Freek,
Een hele oude vriend van me, die ik al zeker 15 jaar niet heb gezien,
had er een. Die mensen verzamelden ook vanalles, en ze waren heel
zuinig op de spullen. Ze zouden die machine plus aanverwanten nog
best eens kunnen hebben.
Via telefoonboek of 0800-8008 zou je hun telnr kunnen achterhalen; ik
weet het niet meer:
Roeland & Maarten Tuk
Schoonoord [ik meen] 92
Voorhout, ZH
Groets,
Fred
Thanks to all who responded, both on-list and off-list.
Summary:
While READING, the 7980S will always default to whatever it
finds
on the tape currently loaded. If no format can be found (?
bulk-
erased tape?) it will use the setting below.
While WRITING, it will use the desity as set with the CONF 46
setting.
So, to fix my problem I had to set CONF46 to 1600, rather than 6250, and
it worked. :)
Cheers,
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Jackson [mailto:doug_jackson@citadel.com.au]
Sent: 03 October 2002 06:58
To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: Digital Decserver 700-16 info requested
Hi,
>I am the proud owner of 3 of these old (1991) terminal servers. DSRVW-YC. A01
> Unfortunately, I have absoloutly no doco. I have been able to determine that the device is trying to TFTP
Go to the dnpg website and enter "decserver 700" as a search term or
follow this link:
http://www.dnpg.com/search/search.cgi?m=any&ps=10&o=0&q=decserver+700
Antonio
>From: Geoff Roberts [mailto:geoffrob@stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au]
>>From: "Jeffrey Sharp" <jss(a)subatomix.com>
>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2002, Stefan wrote:
>> > I forgot
>>
>> Some file I have says:
>> : T2011 - 6310 - 6300 CPU / KA62B CPU XMI cpu module
>
>Yes, 300 Series cpu for a VAX 6000 4.7VUP. (1 VUP~=1 MIPS)
My list has:
T2011-00 KA62A-A VAX 6000-200 CPU
T2011-YA KA62B-A VAX 6000-300 CPU
T2011-YB KA62A-B VAXserver 6000-200 CPU
T2011-YC KA62B-B VAXserver 6000-300 CPU
I don't have any manuals to hand to go and check. I do know
that the KA62B was essentially a souped up KA62A,
so the -YA designator seems entirely plausible.
Antonio
"Bruce Lane" <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> wrote:
> I had an 88170 at one time. They're pretty much the same as
> the 7980. It will automatically sense the density of the tape
> you load, and will lock itself to said density, and it should
> certainly be able to handle all three of the standards (800,
> 1600, 6250).
It's less than certain. The supported densities are determined by the
installed board set. There are many 88780s out there that only do
1600 and 6250. Fewer that do 800 too. I have yet to run across one
that only does 1600 but it's a possible configuration; HP sold that
(w/HP-IB interface) as the 7979A.
For 7980s, 1600 and 6250 are standard and 800 is an option. 7980A is
HP-IB, 7980S is SCSI (single-ended). There's also an "XC" option
which does in-the-drive compression on 6250BPI tapes; I think this
option does not coexist with the 800BPI option.
BTW, a couple months ago Sun had a version of their service manual
for the 88780 up at:
http://sunsolve.sun.com/data/800/800-3447/pdf/doc.pdf
It's missing the figures though.
> Bear in mind that you'll need some fairly specialized (and
> expensive -- in the $300 region) software if you want to use
> that drive on any sort of PC.
Last time I noticed, FreeBSD and Linux were able to make use of a SCSI
interface with an attached 88780.
-Frank McConnell
Think I found the problems....
Machine #2 (the one I'm rebuilding) had its DIP's set
for a single drive. After correcting that, still
failed to work, so decided to check out the 720
itself... AH HA!
Of course it wouldn't work. It was a dead drive.
As for the purist out there who shudder at the thought
of adding later components to such a classic, I should
mention that I'm an astronomer. I don't have the
systems as collectibles, I use them. Yup, that's
right... when you're on a budget, you have to make
everything work. This ol' PC is basically just going
to serve as a real time clock. With CGA monitors they
are good for that...
Better that then have it go to the landfill (as is too
often the case...)
Robert Little
Astronomer
Talcott Mountain Science Center
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Hi,
I am the proud owner of 3 of these old (1991) terminal servers. DSRVW-YC.
A01
Unfortunately, I have absoloutly no doco. I have been able to determine
that the device is trying to TFTP a configuration file of some type. But I
can not find any doco since Compaq desimated the Digital support sites.
I believe that their logic was "is this PC related?" no - flush it.
