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by aw288＠osfn.org

I received a lead on some interesting junk located in Iverness, Florida, and I need some eyes and ears. Is anyone local to that area? The interesting junk in question is an AN/FPS-7 radar set (minus antenna). This is a very large, powerful, 1950s air defense set - look for lots of very large waveguide. And if you go to the yard - who knows, you might see some cool DECjunk. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

23 years, 5 months

FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

I would also chip in a little... but even though I'm sort of in the neighborhood (about 20 minutes away from him), I don't have the storage space for such a haul... Then the question becomes how we part things out to people? Does someone start offering them on ebay? Do they get parted out to the people who contributed to save them (and who decides the value)? Do they get maintained as a central cache where CCmpR's can purchase spares (with the contributors getting a price break)? So much hardware... it would be shame to see it disappear from the available pool forever... (if course, that would mean that whatever is left is that much more valuable). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 5 months

Cray T3-D Supercomputer Gov't Auction

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>Too bad it needs 440v 3phase and also requires the cooling unit, how >cool >would that be to have setup at VCF-East 2.0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Anybody gonna bid??? I would think about it... but I'm a 'foreign national'. Funny they think they can discriminate against permanent residents that way... ho hum. Well never mind - I WILL bring my Connection Machine to VCF-East! :-) Wonder if there are prizes for 'most blinkenlights'? :-) BTW anyone else who owns one please get in touch - there can't be many of us! Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 5 months

Mike 2 8008 Computer on EBAY

by gmphillips＠earthlink.net

Not sure if anyone here might be interested in this. Never seen one on EBAY before. Didn't this machine show up around the same time as the Mark-8? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2067562893

23 years, 5 months

Fwd: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped (fwd)

by foo＠siconic.com

See below Christian's message for the information on 5 Data General Eclipse's waiting to be scrapped after this weekend. Can anyone rescue them? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:11:10 -0500 From: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net> To: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> Subject: Fwd: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped Hey Sellam! Sorry I can't talk much at the moment, but I would like to ask you to pass this on to the ClassicCmp list. I cannot take the gear but it should _definitely_ be rescued. Wish I had the space (and time too! This is short notice for me.). Guess the fella found my email address through the Rescue List or maybe a web search, or ? East Aurora is a suburb of Buffalo, it's about five to ten miles southeast of the city and about ten or so miles "inland" from Interstate 90. Best regards to everyone. I promise to write to you, Sellam, later in the Fall to see what's been happenin' lately. -Chris NNNN -- -- >From: "Eric Kotz" <eric(a)erickotz.com> >To: <cfandt(a)netsync.net> >Subject: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped >Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:50:54 -0500 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 > tests=none > version=2.31 >X-Spam-Level: > >Hello, > I saw you are interested in many Data General systems. Where my dad >works, they have a total of 5 Data General Eclipse systems that >are being scrapped. 3 work, two are parts machines (parts machines are >missing the actual racks). I see you guys want Data General hardware-I'm >wondering if you have any interest in these machines. >These would be free for the taking. We also have like lots of >disks/manuals/etc for them. > >Now the caveat:These MUST DISAPPEAR by the weekend. If they are still here >monday, they are scrap. Personally, I can't bear to see these go for >scrap-they are so unique, and the fact that they work still must be more >unique. They were in service up until a month ago. > >The machines are in East Aurora, NY (about an hour from you). If you have >any interest, or know >someone that does, please send me an email, or call me at 585-758-3274 > >Thanks, >Eric Kotz >eric(a)erickotz.com > >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message has been ROT-26 encrypted for security purposes. Any attempt >to decrypt this message is illegal under the DMCA. Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

23 years, 5 months

calculators, was: Re: Best Find of the Weekend!

by dittman＠dittman.net

> I have a 16c here. Nice little piece. Does anyone have a PDF of the HP-16C manual? I've seen a CD for sale with all the manuals, but I just need the one. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

23 years, 5 months

SPARCbook and other finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today I got 2 Tadpole Sparcbook laptops ( one is good for parts only and neither had a battery); a Sun Sparcstation IPC; a Compaq docking station with the cdrom drive still in it (I have looking for one of these drives for my Compaq laptop that I got from a thrift some time back); 2-IBM 4224 printers; digital LA310 printer; a Sun optical mousepad; and several other items all for $19.

23 years, 5 months

Best Find of the Weekend!

