At 01:00 AM 10/9/02 -0400, you wrote:
>It's not useful with any of the HP9000 700-series, as it's not HP-HIL
>either. I already gave away all my spare HIL keyboards and mice, but I can
>keep an eye out for more.
Please do! I have a apollo series 700 and could use a KB and mouse,
especially if you happen to come across one cheap :)
I was perusing alt.sys.pdp11 via deja.com recently, and ran across
a posting offering a "PDP-11/44" for sale...
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=50&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=alt.s…
I'm sure that message will hit a line break, so be sure to reconnect
it when you cut-and-paste. To make it easy of folks, let me quote
the contents...
"The system has the following cards in it M8300, M8310, M8316, 3 x
M8319, M8320, M8330,M8357, M8416, 2 x M8417, M8433."
... plus an RL02, RX02, 18 RL01Ks, boxes of floppies, docs, etc...
The astute reader will quickly notice that those are *not* PDP-11
handle numbers. It's a PDP-8/a with KK8E processor, KT8A, DKC8-AA,
RL8A, RK8E, KL8A and a wad of RAM.
Even better, it was in Columbus, about four miles from my farm. The
bad news is that I learned about it three weeks too late.
It did not get scrapped; it sold. I'm curious if any of us got it,
and if someone here did, if they could make images of the RL01s
and floppies available.
Wish I could have gotten it, but the hardware is nothing I don't already
have, so hopefully it went to a good home.
-ethan
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>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>From: Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net>
>Subject: Re: What video monitor for SOL-20?
>
>At 02:23 PM 10/8/02 -0400, Ben Bridgwater wrote:
>>I've just acquired an old Processor Technology SOL-20, and wonder if
>>anyone can advise on what video monitors are compatible with it (how
>>about an old IBM monochrome monitor - hercules compatible?), and what the
>>video connector on the back is (huge 1/2" dia. coax connector) - are the
>>mating connectors still available?
>>
>>Second, I'm planning to use my PC sound card to record/playback in lieu
>>of a tape recorder (more reliable, less hassle), and wonder if anyone has
>>done the same with any success?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ben
>
>It should hook up to any monitor that you might find in north america, BW
>preferrably. The only weirdness is the PL59 connector, so you may have to
>build a PL59 to BNC or what-have-you cable to connect it to your
>monitor. I picked up a 9" B&W security monitor for $10 at a swap meet and
>it has worked just fine.
>
>Here's where I get to plug my web site:
> http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html
>
>You may want to seek out the section on repairing the keyboard.
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In a message dated 10/7/2002 9:10:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
bbrown(a)harper.cc.il.us writes:
<< Last night I rescued two Ohio Scientific systems:
A challenger C1P and
A Challenger II (which was a MUCH bigger box, and had a matching big,
heavy dual 8" floppy cabinet).
The haul also included an ADM-3A terminal (always wanted one of
these), and a dual 5 1/4" floppy cabinet (don't know which system
this goes to).
I got no documentation, no software or anything
(these were all picked up from a curb-side garbage pile!!)!
I've always admired the ohio scientific systems...and almost bought a
C1P back in the late 70's (it was a toss up between a C1P and a
trs-80).
Any pointers to documentation, software, specifications, etc??
>>
I have 5 C1P models including a plastic case one. I have schematics and shiny
advertisements that must have came with the system. Interesting machines
although I have not tested mine yet. The 4 I got last year have all sorts of
switches and knobs on them. I think they were modded for extra video
capabilities.
>> Does anyone have an image of the OSI Disk BASIC disk?
> Did they actually have anything called "Disk BASIC"? When
> I used OSI systems, they had two operating systems, OS-65/D
> and OS-65/U (not sure of the punctuation in those).
There was advertised, at least in the UK, a disk expansion
(OSI 610) that included 12k disk BASIC on disk. From what
I remember if you got the fully populated expansion (24k)
and had the full complement of RAM on the CPU (8k) you had
19000 and something bytes free after loading the disk BASIC.
> OS-65/D was what was normally found on smaller systems.
> It was a pathetic excuse for an operating system.
Now I've gone to the trouble of building the hardware I'd like
to try some original software on it.
Lee.
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Well as for the OS, all I can say is it is a UNIX System V variant... I wish
I had manuals, etc. *sigh*
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Processor? 68020 @ 20MHz
Memory? Mine has 8MB, apparently
Disk capacity? Not sure, mine has a 340MB ESDI drive though
Disk format parameters even? Don't know, have no manuals.. my dad bought the
machine for me at an auction for a whole 5 bucks... It was marked as a "UPS"
heh. Oh it appears to use a modified VME bus possibly.. not sure..
The FDD itself is a Panasonic JU-475-2, and the tape drive is a Tandberg TDC
3820 (525MB QIC-type)
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Is it too new to be on subject? It's got a digitizer screen, but I got it
without the pen.