Does anybody on the list either (1) know anything or (2) know anybody who
would know anything, about these boxes.
I would *really* like to use one to put a couple of modems onto to use as a
dial in service for my organisation.
regards,
Doug Jackson
Director, Managed Security Services
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> Vintage Computer Festival 5.0 is scheduled for October 26th and 27th.
> Doors open at 9:00AM each day, with talks beginning at 10:00AM and
> running until 2:00PM. The Exhibit and Marketplace is open from 2:00PM
> until 6:00PM each day.
Argh! It's up against the Edwards AFB air show. Moral dilemma...
--
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
>From: "Andy Holt" <andyh(a)andyh-rayleigh.freeserve.co.uk>
> IBM704 (mid '50s) didn't
The IBM709, which succeeded the 704 did;
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/grosch.html
The 709 succeeded the 704, adding overlapped i/o, indirect
addressing, and decimal instructions. The 7090 was a 709 with
transistor, rather than vacuum-tube, logic.
http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/reference/glossary_7.html
The IBM 709 Data Processing System was introduced in January 1957.
> PDP8 (?) did
The first DEC computer, the PDP-1 (designed 1959) did as well.
http://www.utc.edu/~jdumas/cs460/vonnarch.htm
mentions the 709 and no others.
VCF Gazette
Volume 1, Issue 3
A Newsletter for the Vintage Computer Festival
October 1, 2002
Hello Vintage Computer Fans! The VCF Gazette is back again with more
news about the Vintage Computer Festival.
In this issue:
VCF 5.0 Venue Change
VCF 5.0 General Information
VCF 5.0 Special Events
VCF Open House Update
Latest Additions to the VCF Archives
VCF 5.0 Venue Change
--------------------
The VCF is pleased to announce that this year's Vintage Computer
Festival is being sponsored by the Computer History Museum. This
sponsorship has enabled the VCF to be held at the Moffett Training &
Conference Center at the Moffett Federal Airfield in Mountain View,
California.
The move has several advantages, including tighter integration with
the tours to the Computer History Museum's Visible Storage exhibit
area. Tours of the Air & Space Museum will also be available.
The Computer History Museum has always shown support for the VCF in
the past by exhibiting terrific artifacts from their collection in
the VCF Exhibit. We greatly appreciate this new level of commitment
to and support of the Vintage Computer Festival!
VCF 5.0 General Information
---------------------------
Vintage Computer Festival 5.0 is scheduled for October 26th and 27th.
Doors open at 9:00AM each day, with talks beginning at 10:00AM and
running until 2:00PM. The Exhibit and Marketplace is open from 2:00PM
until 6:00PM each day.
The admission to VCF 5.0 is $10 per person per day for full access to
Speakers, the Exhibition and the Marketplace, or $4 per person per day
for Exhibition and Marketplace access only. Kids 17 and under are
admitted free of charge, and parking is free.
VCF 5.0 is being held at the Moffett Training & Conference Center at
Moffett Federal Airfield in Mountain View, California. Check the
VCF 5.0 website for more details and directions.
LODGING
The VCF has reserved a room block at the County Inn in Mountain View,
California, which is a short drive or walk to Moffett Field. The room
rate is $69 per night for single or double occupany. Reservation
information as well as information on other area hotels can be found
on the VCF 5.0 Lodging page:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/lodging.php
EXHIBITORS
If you wanted to an exhibit a computer from your collection, there is
still time to register. To register as an exhibitor, please go to:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/exhibit.php
VENDORS
The VCF still has vendor booths available. The VCF Marketplace is the
best place to sell your old computer items to a targeted market. You
may also sell items on consignment and leave the hassle to us. For
more information on the VCF Marketplace and consignment sales, please
visit:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/vendor.php
VCF 5.0 BBS
The VCF has just launched a bulletin board system on the VCF 5.0
website to enable attendees to communicate with each other before the
event to arrange trades, form carpools, and discuss the VCF in
general. The BBS can be accessed here:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/bbs.php
FOREIGN NATIONALS
Foreign nationals can disregard previous announcements about the
requirement to register in advance in order to be allowed access to
Moffett Federal Airfield. The confusion with the entry procedures
was caused by a miscommunication.
Foreign nationals will be allowed onto the base just as any United
States citizen, but as is required for all persons entering the base,
valid identification must be presented at the main gate.
We sincerely apologize for the confusion.
SPONSORS
The Vintage Computer Festival gratefully thanks its sponsors, the
Computer History Museum and the Alameda County Computer Resource
Center.
