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Longevity of CD-R (was RE: Preserving Newspaper.)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Kodak seems to be mostly out of the gold CD-R business, but Mitsui and >Taiyo Yuden still make gold media. It's hard to find at retail, though >a Google search turns up plenty of mail order sources. Of course it >is much more expensive than silver. Any idea about the quality of Verbatim's "Azo" dye? Obviously they hype it as being far better than other media, but I didn't know if anyone knows any "truth" about it. I have been moving to those because that is what I have been buying for my VCD recorder. I settled on them because they were the only ones I could get to work reliably in my VCD recorder when I first got it. It turned out to be a defective recorder (cooling fan was broken, so the unit overheated within minutes), and now just about any 74 minute CD-Rs work in it... but I have stuck with the Verbatim despite the slightly higher price... simply because I was impressed that they managed to work consistantly even in a broken recorder. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 5 months

Sellam on TechTV

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have a QuickTime Movie of Sellam's section on TechTV's ScreenSavers the other day. Unfortunatly, it is about 11 MB, which is more than I can host over my DSL if it is going to get any number of hits. How many people want me to put this up, or is there someone with a better connection that wants to host it instead? (I also have a slightly higher quality version that is about 21 MB). The clip runs about 9 minutes and requires Apple's QuickTime (if anyone has easy access to an MPEG converter and wants to convert it, feel free). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 5 months

watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> wrote: > At 01:08 PM 11/9/02 -0800, Frank McConnell wrote: > >What really cheeses me off about this sort of thing is that the > >service providers don't go out of their way to make it easy to > >identify fraudulent use of their names (or do any kind of sane mail > >filtering, for that matter) by looking at the source and destination > >domain names in e-mail headers and URLs. > > Two great opposing forces are at work on the internet, total control and > verified identity, vs, anarchy and annonmenity (sorry spelling is not a > major force). I guess I put this the wrong way round. The company on whose behalf this stuff was e-mailed (HP) has allowed someone to make it hard to identify that the stuff really originated with or in fact has anything to do with them, beyond easily-forgeable bits in the From: header name (the text bit, not the address) and body which I know better than to trust. > Unfortunately the same verified ID that would let me track down a spammer, > also would allow oppressive regimes to control internet content. I'm not asking for a cryptographically verifiable ID, I'm asking that those who would allow other parties to send authorized corporate communications in their behalf via unencrypted e-mail at least put enough effort into making sure that these communications at least give the appearance of coming from the authorizing party. Allowing the mailing-list company to use specific name(s) in hp.com in the From: header address and URLs would do; allowing the mailing-list company to use specific name(s) in hp.com in the Received: headers and SMTP envelope address would be nice too. This is all just DNS tricks. Absent this, how can I (as the receiver) tell the difference between authorized and unauthorized communications? I can't, and if I can't I don't see how I can expect anyone else to do so. That's what makes it possible for some miscreant to forge e-mail claiming to be from HP, or eBay, and get people to reply with their credentials. The recipients can't tell which messages to trust. ObCC: turned up a copy of Abrash's _Zen of Assembly Language_ at the book sale yesterday. It's a good book (and hard to find), but you can probably get most of his message out of his later books that are somewhat easier to find: _Zen of Code Optimization_ and/or _Graphics Programming Black Book_ (which latter I believe is available in some form or other online). -Frank McConnell

23 years, 5 months

[OT] Headed for the scrap heap...

by patrick＠evocative.com

The following spare parts from 3Com equipment (1992-1994) are headed for the scrap heap unless someone wants them (all or individual): CEC for 3Com NetBuilder II 3C6000 Power Supply for same Two Ethernet cards for same One HSS V.35/RS232 high-speed serial card for same 16-port serial card for 3Com Communications Server CS/3100 10-BaseT option card for same All items are in Berkeley, CA, and of course no charge (unless you need it shipped, then just actual cost). Patrick

