>Not quite clever enough -- the last free version is still available on the
>Wayback Machine. Start here:
>
>http://web.archive.org/web/20010802114248/www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/comph…
Well the entries from 2001 onwards ask for money for the 1977-2001 period.
The last entry that lists anything at all for 1977+ only goes as far as
1980. If there a URL that lists more of that period in the wayback machine,
I've somehow managed to miss it.
Antonio
Hi Erik,
Do you still have the C8080-8 CPU?
If you are interrested in selling it or trade it for a C8080A + money please let me know.
I have several C8080A's but no C8080-8.
Best regards
Mats Bystr?m (CPU collector)
riviera(a)telia.com
Mike, If you need a working vr201 for your rainbow let me know. I have quite
a few of them and will sell you one for $25. Add $5 if you also need the
cable. (you pay shipping from florida or pick it up). I have working Decmate
III's as well and I think I may have the hard drives that go in the rainbow
along with the dual floppy unit. I also have some original rainbow software.
You can email me at trestivo(a)tarinc.com.
Regards,
thom
On Nov 25, 21:28, Curt Vendel wrote:
> Anybody who is into this system should check it this auction I found on
> Ebay:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2074514971
>
> The guy also has some nice Commodore stuff, a Sony (MSX?) System and some
> other cool stuff too.
The coolest item there, for me, is his Jupiter Ace. For those who don't
know, it's a FORTH machine, and fairly rare. It's based on a Sinclair
ZX81, and named after the Pilot ACE computer built in 1950 at the National
Physical Laboratory.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hans wrote:
> OK, ok, ok already. This link is to a raw text file taken from my web
> site when it was active. There are quite a few versions of this on the
> web and none of them cite the origin !!
I hadn't realized that you were the source of the list. The person with the
link I cited was wrong in not crediting you.
> I have taken the time to put up most of my original site at
> www.aconit.org/hbp/CCC
Thank you, thank you, thank you. For creating the list in the first place
and sharing it freely with the rest of us.
> None of the CGI scripts work (yet) so you cannot search but the
> formatted lists are working. Some of the links may also not work yet.
>
> I will try and put up the CGI scripts soon and do some updates also.
>
> Let me know if you use the list, feedback always helps motivate updates
;-)
I use the list and find it very helpful. As I can, I'll be sending a few
updates and corrections for the machines I'm familiar with.
Thanks,
DaveB
Volunteer, Computer History Museum
Ever notice that on modern keyboards, the letters on the keys are not
in the middle of the key? They are off to the left. This is something
that has always kind of annoyed me. I like the way the older keyboards
were made, like on the VT100 terminal. Not only did they have real
switches and a great feel, but the letters were right there in the
middle of the key, where they should be. Not only that, but the labels
on these old keyboards actually went all the way through the key - it
was made of two different colors of plastic. This way, the letters
wouldn't wear off. It's obvious why they changed the key switches - to
make the keyboard cheaper. That and some people are weird and don't
like the wonderful sounds that the older keyboards made. (I hate quiet
keyboards...) But why were the letters moved? Was this cheaper or
easier? Or did Apple suddenly do it and then everyone else followed
suit? <grin> Does anyone know what computer started using this style
of keycap labeling?
Just curious.
Ian Primus
ian_primus(a)yahoo.com
Well, my Pentium II motherboard bit the dust the other day (Thank You
American Electric Power!), so I went to the local computer parts store
in search of a new one. Being somewhat of a vacuum tube fan, I settled
on the AOpen AX4B-533TUBE board. Yes, this one has a vacuum tube. It
uses a dual triode (Sovtek 6922) as the audio amplifier. The board also
sports a 1.5Ghz Pentium 4 and DDR SDRAM, along with the usual bells and
whistles such as LAN, Serial, Parallel, etc.
The audio out of the board sounds great, as long as you make sure you
have the right impedance speakers/headphones plugged in. My normal 8
ohm headphones were badly overdriven, but plugging the computer into my
guitar amp (sounds weird, don't it?) delivered that nice, wide vacuum
tube tonality that normal sound cards just can't deliver.
