I received a lead on some interesting junk located in Iverness, Florida,
and I need some eyes and ears. Is anyone local to that area?
The interesting junk in question is an AN/FPS-7 radar set (minus antenna).
This is a very large, powerful, 1950s air defense set - look for lots of
very large waveguide.
And if you go to the yard - who knows, you might see some cool DECjunk.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
I would also chip in a little... but even though I'm sort of in
the neighborhood (about 20 minutes away from him), I don't have
the storage space for such a haul...
Then the question becomes how we part things out to people?
Does someone start offering them on ebay? Do they get parted out
to the people who contributed to save them (and who decides the
value)? Do they get maintained as a central cache where CCmpR's
can purchase spares (with the contributors getting a price break)?
So much hardware... it would be shame to see it disappear from the
available pool forever... (if course, that would mean that whatever
is left is that much more valuable).
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) |
| Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA |
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>Too bad it needs 440v 3phase and also requires the cooling unit, how >cool
>would that be to have setup at VCF-East 2.0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Anybody gonna bid???
I would think about it... but I'm a 'foreign national'. Funny they think
they can discriminate against permanent residents that way... ho hum.
Well never mind - I WILL bring my Connection Machine to VCF-East! :-)
Wonder if there are prizes for 'most blinkenlights'? :-)
BTW anyone else who owns one please get in touch - there can't be many of
us!
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
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See below Christian's message for the information on 5 Data General
Eclipse's waiting to be scrapped after this weekend.
Can anyone rescue them?
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:11:10 -0500
From: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
To: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com>
Subject: Fwd: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped
Hey Sellam!
Sorry I can't talk much at the moment, but I would like to ask you to pass
this on to the ClassicCmp list. I cannot take the gear but it should
_definitely_ be rescued. Wish I had the space (and time too! This is short
notice for me.). Guess the fella found my email address through the Rescue
List or maybe a web search, or ?
East Aurora is a suburb of Buffalo, it's about five to ten miles southeast
of the city and about ten or so miles "inland" from Interstate 90.
Best regards to everyone. I promise to write to you, Sellam, later in the
Fall to see what's been happenin' lately.
-Chris
NNNN
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>From: "Eric Kotz" <eric(a)erickotz.com>
>To: <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
>Subject: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped
>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:50:54 -0500
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>Hello,
> I saw you are interested in many Data General systems. Where my dad
>works, they have a total of 5 Data General Eclipse systems that
>are being scrapped. 3 work, two are parts machines (parts machines are
>missing the actual racks). I see you guys want Data General hardware-I'm
>wondering if you have any interest in these machines.
>These would be free for the taking. We also have like lots of
>disks/manuals/etc for them.
>
>Now the caveat:These MUST DISAPPEAR by the weekend. If they are still here
>monday, they are scrap. Personally, I can't bear to see these go for
>scrap-they are so unique, and the fact that they work still must be more
>unique. They were in service up until a month ago.
>
>The machines are in East Aurora, NY (about an hour from you). If you have
>any interest, or know
>someone that does, please send me an email, or call me at 585-758-3274
>
>Thanks,
>Eric Kotz
>eric(a)erickotz.com
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
>This message has been ROT-26 encrypted for security purposes. Any attempt
>to decrypt this message is illegal under the DMCA.
Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
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> I have a 16c here. Nice little piece.
Does anyone have a PDF of the HP-16C manual? I've seen a CD
for sale with all the manuals, but I just need the one.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
Today I got 2 Tadpole Sparcbook laptops ( one is good for parts only and
neither had a battery); a Sun Sparcstation IPC; a Compaq docking station
with the cdrom drive still in it (I have looking for one of these drives for
my Compaq laptop that I got from a thrift some time back); 2-IBM 4224
printers; digital LA310 printer; a Sun optical mousepad; and several other
items all for $19.
> At 03:29 PM 11/8/02 -0800, you wrote:
> >I still like the old TI Programmers calculator that I found a few years back
> >at the "Tektronix Country Store" (where they surplus stuff).
>
> FWIW I think that at least two of these Tek 31s came from that store. The
> paper work with one of them has "List $4550.oo Sell $450.oo Brand New"
> written on it. I remember Rick Bensene telling me about the sale at
> Tektronix's store and I think that was the price they were selling them for.
> Also two of these have been stamped "No Service SALVAGE Available" in a
> cartouche with the Tektronix world logo.
Many, many years ago (back when it was only open to Tek employee's) the
Country Store used to rock! My Dad and I'd spend a lot of Saturday mornings
there, we'd get in line before it opened, and they had a dumpster out front
that was loads of fun to go through while waiting.