23 years, 5 months

Xerox Parc

by lgwalker＠mts.net

Something that I have always wondered about is why Xerox never sued Jobs ass off for the Mac GUI and also MSWindows which was derrived from Xerox's 'Small-Talk". They were a major corporation and Apple was quick enough to disembowel DRI's GEM altho Sam's Atari ST still continued to use an updated version of the original. MS has also litigated any threat to their bullying dominance and despite the protestations of the C-64 fans GEOS (any coincidence there) is obviously a clone of the GEM desktop. The mouse was also developed at Palo Alto. I have trouble simply accepting that a major corporation like XEROX was simply a stupid wimp. From all evidence I've seen Xerox invented the GUI. Something more important than CP/M, MSDOS, or UNIX. What am I missing here. Lawrence lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

23 years, 5 months

PDP-8/E Ext. Memory Test Wierdness

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

My PDP-8/E currently has four fields of core installed - fields 0 through 3. All fields pass both the 4K Memory Address Test and 4K Checkerboard Test with no problems. The Ext. Memory Address Test also runs fine. However, when I run the Ext. Memory Checkerboard Test I get wierdness. Here is the run: PDP-8E EXT MEM DATA & CHKBD SETUP SR & CONT <--- Set SR to 000000000011 4 FIELDS IN THIS SYSTEM FIELDS SEL'D ARE 6 5 3 2 0 <--- First bit of wierdness. This should be 3 2 1 0 PROG WILL RELOCATE PR LOC FAIL ADDR GOOD BAD PATTERN 01660 50000 7777 0000 ALL 0 - 10 01660 50001 7777 0000 ALL 0 - 10 This continues through fields 5 and 6 until I hit the halt key. The Config is as follows: PDP-8/E CPU EAE Ext Memory & Timesharing ASR-33 Teletype and Associated Control 4K Core stacks for Fields 0 and 1, 8K Stack for Fields 2 and 3 What I don't understand is why the Ext. Mem Address Test works correctly, but the Ext Memory Data and Checkerboard can determine the number of fields while messing up on exactly which fields they are. Anyone seen this before? -- Christopher L McNabb Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.1356N 80.4272N GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

23 years, 5 months

11/44 scare

by jpl15＠panix.com

Well, this evening I fired up the PDP11/44 machine that I drug to VCF5 and back... it has moved into the house to live in what would have been the dining room, had I not made my office there. I thought of leaving it in the garage and just having the teminals in here, but it's getting regularly down into the teens and below at night, and Winter is hardly here yet... Anyway, after checking things out visually, I powered it on and the monitor immediately trapped to the console and halted. Ah. Schiess/Merde/Caca! Okay, no problem, something shook loose during all the moving and loading/unloading.. I powered down and re-seated the cards. Power back up, same thing. Starts to boot, traps to ODT, proc halts displaying the address it's stumbling over. I paused to give vent to language that is best represented by ASCII line noise. BUT: I have doc! I have Processor Manuals! I have the Technical Manual! And, using ODT, I found that the system was trying to boot the ESDI drives and failing. I'm so proud of myself - decoded the error codes, followed the registers to what was hurting... the Dilog 626 has died... tried to boot from the RL02 - that works fine. Got the other 626 from the other (dead) /44 chassis - now all is well. SO - I'm looking for another Unibus ESDI controller.... as well as all the other Junque. I'm supposed to have a SCSI card on the way - if it works it will have been a Good Deal. If it's trash - oh, well: keep looking. And there you have it. Cheers John

23 years, 5 months

Signetics 2650

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

LOL, AFAIK, Ehrlacher still has some 2650s.. He gave me one. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 5 months

watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote: > Why not save energy, and use a water immersion that is very slowly brought > to a boil? Hey, why not be green, at least from an energy point of view? I'm imagining a big concave mirror and a hoist. Tie the rope to appendages appropriate to the crime, and hoist the miscreant into the focal point. ... What really cheeses me off about this sort of thing is that the service providers don't go out of their way to make it easy to identify fraudulent use of their names (or do any kind of sane mail filtering, for that matter) by looking at the source and destination domain names in e-mail headers and URLs. For example, four years ago I bought a then-new HP scanner. I registered it, and gave them an e-mail address. Once a month or so, I get this thing that says something like "Happy Halloween from HP" in the Subject, was mailed from some domain name in p0.com, and has a bunch of URLs with domain names in p01.com. How the foo is J. Random Customer supposed to tell the difference between this and an attempt to defraud or commit identity theft? -Grumpy Ol' Frank

23 years, 5 months

Best Find of the Weekend!

