Some people might recognize the name ETCO - an old time surplus house
that, like so many, died in the 1980/90s.
Anyway, I found a few of their old catalogs, mostly from around 1982. I
used to get these things, and had a good time paging thru these relics,
looking up some of the crap I used to buy. Wow, if I could only go back
and order more of those tubes...
I am done with them...anyone want one for a retro-surplus
half-hour good time? Available for postage - $2.00 ought to do it.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
To anyone interested in an Apple //gs, please contact Crew directly.
Reply-to: <crew.r(a)charter.net>
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:24:22 -0600
From: Reynolds <crew.r(a)charter.net>
To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
Subject: RE: Apple II GS
It's in Hurst, TX. I've got enough to boot it up, no docs. I might have
one or two disks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:46 PM
To: Crew Reynolds
Subject: Re: Apple II GS
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Crew Reynolds wrote:
> I've got an old II GS that's going in the dumper unless you want it. Can
> you spring for shipping UPS ground? I'm guessing it will be about $18-20
> to ship.
Hi Crew.
Where is it located? What else do you have with it (i.e. documentation,
software, etc.)?
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I do not normally fix old micros, but I thought I would give this a try.
It is an original 128K Mac, with lots of extra goodies. On power-up, I
get a sick beep, a dead Mac icon, various pixels on the screen flicker
after the screen test, and the code "048298". Not quite dead, but pretty
close.
What does this code mean?
Also, can someone repost that trick for making a tool to get the case
open?
Thanks!
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
Hi Jeffrey:
Some misc thoughts on classiccmp:
When I joined the list, I chose cctech, to reduce the off-topic stuff a
bit. However, When I posted a question to cctech, I missed most of the
answers, since the folks were replying to cctalk. That was no good, so I
joined cctalk instead, and get the extra stuff anyway.
The idea of two lists seems ok, but to me the cctech seems kinda worthless.
Perhaps it is fine for lurkers, but who wants to miss a reply when they
post?
Then the daily volume of emails got high, so I elected digest mode. The
digest is nice and compact, but not easy to use. It would be great if the
message list had clickable links to the messages below, but then it would
need to be html or pdf, I suppose. And nobody really wants html mail (me
included).
Or, is it possible to make the subject lines of the digest messages bold
(in the messages, not the initial digest list)? Perhaps the message number
too? This way it would be easier to find the message when scrolling way
down in the digest. It's just not simple to read the digest. But I
suppose that can't work in plain text mode either.
It is also not simple to reply to a digest message (cut other stuff out,
change the subject...).
How about a diffent kind of digest: is it possible for the email digest to
have links to the web versions of the messages? Then the digest could
reduce to just a daily list of links (and it is still plain-text email,
with http... links). Read the email summary, click on a link, reply from a
button in the browser window... IIRC, there is currently no way to reply
while viewing a message in the browser. If we could do that, plus a daily
digest of links, it would be quite easy to use.
FWIW,
gil
On Mon Jan 6 01:34:10 2003, Jeffrey Sharp cctech(a)classiccmp.org wrote:
> By the way, we now have exactly 720 subscribers.
>
> I would also like to hear (private email please) from subscribers with
> comments for or against the current two-list system. Defense of the ...
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On Mon Jan 6 01:34:10 2003, Jeffrey Sharp cctech(a)classiccmp.org wrote:
> By the way, we now have exactly 720 subscribers.
>
> I would also like to hear (private email please) from subscribers with
> comments for or against the current two-list system. Defense of the ...
Please remember that there might also be people like myself...
"lurkers" who do not subscribe to the list, but instead use the
www.classiccmp.org website archives of the mailing list to actually
read the stuff going on.
In response to your question, I personally like the two list system.
In your re-design of the website, please be aware that possibly
*some* people may be using alternative browsers (ie: *NOT* MS-Internet
Explorer) to access the site, so keeping the browser-specific features
to a minimum would be really nice.
(I personally use lynx (text browser) quite a bit from my VT320 terminal!)
Thomas Dzubin
As I have sent the evil Gates creation, Internet (Blue Screen of Death)
Explorer to the trash bin and purchased a copy of Opera, I must heartily
agree with this suggestion
Rich
>In your re-design of the website, please be aware that possibly
>*some* people may be using alternative browsers (ie: *NOT* MS-Internet
>Explorer) to access the site, so keeping the browser-specific features
>to a minimum would be really nice.
Are y'all ready for *this*??
Somebody bought that fairly bare-bones 11/03 with no HD, a DSD dual RX02
clone, and some kind of I/O board (maybe ADC/DAC??) and a ratty old VT100
w/no keyboard for...
$449.44
whew. Ain't Capitalism grand?
Wonder what a pristine 11/23 would go for... down payment on a bobtail
with a liftgate, maybe???
Cheerz
John
Richard A Cini writes:
.
