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by bernd＠kopriva.de

Hi, i'm looking for another challenge for my HP 9000/382 ... Currently, i've installed NetBSD, but there seems to be a Pascal Operationg environment available ? Does anyone know some details ? Where can i get it ? Which other operating systems are available for that machine ? Thanks Bernd Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de D-71397 Leutenbach Germany

23 years, 6 months

Attention 1802 fans...

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

One thing I really regret is that I bought all of the parts to build an Elf back when the Popular Electronics articles came out (I was only twelve at the time) but never actually finished building it because someone my father worked with gave me a KIM-1 that he no longer needed and it was more interesting to use an already working computer than try to build one. I kept all of the parts and the articles until I returned home from college and then, gasp, threw them out. I really wish I still had them now so I could build the Elf that I never finished. I guess I should just acquire some 1802 chips and finish the job now. I also regret trading in the KIM-1 along with a 8KB ram board and a SWTP terminal that I built from a kit a year or two later for credit toward an Apple II+ when they were brand new. The mistakes of youth... -Glen >From: "Jim Kearney" <jim(a)jkearney.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Attention 1802 fans... >Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 11:05:14 -0400 > > >I recently built an Elf, BTW: http://www.jkearney.com/elf. It's not going >into space anytime soon. > >Jim > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

23 years, 6 months

HP 7980S scsi 9-track

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred N. van Kempen" <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> wrote: > Does anyone have info on this beastie? I'm trying to convince it to be > nice to me and lock itself to 1600bpi, but it doesn't wanna play... :( CONF 46 -Frank McConnell

23 years, 6 months

microdata 9000

by aek＠spies.com

the person auctioning the microdata on ebay forwarded a picture to me, which i've put up at www.spies.com/aek/microdata it's a model 9000 with a cipher 880 the auction is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057885211

23 years, 6 months

For swap : Philips NMS 8245

by stefan＠softhome.net

Hi, I have here for swap a Philips NMS 8245 MSX2 system. Willing to swap for almost anything vintage computer related. Stefan.

23 years, 6 months

DEC 3000 300 PSU

by luser＠xtra.co.nz

Hi all, I'm in need of details on the DEC 3000 300 power supply. I've been give one that has none. The cost of getting a suitable PSU from Compaq USA to NZ is more than I make in a week. I'd like to try my hand at building one. Cheers.

23 years, 6 months

11/44 rescue complete

by jpl15＠panix.com

A rescue not without it's glitches and travails - from the fact that it took somewhere plus-or-minus a year to get the equipment released from the Large Company where it had been mothballed - only the dedication of it's former sysop kept it from the Dumpster of Death, to several hurdles that had to be danced around in actually effecting rescue process. Thanks to Sellam for orginally brining it to my attention. Thanks to Marvin who, on very short notice, drove over 400 miles round trip to pick up the System, and whose van subsequently broke down and required towing to a service center, with the computers and software and manuals still loaded. Thanks also to two non-listmembers who went out of thier way to help us - one of whom worked for the aforementioned service center, where the Poor Van got locked inside for the evening, even though Marv requested that it be left out so we could transload it... I now have 2 11/44s set up as mirrored systems - if one failed the other could be switched over 'easily' - 2 SCSI HDs of unknown capacity (they're full-height and look like Seagates from the front - 1 RL02 - and an 11/23 used as a serial line concentrator. The system runs RSX-11M. A Blue Wall came with it, and about 20 diskpacks. Perhaps this coming weekend I will find the time to power it up and see how it's journey of years of storage and a thousand miles in vans and pickup trucks has treated it. Here's hoping it's still Happy!! Cheers and thanks to all who helped! John

23 years, 6 months

CPMUG Disk

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I'm preparing another release of the Altair32 Emulator and I wanted to start building different program diskettes. I remember sometime in the past someone on the list provided me with a file listing from the old CPMUG Archive and also provided a few ZIP files >from the archive. Unfortunately, I can't find that person's email address. If someone has this archive (or a pointer to it), please contact me off-list. Thanks. Rich

23 years, 6 months

new list member..

