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Infoserver 1000

by vance＠neurotica.com

Does anyone know where I might be able to get the software and manuals for one of these tiny beasties? Peace... Sridhar

23 years, 4 months

list newbie

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

Since I was offering VAX bits that someone might want, someone suggested that I indicate where I am located. Well, I am located in the Seattle area. alan

23 years, 4 months

DEC Docs @ Gordon Bell's Homepage

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I don't know if this has been linked to before, but I found it to have > a few useful documents, including the System User's Guide to RT-11 V3. > > Gordon Bell's home page: > http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/ > > His CyberMuseum: > http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/CyberMuseumPubs.htm > > The DEC part of his CyberMuseum: > http://research.microsoft.com/Users/gbell/Digital/DECMuseum.htm Interesting, a bunch of that stuff looks to be new, and it looks like the new stuff might be better done (as I recall he didn't have PDF's up before). After taking just a quick peek, I can see I'll have to have a better look at stuff once I can find the time. Zane

23 years, 4 months

DEC Docs @ Gordon Bell's Homepage

by jss＠subatomix.com

I don't know if this has been linked to before, but I found it to have a few useful documents, including the System User's Guide to RT-11 V3. Gordon Bell's home page: http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/ His CyberMuseum: http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/CyberMuseumPubs.htm The DEC part of his CyberMuseum: http://research.microsoft.com/Users/gbell/Digital/DECMuseum.htm -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 4 months

Cheap PCBs

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jim Kearney" <jim(a)jkearney.com> > > >> Back to the original question: I'm not sure how to do a non-gerber board >> inexpensively. If the artwork is in a pdf file (or even a tif from a >> scan), you would need to find a board house that could use it, but none >> come to mind. > >Olimex (in Bulgaria) claims to accept them, but I don't think you would get >any holes drilled. > >I just tried to convert a PDF file to Gerber by going to a BMP file and then >converting that to an Eagle CAD script file, but it eventually failed >because Eagle couldn't handle the number of rectangles that the simplistic >converter generated. In principle it could work, if the converter made >bigger rectangles than one per source pixel. > >LEADtools supports Gerber format as output in their libraries, so any of >their tools might work. For example, ePrint >(http://www.leadtools.com/Utilities/PrinterDriver/eprint_printer_driver.htm) >is a generic Windows printer driver that has Gerber in its output format >list. > >None of these work very well, though, because they're a lot of work and you >don't have a drill file. I think in the end the only real solution is to >get a Gerber file somehow, even if you have to re-enter the design in your >CAD software. Toner transfer, iron-on and CNC milling all take far too much >work for not particularly good results. > > Hi Gerber format is not all that complicated. It seems that someone with a little cleverness could write a simple mouse program that would digitize mouse movements and buttons. It was a while back but I used to hand fix bad gerber files to get PC boards made. It seems that most programs still have bugs and will trash some of the commands. I'd display the gerber file on the screen and look for the big trapezoid or some other messed up thing. I'd then go in and change it back to the correct rectangle or what ever. It has been a number of years but like I said, it wasn't that complicated. You need to consider that is was a direct input sequence of moves for a gerber plotter. Dwight

23 years, 4 months

Recent VAX Adventures (Long)

by carlos_murillo＠epm.net.co

At 12:46 AM 11/21/02 -0500, you wrote: >Since Compaq bought DEC, and then HP bought/merged with Compaq, yes, HP >owns DEC's IP. For info on the OpenVMS hobbyist program, see: > >http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/index.html or >http://www.encompassus.com to become a member of Encompass (what was >DECUS) so you can participate in the OpenVMS hobbyist program. So what happened regarding membership after all? I remember that all emails from Encompass up to June/July seemed to imply that from then on you needed to be a paying member in order to belong to Encompass. carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

23 years, 4 months

CompuPro Net 100?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Steve Jones" <classiccmp(a)crash.com> wrote: > Anybody have a one-line description of the CompuPro Net 100? Was > this Ethernet, serial, avian carrier...? Arcnet. -Frank McConnell

23 years, 4 months

How much would this be worth?