> Over the vacation I dug out my Seiko/Epson 486 computer. It's a POS
> (point-of-sale) computer that I bought from Timeline two years ago
I picked up the same unit in early '99 for $100 or so, from Timeline.
Wanted to use it as the always-on DNS/NIS/X10 host for the house. It's
really a nice little single-board PC in a small box with 2.5" IDE HDD,
floppy, ISA slot and maybe one other. Haven't used it in a while -
looks like the "CMOS battery" is dead/flat and it won't listen to the
PS/2 keyboard as a result. Weird...
I do have the paper docs, but the question is where... Also, it's one
small perfect-bound booklet, not terribly amenable to scanning. Is
there something specific you need info on?
--S.
New member here, just trying to see what this is all about, I have some dinosaurs in my basement that need new homes!
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Battery replacement instructions for NeXTCube and Dimension are provided in the User's Reference. But I own a NeXTstation N1100 equipped with a decade-old battery and whose screen went dark during use.
Powering down and rebooting were normal, except for the dark screen. According to the User's Reference, the screen problem suggests a weak battery, whose replacement must be performed by a dealer, in spite of the ease of access.
I replaced the battery and hoped for the best, but now the system doesn't boot past the flashing of the keyboard lights. Obviously, the battery-maintained parameter settings in the PRAM have been lost.
Since Mac people developed the NeXTstation, I think I need to zap the PRAM by holding down a key combo during bootup. But I may also need to reinstall the system software, which I don't have.
If you can assist my recovery with instructions, a service manual, and/or a NeXTSTEP 3.0 CDROM, please contact 'Buck' at nashbucket(a)iname.com.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:50:32 -0700
From: Hank Staffa <hstaffa(a)ram-it.com>
To: vcf(a)vintage.org
Subject: Question
Do you have a need
I have boxes of old memory upgrades starting with sipp modules.
Does your organization have a use for these?
Hank Staffa
Rocky Mountain Ram
1-800-543-0932
www.ram-it.com
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>From: "Matthew Sell" <msell(a)ontimesupport.com>
>
>Jimbo,
>
>
>What type of vintage games?
>
>Console or (gulp) coin-operated?
>
>I collect coin operated vintage games - Atari and Bally/Midway.
Hi
I collect pins. The newer ones are computers. Most
of mine are from the late 70's ti early 80's. I guess
that makes them vintage compters, as well.
Dwight
>
>Oh - and vintage compters, of course : )
>
>
>
> - Matt
>
>
>
>At 05:55 PM 1/3/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>>Hi
>>I'm also new to the list. I'm actually more of a collector of Vintage
>>Video Game Systems but Collector computers has always interested me.
>>
>>Thanks
>>-Jimbo
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
>>On Behalf Of C. Murray McCullough
>>Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:58 PM
>>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>>Subject: New to list
>>
>>Hi
>>
>> new to list
>>
>>Murray--
>
>
>
>Matthew Sell
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>
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>http://www.ontimesupport.com/subscribe_t&c.html.
>
>
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>Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...
Do you still need the system diskette for the DEC II? I have several system diskettes, but I also have about 15-18 data diskettes that I would like to retrieve the data from. Perhaps we can exchange favors for each other. Let me know if you're interested.
Thanks!
Rita Wisdom
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>>John Lawson wrote:
>
>> An interesting 11/03 system, has twin DSD 8" drives, and some kind of
>> DSD data acquisition card (A/D D/A???) dunno can't see enough detail in
>> the pics.
>> Seller seems to be rather.... well, 'scattered'.... ;}
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2084606280&category=4193
>> Cheers
>> John
>
>Jerome Fine replies:
>
>Seller also seems to has used an out-of-focus set of shots to blur
>any damage.
>
>At the current price of $ US 9.99, that would seem to be about
>the limit as far as value is concerned. I would not have him power
>things on - too much risk.
>
Well, today we learned that the value is US $449,44. Most amazing.
I realley wonder, which components make up this value, especialley since this
seems to be more or less untested, lacking the CPU-frontbezel and the cables.
My guess was this would raise between 100 and 150. How wrong I was...
Oh by the way, I'm still looking for a VT132, anyone who likes to get rid of
such one?
Frank Arnold
Saw a Spectrum +2 at a car boot sale this morning, complete with label as
follows:
Sinclair Computer
(Works with any monitor or TV)
All games etc.
75 pounds
I spent a while trying to figure out where they'd missed the decimal point . I
actually felt like haggling just to see what the lowest price they were
prepared to offer!
"but it doesn't have a box!"
"Oh, OK, have it for 65 pounds then"
:-)
Jules
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On Jan 4, 12:36, Philip Pemberton wrote:
> pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com wrote:
> > MEK is indeed methyl ethyl ketone, aka butanone.
[...]
> Just out of interest, how does it compare with acetone?