I really gotta hand it to the guys at AOpen for delivering a wonderful
mix of new and old tech.
I do, however, really need to install a window in my case so I can bask
in the warm glow of the vacuum tube.
--
Christopher L McNabb
Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net
Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.1356N 80.4272N
GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD
Nice. Virtually identical to the Sharp PC 3100, but the Sharp had
proprietory 10pin RS232, 20pin Parallel, and fdd sockets. It ran an
80C88 at 10mhz as opposed to the Poquets' 16mhz. Only type 1 PCcard
slots as opposed to the Poquets' type I/II. Uses 4 x1.5v cells. Based on
the specs I think the Poquet wins out. But a later machine.
These guys have the PC 3000. About the same price.
http://www.notebooksplus.com/pc3000.htm
This guy has done some amazing things with the 2MB PC3100.
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Strand/3387/pc3story.html
Lawrence
> Back in the mid-90's I kept a Poqet PC in my bag or desk to use as an
> ad hoc console terminal for data center gear. Wasn't as convenient as
> the then current HP palmtops, but a heck of a lot cheaper and an
> easier keyboard if the HPs were a tad small for you. MS-DOS in ROM
> supported Kermit nicely for ANSI terminal emulation.
>
> California Digital (not the newbies that bought VA Linux' hardware
> operation) still has them, though perhaps a bit (ahem) overpriced:
>
> http://www.cadigital.com/poqetpc.htm
>
> --S.
>
lgwalker(a)mts.net
bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com
lgwalker(a)mts.net
bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> Thanks, turning on Javascript did it! But it is still not what I am
> looking for. I've seen lists in the past that have only the computer and
> the (sometimes approximate) date they were introduced. So far, I've
> still been unable to find such a list.
Here's the link you may be remembering:
http://members.fortunecity.com/pcmuseum/complist.html
I like this one because it gives references to where much of the information
came from.
Thanks,
DaveB
Volunteer, Computer History Museum
I've got a few PPT readers (SCM & Burroughs, parallel I/F) if anybody wants
to
play around with one; also some punches and parts. Contact me off-list if
interested.
mike
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I've muddied the waters a bit... The link I included was for the
later Fujitsu Poqet PC Plus. Fujitsi bought out the original
company before or while the second generation product was being
offered. CA Digital is giving specs for the Plus model, which is
what I believe they're selling. Gee, I wonder if this is covered
on one of the timelines people have been discussing...
The original Poqet PC has _no_ backlight, uses 2 std AA cells, and
MS-DOS 3.3 in ROM. Not sure how much memory is in there, ISTR at
least 512K and maybe more. There's a small ramdisk on D: for
AUTOEXEC/CONFIG.SYS, and the DOS ROM is C:. The two PCMCIA slots
at A:/B: are nice, especially with the 2MB SRAM cards - however I
appear to have forgotten to refresh the lithium backup batteries
in mine :^}
Fred's right, the original Poqet brings pretty much the whole XT
bus out to a connector on the back. I like the idea of hooking
this up to a backplane... B^P
Somewhere I have the docs from when I bought the thing, but it
may be years before they surface again.
--S.
While at the Goodwill I picked up a black case and inside was a Bridge
Challenger III with power supply and manual. It's missing thirteen dealer
cards. These cards are read my a built in scanner. This unit was built by
Fidelity Electronics LTD.
Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me.
I have an early 1980s Hewlett Packard HP150A which I am trying to find a
home for in a museum. The system is working but I can't find the MSDOS
(or application) disks for it which were on 3.5" floppy.
Does anyone know a source of such things? I think I may have a museum
interested but I would rather donate it as a fully working system.
Thanks in anticipation
Kim Harris
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No, it is a Hornet chip, but it has an 80C186 in it. Running MSD.exe will
show this information. See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/block.pdf for
a block diagram of the chip, with the 80C186 clearly indicated. There are
also a lot of references to the '186 in programming information for the
LX's.