Computer History Museum
http://www.computerhistory.org
Alameda County Computer Resource Center
http://www.accrc.org
VCF 5.0 Special Events
----------------------
We are adding new features to the VCF this year to increase attendee
participation. Along with the Nerd Trivia Challenge, the popular quiz
game that tests your computer history knowledge, the VCF will feature
the Retro-Code vintage computer coding challenge in which attendees
will write games on old home computers within a limited time period at
the VCF.
Information on the Nerd Trivia Challenge can be found here:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/ntc.php
Information about the Retro-Code challenge is here:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/retrocode.php
COMPUTER HISTORY MUSEUM TOURS
Tours of the Computer History Museum will be running throughout the
exhibition hours of the VCF. Those that have not yet had the
opportunity to visit the Computer History Museum's Visible Storage
exhibits will certainly want to take advantage of this. For more
information about the Computer History Museum, please visit their
website at:
http://www.computerhistory.org/
DIGIBARN EXCURSION
The DigiBarn is a computer museum in a country setting (literally
housed in a barn in the Santa Cruz Mountains). Bruce Damer, the
curator of the DigiBarn, will be heading the excursion. A caravan
will leave the VCF at approximately 2:30pm on Sunday and return before
the close of VCF 5.0. More information about the DigiBarn can be
found on their website:
http://www.digibarn.com/
APL BAY AREA USERS' GROUP MEETING
The VCF is hosting a meeting of the APL Bay Area Users' Group (The
Northern California SIGAPL of the ACM) at VCF 5.0 in conjunction with
the lecture that will be given by Zbigniew Stachniak. Zbigniew will
be discussing an early portable personal computer, the MCM/70, which
ran APL. The meeting will take place at 3:00pm on Saturday, October
26, in the speaker hall. For more information on the APL BAUG, visit
their website:
http://www.acm.org/sigapl
Stay tuned for more VCF event updates!
VCF Open House Update
---------------------
The first VCF Open House is still in the works. We had promised to
have the VCF Archives ready for display by now but progress has been
slower than hoped. Still, progress is being made.
Most of the material needed to build out the floor has been acquired.
Construction on the floor will begin in October. Once it's complete,
artifacts will be selected and exhibits will be assembled throughout
the Fall, with an anticipated museum opening sometime in late November
or early December.
Again, the VCF would like to thank the Alameda County Computer
Resource Center for generously providing space for the VCF to store
our archives.
The Alameda County Computer Resource Center is the largest non-profit
computer recycling operation on the west coast of the United States.
You may visit them on the web at:
http://www.accrc.org/
Better yet, visit them in person and volunteer your time to help put
computers into the hands of deserving kids, schools and organizations
world-wide. Volunteering details can be found the ACCRC website.
Latest Additions to the VCF Archives
------------------------------------
The VCF has continued to acquire new (or rather "old") artifacts
since our last update.
One of the most exciting is our acquisition of a Digital Computer
Controls D-116 minicomputer. The DCC D-116 is roughly a clone of the
Data General Nova 830.
We have also acquired a Linus WriteTop. The Linus WriteTop was the
first pen-based computer, manufactured in 1986. The computer did not
meet with much success, mainly because the hand-writing recognition
was not perfect (but then, it still isn't 16 years later ;)
That wraps it up for this issue of the VCF Gazette! Until next time...
Best regards,
Sellam Ismail
Producer
Vintage Computer Festival
http://www.vintage.org/
The Vintage Computer Festival is a celebration of computers and their
history. The VCF Gazette goes out to anyone who subscribed to the VCF
mailing list, and is intended to keep those interested in the VCF
informed of the latest VCF events and happenings. The VCF Gazette is
guaranteed to be published in a somewhat irregular manner, though we
will try to maintain a quarterly schedule.
If you would like to be removed from the VCF mailing list, and
therefore not receive any more issues of the VCF Gazette, visit the
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Hello,
Someone out there who has the CP/M-86 software for the Dutch-made
Compudata Tulip System I?
It's an 8086-machine that is hardly IBM-compatible (as it was
introduced before the IBM PC). The BIOS is completely
different from IBM-PC-standards. Under Tulip's MS-DOS (which was
also available when buying this machine) it has a whopping TPA of
about 900 KB, as the video RAM is somewhere at the top of the 1
megabyte memory, and there are no expansion cards with their own
BIOSses. The 5,25 inch diskettes could store ca. 800 KB each.
Thanks,
Freek Heite
This is a set of special character keys. Probably for the LA34 DECwriter IV.
See http://www.mainecoon.com/classiccmp/LAX34/ for the only related pic I
could find.
