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by classiccmp＠crash.com

I recently picked up a couple of ICM-3216s and am hoping the following might make sense to someone more familiar with them. There are two systems comprised of a CPU board, one 4MB memory board, and an ICM-SIO-M-08 board with its own 32016, 32201, and four 2681 DUARTs for 8 serial ports. The SIO board in front of me is a 980600014-001 Rev D (the 001 and D are hand written) The EPROMs in U5 and U6 show Rev B on their labels, and I can give the full P/N if it will help. When retired from service several-many years ago, these machines were timesharing hosts and used all these serial ports. Now when I try to power up either system with the SIO board in the stack, the system won't initialize. If I remove the SIO from the stack the system will initialize and I can boot Unix on one box, or talk to the monitor on the other (disk won't spin). Does this make sense to anyone familiar with these systems? I suspect someone else has seen this, given the way it's impacting both systems... I suppose I'll start checking out the third box, which lacks an SIO, and see what it does with it. Thanks for any thoughts, or even unrelated reminisences about the ICMs or the 32k in general. --Steve. Steve Jones spamfree.crash.com!smj Arlington, Mass. CRASH!! Computing (any spambots parse bang paths?) +1 781 xxx yyyy "Chaos will ensue if the variable i is altered..." - SysV Programmers Guide

23 years, 4 months

OT: WebTV keyboard

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

As most of you don't know, I work for Cirrus Logic, developing channels and controllers for DVD drives. I am currently working on some test software to run on a DVD player (developed by a group in Fremont and Fort Wayne), and I want to hook a keyboard to it. After much pondering, it seems the IR interface might be configured to talk to an IR keyboard, and the only 'standard' keyboard seems to be the WebTV keyboard. Does anyone have information on this keyboard? It seems like the RCA model is being dumped by Circuit City, but It doesn't appear MS is closing down the service... Any hardware info on the keyboard would be appreciated! Thanks, Clint

23 years, 4 months

Bringing an 11/750 power supply back to life

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

Before I got my VAX, it went down because the power supply went out. I have the print set and the 'Technical Description' document for the power supply and I am fairly comfortable dealing with this stuff, but I am not an expert. If I attempt to repair the power supply myself, is there anything that I should avoid doing so I don't kill myself? alan

23 years, 4 months

Newbie enquiries

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

Hi All, I found some old computer book during our spring clean (I'm in the southern hemisphere) and I got all nostalgic for the first computer I ever programmed a PDP-11/0?. The reason for the question mark is I cannot definitely remember if it was an 03, 04, or 05. So I was hoping I might fire off a bit of my remembered details, and someone here could help me definitively identify the machine. I have done some web searching and I have not been able to sort it out yet. The system comprised a CPU and dual 8" floppy in a half height rack, on top of which sat a marked sense card reader, and in the corner was a DEC line printer. My memory of the CPU front panel is that it looks somewhat like an 11/34 picture I found in the user manual PDF with the programmers console. But I definitely remember it as an "slash zero" something model, so I believe that it was an 04. However the only picture of an 04 I have found to date has a rather basic looking programmers panel, by basic I mean as it is simple white text on black panel and buttons. I seem to remember the octal keypad had a border drawn on the pane and was a little bit smarter looking, maybe there were updated cosmetic version of the panel. The system booted straight to a local derivative of FORTRAN (MONECS FORTRAN), so we were insulated from the hardware and I therefore have no memory or interface card details. Any help in IDing the machine would be greatly appreciated. Now this leads me to the second reason for this message. I would like to collect a sample of the machine in question, but I am unsure of how to proceed. What are your tried and tested ways of locating such antique hardware? Also I saw an ebay auction for two RK05 disk packs today. Would these be usable with an 11/0? system? And if so what would be a reasonable price to pay? I have lurked on the list for a few weeks now, and think that I shall stick around and get into the classic computer collecting myself (time and wife permitting). OH BTW, I contacted Charles L. regarding his Zilog 8000 system (the Z8000 being another chip I found interesting when it came out). He is unsure if he actually wants to part with the machine at the present time. That might just be my first dead end lead in this new hobby of mine. Thanks in advance, David Kane

23 years, 4 months

Classic computer exhibition, Grenoble France

by hansp＠aconit.org

Today I spent the day setting up our little 100 square meter exhibition tracing 50 years of computing in Grenoble, France. For anyone in the area from tomorrow til December 2 the exhibition will be open from 10:00 till 18:30 each day except Tuesday at the Grenoble Museum, Place Lavalette (Tram B , Notre Dame stop) Among the classic machine on exhibit are a Bull Gamma 3, the panel from an IBM 360/67, a (working) 1130, a (working) PDP-8/m, a Telemechanique 1600, a Micral N, a Thomson MO5, a Goupil 2. Hopefully we can get pictures on the web over the next week for those unable to attend. -- hbp