In the 70's and early 80's there was all kinds of interesting stuff there.
I've still got some tools and other stuff that I got back then. One of the
best items I got was a hand held IBM card punch, new in the box (and it
still is). I still remember the rows of test equipment, and the occasional
computer equipment that they'd have back then.
I've been there a few times since then, but besides the calculator the only
good thing I've found was an old gutted PDP-11 rack. Though when I got
married a couple years ago, my folks found me a totally awsome computer desk
there! I don't think I've been back since the guy that had run it for as
long as I can remember retired a few years back. Part of the problem is I
work when it's open, and the other problem is I'm not sure where they moved
to (keep meaning to ask my Dad).
Zane
Michael Nadeau has written a most excellent guide for collecting computers
call (of all things), _Collectible Microcomputers_. It's not available in
stores yet but through an arrangement with Michael and the publisher you
can order it through the VCF website.
http://www.vintage.org/special/collectible.php
The price is $29.95 plus $5 for priority mail shipping. If you want a
cheaper shipping option then just e-mail me.
I'm taking payments through PayPal (including credit cards) or personal
check or money order if you prefer (e-mail me for the latter options).
We had hoped to introduce it at VCF 5.0 but the USPS took longer than
expected to deliver the package.
There are a ton of pictures in this book! There are a lot of machines
that I've never heard of, which is cool, because I learned something new,
and sucks, because now I have to go out and find them ;)
Support your fellow list members and buy a copy of this book!
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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> What your missing is the legal status of the work done at PARC. It was
> in (large) part done with grant money
This is the second time that you have said this, Bob.
In all of the years I've been collecting information
on PARC's research computers, I have never seen any
mention of any money from outside of Xerox Corportation
being used to fund their research. Where, exactly, did
you see this information?
There are ties between SRI and PARC, esp through the
people from Englebart's lab that went to PARC, and it
is well documented that his research was DARPA funded.
Andreas, searching the web for the HM6116P-4 2Kx8 SRAM dataseet, I found
an emial in a message board form you stating that you had the 1982
Hitachi Memory Databook.
Could you send me the datasheet ? I would really appreciate it.
Regards,
Eng. Jose Luis Collado
Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Hello,
I'm desperatly looking for the Symbolics Disktool Software for addding
non Symbolics MFM disks to my 3640 machine.
I hope there are still some people with Symbolics Lisp Machines out there
who could help me,
By browsing older netnews articles I found a posting concering some lisp
code to generate a breath-of-live tape i.e installing a machine without
access to a running Symbolics 36xx machine.
Here's the link to that posting:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=David+Gadbois+group:cu.slug&hl=de&lr=&ie=U
TF-8&selm=899148625.11494%40news.Colorado.EDU&rnum=6
Does someone still have that code ?
Any bit of information will be appreciated.
Regards,
Marc
> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> I apologize for failing to adequately trim the message that I appended
> mine to. The juxtaposition made an implication about Dick that should
> instead have been the option of each person to draw their own conclusion.
>
>
> It should be a cause for concern that after ubiquitously voicing
unpopular
> opinions about every issue (such as that MICROS~1 products did "not have
> security holes"), that he would spam all with a virus and disappear
> without a trace.
ROFL! Thanks Fred! That really made my day!
Glen
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OK I'm claiming the prize now and it's only Friday!
Top this: Not one, not two, but THREE Tektronix 31 calculators, all NIB!
Found these at a garage sale. They appear to be from the estate of a Tektronix employee that bought them in Beaverton and shipped them to Orlando when he was transferred here. Two are "normal" 31s, the other is a different color and is marked "Coulter Model 43 Data Converter". It has options 1, 4, Pa and Pb installed. I've posted a couple of pictures of it at <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/tek-31/>. I haven't checked out the other two yet but they also seem to be well optioned out and have what I think is the interface to connect the TM500 modular instruments.
Joe :-)
Sellam Ismail writes:
.
> I am UberGeek.
I can't argue with this one -- I have no warehouse to "whip out" for
the UberGeek comparo... ;^)
> Merlin's suck. I've got a full-blown miniature central office in
> my house. The eOn (formerly Cortelco) Millennium [...]
I think most of us would be well served by a small Panasonic or AT&T
Legend hybrid switch. Many people would be stepping up with a nice 3x8
or 4x12 system. If any of you are wondering, I'm here to tell you its
worth it if you like to tinker with phones as well as computers.