by excellrichard＠www.com

Bit of a tricky question, but one that needs to be asked as i might purchase one in A1 condition soon- and i don't want to be paying over the odds for it. INTEL INTELLEC-8 - (See attachment) Model No. 8 - 84 Serial No. 245 S.D. 4.75 (Production Date?) Fitted with the following cards:- 1. Intel front panel Control Console card. imm 8 - 73 2. Intel CPU. card. imm 8 - 83 (D8080AFC) 3. Intel 4k RAM Card. E48778 - 05 0042000 4. Intel 4k RAM Card. E48778 - 05 0042000 5. Intel I.O. module card 1000264 - 02 6. Intel PROM Programmer Module card E48778 - 0000090 7. Intel PROM memory module card. imm6-26 8. Mesonix 4K RAM Card 9. Mesonix I.O. Controller card (See Mesonix Casette Unit) INTELLEC8 - INSTRUCTION MANUAL The original instruction manual, although carefully preserved, now appears to be missing and may well be lost. The Intellec8 will however be supplied with a later instruction manual for the Intellec8/MOD 80, which explains how it all works complete with a multitude of schematics etc. but unfortunately missing the first and part of the second chapter.Chapter 1 - missing. Chapter 2 - The imm8 - 83 CPU Card mostly intact - includes timing, schematics & pinout diagrams.Chapter 3 - The imm8-61 Input/Output Card Chapter 4 - The imm8-63 Output Card Chapter 5 - The imm6-28 RAM Card Chapter 6 - The imm6-26 PROM Card Chapter 7 - The Intellec 8/MOD 80 Control Console Chapter 8 - The Chassis, motherboard and power supplies Chapter 9 - The imm6-76 Programmer Module Chapter 10 - The Intellec 8/MOD 80 system utilisation Appendix A - Instruction set summary Appendix B - Electrical characteristics of logic elements used in the Intellec 8/MOD 80 CASSETTE TAPE UNIT - MESONIX AUTOMATION LTD. (See photo) Model No. - Fitted DCR-3 Tape Unit (Phillips?) Serial No. - Mesonix Tape Storage Unit. Production Date 1976? STAND ALONE TAPE READER/TRANSMITTER - ADDMASTER 606 (See photo) Model No.606 - (Parallel Output) Serial No.606136 Production Date 1975. DESKTOP PUNCH STATION - LITTON - SWEDA INTERNATIONAL, INC. (See Photo) ROYTRON 528 PUNCH Model No. 528 Serial No. 528 - 23 - 3382 --------------------------------------------------- WWW.COM - Where The Web Begins! http://www.www.com/

23 years, 4 months

Hey Sellam, since it beats me which email address works best...

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I'll just write here... lol.. Was looking at the pics of your DPS-6, and I think you actually have 3 systems, the 2 smaller cabinets appear to each be a Microsystem 6 type machine... FWIW Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 4 months

Zilog System 8000 Model 31 available in Australia

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

The System 8000 is not really a development system... They are full-on minicomputer-type UNIX machines.. It's a so-called "Super-micro"... I am holding an ad from the DEC Professional proclaiming that the sucker can run DIBOL... I really have to wonder if anyone ever ported DIBOL to any system besides the System 8000, I wouldn't think there was enough of a user base to justify doing such a thing... Anyway, it is a Z8000-based UNIX minicomputer (yes I'm aware my definition of minicomputer may vary from some listmembers). Someone should save it! It's freakin' cool... I wish I could find one, stateside of course... Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 4 months

Fwd: CDP18S60 Evaluation Kit?

by jss＠subatomix.com

Can anyone help this person out? ---------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Paolo Malara <Paolo.Malara(a)e2vtechnologies.com> To: classiccmp-admin(a)classiccmp.org Date: Thursday, November 21, 2002, 1:51:23 AM Subject: CDP18S60 Evaluation Kit The CDP18S60 is an evaluation kit for the CDP1802 microprocessor, it is not very common and is used in some old microprocessor controlled machines. Does anyone have any data or schematics on the evaluation kit mentioned above? ---------- End forwarded message ---------- -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 4 months

CompuPro Net 100?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Anybody have a one-line description of the CompuPro Net 100? Was this Ethernet, serial, avian carrier...? Google seems to come up shy on this one, except for an old "for sale" posting to this list. Herb Johnson has docs, but I'm just trying to find out exactly what it did at this point... Thanks, --Steve.

23 years, 4 months

WTB: Codar QTimer II Model 102

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Does anyone have any of these Qbus boards that I can buy? They have a TOY that has a window of 100 years. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 4 months