23 years, 4 months

IBM Microchannel SVGA card

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/22/2002 2:04:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, pat(a)purdueriots.com writes: << I've got an MCA SVGA-NI Display Adaptor/A sitting here that I'd like to find display drivers for some OS. Does anyone know where I can find some? I've found the ADF files, but no drivers for any version of Winderz, or OS/2 (or XFree86 on linux, but I'm doubtful I'll find anything to work there). It's FRU number is 71G4877. >> That's a plain old server display card, most likely from a 9595 type. Best you can get is VGA in OS/2. Fairly useless, get XGA-2 instead. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 4 months

Zilog System 8000 Model 31 available in Australia

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hmm, I have an NMOS PACE.. does that count as odd? Will J _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 4 months

Zilog System 8000 Model 31 available in Australia

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hah, I wish I had much info on it.. I pulled it from, of all things, an old automotive test system... I think the part number is INS8900.. that sounds right... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 4 months

fall cleaning

by oliv555＠arrl.net

Been doing my annual cleanout, need to find new homes for these items. Preference to local pickup (Houston), will consider shipping remaining items (u pay ship). Thanks. -nick free stuff: -IBM RS6000-C10, working -MAC Performa 450, working -DEQNA (M7504) w/cabkit, qbus ethernet -KDA50 (M7164, M7165), qbus sdi disk control -Cabletron m800 multiport xcvr docs: -MSV11-M (m7506) User Guide -DEC LA36 engineering drawings -(DEC)Documation M200 card reader tech manual -IBM 29 Card Punch Reference manual -HP 1615 Logic Analyzer service manual -DF03 modem user guide -DR11-B/DA11-B manual -DSD 4120 user guide -UDA50 user guide -UDA50 tech summary -VT330/340 prog ref (Vol 1 & Vol 2) For Sale: VS4000/model 60 & matching SZ16c storage expansion .. $30 +manual +lk401 +mouse(puck) +cables

23 years, 4 months

Recent VAX Adventures (Long)

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Eric? Did you get my prev. message? -f

23 years, 4 months

Mac Haul (& ImageWriters II's available)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Mac Haul (& ImageWriters II's available) I found out yesterday morning just how many Macs will fit in my car. Here's the list: Performa 6116CD - 1 Performa 400 - 1 LC475 - 15 LC II - 1 LC - 1 IIsi - 1 IIe - 1 with 2 Disk II's and a couple of separate spares. SE - 3 Monitors - 14" Color Display - 9, plus one other with the odd connector for the 6116 ImageWriter II - 5 So what's that? Two dozen machines, 10 monitors, and five printers. No wonder my car was riding low. Most of the above was delivered to a private church school last night. I have a friend whose daughter attends the school, and he maintains their machines in his spare time. In fact, I doubt the school would have many computers if it were not for his efforts. So I try to help out some. All of these came from a local Intel reseller. He has no interest in Macs and I knew that he had just gotten in several pallets of hardware that included the above machines. So my friend got the school to approve $50 for me to get as much hardware as I could. I went in and made a deal for what I could and talked the reseller into donating the rest with a promise of a letter from the school to cover the donation. In essence, all the machines you can cram in one car for $50. There was a gotcha in this of course. I had to take the ImageWriters. As we were unloading, I gave my friend the option of refusing them. He did. So I have 5 ImageWriter II's, one is missing a cover. I would like to get rid of these, so I will make these available to the list. However, I don't have time right now to either store them or mess with shipping. So if you want these, they are available for PICKUP ONLY just south of Terre Haute, Indiana, USA. The business next to me allows me to fill their unused dumpster space on Wednesday night just prior to Thursday's pick up. If you want these they will have to be out of here by next Wednesday, 11/27/02. Mike Thompson

23 years, 4 months

Bringing an 11/750 power supply back to life

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Before I got my VAX, it went down because the power supply went out. I have the print set and the >'Technical Description' document for the power supply and I am fairly comfortable dealing with this >stuff, but I am not an expert. The print sets are already on the web but is there any chance of scanning the PSU TD? Yours is the 3rd or 4th VAX-11/750 with potential PSU issues mentioned here in the last year or so. >If I attempt to repair the power supply myself, is there anything that I should avoid doing so I >don't kill myself? Keep away from the machine and you'll be safe :-) Seriously, think about each step you are taking, don't do anything unless you think you know what you are doing and why, keep one hand in a pocket or behind your back, and (most important I guess) make sure there is someone nearby who knows what you are up to and what to do if they find you writhing on the ground. If you post more details about the symptoms (which, if any, lights come on, what readings you have already taken etc) I expect you'll find this list full of useful advice. Antonio

