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by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/23/2002 3:49:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: << > Try googling for "IBM Deathstar" (that is NOT a typo). The Deskstars are > notorious for poor reliability. Oh shit. > IIRC, that's what they do when they start to fail. Get your data backed up > ASAP. That thing'll be dead in two weeks tops. It's been doing that for months now. I've had it for a little less than a year. > Got a CD or DVD recorder and a stack of blank, good quality (Verbatim > DatalifePlus SuperAZO) media? Gawd damn Fry's specials. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival Normally IBM drives are pretty good. The issue was about some particular model that was rated for xxxx hours of constant usage or something like that. Check slashdot archives for discussion on it. If it's a SMART drive, you have the program that can query the drive, it might be able to tell you if anything bad is happening. I've still got IBM SCSI drives from 8-10 years ago still going strong with that soft tick-tick-tick recalibrate noise happening every once in a while. The 400 meg ones are so quiet you can't tell when they doing R/W operations. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 4 months

early pc with lcd screen

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Maybe a T5100 (16 MHz 386, plasma display, 1987) or a T5200 (20 MHz 386, 1988) ? http://www.toshiba-europe.com/computers/products/notebooks/t5100/index.shtm http://www.toshiba-europe.com/computers/products/notebooks/t5200/index.shtm >From: vance(a)neurotica.com >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: early pc with lcd screen >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 00:14:17 -0500 (EST) > > >Speaking of old portables, anyone remember the large Toshiba >almost-laptop with the full 101-key keyboard? I can't remember the name, >but I'd love to get one, as I drooled over one for a while. > >Peace... Sridhar _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 4 months

Need drivers for Outright 9-track tape drive

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have an Outright 9-track tape drive with an ISA adapter and manual but, alas, no software. The adapter is branded "Computer Logics NineTrack PCTD III". It has a DC-62 (is that correct?) connector. It's a 16-bit ISA card. Does anyone by any chance have the drivers for this? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 4 months

[Fwd: [ghate@essar.co.id: NetBSD WWW feedback from ghate@essar.co.id]]

by dwoyciesjes＠comcast.net

F.Y.I. - Saw this over at the NetBSD/Vax-port list... Jan Schaumann wrote: > > Hi, > > We just received this message at www@ -- thought it might be of interest > to somebody over here. If not, my apologies. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: NetBSD WWW feedback from ghate(a)essar.co.id > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:40:32 -0800 (PST) > From: ghate(a)essar.co.id (A.M.Ghate) > To: www(a)netbsd.org > > ghate(a)essar.co.id (A.M.Ghate) sent the following > comment about The NetBSD Project's WWW server: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > We have surplus two nos. of following mentioned computers.We want to > sale them off.pls contact us if you are interested in buying it. > The details are as follows. > Micro VAX II computers, DEC make- 2 nos. > Model-630QB-A2 consisting of Micro vaxII CPU with floating point > processor.1Mbyte memory.BA123 enclosure,console terminal port and > BCC08-10 console terminal cable. > > The technical details of the system are as follows. > > The MicroVAX II was based on a single, quad-sized 32-bit processor board > and contained the MicroVAX chip (which included memory management). The > machine featured a floating-point coprocessor chip, 1MB of on-board > memory, Q22-bus interface, Q22-map for DMA transfers, interval timer, > boot and diagnostic facility, console serial line unit and time-of-year > clock. > > MicroVAX II 630QY, 630QZ Owner's Manual (pdf) > at The DFWCUG Historical CPU Preservation Society > > Relative Performance x VAX-11/780 (1 MIP) 0.9 > Technology NMOS > Number of Processors 1 > Maximum Memory Support 16 MB > Memory Type Parity > Mass-storage Capacity > Max. Local 4 Port Disk Controllers 2 > Max. Local Disk Capacity 2.8 GB > VAXcluster I/O Servers (HSCs) N/A > I/O Bus Capacity > Max I/O Throughput 3.3 MB/s > Bus Type 1 Q-bus > Communications > LAN Support Optional > Ethernet Adapters Optional > Expansion > CI VAXcluster System Support N/A > Ethernet VAXcluster System Support Optional > CPU Upgrade Kit N/A > System Software VMS > ULTRIX-32 > VAXELN > Processor Features > Floating Point Accelerator Standard > Floating Point Data Types F, D, G, H > Cache Size N/A > Cache Cycle Time N/A > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- ---Dave Woyciesjes ---ICQ# 905818

23 years, 4 months

Dying VaxStation 4000 VLC - help?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

I have a VLC sitting at home and I have various test kit in the office. If you outline exactly what you would like measured (and observed on a scope) I can probably get around to looking tonight and testing tomorrow. (I've not followed this thread too much so all I know is that you have a flakey VLC and the finger of suspicion is currently pointed firmly at the PSU and associated mainboard circuitry). Antonio

23 years, 4 months

scored OS/2 2.1!

