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by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

IIRC, Testors plastic solvent cement (available at most hobby shops) is mainly MEK. Testors makes several "flavors" of solvent cement, so just check the label to make sure. -----Original Message----- From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:30 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Looking 4... <snip> MEK = Methyl Ethyl Ketone (C4H8O)? Is it actually obtainable for most folks? I thought it was regulated since it is so toxic and dangerous? Personally, I think I'd take safety precautions while working with the stuff... -Toth

23 years, 3 months

http://hardware.localhost.nl

by sjaak＠freebsd.nl

Hi!, The site, http://hardware.localhost.nl contains pictures of computing and networking hardware. We've also got a small collection of all kinds of old hardware. As most of you are probally the owners of old, exotic and cool hardware, a contribution would be greatly appreciated by sending in your pictures! Anyway, drop by and have a look. ;) Greetings, -- +-------- - -- - | Sjaak Jobses <sjaak(a)freebsd.nl> | | Free hot hardware pr0n - http://hardware.localhost.nl +---- - --- -- -- - PS. I'm also looking for people willing to set up a mirror in the US.

23 years, 3 months

Macintosh LC III needs home

by vcf＠siconic.com

Reply-to: <Shinobi3673(a)aol.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 05:23:47 EST From: Shinobi3673(a)aol.com To: donate(a)vintage.org Subject: Macintosh LC III I have a Macintosh LC III & image writer II printer would this be of interest to your organisation? if not can you make a suggestion besides throw away? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

Subject: Re: substitute for TI TIL306/307 Display?

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: substitute for TI TIL306/307 Display? >Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 17:00:23 > > The 306/307s also have built in BCD decoders. I've been trying to find >a data sheet on the 311 so that I can see what the difference is between it >and the 306/307. > > >http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/til306.pdf >http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/til308.pdf >http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/til311.pdf Hi, TIL306/7 is a decadecounter, latch, dekoder+driver and led-bar display, and has a puls-input to the counter. TIl308/9 is a latch, dekoder+driver and led-bar display, and has BCD-inputs for data to be displayed. 306 and 308 are identical in its display-dimensions and aparance, the function differs however. To use a TIL 308 as a replacement for a 306 you will need to add externalley somewhere a 7490 decade-counter between the original circuit and the TIL308. I have a few TIL308 available, if this rework is feasable to you. TIl310/1 is a latch, dekoder+driver and led-pixel display, and has BCD-inputs for data to be displayed. Thisone also needs an external 7490 counter in your usage, on top of that, the display has a different appearance. Someone else could have those for you. So, choose the alternative that best suits you, I would continue to search for the original TIL306, or change the whole display to something else althogether. HTH Frank Arnold

23 years, 3 months

KayPro Daisywheel Printer Ribbon - Juki 6100

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 5, 21:19, Mike Davis wrote: > Anyone know what type of ribbon the KayPro Letter Quality printer > (daisywheel; Juki 6100) uses? I have one without a ribbon or even a > used ribbon cassette for comparrison. > > Is there a ribbon that is currently made that works with this > printer? If so, where can it be obtained? I don't know if you can still get them -- I expect you can -- but I can tell you that the ribbon for a Juki 6100 is an IBM 82 compatible multistrike or single-strike ribbon cassette, same as is used on an IBM Selectric II. I used to use multistrike carbon, but you could also get multistrike fabric and single-strike carbon. Fabric, however, tends to clog the character petals after a while. I no longer have a 6100 nor the user manual but I do have the technical service manual. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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by ludedude25＠juno.com

Was this your post? http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2002-July/003413.html For Sale or Trade Commodore C-64 computers, 1571 drives, and 1701 (I think) color monitors. If so how much did you want for these items above? or what were you looking for , for a trade?

