike >from the surface) and I have seen various "CD restorer" kits (these seem to be mostly fluids that claim to fill in the scratches and prevent them from interfering with the data readback ... I'm not sure I believe that!) Antonio

23 years, 7 months

VMS stuff...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Quick question, does anyone know where to get the associated install kits to > go with the OpenVMS Hobbyist License PAKs? In order to run VMS on these > classic VAXen (3100/m76, etc...) I need a resource for the layered products. > ( macro32/64, pascal, etc...). > > Thanks, in advance, for the info! > > Mike N. The word on comp.os.vms is that the new Hobbyist CD's will be ready real soon now. Montagar software is sold out of the V7.2 VAX Hobbyist CD's, and the new ones should be V7.3. Your other options are to get something off of ePay, or to buy the CD's direct from Compaq/HP (tends to be very expensive). Personally, I use a combination of all three sources. Zane

23 years, 7 months

VMS stuff...

by mlnealey＠earthlink.net

Hi All, Quick question, does anyone know where to get the associated install kits to go with the OpenVMS Hobbyist License PAKs? In order to run VMS on these classic VAXen (3100/m76, etc...) I need a resource for the layered products. ( macro32/64, pascal, etc...). Thanks, in advance, for the info! Mike N.

23 years, 7 months

id this Digital card?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found this while scrounging this past weekend. It's marked "Digital" and "LG Controller" and "5016948 01 F1". Besides plenty of SSI ICs, it contains an 8255, 8 27256 EPROMs and an Intel 80186 and a 50 pin ribbon cable header. It measures 11 1/2" deep x 10" wide and looks similar to a Multibus card with one wide and one narrow card edge connector. (the wide connector is only used for ground). I searched the on-line DEC Field Guide and Google but didn't find anything that sounded like it. Joe

23 years, 7 months

Looking to program a N82S181

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Bruce Thanks for the reply. I've found two people that have a DATA IO that takes these. I sent off for the ones that Jameco has in their catalog and it looks like they are fast enough for the application I have ( Olivetti M20 w/ Z8000 ). The 1K ones I got are Nationals and the 2K ones are Phillips. I'm still trying to figure out the PROM from the machine. There are some parts that don't make sense. The PROM is used for address mapping. Once I get it figured out, I can do the remapping I need to do. Later Dwight >From: "Bruce Lane" <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> > >Hi, Dwight, > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 26-Aug-02 at 17:45 Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >>Hi >> Is there anyone that is in the silicon valley area >>that can program N82S181's? > > I'm about 800 or so miles north (southeast of Seattle), but I can program those if you don't mind doing mail order. > >>Also, does anyone have >>a source for or N82S181C parts? > > Yikes... No idea on that one. That particular part came from Signetics, and Signetics was bought out many moons ago by Phillips. > > You might try plugging the device number into the Google search engine and see what happens. > > My programming rates are on my web site at http://www.bluefeathertech.com/devices.html > > Let me know if you want to do the programming. > > Thanks much. > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, >Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com >ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com >"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior >to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk) > >

23 years, 7 months

Changes

by rhb57＠vol.com

Had been un0subb'd for whatever reasons for a moth or two now and went to the Classiccmp.org site anmd see that all the off-topic, on-topic has been cured with a simple system (well maybe not simple for the admin anyway) and so far "I like". For now I'll likely lurk the list and see how things have changed rather than going back to regular conversation. I do like the changes so far, hopefully it will be just as nice between the 2 versions of the list.

23 years, 7 months

OT: '94 power mac looking for a home

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, well, 2 years off-topic, anyway. A co-worker of mine is trying to find a good, preferably working home for a 1994 Power Mac. Send applications to me or sdykes(a)datasys.swri.edu . Sandy's not looking for any money for the machine, but has fond memories of it and wants to see it put someplace where it won't get trashed. Museums get preference, but let one of us know if you are interested. - Mark