Acetone: TLV 1000ppm
Butanone: TLV 200ppm
IPA: TLV 300ppm
BUT please note these figures vary from authority to authority because of
differing regulations in different countries, and are sometimes revised in
the light of research or experience. The figures I've given are from the
Chemical Society in the UK, and US values may differ. Also, TLV says
nothing about what the effects of excessive exposure might be, nor about
other hazards (fire, caustic effects, etc).
> > Like IPA, acetone (nail
> > varnish remover), methylated sprit, etc, it's fairly flammable.
> Er, fairly flammable? From the reports I've read, it's worse than petrol
> (unleaded, LRP, take your pick).
Actually it's somewhat harder to ignite than petrol, and harder than
acetone. Petrol contains a number of fractions some of which are more
volatile than MEK. From memory (because I don't have any figures handy)
about 5%-10% of petrol is a fraction with BP around 20C-30C, and about 25%
with BP in the range 30C-50C. Boiling Point of acetone is 56C, MEK is 80C.
Petrol is rated as "extremely flammable", as are diethyl ether and
petroleum ether; acetone, MEK, and IPA are all "highly flammable", as are
ethanol and methanol. And if you want the TLV, it's 500ppm (that's without
the nasty additives).
> > BTW, the acetic acid given off
> > by curing RTV is rated as 10-50 times more toxic than MEK :-)
> Hmm...
Acetic acid: TLV 10ppm
TLV (threshold limit value) is a time-weighted average concentration to
which a worker can be exposed day after day without adverse effect.
> I've just found a page that lists some solvents and their uses -
> http://www.seahawkpaints.com/solvents.html
> It lists Xylene as being usable for epoxy and polyurethane resin removal.
> Hmm... Shame the only source of xylene I have is the stuff mixed with
> varnish in my Electrolube "CPL" lacquer pen.
You can get it from some trade paint suppliers as it's used as a thinner
for some epoxy paints. And of course from any industrial or laboratory
chemical supplier, of which there are several in Yorkshire.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>From: Tothwolf <tothwolf(a)concentric.net>
>
---snip---
>
>Those Lithium cells are also *very* toxic/dangerous. I think I'd be more
Hi
I always thought that lithium batteries main advantage was that
they were not particularly toxiic and relatively safe for the environment.
Exposing the insides of a lithium battery to air or water can cause a
fire. Most of these batteries have used up the un-reacted lithium,
that is why they're being replaced.
Dwight
>worried about accidentally cutting into it with a Dremel than I'd be about
>MEK handled safely under proper conditions.
>
>-Toth
>
My apologies to everyone who's waiting to hear
>from me about stuff I've offered on the list
(Philip, Ernest, Rich, Don, Jeff, Sellam, Cameron,
and any others I haven't thought of yet).
I've been going through some difficulties, one
aspect of which is losing most of my memory (and
let me tell ya, that's WEIRD), but I do have
all of it stored in the computer and hope to go
through it real soon now. However, if those of
you who haven't given up on me completely could
send me a quick note reminding me of what we
talked about, it would help a lot.
Once again, my apologies, and a new year full of
exciting finds to you all!
mike
Heinz Wolter wrote:
.
> I always wanted one of those systems - when I was
> in school - Natsemi was pushing those Genix/unix
> kits like crazy to all the undergrads
My entanglement also dates from later in college, in my case
well after most of the NS32k's general purpose CPU success
('89-90). I was noodling around with the notion of building
something capable of running Unix and someone pointed me at
the 32k as something VAX-like that could be obtained in DIP
packaging (the 32008 or 32016, at least).
> but they turned out to be seriously expensive and
> the early 32K parts were severely buggy
I can see that others have already stepped up to this one, so
since I can't speak from direct experience...
--S.
...what's your current email address???
(sorry for banging the list with this, but...)
-jim
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In a message dated 1/6/03 8:49:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
xds_sigma7(a)hotmail.com writes:
> Does this mean I should feel bad/dumb for having thrown like 8 or so of them
>
> in the dumpster a year or two ago?
>
You should have at least without pulled the cardcage. Some of those had full
Z80 system cards inside the small STD bus like cardcage. I also sold a couple
of the keyboards, one through ePay and the other through the list. They are
hard to come by.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
>a few 6502 books, and some interesting Intecolor graphics terminals:
Does this mean I should feel bad/dumb for having thrown like 8 or so of them
in the dumpster a year or two ago?
Will J
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Just click on the "Bid History" link to the right og the number of bids. You
will see (with some interpretation) that the winner put in a bid of $1000 on
01/02, when the current high was $150. There were then six other bids that
ran the total up to the $1,000 limit. The last bid was also $1000, but the
winner's $1000 took precedence, since it was earlier.
-----Original Message-----
From: J.C.Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:54 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: What am I missing here?
I don't know how this would work, because when you place a bid on
eBay, it
will only show the amount necessary to beat a previous bid. Which means if
this guy is running in $10 increments, someone had $990 on it.
<snip>