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I still like the old TI Programmers calculator that I found a few years back at the "Tektronix Country Store" (where they surplus stuff). Nice LED model, that can convert between the various number systems (I never was that great with Decimal to/from anything). It has the added benifit of being almost identical to the one my Dad had when I was growing up. Except for the battery, it works fine and came with the box, manual, and a power brick. Does anyone still make "Programmers Calculators"? I've got either a Sharp or a Cassio that I bought new 12+ years ago. I forget which brand it is, but it was the one I really liked. It was basically the battery operated/enhanced version of a solar powered one I'd had in High School (which unfortunatly died). I'd love to find a good solar powered one, as I can never remember to pick up batteries for it, as a result I've not been able to use it in years :^/ Zane > > I vote for this as a candidate for "best find of the > decade". > > --- Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > OK I'm claiming the prize now and it's only > > Friday! > > > > Top this: Not one, not two, but THREE Tektronix > > 31 calculators, all NIB! > > > > Found these at a garage sale. They appear to be > > from the estate of a Tektronix employee that bought > > them in Beaverton and shipped them to Orlando when > > he was transferred here. Two are "normal" 31s, the > > other is a different color and is marked "Coulter > > Model 43 Data Converter". It has options 1, 4, Pa > > and Pb installed. I've posted a couple of pictures > > of it at <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/tek-31/>. > > I haven't checked out the other two yet but they > > also seem to be well optioned out and have what I > > think is the interface to connect the TM500 modular > > instruments. > > > > Joe :-) > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos > http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 >

23 years, 5 months

Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 available (?)

by geoff＠pkworks.com

Yah, I saw that. If he drops a zero off the price I'm interested... >Just spotted this in last week's Want Advertiser - didn't get around >to reading the computer section... Located in Townsend, MA maybe an >hour out of Boston? Rest is literal from the ad. I called just now to >see if it was still available, but no answer. I have no affiliation >with the seller. > >===== > >ITHACA INTERSYS DPS-1. This is an extremely rare S-100 bus minicomputer >from 1979. Mint cond & has many cards inside, all orig. It also comes >w/ the mathcing Ithaca dual 8" drive encl. 2 terminals & 2 other drives >that can go w/it. 1 of these recently sold on E-Bay for $4000. Priced >for quick sale, $1000; Call Aaron 2:30-9:30PM. (Townsend) 978-597-8018 > >[I believe this is a residential number. GMT-0500. --S.] > > > >

23 years, 5 months

Ohio Scientific Challenger 1-P

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > I pretty sure that Mike Haas has AT LEAST one. Bob Rief and I located a stash of OLD computer stuff in Gainsville and bought all the S-100 stuff (a truck load!) and turned Mike unto the rest of it including a couple of OS computers and a Motorola Exorcisor machine. Needless to say he got everything that we left! Okay, so what about this thing? Trash? Treasure? Scarce? Common? Is it interesting enough that I should try to add one to my collection of 8-bitters here? Later -- Glen 0/0

23 years, 5 months

Need datasheet for AT&T T7525 codec 1991-1994

by foo＠siconic.com

Hi. I need a data sheet for an AT&T T7525 codec from the 1991-1994 timeframe. The data sheet must be dated. If not, then I need the entire databook. There is a cash reward for this. If you've got this, please reply to me at <sellam(a)vintage.org>. Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 5 months

Ohio Scientific Challenger 1-P

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Does anyone have any information on this computer? TIA -- Glen Goodwin If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