23 years, 7 months

Quick intro and requests

by jfrim＠idirect.com

Hello, Just a quick introduction... My name's Justin, and I've been collecting old computers for quite a while now. Just joined the list today. :) Now for a requests: Among my collection is an NEC ProSpeed 286 laptop computer, which seems to be in full working condition. The only problem is I have no manuals, drivers, or utilities for it. I couldn't find anything on the internet despite extensive searching, and contacting NEC support as well as scouring through the NEC FTP site. My specific problems are I can't switch to the external video output, or activate the serial port, parallel port, or internal modem (which I think is 2400 bps). Second, I have a 486 Philips P 3464 server tower, which I think runs at 25 MHz but I'm not completely sure. Likewise, I don't have any software or documentation for it. Fortunately, I do have the key which was conveniently stuck in the keyswitch when I picked up the computer! And although it looks like it has a ROM based BIOS setup complete with a debugger, I have no idea how to use it's arcane interface and I can't even get the computer to boot from a hard drive! If anyone has any information on these computers, drivers, utilities, setup programs, etc, please let me know! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Justin

23 years, 7 months

trailing-edge.com

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

www.trailing-edge.com (and it's subordinates, like simh.trailing-edge.com) has been unresponsive for about a day now. Does anyone know if this is just temporary, or a permanent situation?

23 years, 7 months

QWERTY/Dvorak (was //c+ switch settings)

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Now this is *cool*!. Why didn't Apple include a Dvorak keymapping with the >early Mac's, if they knew enough to do this in hardware with the //c+? Oh >well, it's in there now, and ElectricDvorak exists for the earlier macs. I'm not sure when it first appeared, but they DID offer alternate key mappings on the early Macs. I know for sure they were available in System 6. Dvorak was just one of a few alternate maps (most dealt with international keyboards). I think this showed up VERY early in the Mac System Software (may have been there from the begining, but I'm not really sure). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

SGI Indigo..

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 31, 8:02, Jeff Hellige wrote: > > > I also have a rebadged Logitech mouse, model# M-S43, SGI > >> part# 063-0010-001, that is dark gray, almost black in color. > I put a query on Usenet concerning the mouse and I got a > reply back stating that it had shipped with the 230/330/550 line of > workstations, as well as being shown in some product shots of the > Octane2. Ah, that makes sense. I've never paid much attention to those funny Intel things that SGI plasyed with for a while, but AFAIR some of them did have that sort of colour scheme. I wondered if the mouse had been from a rebadged machine, but 230/330/550 sounds more likely. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 7 months

Epson Action Laser II spare parts

by wienke_geoff＠msn.com

We are looking for a few spare parts: paper guide output tray paper support Have 2 units - now with broken components. Looking for a source to buy these parts. Regards, Geoff wienke_geoff(a)msn.com

23 years, 7 months

OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>There's a product called "Disc Doctor" that's supposed to clean >mold/mildew from vinyl LPs, as well as other aspects of cleaning them; >from what I've read, this cleaning solution was created by a chemist >who spent years researching and creating it. Don't confuse this with the "Disc Doctor" for CDs. The CD thing will destroy your discs. It is a hand crank unit that the CD clips into, and comes with a spray on chemical. You are supposed to use it with badly scratched or dirtied CDs. Spray the fluid on, clip it into the hand crank, and turn the crank. Then it rebuffs the CD surface, and "grinds" a new coat on it to remove sratches. Well, I have one, and after trying to recover 3 CDs with it and it didn't work, I decided to try it on a new CD (because I didn't like the looks of the CD when it was done). It rendered the new CD useless. And was repeatable on 4 more CDs (you know, just making sure I wasn't doing something wrong). It grinds a new surface all right, it grinds the surface right off! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

Serial floppy drives

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

Tim Linder asked: > Did anybody ever market a floppy disk system that communicated via > RS-232? The floppies for the Epson Geneva (PX-8) communicated via RS-232. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

23 years, 7 months

old zenith mod. zwl -184-02

by longshot＠ptd.net

Found this old 'puter that works..has power supply as well. Appears to have modem built in..."Zenith Data Systems Supersport...Any further info?..........Lane Roberts

23 years, 7 months

Novell 68b File Server

by PHardwick＠cybersols.com.au

Hi All, I would like to contact Marvin Johnston who posted a message on Sun, 07 Jul 2002 16:52:49 in regards to parts of a computer collection that he was selling. I am interested in getting hold of a Novell 68b File Server (this was the one with the Motarola 68000 CPU). Could Marvin, or anyone that has one of these for sale please email me at PHardwick(a)cybersols.com.au. I am currently in the USA and not Australia as my email domain would suggest. Many thanks and Kind Regards, Paul.