23 years, 4 months

Lawsuit over the use of Microsoft's "Word"?

by foo＠siconic.com

Has there ever been a lawsuit over Microsoft's trademark of the word "Word" for its word processor that anyone knows of? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 4 months

Osborne 1 single-density/double-density questions

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

Hi Don: Yes! Using the " key for drive-B boot on the Osborne worked. And this double-density unit booted with my single-density software. That's the first the machine has booted cp/m. When I try to access drive A, it sounds like the stepper is constantly driving the head against a stop. I'll need to check the drive out. It didn't want to format a disk properly though. Does this mean that a proper double-density version of cp/m is needed? I need to get a pc together to run this 22DISK I've been hearing about. thanks, gil At 12:29 PM 11/21/02 -0800, you wrote: > > >On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, gil smith wrote: > >The difference between the SD and DD machines is a small daughter card >that fits between the floppy drive header on the motherboard and the >ribboncable to the drives. The drives themselves are the same for both >SD and DD. > >You can try to boot from your B drive by depressing right shift and the >'/" keys. Depressing Return/Enter will return to A boot. > > - don ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

23 years, 4 months

OT Bush and Canada

by wmsmith＠earthlink.net

> > the press misunderstood the Canadian official... > > saying "What a moron" in reference to George Dubya. > > > In some circles up here there is a slang phrase of approval > > meaning "more on top of it", hipper. I'm sure that's what he > > meant. > > Unclear. > Is the Canadian Official saying that He himself is a moron, > so that George Bush is hip by association? Explain. > > John A. > I think he's saying that instead of "moron" the official may have said "more on", as in, "that George Bush, he's really 'more on'". -W

23 years, 4 months

OT Bush and Canada

by classiccmp＠crash.com

> As a Canadian, I must explain to our US neighbors that the press > misunderstood the Canadian official at the Prague meetings who was > reported as saying "What a moron" in reference to George Dubya. While our current leadership ranges from stupid and grasping to downright evil and ready to shred our Constitution, many of us are still capable of rational thought. He's a president, and while the office deserves respect the man himself must still be judged on his own merits. And, just my opinion, found severely wanting... So thanks for the yucks, and don't bother writing to me directly. Admiral Poindexter should be dispatching the brown shirts to have a chat with me as soon as this message passes through his current sieve. Now, where did I put that code for the old NSA line-eater appender... Sigh, --Steve.

23 years, 4 months

Cheap PCBs

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

For a Gerber RS-273X Format document, see: http://www.maniabarco.com/transdown/rs274xrevd_e.pdf The X format contains all cad data, whereas the RS-274D format needs a separate exellon-format drill file as well. gil ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

23 years, 4 months

Intel MCA Above Board

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have an MCA board here (probably pulled from a PS/2, but I really am not sure where it came from). Its marked as an Intel Above Board MC. And currently has 8 30 pin SIMMS on it (1 MB each it looks like). From what I can find, I think this is just a normal above board memory expansion card (max 32 MB?) However, there is also a 50 pin IDC connector on it. Is that for connecting to a daughter card? I just want to confirm that fact, and that this isn't really some kind of a SCSI controller with a nice buffer on it. I thought the Above Boards were just memory cards, but you never know. (maybe if I could find something about them on Intel's site... but their AboveBoards support section seems to have vanished) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 4 months

Zilog System 8000 Model 31 available in Australia

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> > >> Ok, how about the 8022 or even the i2920. > >No, though the 8021 (little brother of the 8022) is odd. > > > > Hi Eric I wrote code for the development chip 8021 to test the A/D. I never got one to actually give me a true 8 bits. 6 to 7 someplace was typical. I made a little fixture to plug it into as well. The developement chip was in one of those funny packages, like the 432's. Brings back memories. Dwight

23 years, 4 months

Zilog System 8000 Model 31 available in Australia

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> > >> I guess with Big Brother Intel the best processor designs >> like the 6809 and the PDP-11 are the odd ones. > >Intel's had their share of odd processors as well, such >as the 8035 and 8051. The 8089 as well, though it's not a >general-purpose processor. > >For that matter, the original Pentium is odd, though not all >later ones are. > Ok, how about the 8022 or even the i2920. Dwight