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Pemberton [mailto:philpem@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:02 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal?
<snip>
I though the 200LX used an 8086, more specifically an Intel HORNET embedded
CPU?
<snip>
The winning (only) bidder was vcf! so I guess that means it went to a good
home and now I won't regret bidding on it.
> >>From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net>
> >>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> >>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> >>Subject: HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay
> >>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:53:02 -0500
> >>
> >>Sorry if this screws up someone's snipe plans... but it was
> >>offered a couple of weeks ago and closed with no bids. It
> >>currently (10:50 am EST) has no bids with 11 hours to go. I
> >>can't imagine that nobody one the list would want this:
> >>
> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1789314629
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I have a optical paper tape reader called a "TPR-1" connected to my Altair.
We bought it as a kit.
It has a pretty blue box that matches the computer.
It uses a standardized part that has phototransistors spaced correctly to
read paper tape.
The sprocket hole also has a phototransistor that is used as the clock.
This is how we always loaded Altair Basic.
I saw the manual a few days ago.
I'll see if I can scan it.
-Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Andy Holt
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:34 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Optical paper tape readers
Another problem with building a paper tape reader is to ensure that the
light source is constant - in particular that it does not vary with mains
frequency!
(Memories of getting a PTR modified to work on my homebrew 6800 system 25
years ago)
Andy
>The leading A2 certainly means it's an Apple product relating to the
>Apple II family, but the M doesn't make it a mouse. Lots of things
>were A2Mxxxx, and only a tiny number were mice.
Sorry, brain fart on my part. You are of course correct. A good number of
items have M in the model number that are not mice (for instance, the
entire(?) Mac line).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Tony,
> I do wonder just hwat is taught in universities these days :-(.
Aside from how to surf the net? Visual Basic and Java are hot topix
nowadays. :)
> Pity. IMHO, one of the main reason that soft-microcoded CPUs are
> interesting is that you can modify yhr micorocode yourself.
Dude.. I have a hard time explaining to friends what microcode *is*.
They do not get the idea of single-stepping a CPU through its microcode..
--f
Hi Godfrey:
You may be interested in the greenkeys teletype email list -- lots of good
folks with questions, answers, etc. Mostly 5-level baudot machines, but
some ascii stuff too. It averages a few emails a day (not overwhelming).
You need to go to http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
to sign up. You can poke through the archives at:
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
gil
>From: "Godfrey Manning" <cgmm(a)thersgb.net>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:00 PM
>Subject: Flexowriter
>
>
>> Does anybody in the UK (apart from me) possess a Mk. 1 Friden Flexowriter?
>> Can I be of any help (info/spares) to such a person?
>> Godfrey.
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Speaking of HP 1000 diags, I recently acquired a set of HP 1000 diags on six
DC100A tapes, along with a few inches of docs in a couple of binders. I
would list the part numbers on the tapes but I don't have them in front of
me right now. Each tape contains the configurator file and then several
module level diagnostic files. Unfortunately the tapes are 20+ years old
and the oxide layer has lifted off in a few spots and I haven't been able to
read them successfully. Does anyone the full set of HP 1000 diagnostic
files that they would be willing to share?
I do have one diag file on paper tape. That was why I was interested in
acquiring a reader.
>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Re: HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay
>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:49:13 -0600
>
>The 2748B paper tape reader is a very nice unit. I'm not bidding, I have
>two
>already. The connector on the reader is "v.35-ish", but not v.35. The other
>end of the cable is "proprietary" and goes to the HP 8-bit duplex register
>board. If someone has an HP box, they should definitely get this for
>loading
>diags.