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/25/2002 7:04:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, rschaefe(a)gcfn.org writes: << The thrift store finally marked it down to something reasonable (%50 off of $1.99-- took 'em six or eight weeks to get here from $45.00. Bah!), so I picked up an OS/2 3.5" upgrade. I was pretty excited to get it, I've always wanted to try OS/2, but it won't install. Looks like the media's crapped out, it looks cloudy in places, like something's growing on it. : ( I don't suppose anyone knows if IBM has a replacement program? I'd really like to run it on my P70. Assuming I can find a set of SIMMS for it- - the previous owner must've thought they were made of gold the way he ripped up the sockets getting 'em out. :( >> yes, there's a replacement program..within 90 days of purchase, and it was dated too. If you can find an OS/2 2.1 CD that would be a better bet as you can make the disks. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 4 months

Got a few goodies today at thrifts and the warehouse

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

While going through the warehouse today a came across a 59 page document titled OSI Challenger SYSTEM PROSPECTUS. It sold for $1 and looks like it was printed before May of 1977. It has allot of technical information in it. At a local thrift picked up a Commodore Minuteman MM3S calculator with square root key for 99 cents. Good shape (looks) but not tested yet. At another place got a Monteverdi TV Sports 825 model E825A with one controller for it. They had two controllers there for $2.99 each but one was broken into pieces, so I left it. Also there was no power supply or instructions with it. Also at the warehouse I picked up a TI2500 in the box that I had there and a Laser 50 PC that was billed as a educational computer and had 6 modes you could work in. It's missing the battery cover on the back.

23 years, 4 months

MicroVAX II

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I've since pulled all the boards, installed a M7625-AA (KA655) and M7621 >(MS650) 8MB memory card by themselves, and got a chevron prompt. I also got a memory error and a >message stating normal startup is not possible. 'show memory' showed 0MB of ram installed. I tried >another 8MB board with the same results. I also tried 3 different 16MB boards, but the LED display >showed 'F', and of course, I didn't get a chevron prompt. You know that the over-the-top connector used on the KA630 and the KA65x are different? I don't know exactly what failure you see if you use the KA630 OTP with the KA65x - but you may just have found out! It seems odd that a PSU could cause this problem and I'd be surprised if *all* your memory boards are faulty (I've never found a dead one even after they'd spent quite a while floating round the lab). Antonio

23 years, 4 months

scored OS/2 2.1!

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

The thrift store finally marked it down to something reasonable (%50 off of $1.99-- took 'em six or eight weeks to get here from $45.00. Bah!), so I picked up an OS/2 3.5" upgrade. I was pretty excited to get it, I've always wanted to try OS/2, but it won't install. Looks like the media's crapped out, it looks cloudy in places, like something's growing on it. : ( I don't suppose anyone knows if IBM has a replacement program? I'd really like to run it on my P70. Assuming I can find a set of SIMMS for it- - the previous owner must've thought they were made of gold the way he ripped up the sockets getting 'em out. :( Bob

23 years, 4 months

Got a few goodies today at thrifts and the warehouse

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/25/2002 4:54:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes: << Also at the warehouse I picked up a TI2500 in the box that I had there and a Laser 50 PC that was billed as a educational computer and had 6 modes you could work in. It's missing the battery cover on the back. >> I got one of those with carrying case and everything. Looks like a tandy 100 type computer. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 4 months

Looking for a DEC VT420 maintenance print set.

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Ops, I meant to say that I am looking for a vt420 print set, not vt440 (if > that even exists). > > --tnx > --tom As far as I know, there isn't such a beast as a VT440 (to bad, it would probably have been a very nice terminal). As for finding any kind of a print set, good luck, the VT420's are new enough that DEC didn't seem to release much in the way of doc's. Zane

23 years, 4 months

Tektronix DC100 tapes?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Did any Tektronix equipment use tapes that are compatible with HP DC100 tapes? I found a couple of unused tapes that have a Tektronix label but no part number that I can see. They look pretty much the same as an HP DC100 tape. I suppose I could just try them in an HP 2645A I picked up after I clean up the tape units, but it would be nice to know whether or not they really should work first. Also, anyone use HP 9144 tape drives, or have one they are not using? I found a couple of unused tapes for those units. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 4 months

Zilog System 8000 guts in Oregon

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Going through my storage locker I ran across the card cage with cards and some connecting cables from a Z8000 system. I am interested in selling this. So I am offering it to the list first before it goes to ePay. If anyone is interested please contact me for information or offers at innfosale(a)aol.com About 10 cards in the cardcage with backplane. I can't get to it to identify them at the moment. Zilog 1982 copyright on the backplane. The original looked a lot like the 8000 system 31 in Australia about 8 years ago. This was salvaged from my scrapper partner at the time and has been in storage since. It is now in Astoria, Oregon 97103, USA. I can quote shipping prices. Paxton

23 years, 4 months

8 bit vs other Computers.