23 years, 5 months

(Fwd) Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order

by lgwalker＠mts.net

This seemed to not get thru a classic talk screening. Could you give me reasons why this shouldn't have been posted ? ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Lawrence Walker <lgwalker(a)mts.net> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF Send reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net Date sent: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:12:23 -0600 No I think you're wrong here Sellam. He's more like genital lice. A parasite. What is more interesting is that he had the audacity to try and discredit the value of Michaels book on a list of classic computer enthusiasts. Michaels contributions to the computer community go back to the days of Micro 80 and his newsletter is a valued resource. As is obvious this creep's main concern is making a buck off recent interest in older computers despite all the appeals to the higher virtues of his contribution to blah, blah, blah. The usual tactic of a charlatan. A while back an interesting poster to the list, a scrap dealer who could have offerred us insight into the workings of that world was harassed off the list. I viewed that as unfortunate but slime like this who selfservingly slag an info- source valueable cause it might undermine their preying on unknowledgeable collectors is beyond redemption. Lawrence > On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Mail List wrote: > > > How is it you feel you have a right to pass judgement on me? > > Because you're a dick. > > > No, I was concerned that the data sources might be incomplete and fail > > to "conveniently" acknowledge the commercial market sector. You know, > > that portion of the economy that is encumbered with real expenses ( like > > marketing expenses, payroll, taxes, etc. ) and that provides jobs ( for > > those that still have one ) and therefore has to charge prices for their > > goods and services which allows them to meet those expenses and remain in > > operation. > > Look, the book is called _Collectible *MICROCOMPUTERS*_. Sure the LSI-11 is a > microcomputer, but that was conveniently left out. There is no pricing > information for PDP stuff, so you can continue to ask whatever the hell you > like for it. > > The prices in the book were based on a mixture of actual scarcity (i.e. > supply), demand, gut feeling, and past sales, in that order. At least > that is how I approached it when Michael consulted with me on the pricing. I > can't speak for Michael, as he had final say as to how to value each machine > since it was his book. I think he did a terrific job. The values are > reasonable. The values are based on what a machine might go for in the real > world, not what it would sell for on eBay if the seller was a dealer and had > overhead such as taxes and marketing and payroll, etc. > > Since when does ANY value guide take this into account? You are now > arguing for the sake of arguing. Just admin you're a dick and move on. > We'll forget about you soon enough. > > > Don't lament when you're out of work, when you have > > previously condemned that sector that provided you your jobs. Don't > > lament when you see the value of your retirement accounts decline in > > value when you condemn those companies that your very same account is > > invested in, decline in value, as you complain about their prices ( no > > competent fund manager invests funds in the average eBay seller ). This > > thing called the economy is something we are all in together. Soil that > > where you eat, and you may find the food no longer edible. > > Ok, George Bush, we'll allow you to attack Iraq just to get you to shut > up. > > <violins> > > > You know, I used to believe that if everybody worked together, everybody > > could see some benefit from that cooperative relationship, whether that be > > parts you have a use for, or cash to buy parts you want, etc. There have > > been times that I could have run something by you that would have helped you > > out, but previous contact seemed to indicate that you were all about > > yourself only. I have since given up. My impression was that you can't stand > > to see anyone else realize any benefit from their contribution. You want it > > all for yourself. So you have closed off those opportunities. > > </violins> > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * > ------- End of forwarded message ------- lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