100% new, I only opened the box to see what was in it.
Willing to swap or sell it.
yours,
Stefan.
> On a slightly more serious note, does the description mean it's running
> OpenStep?
>
> -- Tony
Nope, NeXTStep 3.3. For OPENSTEP you need to be running V4.x. Of course
V4.2 was *also* shipped as "Prelude to Rhapsody".
Zane
On Oct 2, 15:09, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> --- Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote:
> > The QBus equivalent of an RK11 is an RKV11-D, which is a single quad
> > board, controlling up to eight RK05's. They were moderately common on
> > larger 11/03 and some 11/23 systems.
>
> Umm... _my_ RKV11D is a quad-slot box. There's a dual-height card
> that sits on the Qbus with a pair of 40-pin cables that go to a
> small enclosure that is mostly filled with an RK11D. Another set
> of 40-pin cables goes from that to a short dual-height paddle card
> that goes in the first drive.
>
> Is there more than one variant of the RKV11D?
No, you're right -- I don't know what I was thinking of there. An RKV11-D
is basically an RK11-D with a QBus interface.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Don't know how many of you are on comp.os.cpm, but in case you missed it,
Leor Zolman has decided to release the full retail package of BDS C,
including *ALL* source code (compiler as well!) to the Public Domain.
http://www.bdsoft.com/resources.html#bdsc
Check it out!
Rich B.
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Ok, I've got a friend in academia who wants to know:
What was the first computer to support indirect addressing?
While I expect no definite answer (as if I had asked "what is the first
computer" :-), it should be an interesting discussion.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
On Oct 2, 13:55, Chris Muller wrote:
>
> I've been asked to try to get some data (to CD) from some number of RK05
> and/or RK07 packs. I have an old 11/73 floating around, but I believe the
> RK's were only for Unibus, so the drives alone wouldn't help me. My
contact
> is unaware of the O/S, but I resume its got to be RT or RSX. (?)
The QBus equivalent of an RK11 is an RKV11-D, which is a single quad board,
controlling up to eight RK05's. They were moderately common on larger
11/03 and some 11/23 systems.
The RK06 and RK07 use an RK611 controller, which is a large multi-board
unit occupying two system units, usually in an expansion box. There's no
QBus equivalent that I know of. Emulex did make QBus boards that emulated
an RK611, or more accurately, emulated the whole RK711 subsystem using a
QBus SC02 controller and an SMD drive, but you couldn't connect a real
RK06/7 to one of those.
The OS could be RT or RSX, possibly RSTS or something more unusual like
MUMPS. Even 7th Edition Unix has an RK driver. I think RT-11 or RSX-11
would be most likely, though.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi,
I've been asked to try to get some data (to CD) from some number of RK05
and/or RK07 packs. I have an old 11/73 floating around, but I believe the
RK's were only for Unibus, so the drives alone wouldn't help me. My contact
is unaware of the O/S, but I resume its got to be RT or RSX. (?)
Is there anyone in or near NYC that can handle these? If you can get the
files to a tape via COPY, I think we can take it from there.
Regards,
Chris Muller
Muller Media Conversions
www.mullermedia.com
800-OLD2NEW or 212-3440474
Has anyone on the list dealt with the eBay seller known as
"Mobybids"? He/she recently won a couple of auctions for some old DEC
documentation. In particular, a teacher's guide ( I have the workbook, but
not this) for the DEC Computer Lab really caught my eye, but I got
outbid. I've tried sending a couple of eBay "Question from eBay member"
notes to Mobybids, but got no response.
I should probably take the hint and just stop trying, but I thought I'd run
it by the list anyway, just in case.
-- Tony
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>
>Ok, I've got a friend in academia who wants to know:
>
> What was the first computer to support indirect addressing?
>
>While I expect no definite answer (as if I had asked "what is the first
>computer" :-), it should be an interesting discussion.
>
>--
>Jeffrey Sharp
>
>
Hi
My Nicolet 1080 uses indirect addressing as its primary
form of addressing. It was designed in the late 60's sometime.
This is the only way to address out of the current page.
Dwight
1. hp 25C calculator with case and quick reference guide but no charger.
2. Direct Logic 405 PLC by Koyo with DL440 CPU 22.5K word, I/O base 4 slot,
DC input module, and 8 channel analog module.
3. Atari 130XE with a XF551 ext. FD (51/4) for it.
4. Magnavox Color monitor 40
5. Commodore 1084S monitor
6. Vtech The Equalizer laptop in the box with mouse, manual, and ac adapter
for it.