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I did a lot of productive work on an Osborne I, with a 52-character wide display, but it was a bit of a PITA. Personally, I like a display that can show 60 characters, as that corresponds to a typewritten line with the margins I use. On an 80-column display, I get too much wasted space on the right. 64-columns is a good width, and is what I use on my HP 200LX palmtop (which can display 80x25, 64x18 and 40x16). OTOH, the 104-character wide mode on the Osborne (with an external monitor, of course) was useful for SuperCalc spreadsheets. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Barr [mailto:stanb@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:25 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 8 bit vs other Computers. Hi, ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) said; > > > > Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner wrote: > > > > > > For a real word processing you need 80x24 upper/lower case display, > > I also disagree with the display size issue. I did a lot of word > processing on my TRS-80 model 1 (with lowercase mod)> It has a 64*16 > display. Me too. And my Tatung Einstein with 80 column display card and running ZCPR3 qualified on all counts. -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb(a)dial.pipex.com The future was never like this!

23 years, 4 months

Zilog System 8000 Model 31 available in Australia

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com> > >On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, ben franchuk wrote: > >> I did not say General purpose computing can't be done, just that it is a >> very small amount of memory for most user programs. It is really hard >> work to have a useful programs written on the small 8 bit machines, and >> fit in 32k or 48k of memory incuding the OS. > >I find it rather odd that such a comment would be made in the face of tens >of thousands of applications software and games that were developed on >dozens of 8-bit computer platforms having anywhere from 4K to 64K of main >RAM where the operating system and application shared that memory space. > >? > ---snip--- Hi The only thing I miss on a 8 bit machine is the lack of space for large data sets. I've never ran out of code space in my 15 year ( when I was doing embedded stuff ). Then I could never understand what happened to all the space that most of today's compilers use. I've always used a combination of assembly and Forth for embedded stuff. I had to work with a few applications written by others that were in C and found it very difficult to stay within RAM limits for even simple applications. When I first saw languages like SmalTalk, looking at the description, I thought that finally someone was doing something right. They talked about the efficiency of reuse and such ( concepts that are natural to Forth ). Then I tried it and found that it was more bloated than the C programs I was dealing with. The other thing that bothers me is that today we have computers that can run several thousands of times faster than an 8080 IMSAI. Still, it takes 5 to 10 minutes to boot that machine. My IMSAI boots faster than I can reach >from the reset button to the keyboard. I'm told that is is because the machine has to figure out what the I/O looks like on each boot ( of course, MS rejected OpenBoot for PCI boards that could have improved the boot time ). I find that applications written for these new and more powerful computers that have been doubling in capabilities every year are becoming garbaged up at a rate that is faster than the computer get better. I doubt there is anyone that works for MS that even knows if 50% of the software that they release is even being usefully run under any condition ( maybe even 80% ). I believe that there complexity will eventually bring them to the point that even hiring the entire graduating class of computer science students will not fix. Just my ramblings Dwight

23 years, 4 months

The PDQ8

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Another guy has already done this - http://surfin.spies.com/~dgc/pdp8x/ There's already a link to this one on one of the pages, plus a link to http://www.jaywalk.co.uk/pdp8/ (which I had not seen before). Antonio

23 years, 4 months

The PDQ8

by pat＠purdueriots.com

No, that's not a typo. I know not everyone reads Slashdot, so I thought I'd share it since no one else has posted it yet: There's a guy working on creating a FPGA verions of a PDP-8. Does anyone know anything about this? Is Andrew Grillet on this list? There's more information at his web site: http://www.grillet.co.uk/pdq8/index.html Pat -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 4 months

Weekend Finds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Got lucky this weekend at the market and picked up the following: 1. Sun ext. cd-rom drive model X559A-ST had empty caddy in it. 2. Panasonic Portable Data Terminal model KX-D4911 not tested yet. 3. Some Game gear cartridges. 4. hp 82143A printer in the box all the paperwork and manual plus 3 rolls of paper for it. 5. Printer adapter called a G-Wiz by Supra Corp. 6. A box full of books was given to me for the collection. 7. COMPUTERS: The Inside Story a 1000 piece puzzle set. 8. OT: A Viewsonic 14" flat panel for $17.50 at auction (works great). 9. OT: A Dell Latitude XPi laptop and ethernet docking station both for $10 at local thrift. Laptop works but battery is dead. 10. Another T1000 in a carrying case with adapter but dead battery. That was part of the haul for the weekend.

23 years, 4 months

8 bit vs other Computers.