23 years, 7 months

OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Small tin with white pop off cap, tin is covered in blue and white, >thick white stuff pours out of it on cloth and rubbed on tanished >metals to get it bright again. Sounds like a product around here called Noxon which I use all the time to restore metals. Since I already have some Noxon I'll give it a try on a CD before I hunt and see if I can find Brasso (since Chad says it's available here in the US). Now to burn a CD, and scratch it up to see if it works. Thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>I've found that 'Brasso' applied by hand can descratch a CD >that was unreadable due to serious scratching and make it >useable. What's Brasso? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>I've never seen this thing but just a thought: were you grinding the >wrong surface (seriously)? No, I followed the directions to the letter, a few times, just to see if I was doing something wrong. You are supposed to use it on the reading surface (as opposed to the lable side) >I think things would have to be pretty bad for me to use >a grinding product on a CD. It doesn't advertise that it "grinds", rather it says it "buffs" the scratches out. But after trying it out on a few CDs, grind is MUCH better word for it, as it litterally tears the surface of the CD apart (leaving behind a very scratched up surface that no longer reflects worth crap). >I do have what is essentially >a soft pad (just to remove dust and prints and suchlike >from the surface) and I have seen various "CD restorer" >kits (these seem to be mostly fluids that claim to fill in the >scratches and prevent them from interfering with the >data readback ... I'm not sure I believe that!) I have one of those too... and it works VERY well, although not for seriously scratched CDs, but ones that are really dirty, and have some mars on them, it works nicely. But it is a much more gentle process. It looks like an overgrown jewel case, you put the CD in it read side up, spray it with the fluid (which from the ingedients is little more than alcohol and gelatin from what I can gather), and then close the cover and spin the handle. It then rubs in a pseudo circular motion, a soft felt pad (like a mini car buffer) across the surface. You spin it for a bit until the CD looks shiney. Then remove it, let it dry fully (a few seconds) and so far, most all of the CDs I have used it on have come back to life, at least long enough for me to image the disc to be burned to a new CD. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

Um, OK....

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Oh. Well, yeah. They're mostly the same folk. As contradictory as >that sounds, it is really the truth. Amazing how that is huh. They'll give you all the real junk, but toss the stuff that is of interest. >Let me guess. "But I thought you only like OLD Macs?" No, it was more along the lines of "Well, it never worked right for me anyway". My retort was simply "Yeah, but you're a moron" (I've known his brother since I was in the 3rd grade... so I can get away with calling him a moron and not fear that he will stiff me when he junks the iMac G4 in a month when he craps it up too.) And to add insult to my weekend... I just got back from my sister's house (had to fix her PC, her kids shoved the power button clean out of the front of the case). It seems her husband did the same thing to me. They got a new PC, and she planned to turn the old one into a kids gaming computer. But her husband decided it was taking up space and gave it to some guy he knows from work last month. At least I don't mind half as much with this one, it was only a P180 Compaq, this little black, non expandable desktop unit. And it went to another user rather than the trash. No serious loss. (although it would have made a nice tiny netBSD server since the thing was little bigger than a VCR) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

Serial floppy drives

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

One existed for the HP-48 series of calcs. It was called (I think) drive-95. The device used serial, and kermit to communicate with the calc for program storage. (I *reallllly* wanted one of those...) Doug Jackson MSS Operations Manager Citadel Securix (02) 6290 9011 (Ph) (02) 6262 6152 (Fax) (0414) 986 878 (mobile) > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:40 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Serial floppy drives > > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, tim lindner wrote: > > Did anybody ever market a floppy disk system that communicated via > > RS-232? > > Yes, but, ... > Only one really "caught on" > Radio Shack "Portable Disk Drive" was sold for the Model 100. > It was serial, but not quite RS-232. The first version was > Single-Density? on a 3.5" disk. > > CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

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