23 years, 5 months

Enhancing RT-11 and Fixing RT-11 Bugs

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Although this list is semi-public, I thought it best to keep this inquiry a bit more limited than immediately posting this in alt.sys.pdp11 and vmsnet.pdp-11. If I don't receive any replies from classiccmp, then I will try those two newsgroups, but any feedback from classiccmp would be greatly appreciated so that obvious (but not to me) aspects of this content that are inappropriate can be changed. Note that since V5.03 of RT-11 was released in 1985, I am abiding by the ten year rule. Please note that I realize that there is almost no interest in fixing bugs in RT-11, let alone producing enhancements. If you feel that such activity is best left to Mentec or you don't wish to participate, then read no further. As for why I enjoy fixing bugs in RT-11 and making enhancements, the reason must be the same as for someone who climbs Mount Everest - because it is there! As of November 2002, V5.07 of RT-11 was 4 years old, having been released in November 1998. Even if Mentec does eventually allow hobby use of versions of RT-11 subsequent to V5.03, especially V5.07, I just can't believe that Mentec will ever spend the money to decide to release another version of RT-11 when there are already insufficient sales to even support selling RT-11 and all of the layered products. My suggestion is that the very few individuals who are still interested in fixing bugs and writing code to enhance RT-11 pool their resources. While there are many minor and several major bugs still in RT-11, it no longer seems likely that there will be a further release. If you are interested in bug fixes and extensions to RT-11, along with support for V5.03 which may be used as a hobby version of RT-11 under the Supnik (SIMH) emulator, I would appreciate being part of, even leading if no one else is willing, a small group to share and define future extensions to RT-11 as well as fixing the current bugs. If no one replies, I guess I will lead a one person group. But even someone who is interested, but might only wish to comment on how and which bugs, along with any enhancements should be undertaken, would be extremely helpful. Also if you are only interested in using the enhanced features of a future RT-11 and NOT even in being a beta tester, you can still provide valuable help by stating which features would be of use. For example, at the very least and until the hobby license allows later versions of RT-11 after V5.03 to be used, a Y2K compliant V5.03 of RT-11 would seem to be reasonable. While I would rather spend my time fixing the bugs and making enhancements to V5.07, there may be sufficient interest to make V5.03 Y2K compliant until the hobby license for at least RT-11 (as opposed to RSTS/E and RSX-11) is extended. Another extension that would seem to be in order while there is sufficient expertise around is to allow for dates beyond 2099. For example, current VMS 64 bit implementations probably allow for the year 25,000. Extending the DATE value significantly beyond 2099 to at least 9999 will require at least 5 MORE bits to be used for the DATE value within the resident monitor and in random file directories. I also have looked at the implementation of a PH: (PATH pseudo device HANDLER) that could act like the Symbolic Name List in VMS or the PATH NAME in DOS. And an enhancement I have thought about would be the ability to boot and execute RT-11 within a DSK file, i.e. allow the LD: to be a System Device bootable using DUP. Another might be to allow more RT-11 partitions to be active for MSCP device drivers instead of only 64 RT-11 partitions - and if feasible, 256 RT-11 partitions depending on how RT-11 handles characters in the third character of the device name. Of course, 2 extra bits would need to be found in the queue element. As far as I understand, all future changes to RT-11 (both bug fixes and extensions) are unlikely to be used by any commercial sites. Further, in order to attempt to be compliant with the current and any future hobby license from Mentec, I suggest that all changes to RT-11 be made available ONLY for hobby use unless they have Mentec's approval for use by commercial users. If anyone at Mentec is reading this, I suggest that contact be made to arrange for this aspect of the use of any changes made to RT-11 that are not made by Mentec. Obviously, if there is no contact with Mentec, NONE of the changes will be approved of or supported by Mentec - which is probably the BEST solution since then the users will do all the work and coordination for the changes that are needed as well as being responsible to ensure that the changes are bug free and work correctly. However, a win/win solution might be for Mentec to allow V5.07 of RT-11 to be used by hobby users and for the bug fixes (especially the bug fixes) and enhancements to continue to be sold by Mentec to the commercial users after they are provided without charge to Mentec by the hobby community. I don't know if this arrangement has ever been made between the manufacturer and the hobby community, but I can't see how it would hurt Mentec. In this regard, a completely ISO 9000 compliant version of RT-11 might even be possible. About the only utility still needing 4 digit years is MACRO-11 and that is already done - in a private version I did in 1997. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- To obtain the original e-mail address, please remove the ten characters which immediately follow the 'at'. If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 5 months

watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

At 01:37 AM 11/9/02 -0500, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > > What about molten iron :-) > >Sounds good, as long as you _slowly_ lower them into it, like the 'T1000' Doesn't work, the molten iron gives off a ton of IR heat. I used to work in a steel mill and people would toss old pallets into molten iron carriers and about 10 feet up they would burst into flame. Falling into boiling water is much worse I am told.

23 years, 5 months

11/44 - Dilog update

by jpl15＠panix.com

Number one, I misread the model number of the ESDI card that failed: it's a Dilog DU686... sorry, sorry! A moment with Google turns up that not only is Dilog still in business (www.dilog.com) but that they sell and service a large number of Unibus *and* Qbus cards. It turns out that the DU686 is ESDI / MSCP and they'll fix dead ones for only $250... $350 with revs, ECOs, and updates. The main office is in Switzerland, branch in Tustin, CA. No prices for new stuff listed on the sites, but I'll phone them Monday and see... they have SCSI and Pertec formatters, and Unibus adapters to make modern small SCSI drives look like a Spindle Farm, sans the noise, weight, and floor-space. Cheers John

23 years, 5 months

IBM 6546-00N monitor focus

by Qstieee＠aol.com

This has marketing name G52. It is a 15" PC type monitor. I'm looking for information on how to adjust the focus. Images and text are good, bright color and convergence but not exactly in focus. Suspect an internal adjustment; nothing apparent on built-in on-screen menu.