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

IIRC, not many 8 bit CP/M computers were marketed as "game machines." Certainly not all the Osbornes, Kaypros, Morrows, Televideos, etc., etc. -----Original Message----- From: ben franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:40 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 8 bit vs other Computers. <snip> But 99% of all 8 bit machines in the 1980's were marketed as game machines. <snip>

23 years, 4 months

On Behalf Of Lawrence Walker

by loedman1＠juno.com

Careful now, a quick visit to the Canadian Government website shows the following, (1) 7.6% unemployment (2) 3.2% inflation (3) Average family income of 38,000 after taxes (4) Exchange rate of 1.56690 to one, in our favor (5) Average retirement pension that is less than 10% of what mine will be, and of course that wonderful socialized health care. Doesn't seem that you are in any position to criticize George W or our Government until yours gets its act together. Rich loedman1(a)juno.com Subject: OT Bush and Canada > As a Canadian, I must explain to our US neighbors that the press misunderstood the Canadian official at the Prague meetings who was reported as saying "What a moron" in reference to George Dubya. > In some circles up here there is a slang phrase of approval meaning "more on top of it", hipper. I'm sure that's what he meant. And of course Dick Cheyny is also a veritable moron, (in Can. slang terms , of course). > Lawrence lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

23 years, 4 months

Keyboard key labels

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

> > Actually, I've been planning on building my own. I am currently I spent 15 minutes digging in a few boxes of surplus keyboards until I had 3 I liked, paid the man a buck each, and toddled on home. Typing this on a very nice feeling Micron keyboard from the W95 era. Not quite as nice as my Apple Extended II keyboard, but feels good, works fine.

23 years, 4 months

Newbie enquiries

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

I did a little more looking on the web and I must say either my memory is failing me, or I have looked at so many pictures of pdp-11s that I have just confused myself. I said I remembered the programers console was a little more flash looking that the 11/04 programmers consoles I had seen to date; and well I must say the picture of the 11/60 panel I found in a PDF titled "PDP11_Handbook1979", realy reminds me of the one I used on the small PDP-11 I am trying to identify. Did this panel sytle get used on any other PDP-11 models? Its just that I remember it being an 11/0(something), but I find the 11/60 console's octal pad framing in white and the location of the 7 segment display very familliar. David

23 years, 4 months

MicroVAX II

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I had time to troubleshoot further, and somehow managed to get it to at least make it to '6', but >couldn't get it to progress past '9' the next time (when I had a console cable connected). I'm 9 is "Identifying console terminal". It's supposed to give up after six seconds and skip to step 7. If it identifies ther terminal, it will go to step 8 instead and query the language. 6 is the RAM test. You said uVAX II but what cards are in there? If it finds a video card I think the sequence might change a bit. >Also, what is the story on the FCO on the power harnesses for the backplane? The two harnesses in >my BA123 are made of a gray ribbon cable pressed into orange connectors. I *thought* it was the early BA23 power harness that had the issue, not the BA123. A bit of googling through newsgroups (comp.sys.dec or comp.os.vms) should nail that down somewhat. Antonio

23 years, 4 months

Adopt an old NASA software program

by mranalog＠attbi.com

On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 Michael Nadeau wrote: > Open Channel Software is making old NASA applications available for > download. There is a fee involved for what's called the NASA Classics > collection, and the goal is to encourage commercial development of the > applications. The list is at http://www.openchannelsoftware.com/NASA_1.html. > I have no connection with OCS or NASA, but just happened to come across a > press release about the offer. I had not seen Michael's previous posting on this subject, I just stumbled across this web page this morning. It appears they want volunteers to help develop this software. http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/cosmic/ -----------< quote >---------------- Open Channel Publishes the NASA COSMIC Collection Open Channel Software has entered into an agreement with the National Technology Transfer Center (NTTC) to publish the COSMIC software collection. This collection represents software created by NASA in a wide range of disciplines including engineering, chemistry, aerodynamics, and other areas. Adopt an application! Many of the COSMIC programs are available for "adoption". When you adopt an orphaned application at Open Channel, you agree to moderate user contributions to the application. You also take over the maintenance of the site for the application through our Content Management system. Your name will appear on the application home page. ------< end quote >---------------- The Moderator Responsibilities http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/contrib/mod_resp.php include: -----------< quote >---------------- * Helps Open Channel decide on means of distribution (free open source, licensed open source, etc.) * Makes current version of software and documentation available for download from site, and/or * Helps Open Channel define and price products offered for order on the site ------< end quote >---------------- So by adopting one of these programs you may be able to influence how this software is distributed. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

23 years, 4 months

Attempting to find EISA .CFG for an SMC Elite32

by jplist＠kiwigeek.com

Greetings; I'm trying to track down an EISA .CFG file for an SMC Elite32 8033W dual-port Ethernet card. Google is surprisingly sparse. The card ID is: SMC0110 (And, therefore, the CFG is !SMC0110.CFG) Many thanks, JP

23 years, 4 months

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