Cheap PCBs

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

Hi Jim: I'll second that vote -- Advanced Circuits (www.4pcb.com) is a great place. I have done many boards there, proto and production. Quotes, and order status, is online 24/7. But I think they only take gerber cad files. Back to the original question: I'm not sure how to do a non-gerber board inexpensively. If the artwork is in a pdf file (or even a tif from a scan), you would need to find a board house that could use it, but none come to mind. To make it yourself, you can print the pdf to lino film and make a board using sensitized board material from kepro, then etching, immersion-tin dip... Sheesh, I did a lot of those years back. Even the best homemade etched board is shitty though. And you can't cut corners on the pricey lino film. Transparencies from an inkjet or laser may look good, but the black is not opaque enough for uv exposure. Board material and chemicals are not cheap either, so it gets pricey, and you still end up with a pretty crappy board. There is some laser printer material that you can print and then iron onto a bare copper board (then etch), but I have never used it. Can't imagine you could reliably use small geometry. But the cost is now just a cheap plain board, the laser material, and some acid. Maybe an aquarium heater to speed up etching. For a one-off board, and if the board is simple and just needs fat traces (this capacitor board may well be), you can also simply get a bare board, drill component/mounting holes, and isolate the "traces" but cutting through the copper appropriately with a dremel or xacto. You can even use double-sided material and isolate the upper ground plane with a small countersink at the component holes. I have also found a that a roll of adhesive copper tape can be very handy in times like this. gil >From: "Jim Kearney" <jim(a)jkearney.com> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Cheap PCBs >Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:32:55 -0500 >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > >For only a few dollars more, you can get more boards with solder mask and >silkscreen. www.4pcb.com will do boards up to 150 sq inches for $33 ea in >quantity 3 and up, including mask and legend. www.e-teknet.com does qty 4 >up to 55 sq inches with mask and legend for only $22.99 each. I've used >both of them and the quality has been excellent. > >Jim ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

23 years, 4 months

Looking for HP-UX and/or Pascal Environment for HP9000/382

by bernd＠kopriva.de

After a long with HP i lost ... ... they are not able to give me any operating system for my HP9000/382. They told me, that they won't support that machine anymore, and they don't have any installation media ... ... they told me, that i've to look "elsewhere" :-( ... so i'm asking here, if there is anyone out, who will share a copy ... Thanks Bernd Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de D-71397 Leutenbach Germany

23 years, 4 months

HVD SCSI

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I'm trying to find some info on HVD SCSI. I know for Terminators I need HVD SCSI Terminators, but what about cables. Will any old 68-pin SCSI cable do, or do I need special cables? Also, does anyone have any favorite vendors that sell this sort of thing? Zane

23 years, 4 months

Recent VAX Adventures (Long)

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

What is this "hobbyist program" and "licensing" that is being mentioned? Is HP controlling use of old DEC stuff or something? thanks, gil >Message: 11 >Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:00:14 -0600 >From: Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: Recent VAX Adventures (Long) >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, Antonio Carlini wrote: >> If these are original DEC media tapes (rather than people's data) it might >> be possible to persuade him not to erase them, since the hobbyist program >> allows you to use them. (OTOH it might be safer to wipe them any way from >> <name>'s point of view). > >He said that some contain student data. So those have to get bulked. > >He also said that he had software but I couldn't have it. I told him about >the hobbyist program, but at the time I didn't know enough about it to >really say anything knowledgable. If I told him I was licensed for sure, he >might change his mind. > >I just filled out the online Encompass Associate membership form. Anyone >know how long it takes to get a response? > >-- >Jeffrey Sharp > ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

23 years, 4 months

ATTN: Jeffrey Sharp (sorry for posting to the list but...)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Jeff, This is what I got when I tried to reply to your e-mail, using jss(a)subatomix.com Hi. This is the qmail-send program at saghotta.pair.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <www.horseville.com@saghotta.pair.com>: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) Is there a better e-mail to use??? Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 4 months

OT: NCR Teradata 'mainframe'

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I know this is OT by about 5 years, but... if anyone knows much about NCR Teradata systems (specifically a Worldmark 5100M), please contact me off-list. Pat -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 4 months

Altair32 Emulator

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

John: The way the telnet server within the Altair32 works is that it's activated upon the "first" access of a CPU I/O port by a running program. So, for example, if you are running a program that doesn't interact with any of the console I/O ports (0/1, 20/21 octal), the telnet server will not be activated and any telnet client will bomb out, complaining that no server is found. So, the sequence I use is to run HyperTerm and "disconnect" from the telnet port (UDP port 23 by the way -- the standard telnet port). Then, I run the emulator, attach disks and "boot" CP/M. I run ZoneAlarm, so I get a notification that a telnet server is starting (with a TCP address of 127.0.0.1), so I allow the access then "connect" HyperTerm. If you don't run ZoneAlarm, you just have to guess the timing when connecting. When booting CP/M, it's no more than a few seconds. If you look at the front panel address LEDs, you can "see" that it drops into an idle loop (the address LEDs appear to only reference a tight range of addresses). This is the signal that the CBIOS is waiting for a "live" connection. If you prefer, you can use the built-in Windows Console. That doesn't have the same connection problems as telnet. With telnet, however, you should be able to reach your Altair across a subnet (although I've never tried it). The disks are full with stuff, and there certainly should be more than 2-3 files. The CP/M 2.2 disk probably has 25 files on it. Rich