As for me, I've got a nice little Nortel CICS switch and voice jail
nailed to the wall in the basement. And soon, very very soon, callers
on hold will relax to the mellow strains of Mel Torme belting out his
immortal version of "So Happy Together" or Guy Lombardo's version of
"Mrs. Robinson," and other aural atrocities... Follow this link if
you're more curious than revolted: www.ultralounge.com (Flash req.)
or http://www.dblcrown.com/eow1.html for a review.
Far, far afield, I know...
Ob. classiccmp: Did anyone here pick up one of the two VAX 11/725's
that went on eBay recently?
--Steve.
>I will be appearing on TechTV this Thursday, November 7, between the hours
>of 4:00p and 5:30p. I don't know the name of the program or the exact
>time (I'll be finding out tomorrow) but this at least gives you advance
>warning if you want to catch it.
well gee... maybe if I had received this BEFORE 9:15 on the 7th I could
have taped it and dumped to MPEG for everyone.
Any idea yet what the name of the show is? TechTV tends to repeat the
daytime stuff during the later hours. Maybe it will be shown again later
tonight.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>You can forward this on to him. He knows how to reach me.
You, and your opinions, are not worth it ...
Rich B.
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I have two Discovery computers (x86 multiprocessor)
for sale REASONABLE or amusing trade, in San Diego.
Amazing machines - wish I had the time to play with
them but I'm trying to get down to 27 machines.
Be quick - or next week they'll go to the Computer
Museum.
Vern Wright
vernon_wright(a)hotmail.com
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I do not have any experience with VAX 11/750's,
but I have once heard the following about the PSU.
They are not like the PDP-11 PSU blocks. Those can
operate without any load as they are series regulators.
The PSU's of the VAX 11/750 *must* have a certain minimum
load for correct operation because they are switched-mode.
I do not remember if those SMPSU's can be damaged by
running them without a minimum load, but I know SMPSU's
that will die without a load.
So, to be on the safe side: get some bulbs from your car,
connect them to the outputs of the PSU to shine a some
light on the restoration of the VAX 11/750 ;-)
success,
- Henk.
I'd gladly kick in some bux toward this... both selfishly (I want some
stuff for my 11/44 system) but more to just help preserve this resource
and keep it out of the scrap shredders.
And I'd be willing to also give money to rent a local (to the Stuff)
storage unit for a month or two until logistics could be worked out.
Further, I'd help out with transportation if the load as a whole has to
be shipped somewhere out of the area it's in now.
Cheers
John
>I apologize for failing to adequately trim the message that I appended
>mine to. The juxtaposition made an implication about Dick that should
>instead have been the option of each person to draw their own conclusion.
Whatever...
>It should be a cause for concern that after ubiquitously voicing unpopular
>opinions about every issue (such as that MICROS~1 products did "not have
>security holes"), that he would spam all with a virus and disappear
>without a trace.
Perhaps he left because he felt he was unwanted? After the responses to
your message, I would guess that he didn't exactly feel the love around
here.
Certainly I didn't agree with him on every point, and his battles tended to
escalate pretty quickly, but he has never done anything to me personally,
and I can put politics aside. He and I have made several deals on the side
for parts, and he has provided me with some very good technical help and
suggestions.
I contacted him recently, and all is going quite well with him. He is
extremely busy with several projects, and he said he couldn't devote the
time necessary to be active on the list. Also, he gave a reasonable
explanation for the virus issue, and said that it had finally been cleared
>from his PC. Although *he did not directly say this*, I think the virus
issue and the flamewars made him (like they did me) want to leave the list.
If anyone wishes to contact him to verify any of this, I'll provide his
email address upon request.
Oh, and by the way, flamewars are one thing, but picking on someone who
can't read the message to defend himself is quite another -- whether or not
you agreed with him...
Rich B.
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I'd chip in a chunk.... I mean... I _could_ afford the lot, but there's
no way in hell I can store it, or have it shipped to Holland, where I am
now...
*sigh*
--f
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:32 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Bruce Lane wrote:
> >
> > > Found on Usenet. The starting bid is a bit high, but
> perhaps listmembers
> > > could pool resources...?
> > >
> > > I leave it to you to decide. If I were still collecting,
> I'd chip in a
> > > bit myself.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2068638523
> >
> > Wow...is this seller legit?
> >
> > I wonder if this lot would fill even Sellam's warehouse? ;)
>
> It's already full. This would break me.
>
> But we should definitely get a pool going so we can at least make Mail
> List pay way more for it than he wants to.
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage
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Doe anyone have a copy of BACKUP.EXE from MS-DOS 5.0 that they would zip
and email to me?
TIA --
Glen
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If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
And if not now, when?
-- Pirkei Avot