23 years, 3 months

Compaq SLT/286

by dwright6＠twcny.rr.com

Mr.Hall I don't anything in tha way of documentation.......but i have navigated tha system quite a bit..........i have installed ms-dos 6.22 and games made for dos and early windows versions..........ask me question.....mebbe i've been down that road already? ;)

23 years, 3 months

need some help....

by archivesoftware＠celebritydirect.net

Hello ~ I was a long-time member of this list, and am a long time collector of classic computers. I've been away from most internet forums and collecting computers in general for several years, but am finally getting back into it. Want to say hello to those that I used to gather so much information from... and hello to the many new acquaintances I look forward to visiting with. Today I was in a "flea market" browsing a pretty good collection of classic game consoles and coimputers, and discovered something I had never seen before. It was a cream-colored unit, with an integrated keyboard and monitor. Size could be considered small.... probably half the size of a TRS-80 model 4... or smaller. No disk drives were present. I believe it was called a Scoutset ??? I also think it was made by Temat and had a model # of HE 415-B . I could be wrong on all of that information, however... but it was something similar. I have a sneaking suspicion this is some type of early word processor, but am unsure. Has anyone seen this before, or have any information on it? Would it be worth picking up? Thank you! Sincerely, CORD G. COSLOR ----- | Celebrity Direct Entertainment | PO Box 494314 * Port Charlotte, FL 33949 | (941) 625-1649 | www.CelebrityDirect.net * CDE(a)CelebrityDirect.net get paid to read e-mail! click here => http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/2329372

23 years, 3 months

Need Apple Super Serial Card manual online(?)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've Googled a bit but can't seem to find it. Maybe it's out there, maybe not. Maybe you know where? I'm trying to find an online copy of the Apple Super Serial Card manual. I have a physical copy but it's lost in some box somewhere that I haven't turned up yet :( If you know where a copy might be online, could you please let me know? Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

NEXTSTEP 3.3 availability?

by sunderwo＠knox.edu

I have been working on getting a NeXT slab that came into my possession into working order since last summer, but have been unable to find a copy of NEXTSTEP to get installed on the system other than the copies Black Hole sells. Black Hole isn't an option for me - I don't think I'll have a spare US$300 laying around for at least a few more years. So does anyone know of a place where I could find a copy of the operating system? Original CD's would be nice, but I would be happy with ISO's, too. Thanks -Bastian --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

23 years, 3 months

New to list

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

Hi new to list Murray--

23 years, 3 months

Acetone container swelling; safe to keep? (was: Looking 4...)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/5/2003 9:42:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, rdd(a)rddavis.org writes: << Speaking of Acetone, I noticed that an old metal container of it that I have keeps swelling up and creasing the metal a bit after it's reclosed, and vapors hiss out of it when it's opened. The container is slightly rusty, and probably only about six or seven years old. Is this anything to be concerned about? -- Copyright (C) 2002 R. D. Davis >> uh, you think? Since it's rusting, you've got leaks on the way I'm sure. It's cheap enough to replace instead of replacing whatever it damages will would cost more. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 3 months

Collectors in Hong Kong?

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've been contacted by someone at CNN International and they want to do a story on someone that collects old computers in Hong Kong. Does anyone have any computer collecting contacts there by any chance? VCF Hong Kong has a nice ring to it ;) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

Xerox 820 II available in Ottawa

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a nice Xerox 820 II system available in Ottawa, Canada. Please reply to original sender. Reply-to: <buch(a)sympatico.ca> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:24:40 -0800 From: Friedrich Buch <buch(a)sympatico.ca> Subject: Vintage Computer Hi! I have a still-functioning Xerox 820 II with a double, external 5.25" disk drive. I bought it in 1982, retired it a long time ago, but it is still in good condition. I also have a Xerox 620 daisywheel printer to go with it. Paid approx. $15,000 at the time. I just cannot get myself to throw it away. I would be glad to get it a new home. It still has CPM as operating software. If interested, contact: Friedrich Buch buch(a)sympatico.ca or friedrich.buch(a)pc.gc.ca Tel: (613) 234-5885 (Ottawa, Canada) Claim everything, concede nothing; and, if defeated, allege fraud. Machiavelli, The Prince -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

Amstrad PPC640

by noahfox＠mac.com

To whom it may concern, I am interested in buying or renting the Amstrad PPC640 for a movie called ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND Staring Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet. The movie tells the story of a couple who have elected to rid themselves of their memories of on another by a machine. Noah Fox