23 years, 5 months

VAX manuals found

by Qstieee＠aol.com

I came across these DEC VAX manuals while looking for something else. Am not selling, but will provide information from these if needed non-commercially. DECserver 300 RF30 / RF71 R215F KFQSA BA46 RRD42 StorageWorks family user guide VMS 5.5-2 release notes VMS 5.5 upgrade

23 years, 5 months

Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 available (?)

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Just spotted this in last week's Want Advertiser - didn't get around to reading the computer section... Located in Townsend, MA maybe an hour out of Boston? Rest is literal from the ad. I called just now to see if it was still available, but no answer. I have no affiliation with the seller. ===== ITHACA INTERSYS DPS-1. This is an extremely rare S-100 bus minicomputer >from 1979. Mint cond & has many cards inside, all orig. It also comes w/ the mathcing Ithaca dual 8" drive encl. 2 terminals & 2 other drives that can go w/it. 1 of these recently sold on E-Bay for $4000. Priced for quick sale, $1000; Call Aaron 2:30-9:30PM. (Townsend) 978-597-8018 [I believe this is a residential number. GMT-0500. --S.]

23 years, 5 months

Signetics 2650

by phillipmilks＠juno.com

I'd like to find (buy) these IC's & equipment, development systems, etc for it. E.G. Instructor 50, SBC w/ optical card reader, etc. TIA ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

23 years, 5 months

Cray T3-D Supercomputer Gov't Auction

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>I also think this is a good idea. It would give the RCS folks a >bit more publicity and general visibility. I'm not overly fond of >Providence, RI, but the area near Brown University is nice. It'd >still be easy for people to stay in Boston and catch a train >(or drive) down to the event. There is also the proximity to the RICM... Megan

23 years, 5 months

watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by fernande＠internet1.net

Watch out for this, guys! This was sent to me, and looks very real, if you click on the link. They ask for everything and more. The amount of info they ask for, would make it very easy to take your identity, money, etc!! Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA -------- Original Message -------- From: - Fri Nov 08 01:57:42 2002 X-UIDL: Xm-!!JL7"!L5O"!\d*"! X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: <aw-verify(a)ebay.com> Delivered-To: fernande(a)internet1.net Received: from EyeDea01 (165.113.252.64.snet.net [64.252.113.165]) by mailhost.internet1.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3149CB122 for <fernande(a)internet1.net>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:45:55 -0500 (EST) From: aw-verify(a)ebay.com Subject: Access restricted: Verify your account information. To: fernande(a)internet1.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: aw-verify(a)ebay.com Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:45:39 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Library: Indy 9.0.3-B X-Mailer: Foxmail Message-Id: <20021108064555.3149CB122(a)mailhost.internet1.net> X-UIDL: Xm-!!JL7"!L5O"!\d*"! Dear eBay* *User, During our regular update and verification of the accounts, we couldn't verify your current information. Either your information has changed or it is incomplete. As a result, your access to bid or buy on eBay has been restricted. To start using your eBay account fully, *please update and verify your information by clicking below* : <a>https://scgi.ebay.com/saw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?VerifyInformation <http://www.overgrow.org/https://scgi.ebay.com/saw-cgi/verify.htm?eBayISAPI.… &raccept=0> Regards, *eBay* ***Please Do Not Reply To This E-Mail As You Will Not Receive A Response***

23 years, 5 months

Cray T3-D Supercomputer Gov't Auction

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>Hey, here's an idea - hold VCFeast 2.0 in the RCS mill, if a big room is >available. It has that wonderful DEC Maynard look about it. And we will >not have to move either the KL10D or the Univac 9300. I like that... I could display the 11/70 (decdatasystem570)... I'll have to get some time to work on it... Megan

23 years, 5 months

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