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> At 03:29 PM 11/8/02 -0800, you wrote: > >I still like the old TI Programmers calculator that I found a few years back > >at the "Tektronix Country Store" (where they surplus stuff). > > FWIW I think that at least two of these Tek 31s came from that store. The > paper work with one of them has "List $4550.oo Sell $450.oo Brand New" > written on it. I remember Rick Bensene telling me about the sale at > Tektronix's store and I think that was the price they were selling them for. > Also two of these have been stamped "No Service SALVAGE Available" in a > cartouche with the Tektronix world logo. Many, many years ago (back when it was only open to Tek employee's) the Country Store used to rock! My Dad and I'd spend a lot of Saturday mornings there, we'd get in line before it opened, and they had a dumpster out front that was loads of fun to go through while waiting. In the 70's and early 80's there was all kinds of interesting stuff there. I've still got some tools and other stuff that I got back then. One of the best items I got was a hand held IBM card punch, new in the box (and it still is). I still remember the rows of test equipment, and the occasional computer equipment that they'd have back then. I've been there a few times since then, but besides the calculator the only good thing I've found was an old gutted PDP-11 rack. Though when I got married a couple years ago, my folks found me a totally awsome computer desk there! I don't think I've been back since the guy that had run it for as long as I can remember retired a few years back. Part of the problem is I work when it's open, and the other problem is I'm not sure where they moved to (keep meaning to ask my Dad). Zane

23 years, 5 months

_Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by foo＠siconic.com

Michael Nadeau has written a most excellent guide for collecting computers call (of all things), _Collectible Microcomputers_. It's not available in stores yet but through an arrangement with Michael and the publisher you can order it through the VCF website. http://www.vintage.org/special/collectible.php The price is $29.95 plus $5 for priority mail shipping. If you want a cheaper shipping option then just e-mail me. I'm taking payments through PayPal (including credit cards) or personal check or money order if you prefer (e-mail me for the latter options). We had hoped to introduce it at VCF 5.0 but the USPS took longer than expected to deliver the package. There are a ton of pictures in this book! There are a lot of machines that I've never heard of, which is cool, because I learned something new, and sucks, because now I have to go out and find them ;) Support your fellow list members and buy a copy of this book! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 5 months

Xerox PARC

by aek＠spies.com

> What your missing is the legal status of the work done at PARC. It was > in (large) part done with grant money This is the second time that you have said this, Bob. In all of the years I've been collecting information on PARC's research computers, I have never seen any mention of any money from outside of Xerox Corportation being used to fund their research. Where, exactly, did you see this information? There are ties between SRI and PARC, esp through the people from Englebart's lab that went to PARC, and it is well documented that his research was DARPA funded.

23 years, 5 months

Hitachi HM6116 Datasheet

by jlcollado＠bigfoot.com

Andreas, searching the web for the HM6116P-4 2Kx8 SRAM dataseet, I found an emial in a message board form you stating that you had the 1982 Hitachi Memory Databook. Could you send me the datasheet ? I would really appreciate it. Regards, Eng. Jose Luis Collado Buenos Aires, Argentina.

23 years, 5 months

Symbolics disk tool and ifs tape generating code

by mac.wood＠t-online.de

Hello, I'm desperatly looking for the Symbolics Disktool Software for addding non Symbolics MFM disks to my 3640 machine. I hope there are still some people with Symbolics Lisp Machines out there who could help me, By browsing older netnews articles I found a posting concering some lisp code to generate a breath-of-live tape i.e installing a machine without access to a running Symbolics 36xx machine. Here's the link to that posting: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=David+Gadbois+group:cu.slug&hl=de&lr=&ie=U TF-8&selm=899148625.11494%40news.Colorado.EDU&rnum=6 Does someone still have that code ? Any bit of information will be appreciated. Regards, Marc

23 years, 5 months

ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available fororder from VCF

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > I apologize for failing to adequately trim the message that I appended > mine to. The juxtaposition made an implication about Dick that should > instead have been the option of each person to draw their own conclusion. > > > It should be a cause for concern that after ubiquitously voicing unpopular > opinions about every issue (such as that MICROS~1 products did "not have > security holes"), that he would spam all with a virus and disappear > without a trace. ROFL! Thanks Fred! That really made my day! Glen 0/0

23 years, 5 months

Best Find of the Weekend!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

OK I'm claiming the prize now and it's only Friday! Top this: Not one, not two, but THREE Tektronix 31 calculators, all NIB! Found these at a garage sale. They appear to be from the estate of a Tektronix employee that bought them in Beaverton and shipped them to Orlando when he was transferred here. Two are "normal" 31s, the other is a different color and is marked "Coulter Model 43 Data Converter". It has options 1, 4, Pa and Pb installed. I've posted a couple of pictures of it at <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/tek-31/>. I haven't checked out the other two yet but they also seem to be well optioned out and have what I think is the interface to connect the TM500 modular instruments. Joe :-)

23 years, 5 months

OT: Phones (was re: BBSs & PPP)

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Sellam Ismail writes: . > I am UberGeek. I can't argue with this one -- I have no warehouse to "whip out" for the UberGeek comparo... ;^) > Merlin's suck. I've got a full-blown miniature central office in > my house. The eOn (formerly Cortelco) Millennium [...] I think most of us would be well served by a small Panasonic or AT&T Legend hybrid switch. Many people would be stepping up with a nice 3x8 or 4x12 system. If any of you are wondering, I'm here to tell you its worth it if you like to tinker with phones as well as computers. As for me, I've got a nice little Nortel CICS switch and voice jail nailed to the wall in the basement. And soon, very very soon, callers on hold will relax to the mellow strains of Mel Torme belting out his immortal version of "So Happy Together" or Guy Lombardo's version of "Mrs. Robinson," and other aural atrocities... Follow this link if you're more curious than revolted: www.ultralounge.com (Flash req.) or http://www.dblcrown.com/eow1.html for a review. Far, far afield, I know... Ob. classiccmp: Did anyone here pick up one of the two VAX 11/725's that went on eBay recently? --Steve.