23 years, 3 months

Looking for small NS32000 system

by jmkatcher＠yahoo.com

I've been looking for a Symmetric 375, but those seem to be rare as hen's teeth. Does anyone have something like a Whitechapel MG1 or a Tektronix 6130/4132 looking for a new home? Jeffrey Katcher jmkatcher(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

Re.: Computers stored in barn; questions answered

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

R. D. Davis wrote: Are these stored in an area where the temperature doesn't get too cold, e.g., where there are a lot of 4-legged space heaters :-), or in a part of the barn where temperatures vary more? How do you prevent damage to the systems from rodents, dampness, birds and spiders, etc.? Hopefully these systems aren't stored near any cedar shavings used for stall bedding, as the fumes from the plicatic (sp?) acid in the cedar can damage any copper used in circuit boards, etc. Does anyone know if the abietic acid in pine shavings/dust causes similar problems? R. D. - I don't use cedar or pine shavings, just plain wheat straw. The temperature varies across the year. The computers are in wooden boxes, not cedar or pine, and the inside is covered with a black plastic that rodents don't chew on. They have been in the barn since the summer of 1987. I think they're all intact. Have to see this summer. Murray--

23 years, 3 months

Acetone container swelling; safe to keep?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 5, 15:45, quapla(a)xs4all.nl wrote: > Use a plastic or a glass bottle. If there is a sparc next time you open it > it may fry your eyebrows and/or hair!. NOT plastic. Acetone, MEK, toluene, and many other organic solvents are sometimes supplied in 1-litre pastic containers but should not be kept in plastic for long-term storage. Even polythene bottles will be damaged in the long term -- they go brittle as the plasticisers are leached out. Such things are normally kept in glass bottles for small quantities, say up to 500ml, or metal tins for a litre or more. >On Jan 5, 10:08, R. D. Davis wrote: > > Speaking of Acetone, I noticed that an old metal container of it that > > I have keeps swelling up and creasing the metal a bit after it's > > reclosed, and vapors hiss out of it when it's opened. The container > > is slightly rusty, and probably only about six or seven years old. Is > > this anything to be concerned about? Is it kept somewhere warm? It should be kept cool (no more than 68deg F). If it's reasonably pure acetone, I can't think of any reaction it should have with steel or tin, so I guess what you're noticing is evaporation causing a slight pressure buildup in the can. Unless it's contaminated -- it doesn't co-exist well with some other solvents (such as chloroform) and moderately strong oxidising agents, or some catalysts (including some forms of carbon). If it's rusting, then you should probably replace the can before it becomes weak enough to leak. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

substitute for TI TIL306/307 Display?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 01:18 AM 1/4/03 -0600, you wrote: > >I have the datasheet for the 311 in pdf format if you'd like me to email >it to you. The 311 has a built-in BCD decoder, but not a counter, like the >306/307. I need the counter function but I'd like a copy of the PDF anyway. > >> > I'll make a note to check a couple of my local surplus dealers over >> > the next few weeks. If I find any TIL306 displays, I'll pick them up. >> > Should I also hunt for any 307s? >> >> 306's or 307s will work equally well. The one difference between them is >> that one has the decimal point to the left of the digit and the other >> has the dp on the right. My unit doesn't use the decimal points so >> either display will work fine. > >Ok, thats what I wanted to be sure of. Often devices didn't use the >decimal points, but I didn't want to assume that was the case. > >> > If all else fails, would it be possible to salvage your displays? I've >> > carefully ground back ceramic and plastic on other dip components to >> > attach replacement leads in the past, but it isn't a fun task... >> >> It's possible but all the leads on them are weak and I'd probably have >> to eventually replace ALL the leads. > >Been there, done that. I have a pile of early 74244s and other 7400 series >logic chips that have nearly nothing left of their leads due to the foam >that were stored in for roughly 15-20 years. Same here. I squirreled away a lot of parts over the years but found that many of them were damaged due to the foam. Fortunately I've get some pretty good scrap sources and I've been finding lots of military grade cards with socketed ICs in the last couple of years so I've been picking them up and pulling the ICs and storing them in parts cabinets. I've amassed a huge stock in just the last year. I was also lucky last year and picked up a good number of parts cabinets that have all the drawers made out of anti-static material. I had been keeping the parts in anti-static foam for AS protestion but now I don't have to. .Thankfully, the TIL311s and >most of the other chips that came in the same batch of parts didn't have >the same problem, though their leads had to be cleaned. I have a fair number of 308 and 311 displays that I've pulled from cards and the local surplus place has plenty of them but the 306/307s seem to be scarce. Joe > >-Toth >