23 years, 4 months

osi dbi info needed

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Found the problem, the +5 volt line on the siemans 8 inch drive is shorted - causing the power supply to shutdown. also i inserted the cpu boards (yes two of them) backwords(the osi backplane slot headers are not keyed)(joy, more rebuilding). i am really interested in info on "d & b computer systems" did they make more then clone boards for the osi systems? does anyone have the dip switch tables for the two banks of switches on the dbi cpu boards. the boards i am looking for info on are the dbi db1 (cpu mem and console board) and the d&b db-pfdco1 (fdc/comms board). the fdc board has a 50 pin header for the floppy's but also has a 40 pin header below it. can a 5-1/4 or 3 1/2 floppy drive be interfaced to a osi system? also what is the pinout of the osi/siemans fdd-100-8 e interface connector? it seems to be almost the same as the shugart 50 pin - but how does it work with the read data pin not used in the interface? Bill __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com

23 years, 4 months

It's a good thing :)

by mranalog＠attbi.com

This is a recent email exchange ...... Someone from titanplasticsgroup.com wrote to me: >> I was just going through a bunch of files/prints >> that we are throwing away. >> They are velum hand drawn prints for the Heath >> Co. Want them? Know anyone who might? I answered: > The Heath Co. made many wonderful kits over the > the years. Kits that became a part of many people's > lifes. Of course, most of these people have a favorite > category - Ham radio equipment, test equipment, > computers, home automation, robots, the company itself, > etc. > I am most interested in Heathkit computer related > information. But even if this is not the case, I can > most certainly find and donate it a good home, where > it would be very appreciated. > If you want to send these files to me I can pay the > shipping depending on the amount of material you have. > Thank you for your effort to save this material from > being thrown away. They replied: >> Wow! You guys are passionate about this stuff. I sent >> this email to other people as well. One collector of >> those kits drove up from Benton Harbor (only about an >> hr away) and has already taken them. I thought he was >> going to cry when he saw the prints. Sorry! I replied: > Thanks for finding it a good home. > Many people started a life-long love of electronics with > a Heathkit. And many people were able to pass their > love of electronics down to their children with Heathkits. > So when you find something that reminds you of the > excitement of your youth or time you spent with a parent > to built something together, it becomes a treasured possession. It made me feel great to think that someone would take the time to make old internal files like this available to collectors. Have nice day :) ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

23 years, 4 months

Varieties of Lisa/Early Mac Mice

by jingber＠ix.netcom.com

I'm trying to gather information about the different varieties of Mice that were used on Lisa and early Mac systems. I'm looking for additions/clarifications to this list, specifically which mouse would have been shipped with which system, and if mouse #2 ever existed. Jeff -- #1 - Original Lisa Mouse (Lisa and possibly early Lisa2?): Had a metal ball, long rectangular button, and a "clip"-type retension mechanism on the connector. The mouse port on the Lisa did NOT have metal around the connector as is common on DB-9 female connectors. Instead, there was a plastic "lip" to which the retension clip on the mouse would mate. The bottom of the mouse was sloped and did not have a sharp angle like the M0100 mice. The mouse had a tan colored cord. #2 - (Early Lisa2?): Same as #1 but with standard DB-9 connector instead of the clip-type retension mechainism. Each thumbscrew had an Apple logo embossed at the ends. #3 - Early M0100 (Possibly later Lisa2/Mac XL): Button was not as slender as the Original Lisa Mouse and had a standard DB-9 male connector instead of the clip-type retension mechanism. Each thumbscrew had an Apple logo embossed at the ends. Both the button and cord were tan colored. #4 - Later M0100 (Apple II?): Same as Early M0100 but had a gray button and cord instead of the tan button and cord. The thumbscrews did not have the embossed Apple logos and were somewhat thinner. The internal mechanism was also slightly different than the Early M0100 and are not interchangable.

23 years, 4 months

Heath/Zenith thingy

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Will Jennings" <xds_sigma7(a)hotmail.com> > >Hi, >Does anyone know what exactly a Heath/Zenith SW-3000-A is? The plaque on the Hi Will The SW would indicate that it was a shortwave receiver or tranceiver. Dwight >front says Heath/Zenith Computer-based Instruments, and there is a card in >it with 2 coax connectors that looks like maybe its some kind of broadcast >crud? The machine itself is a rackmount passive backplane 286, with the >video I asked about in it. I really need to take a pic, it is one snazzy >looking piece of hardware. > >Will J > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > >

23 years, 4 months

I need the settings for a Heath/Zenith video card

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Chris, Well I tried 1 closed, 2-6 open, and no video... it was set to 2 and 3 closed, rest open, that produces some kinda static white noise crud on the monitor... The card has a chips + tech chip and an Inmos chip, which I would guess is the RAMDAC. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 4 months

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