23 years, 5 months

Appearance on TechTV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I will be appearing on TechTV this Thursday, November 7, between the hours >of 4:00p and 5:30p. I don't know the name of the program or the exact >time (I'll be finding out tomorrow) but this at least gives you advance >warning if you want to catch it. well gee... maybe if I had received this BEFORE 9:15 on the 7th I could have taped it and dumped to MPEG for everyone. Any idea yet what the name of the show is? TechTV tends to repeat the daytime stuff during the later hours. Maybe it will be shown again later tonight. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 5 months

ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>You can forward this on to him. He knows how to reach me. You, and your opinions, are not worth it ... Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 5 months

Discovery Computers 4 Sale

by vern5wright＠hotmail.com

I have two Discovery computers (x86 multiprocessor) for sale REASONABLE or amusing trade, in San Diego. Amazing machines - wish I had the time to play with them but I'm trying to get down to 27 machines. Be quick - or next week they'll go to the Computer Museum. Vern Wright vernon_wright(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 5 months

VAX 11/750 Restoration Project

by GOOI＠oce.nl

I do not have any experience with VAX 11/750's, but I have once heard the following about the PSU. They are not like the PDP-11 PSU blocks. Those can operate without any load as they are series regulators. The PSU's of the VAX 11/750 *must* have a certain minimum load for correct operation because they are switched-mode. I do not remember if those SMPSU's can be damaged by running them without a minimum load, but I know SMPSU's that will die without a load. So, to be on the safe side: get some bulbs from your car, connect them to the outputs of the PSU to shine a some light on the restoration of the VAX 11/750 ;-) success, - Henk.

23 years, 5 months

DEC Parts haul

by jpl15＠panix.com

I'd gladly kick in some bux toward this... both selfishly (I want some stuff for my 11/44 system) but more to just help preserve this resource and keep it out of the scrap shredders. And I'd be willing to also give money to rent a local (to the Stuff) storage unit for a month or two until logistics could be worked out. Further, I'd help out with transportation if the load as a whole has to be shipped somewhere out of the area it's in now. Cheers John

23 years, 5 months

FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by mtapley＠swri.edu

I'd donate a small amount. I don't think I need any parts now. It'd be cool to get consideration if I need some later, but c'est la vie if not. - Mark

23 years, 5 months

ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>I apologize for failing to adequately trim the message that I appended >mine to. The juxtaposition made an implication about Dick that should >instead have been the option of each person to draw their own conclusion. Whatever... >It should be a cause for concern that after ubiquitously voicing unpopular >opinions about every issue (such as that MICROS~1 products did "not have >security holes"), that he would spam all with a virus and disappear >without a trace. Perhaps he left because he felt he was unwanted? After the responses to your message, I would guess that he didn't exactly feel the love around here. Certainly I didn't agree with him on every point, and his battles tended to escalate pretty quickly, but he has never done anything to me personally, and I can put politics aside. He and I have made several deals on the side for parts, and he has provided me with some very good technical help and suggestions. I contacted him recently, and all is going quite well with him. He is extremely busy with several projects, and he said he couldn't devote the time necessary to be active on the list. Also, he gave a reasonable explanation for the virus issue, and said that it had finally been cleared >from his PC. Although *he did not directly say this*, I think the virus issue and the flamewars made him (like they did me) want to leave the list. If anyone wishes to contact him to verify any of this, I'll provide his email address upon request. Oh, and by the way, flamewars are one thing, but picking on someone who can't read the message to defend himself is quite another -- whether or not you agreed with him... Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 5 months

ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I second that, Marvin. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

23 years, 5 months

FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

I'd chip in a chunk.... I mean... I _could_ afford the lot, but there's no way in hell I can store it, or have it shipped to Holland, where I am now... *sigh* --f > -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:32 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay > > > On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Tothwolf wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Bruce Lane wrote: > > > > > Found on Usenet. The starting bid is a bit high, but > perhaps listmembers > > > could pool resources...? > > > > > > I leave it to you to decide. If I were still collecting, > I'd chip in a > > > bit myself. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2068638523 > > > > Wow...is this seller legit? > > > > I wonder if this lot would fill even Sellam's warehouse? ;) > > It's already full. This would break me. > > But we should definitely get a pool going so we can at least make Mail > List pay way more for it than he wants to. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage > Computer Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > International Man of Intrigue and Danger > http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 5 months

MS-DOS file needed

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Doe anyone have a copy of BACKUP.EXE from MS-DOS 5.0 that they would zip and email to me? TIA -- Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

23 years, 5 months

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