23 years, 3 months

New finds

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

>3) Tektronix 7854 Waveform Calculator .. looks to be a part of something > else, what I have is just a pad with a bunch of buttons and a cable > with a DB-25M on the end. I'm also willing to sell this. > $ free Sounds like you got the keyboard that goes with a Tek 7854 scope. With the keyboard you can use the scope to do some calculations based on the measurements that it's reading. I think the keyboards are a bit scarce. Probably worth a few bucks to someone that needs one or on E-bay. Joe

23 years, 3 months

A bit more about me...

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

Hi all, Sorry about the short intro. A bit more: I' a computer teacher; been in the business since 1970 when i learned COBOL programming in Toronto. I earned a BA and BEd and taught ESL in Africa and Asia. My first computer was CompuPro and the Intercept Jr. 6100. Sorry to say they're no longer active as they're in storage in the barn. I raise horses. The computer I still use from vintage era is the Coleco ADAM. Us Adamites keep are favorite machine running despite its early orphan status. I now have an 800 Mhz. Celeron machine. I wrote a book called "A Historical Research Guide to the Microcomputer" which covers the 4/8 bit era as a supplementary paper for my PhD. I try to follow what's happening out there but I'm afraid I have limited time. Too busy!!! A great excuse... Murray--

23 years, 3 months

Eagle Computer needs new home

by vcf＠siconic.com

Reply-to: <bobk1(a)cox.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 22:34:35 -0700 From: bobk1 <bobk1(a)cox.net> Subject: Eagle Computer I have an original Eagle Computer with this huge external ( as in big goofy looking box ) 10 megabyte winchester hard drive, 5 1/4 " floppy and documentation. It stills fires up under MS DOS and I believe it has an original version of Lotus 123 on it and maybe word perfect. It's been so long I dont even know whats there. Who knows it may even have some vintage porn on it.. Any interest? What is it worth? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

Config info on HP1000 memory?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Memory locations 000000 and 000001 are the A and B registers, so if they work ok that might not say anything about the state of main memory. I don't believe memory location 000002 is mapped to anything special though. >From: James Willing <jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com> > >Memory locations 0-2 seem to be OK, but anything above that Bit 3 is >stuck on. Tried multiple memory boards - same results. Thinking I >should find/make a new ribbon cable to try. Or could the memory >controller be funky? _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

23 years, 3 months

New Garage Sale item... sorta kinda...

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

kinda sorta... <G> Anyone need/have a use for Honeywell M4260 disk cartridges? Look to be about 8 inches in diameter, enclosed square case. Looks like a 'slide in' type drive. With dust covers/cases. Appear to be in good condition, but I have nothing that will use them. Have six of them. $2.50/ea + shipping -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

23 years, 3 months

OS/2 manuals

by cb＠mythtech.net

Is there any interest or value in OS/2 manuals? I have a few OS/2 boxes, and I am pretty sure the software is MIA (never had it, I pulled the stuff from a dumpster long ago). I have decided I don't want to continue to take up the shelf space, so I am trying to find out if there is any interest in these kinds of things or should I just send them back to the dumpster. I don't want to go thru the effort of pulling the stuff out and listing it if there is no interest (the last few items I've offered no one wanted, guess I really DO just have junk). I don't currently know what manuals, or to what versions of OS/2 they go (that is the step I am trying to avoid if there is no interest... I just don't feel like having yet another pile of crap under my desk until I get takers or get sick of waiting). And of course, I would LOVE to find out that OS/2 manuals are worth money... saving for a house when on an already strained budget is a bitch! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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