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >At 12:28 PM 10/1/02 +0200, JD wrote: >>Hi Everyone >> >>I am new to this mailing list & thought a quick few lines as introductory would be ok. >> >>I'm a 23yo South African male Systems Developer (Read: microsoft monkey). >> >>Recently I acquired a lot of old computer systems and since then I have been collecting everything I can find that pre dates the general PC era. >> >>I will post a URL with a complete listing of all my current goods but here's a few I thought i'd mention seeing as there is very little about these on the internet: >>Intel Prompt 80, MDS-800 & ICE. > > Cool! which ICE unit do you have? I have an Intel MDS-800 with ICE-80, an Intel MDS-888 with an ICE-80, an Intel MDS-235 with hard drive with iCE-85 and ICE-86 and an Intel 320 system. I'm also storing another MDS-225 for a friend of mine. Dwight Elvey and Dave Mabry are also on this list and both have Intel systems and we all use them regularly. > > > > I also have various atari/commodore/hp/epson/sharp/ncr computers & handhelds. >> >>As far as i know i have one of the only few surviving Multitech Microproffessor II (MPR II) machines which is a slightly modified clone of the original apple 2 & apparently the first apple clone to be shipped out of taiwan. >> >>Back to the intel stuff, who can help me learn to use the MDS & Prompt 80 machines? Programming on a IC level has always been something I've been wanting to get into but alas no newbie resources are readily availible.. is the Prompt 80 ok for this purpose? > > A prompt 80? I've never seen one. I've seen a few Prompt 48s but never managed to buy one. I assume that it's for the 8080 CPU.? I suspect the Prompt Hi Prompt48 is for the 8048/49/35 parts. I don't have one of these but I do have a Prompt 2920. Dwight 80 wil be fine, especailly when used with the MDS-800 and ICE-80. > > Joe (located in central Florida) > > >> >>reg >>jD >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

23 years, 6 months

Latest aquisition: DEC 3000-300

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

We call it "the chevron" here.. :) --fred > -----Original Message----- > From: Huw Davies [mailto:Huw.Davies@kerberos.davies.net.au] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:40 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Latest aquisition: DEC 3000-300 > > > At 03:29 PM 1/10/2002 -0500, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > to the "lazy sergant" prompt (>>>). It has 112MB of RAM > and a 100MHz > > > >I've always called (and heard others call) the prompt the > "dead sergeant". > > I always refer to it as the "triple arrow" prompt. I must > have got this > from either the > local Digital engineer or possibly off comp.os.vms after we > installed our > first alpha > in 1992. > > > Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au > | "If God had wanted soccer played in the > | air, the sky would be painted green" > >

23 years, 6 months

Latest aquisition: DEC 3000-300

by dittman＠dittman.net

> to the "lazy sergant" prompt (>>>). It has 112MB of RAM and a 100MHz I've always called (and heard others call) the prompt the "dead sergeant". -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

23 years, 6 months

IBM PC 5150 and 720KB Floppy Drive

by robert_little_2000＠yahoo.com

Got a question... I have just received an original IBM PC; actually, 2 of them (one had to be parted out). I still haven't checked the BIOS date, but the machine does have an origianl Intel 8088 and the power supply appears to be the original design. Here is the crux of the problem... I want to refit the machine with a 720 KB 3 1/2" drive. This was a fairly easy mod that we used to perform on XT's, but it seems to have problems finding the drive. Anybody out there have any experience with this? Robert __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com

23 years, 6 months

Altair-what do I do first

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

Good move -- don't plug it in yet. The biggest danger is that the electrolytic capacitors have depolarized. In that case, they could heat up and explode when you turn it it on. Search Google for "reforming electrolytic capacitors" and you get a lot of links. In any case, detach everything from the power supply and check it out first. Unfortunately, Altairs have no connectors for this, so you will have to desolder the wires. Some suggest powering it up slowly on a variable transformer, but I have not tried that. After checking out the power supply voltages, unplug all of the cards and power up the front panel only. Then do the same for the CPU, etc. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Ron Hudson Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:51 AM To: Classic Computers Subject: Altair-what do I do first I have just been offered an altair computer, it's been sitting in the back of a garage, unused for some time. I don't want to just plug it in and power it up right away do I ? Inspect -- what am I looking for? Clean -- best method? It is described as "not having switches or blinking lights", having floppy disks, having been used for somthing to do with ham radio. This is in advance of actually getting the computer,