My stylus for my pilot doesn't seem to work, oh well I got it with a keyboard
and mouse. currently running <ugh> windows 98 </ugh>
: ^ )
Hi there,
I have here a MicroVAX 3400 with Ultrix 4.5 on it. All seems to be running
fine, except from the fact that I cant seem to get any action from the
ethernet port. I myself think its dead but I thought I'd ask here before
I'd give it totally up.
The network card is detected but no lights go on, neither can I do anything
on the network or does it show any connection on the hub. I can ping
localhost and the ip address i gave it, thats how far it goes. If i want to
ping anything else it says, network not reachable (or something like that).
Anybody any ideas ??
yours,
Stefan.
Well, as to not accepting x86-machines, then would that rule out NetFrames?
Those things rock, running Netware SMP or Windows NT.. Fault-tolerant too...
And though it isn't 10 yet, what about my Sequent? Would the fact it runs
Pentium-66s disqualify it? I think I agree with Sellam, in that so long as
it doesn't turn into a Windows support forum its OK... Would be good not to
have basic PC questions either, unless they're for say 5150s or for the
"sort-of-compatible" early clones..
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Hi folks:
I am new to the classiccmp list. I am an EE, and collect teletype machines
and HP test gear. My first computer was an RCA VIP 1802-based board. My
second was an Apple II. I got to play with some bigger stuff when I worked
at Cray Research a decade ago. But I digress.
I have also been collecting HP 85 computer stuff (85A, 85B, 3"/5"/8"
drives, roms, cards...), and I just got a 9915A, which is the industrial
version of the HP 85A (cpu-only in a half-rack box).
This 9915A does not have the tape drive (option 001), but has the operator
interface card (opt 002), which provides connectors for keyboard (DB-25F),
control (DB-15F), and video (BNC). The problem is, I have no keyboard,
monitor, or documentation of any sort for the 9915. I have most of the
useful 85 docs (short of the service manual), but nothing on the 9915.
Judging from the number of pcb connections to the keyboard connector, I'd
guess it uses a special parallel keyboard. I found reference to a 98155A
keyboard in a post about a 9915B (85B-compatible), and I presume that is
the same keyboard used with the A version.
I hooked the video up to the composite input of a tv, and saw text and
graphics when I ran the self-test from the front-panel buttons of the 9915.
The image seemed wider than the screen, and I'm not sure if is just my tv
adjustment, or if the video signal is not quite ntsc composite.
As for the control connector, I have no idea what that might be used for.
There is also a little board inside that has eight sockets, four of which
are populated with 2732 eproms. I am wondering whether this is part of the
cpu system, or if it is for embedded program storage like the programmable
rom card for the 85.
I presume that I can hook up a disk with an hp-ib card (and rom), so it
should be usable once I find a keyboard and appropriate monitor.
Anyone have any docs/info/tidbits/keyboard...?
thanks,
gil smith
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Does anyone have info on this beastie? I'm trying to convince it to be
nice to me and lock itself to 1600bpi, but it doesn't wanna play... :(
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Hi folks,
just excuse if this msg. is posted twice, but I've subscribed to the list
yesterday, and sent the msg. right after subscribing. Although, didn't saw it
in the list... So, please apologize if you got it twice!
I just 'won' an old HP Apollo 700 Series, Model 735/125. Unfortunately, I
don't have ANY information about it - searching HP's website took me to the
service manual, so I know a little bit more about it now.
By searching the web, I've learned that I can use a standard PC-VGA monitor
with the apollo, by soldering (or buying, :-( ) a special cable.
But, a few questions remain:
- Anyone has a PIN-layout for the monitor cable? I know that I have to solder
red to red VGA, red ground to red ground, and so on, but I don't know the
pinout of the VGA connector... Maybe anyone did this before, and can tell
me the correct PIN-to-PIN assignments?! (of course, I could search the web
for the pinout, but I'm also interested in experiences with this special
case)
- Can I use a mouse? Unfortunately, I just got the machine, and nothing
else... But, I found articles dealing with X-Windows, so I think a mouse
should be supported...
- My Apollo doesn't have a standard LAN-connector, just an AUI... I saw
it has a EISA slot, and the manual told me that EISA is fully compliat to
ISA (didn't know this before...). So, can I just equip the Apollo with one
of my old ISA Novell/ Eagle-cards? (Of course, drivers would be a problem
- but I plan to use NetBSD or maybe Linux, so I think I'll find one.)
There's an EISA card in the slot, but
this seems to be a Token Ring (it's called a "Ring" card)
Sorry if my questions are a little bit stupid, but I don't know anything
about the machine - just got it from dumpster without any additional
informatins, and thought it would be nice to use it.