23 years, 4 months

osi docs needed

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Hi all, after searching the archives for info on osi and m/a comm computers, i found this list and subbed to it. i am into mini computers and ham radio as well as most tech fields. currently i'm looking for info and pinouts/schems on the osi boards. i have some spare boards form a osi m/a-comm 220c and a oem of the same but am trying to get a "dbi db80" working. the db-80 uses all osi drives,powersupplies and boards, except for the two cpu/terminal/comms boards labeled "dbi inc db1" the comp also has a ohio memory systems 10" hard drive in it. the machine did work in the early 90's then a strange problem started" upon a floppy command the head would go to the end of the lead screw and the stepper would not stop! now after 6 years in storage i tried the spare boards on a backplane and nothing (great more work to do). i thought the drive might be bad also so i searched the archives on this list and read about the serial/parallel interface that osi used - a-ha! that why osi dosnt use the read data pin on the siemans drive. the drive did head load and step ok when i tested them last week and i got a good index sensor pulse so perhaps the controller was going. if needed i'll recap and replace all the chips on the cards (i hope the eproms (rom) are ok. might anyone have docs on the osi boards? or is thier any osi owners.collectors on the list anymore? if so i'll send the board numbers later. 73 DE N8UHN Bill __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com

23 years, 4 months

Cheap PCBs

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Peter C. Wallace" <pcw(a)mesanet.com> > >On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Jim Kearney wrote: > >> >From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> >> > Gerber format is not all that complicated. It seems that someone >> >> No, it's not. It doesn't seem like there's an off-the-shelf way to go from >> raster (PDF or TIFF) to vector (Gerber), though, or at least nothing jumps >> out from Google. In principle it would be easy to load a raster and write >> it out as a set of lines in Gerber format. >> >> Actually I have a vague recollection that one of the board houses charged >> extra for "very large Gerber files caused by rasterized plots". >> >> >> > >Plus its pretty hard to extract the drill info from a 'vectorized' raster >plot... > > >Peter Wallace > Hi That is why I didn't say that one should write a program that reads scanned files, I said that one should have a tool that worked from a mouse ( with human attached ). Most tools that would look at scanned data would tend to make a lot of small rectangles instead of correctly grouping the information as a single large rectangle. We are talking about something that a human can easily do but a program has issues because it requires judgement. The fact is that Gerber files are quite simple. They are about as simple as one can get. Although I don't recall the exact syntax, it is thing like goto to x,y; with aperture wheel position 2 draw relative xx,yy; goto to u,v; with aperture wheel postion 3 flash; and so on and so on. I don't think one could describe a PC board any simpler than that. I never said that an automatic tool should be easy to write. I said that one could make a useful tool that would use a mouse to locate and draw( snap would be nice ). One would simply trace the pdf or what ever with the mouse. Dwight

23 years, 4 months

Manuals for HP LaserJet 2 33440A

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Anyone know where I can find both the User Manual and the Service Manual for the LaserJet 2 33440A Printer? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 4 months

CBM Chip Question

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: While rummaging thought my stock of Commodore chips, I came across a bunck of R6765 chips. I looked in some of my notes and I have "floppy controller" written down and elsewhere "D765". Is this a Rockwell-badged version of the NEC controller? Which Commodore drives was this chip used in? Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

23 years, 4 months

List newbie

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

Hi, I just found this list. Very cool. I mostly have early 90s stuff in my collection. A NeXT slab, a bunch of Sun lunch box machines, stuff like that. However, I also have a VAX-11/750 that used to belong to a university in Oregon. It came with the UNIBUS expansion cabinet, a TU80 tape drive, a SA482 rack, three RA81 and two RA82s, bunches of spare boards, loads of field service and other docs and a bunch of the cartridge tapes. When I get around to trying to bring it back up, I will just keep the base cabinet and the TU80 and the RA82s (one operational and one spare). I may keep the SA482 in case I get some interesting equipment that needs a rack. I presume that I can pull the expansion cabinet off of the base cabinet and attach the TU80 in its place. If so, if anyone needs a UNIBUS expansion cabinet ... I dismantled one of the RA81 drive enclosures. If anyone needs a RA81, I have two and a half. I also have a RX02 (two 8" floppy drives) that I want to get rid of. One thing that I am looking for is a drive bay front panel for a RA82. I have one for an RA81. Another thing that I am looking for is a Burroughs B1965. I worked at Burroughs/Unisys during the end of life of the B1900s and think they are cool machines. Later, alan

23 years, 4 months

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