23 years, 6 months

Altair-what do I do first

by bshannon＠tiac.net

Thanks for catching my typo Joe. The MTBF (mean time between failures) is greatly REDUCED by unsoldering chips, often very dramatically so. Ever notice the soldering specifications for TTL devices, like 300 degrees C for not more than 10 seconds? This limitation is given for the parts to meet their rated MTBF, not because 300 degrees C for 11 seconds will destroy the parts right away. Resolder the parts, and you may be throwing away well over half their service life. Clearly not a professional way to restore a machine. For some repairs, we have no other option, but melting solder is a last resort. Joe wrote: >At 10:38 PM 9/28/02 -0400, you wrote: > > >>If you think this does the least dammage, your grossly in error. As a >>test engineer, I can direct you to any number >>of volumes that will show you the dramatic increase in MTBF >> > > I think you mean dramatic DECREASE in MTBF. But I doubt many people on this list even truely understand what MTBF is. I worked in reliablility, logisitics and maintainablity so I'm prpobably one of the few that would catch this. > > Joe > > > > > > for > >>resoldered parts. This is known, for-sure dammage, not some risk of >>dammage from a theoretical regulator failure. >> >>Care to defend this position? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

23 years, 6 months

new list member..

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 12:28 PM 10/1/02 +0200, JD wrote: >Hi Everyone > >I am new to this mailing list & thought a quick few lines as introductory would be ok. > >I'm a 23yo South African male Systems Developer (Read: microsoft monkey). > >Recently I acquired a lot of old computer systems and since then I have been collecting everything I can find that pre dates the general PC era. > >I will post a URL with a complete listing of all my current goods but here's a few I thought i'd mention seeing as there is very little about these on the internet: >Intel Prompt 80, MDS-800 & ICE. Cool! which ICE unit do you have? I have an Intel MDS-800 with ICE-80, an Intel MDS-888 with an ICE-80, an Intel MDS-235 with hard drive with iCE-85 and ICE-86 and an Intel 320 system. I'm also storing another MDS-225 for a friend of mine. Dwight Elvey and Dave Mabry are also on this list and both have Intel systems and we all use them regularly. I also have various atari/commodore/hp/epson/sharp/ncr computers & handhelds. > >As far as i know i have one of the only few surviving Multitech Microproffessor II (MPR II) machines which is a slightly modified clone of the original apple 2 & apparently the first apple clone to be shipped out of taiwan. > >Back to the intel stuff, who can help me learn to use the MDS & Prompt 80 machines? Programming on a IC level has always been something I've been wanting to get into but alas no newbie resources are readily availible.. is the Prompt 80 ok for this purpose? A prompt 80? I've never seen one. I've seen a few Prompt 48s but never managed to buy one. I assume that it's for the 8080 CPU.? I suspect the Prompt 80 wil be fine, especailly when used with the MDS-800 and ICE-80. Joe (located in central Florida) > >reg >jD > > > > > >

23 years, 6 months

OT: URL for the list's Tesla fans

by lgwalker＠mts.net

http://www.edm.net/~jwilliams/tesla.html lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

23 years, 6 months

IBM PC 5150 and 720KB Floppy Drive

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 10/1/2002 8:55:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, voyager(a)hol.gr writes: << > I have just received an original IBM PC; actually, 2 > of them (one had to be parted out). I still haven't > checked the BIOS date, but the machine does have an > origianl Intel 8088 and the power supply appears to be > the original design. Here is the crux of the > problem... > > I want to refit the machine with a 720 KB 3 1/2" > drive. This was a fairly easy mod that we used to > perform on XT's, but it seems to have problems finding > the drive. Anybody out there have any experience with > this? > > Robert >> Install the drive and start using it. Might need a cable adaptor depending on how old the 3.5 drive is. With a modern version of DOS, it will either work outright or you might need a DRIVEPARM statement to let DOS know it's a 720k.