Thanks for your help, I'm glad that there is a mailing list dealing with this
systems - thought I've just got > 10kg of old iron, when I start searching
the web, :-)
keep on hackin',
Harald (bofh(a)dh9dat.de)
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From: andy.egendorf <andy.egendorf(a)netpatents.com>
Subject: Remington Rand
I am working with the Rowayton Historical Society in Rowayton
Connecticut, which is putting together artifacts for display concerning
what is generally considered the first commercially available business
computer - the Remington Rand 409 series (1951).
We are trying to locate a source to enable us to punch a few dozen cards
in Remington Rand format (90 column, round holes), and a source which
can print on the cards the data punched into the cards. Both manual and
powered punches were manufactured, but we have not been able to locate
anything, even in museums. Similarly, we have been unable to locate any
printer that could be used. This card format was used into the 60s, and
maybe survived into the 70s or later, so there certainly ought to be
something out there.
Thanks,
Andy Egendorf
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Here's another shameless plug. I've posted a bunch of older DEC docs on E-pay, among them some engineering drawing sets for the PDP-11/05S and 11/10S, the MF11-U core memory system, and some various other books and goodies. There's also a KFQSA DSSI controller. All starting cheap, no reserve on anything.
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Hello Eliot,
I'd be very interested in the PET, if you still have
it. I didn't see any contact info in your post. I
would be grateful if you emailed me with your email or
phone#.
Thanks,
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I am in the market for a DEC TE16 or Kennedy 9300 working drive with
Unibus formatter card and cables.
I don't have much to trade, but will pay reasonable bux and also pay to
have it shipped , or pick up in the NorCal/Oregon/NorNevada areas.
This is for an 11/44 system. I have an M4 Data streamer, a very nice
SCSI/Pertec device, works well, quiet - but it lacks the 'cachet', shall
we say, of watching those reels go 'round.
Cheers and Thanks!
John
Hello, all:
I got my hands on an unpopulated S100 motherboard by Vector
Electronics and I want to put it together for testing purposes. It's an
active-terminated board and I'm having trouble finding equivalent parts for
two transistors:
NPN power: GE D44C1 or NSI D44C4 (TO-220)
PNP power: GE D41D1 or NSI D45C4 (TO-202)(NSI is National
Semiconductor)
Any help would be appreciated.
Rich
Today at auction I purchased from another bidder the following:
A black metal HHC MINI I/O (RL-6002) unit (first I have seen) with Hand Held
computer (RL-H1800) and HHC Color Plotter (RL-P1002) mounted to it.
Panasonic ac adapter RD-9498 first one I have seen.
A Brown leather case for the HHC also my first.
A HHC Printer/Cassette adapter P1004.
Instruction booklet for the HHC models RL-H1000, RL-H1400, and RL-H1800.
A box with 5 Thermal paper rolls for the printer - New.
Several tubes full of plotter pens from Tandy for the plotter.
I purchased four pallets of computers and related stuff for $2.50 plus 10%.
I have not completed listing all the stuff but will update ;list after I get
it done.
The 11/44 I rescued is actually two complete systems in one rack. Last
night I got around to turning up the other system, and was greeted by the
snapping of circuit breakers and the blowing of fuses.. aaahhrg!
Anyway, the H7140 power supply wanted some TLC which it got, but when
recieved, the 'B' system was minus it's Data Paths card, and there were
two spares among all the doc and other stuff, one labled "bad board".
Neither of the two spares work in the 'good' system, and the one from the
good system allows the monitor to sign on, but giving a ??CP HUNG result.
so I have some bus grant/NPG jumer work to do - not a problem.
What IS a problem is that I need one (or two) fuctioning M7904 cards to
make it work, as a printset for the individual CPU cards seems not be
included in the stack I got.
I am also in the market for two or three DD11-CK Single Backplane assy's.
Then, another couple of RL02 drives would round out things. I have found
a nice 9trk subsystem.
I know it's useless to ask about a Unibus SCSI card, so it's possible
that I'll end up buying one... yuk.
Hmmm... come to think of it, an RX02 might be fun, in case of software
finds on Floppies.
I will be brining the working system to VCF 5, as well as (possibly) a
PR1ME 750. I will be in wheel/deal mode then... I'd like to hear back
>from folks who might have some of the above wanted hardware, who will be
at VCF - we can make a deal and do gthe exchange at Moffet Field.
All for now...
Cheers
John
> Zane (and anyone else who is keeps DEC module lists),
In case anyone is wondering: ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/ModuleList.txt
The list is for non-Q-Bus and non-Unibus cards, and it started out as a list
combining all of the PDP-8 card lists that are out there (each of which had
at least some different data).
> I can confirm that the G646 _is_ part of the H212/MM8-EJ. You may
> "connect the dots" in the Module List.
>
> -ethan
Many thanks! I just updated it.
Zane