>
>Jay West
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net>
>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:53 AM
>Subject: HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay
>
>
> > Sorry if this screws up someone's snipe plans... but it was
> > offered a couple of weeks ago and closed with no bids. It
> > currently (10:50 am EST) has no bids with 11 hours to go. I
> > can't imagine that nobody one the list would want this:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1789314629
> >
>
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On Nov 26, 11:02, Glen Slick wrote:
> I was hoping there might be some sort of preassembled optical sensor
array
> available with the right spacing for paper tape holes, but maybe that is
> hoping for too much. If you build one with discrete sensors, is it easy
to
> find ones that are narrow enough to stack side to side with the correct
> spacing?
One way would be to get some Perspex (Lexan/Plexiglass) rod and make some
short light pipes, and fan them out to get the spread you need. Or make
some kind of 9-partition screen out of thin sheet metal, narrow at the top
and wider at the bottom where the detectors are. The detectors don't have
to be right up against the tape, so long as you don't get light from one
bit affecting the detector for adjacent ones.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Back in the mid-90's I kept a Poqet PC in my bag or desk to use as
an ad hoc console terminal for data center gear. Wasn't as convenient
as the then current HP palmtops, but a heck of a lot cheaper and an
easier keyboard if the HPs were a tad small for you. MS-DOS in ROM
supported Kermit nicely for ANSI terminal emulation.
California Digital (not the newbies that bought VA Linux' hardware
operation) still has them, though perhaps a bit (ahem) overpriced:
http://www.cadigital.com/poqetpc.htm
--S.
Hi
I have an old Intel tape reader ( I think it was made
by REMEX ). It was a parallel output. I took me about
20 minutes to make an adapter to plug into the bi-directional
printer port on my laptop( it took me longer to buy the
cable since I went to Fry's to buy it). I took me another
hour or so to look up the info on the parallel port to write a
simple reader to take input from the printer port to
a file.
I started without schematics or docs on the reader,
just knowing that it was parallel. One should be able to
find the output strobe and data lines with a logic probe
( although I used an oscilloscope ).
Dwight
>From: "Loboyko Steve" <sloboyko(a)yahoo.com>
>They once made these but I haven't seen any surplus in
>years.
>
>Until I picked up some paper tape readers on eBay
>(cheap - no one wants readers, they want punches) - I
>was considering making one out of tiny
>phototransistors/IR emitters using wooden strips
>masked with Mylar tape punched with the RUBOUT
>character. I definitely think this is doable. But
>seriously, I'd look at eBay, because readers with
>nonstandard interface go for cheap. I recently missed
>a complete Remex reader (with reels, etc) for $20
>(nobody bid on it), and I DO know how to interface
>these.
>
>
>
>--- "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> wrote:
>> Hi Glen
>> There isn't much application for things with this
>> spacing.
>> Remember, you will most likely be connecting this to
>> a
>> uP. You really don't need to space then in a
>> straight
>> line. You can stager them and reassemble the entire
>> byte width afterwards.
>> Another though would be to use one of the linear
>> arrays,
>> used in scanners. Most of these are about as wide as
>> a paper tape. You could use a collimated source and
>> drag the tape directly over the array. You'd need
>> to do a little image processing but it shouldn't be
>> too
>> difficult.
>> There are some mechanical options that might work
>> as well.
>> Like I said, use some imagination.
>> Dwight
>>
>>
>> >From: "Glen Slick" <glenslick(a)hotmail.com>
>> >
>> >I was hoping there might be some sort of
>> preassembled optical sensor array
>> >available with the right spacing for paper tape
>> holes, but maybe that is
>> >hoping for too much. If you build one with
>> discrete sensors, is it easy to
>> >find ones that are narrow enough to stack side to
>> side with the correct
>> >spacing?
>> >
>> >
>> >>Hi
>> >> Ahh, such concepts as make one come to mind.
>> You could
>> >>scrap a number of mice for the optical sensors (
>> two for
>> >>each axis, 4 total per mouse ) or you could buy
>> photo
>> >>transistors from Jameco. In a pinch, the clear
>> lensed
>> >>LED's make reasonable detectors.
>> >> Use a little imagination.
>> >>Dwight
>> >
>> >
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