23 years, 6 months

new list member..

by jd＠sourcecode.co.za

Hi Everyone I am new to this mailing list & thought a quick few lines as introductory would be ok. I'm a 23yo South African male Systems Developer (Read: microsoft monkey). Recently I acquired a lot of old computer systems and since then I have been collecting everything I can find that pre dates the general PC era. I will post a URL with a complete listing of all my current goods but here's a few I thought i'd mention seeing as there is very little about these on the internet: Intel Prompt 80, MDS-800 & ICE. I also have various atari/commodore/hp/epson/sharp/ncr computers & handhelds. As far as i know i have one of the only few surviving Multitech Microproffessor II (MPR II) machines which is a slightly modified clone of the original apple 2 & apparently the first apple clone to be shipped out of taiwan. Back to the intel stuff, who can help me learn to use the MDS & Prompt 80 machines? Programming on a IC level has always been something I've been wanting to get into but alas no newbie resources are readily availible.. is the Prompt 80 ok for this purpose? reg jD

23 years, 6 months

Eulogy for Bob Wallace by Dan Gillmor

by vcf＠siconic.com

Dan Gillmor wrote of Bob Wallace in his September 28 column in the San Jose Mercury: Bob Wallace, personal-computer software pioneer, philanthropist and activist, died last week in San Rafael. He had a too-short life, but accomplished more than most. Wallace was 53 when he died, apparently of natural causes, according to the Marin County coroner's preliminary report. He was one of the first Microsoft employees, but left in the early 1980s to start his own company, Quicksoft, which sold a popular word processor, PC-Write. He may be best known for his early contributions to the genre of software that became called "shareware"-- a marketing method in which people would buy diskettes with free-to-try software on them, or download it, and then let them buy it if they liked it. He had qualms about the commercial software industry, and once told the New York Times, "My philosophy is that I want to make a living, not a killing." Wallace worked, in college and afterward, with some of the industry's leading lights. He joined Microsoft in 1978. Wallace's interests ranged beyond the computing world. He was also known among drug-policy reformers, and funded medical and social research about psychedelic drugs. Wallace had many admirers, including his former employers at Microsoft and technology luminaries in Silicon Valley. "I remeber Bob as a gentle soul who was soft-spoken, but creative, persistent and meticulous in his programming and thinking," Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen told the Times this week. Rest in peace. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 6 months

Free in LA: TK50's - DEC Manuals - Commodore Pet - Dell P120 - Jaz Drives

by elmo＠mminternet.com

Help me with my pre-spring cleaning: I have several DEC Basic+2 manuals available in the small grey binders. About 20 TK50's - mostly VMS 4.0 - 5.0 distributions and updates, plus a couple LICENSE PAKs and a 3780 BSC emulator. A Commodore Pet 8032. A Dell Pentium 120 System (Chassis/CPU/Floppy, small HD, no memory - works.) A large assortment of wall warts, mostly 9 VDC. Several Multitech modem power supplies. Two Okidata low-profile laser printers - one 600, one 300 dpi, with toners and trays. (Recent feeding issues) A pair of 1 G SCSI Jaz drives. Miscellaneous ISA / PCI cards - video, network, sound. Promise ISA EIDE controller with BIOS. All yours for free. Pickup in Santa Monica. I have also a PDP-11/23 available for trade. Regards, Eliot

23 years, 6 months

PDP-11/93 Schematics

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

A friend of mine has an 11/93 that hangs about every third time the power is cycled. Can anyone help with a set of schematics? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 6 months

Free 8" floppy drives, near Washington DC

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: classiccmp(a)trailing-edge.com > >Same conditions as the DEC stuff: You pick up only. > >A bunch of Shugart 8" floppy drives, electrically identical to SA801's >but the aluminum castings are slightly wider than a real SA801. (Maybe >these are SA901's? I don't know.) > >E-mail me at "shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com" if interested. > >Tim. > Hi I think that all of the 900 series used 44 pin edge connectors instead of 50 pin. At least the SA925 uses the 44 pin connector. I have at least one of the larger SA800's and it just has a different dash number as I recall ( I used its control board and spindle shaft on another drive that fit the box I had ). Dwight

23 years, 6 months

Anybody want a TI Linear and Interface Circuits Data Book?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

First Edition, 1973, semi hard cover. Original owner's name on the outside top of the pages, slight crease in front cover. Paper sticker on front cover. Otherwise in VG conditon. I have two of them and don't need them both. Your's for the price of shipping. Joe

23 years, 6 months

Altair-what do I do first

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Yes, a great way to remove any socketed chips that are stuck (or soldered-in ones for that matter!) <GD&R> -----Original Message----- From: Bob Shannon [mailto:bshannon@tiac.net] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 9:50 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Altair-what do I do first <snip> Using a crowbar is an excellent suggestion really, if your super-concerned about rare chips, <snip>

23 years, 6 months

Seen this?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

There's at least an Apple ][ in that lot. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057798506&ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 6 hours to go. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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