I have a DEC VR320 monitor which I have never been
able to get to work on a PC and don't want to spring
for an expensive video card that would sync to it.
I also have a Dec Rainbow 100+ with a color card that
I use with a VR241-A monitor, and a DEC Pro 150.
It occurred to me that the RB or the Pro 150 (in mono)
might work with the VR320. I don't want to chance
blowing something or causing the magic smoke to
escape tho.
Does anyone have any info on this ?
Lawrence
lgwalker@ mts.net
I guess I could scan the CIS chip.. I know I have at least 3 or 4 of them.
Will J
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To find DEC MMJ cables, go to
http://catalog.blackbox.com/BlackBox/templates/blackbox/search.asp
and look for keywords DEC MMJ.
You will probably need at male-male MMJ and a female MMJ to DB9/DB25.
AS with any serial connection, verify pins (on a DB-25) 2-7 and 3-7 (i.e.,
make sure terminal/PC is transmitting on one line, DEC VAX is transmitting on
the other). I usually do this with a VOM; transmit will be a strong (5-15
VDC) signal; receive may be around 0.
Usually you will get a >>> prompt from VAX firmware. It will accept a help
command and you can do "show devices", then try "boot dua0:" or some other
disk device that's listed (they are 99% devices beginning with "d").
Of course you may get a very first product/CPU ID, then some testing
messages. You are hoping that it progresses through the self-tests and gets
you to the >>> firmware prompt. Often >>> will take a "help" command too.
Often you need to send "delete" and not "backspace." Try 9600/8/N/1 settings.
Also probe the Compaq, Montagar, and Process sites. With the VMS hobbyist
program you can get going pretty well these days.
Message: 26
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:27:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Megan <mbg(a)TheWorld.com>
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Chip Upgrades for 11/23 (was Re: 11/03 system on eBay sold)
>
>>Yes, there sure was a CIS chip for the 11/23[+]. And I am still looking
>
>I know... I have one (maybe two) KDF11-B boards with the CIS chip.
>
>>for one to upgrade one of mine. I do have the FPF-11 floating point
>>processor board that alternately connects to the socket for the FIS
>>chip, I have a FIS chip in another processor board, but the sockets for
>>CIS are still vacant in both.
>
>It was my understanding that the EIS/FIS chip is only usable with
>the 11/03 (11/2, PDT) machines (and the PDT requires the dual microm
>in order to make space for it).
Sorry to correct you, but EIS/FIS is an option to the F-11 uprocessor, hence
for 11/23, 11/23+ and 11/24 computers. I'm not aware of any CS-firmware options
for 11/03 or 11/02.
>The CIS chip is a dual-wide
>chip... it spans two chip spaces on the 11/23 and 11/23+ boards.
>
>>Once I get it / Should I ever get it, which languages could make use of
>>it? - Assembler, of course, and COBOL, I think?
>
>You can always do it in assembler. As for cobol or other layered
>products, you probably have to use a version which has been specifically
>built to use those instructions (or can detect their availability on
>the fly and use them).
Dibol does that.
regards,
Frank Arnold
John, I've been trying to get up with you for over a
month to find out if that CDROM drive worked or not.
Please contact me off-list.
Thanks,
Frank
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On Jan 9, 11:36, Frank Arnold wrote:
> I wonder, EIS/FIS chip as well as CIS are basicalley Roms that expand the
> microcode control store of the F-11 microprocessor. True?
Almost. They are ROMs, but EIS/FIS is for the 11/03 KD11 processor, not
the F-11 family. CIS is a set of microcode ROMs for the F-11.
There's quite a lot of information in the KDF11 CPU Module User Guide, and
probably more in a technical manual. Basically, it seems that the the
microcode is stored in a device with two bidirectional 16-bit busses (MIB
and CDAL). MIB is a multiplexed bus. Part of the time it outputs the
current microinstruction and the rest of the time it receives control
signals from the CPU. The CDAL bus (which is actually a 22-bit bus, but
only 16 bits are presented to the option sockets) is what eventually
connects to the external BDAL bus, but it's also used internally for
control signals.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Jan 9, 11:36, Frank Arnold wrote:
> From: Megan <mbg(a)TheWorld.com>
> >It was my understanding that the EIS/FIS chip is only usable with
> >the 11/03 (11/2, PDT) machines (and the PDT requires the dual microm
> >in order to make space for it).
>
> Sorry to correct you, but EIS/FIS is an option to the F-11 uprocessor,
hence
> for 11/23, 11/23+ and 11/24 computers. I'm not aware of any CS-firmware
options
> for 11/03 or 11/02.
No, Megan is correct. EIS/FIS is an option (a single 40-pin MICROM IC
called a KEV11) on the 11/03 KD11 processors. The relevant instructions
are built-in on the 11/23 and 11/24 KDF11 processors. The options for the
KDF11 are KEF11-BB CIS (dual-width), DC304 MMU chip, and KEF11-AA floating
point.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>I have a Mac Portable M5120. It boots (when the hard drive is given enough
>time) and comes with the original carrying case.
>
>Does anyone have any idea how much this is worth? How should I sell it?
Probably under $100
Try posting to the LEM Swap list (go to www.lowendmac.com, look under
mail lists, subscribe, post). There are some collectors there.
Or try eBay. Just don't hold out for a grand, it isn't likely to happen
(won't say it won't, I think we all agree we have seen some pretty insane
eBay deals go thru).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>> In fact, when thinking about building a low speed Game
>> machine for early 90s games, I would go for a 60-200 MHz
>> Pentium, or at least a PCI bus 486.
>
>The problem is that these are all too quick to use with the buggiest
>Sierra game ever: Quest for Glory IV. Which is why I'm going for a slow
>486.
You could always try clocking a faster system to a lower rate, though - just
wire up something so you can choose the clock speed you want before booting. If
whatever audio setup you have gets its timing from the main system clock then
you're out of luck as all the audio would sound wrong, but I image they all
have their own on-board timing.
I remember booting an old 486 at around 3MHz once, just to see if it would
work. It did (took about ten minutes to boot!) but the beep on startup lasted
for about a minute :-)
cheers
Jules
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>From: Andreas Freiherr <Andreas.Freiherr(a)Vishay.com>
>
>Yes, there sure was a CIS chip for the 11/23[+]. And I am still looking
>for one to upgrade one of mine. I do have the FPF-11 floating point
>processor board that alternately connects to the socket for the FIS
>chip, I have a FIS chip in another processor board, but the sockets for
>CIS are still vacant in both.
>
>Once I get it / Should I ever get it, which languages could make use of
>it? - Assembler, of course, and COBOL, I think?
>
>
Hi,
The language that will use it is DIBOL, DIgital Buisiness Orieted Language.
This was packaged in COS300 and COS500 os's. These were if I understood it right
RT11 + Dibol and RSTS + Dibol respectively.
I wonder, EIS/FIS chip as well as CIS are basicalley Roms that expand the
microcode control store of the F-11 microprocessor. True?
If so, whats the word-width and depth of this Rom, and what's the timing? Does
anyone have doc's on this?
Would be interesting to see if I could make a CIS "emulator" from standard
components. I know that the CIS is a six-chip carier-assembly spanning two
sockets on a 11/23+ CPU-board
Regards,
Frank Arnold
I just recently picked up an old 8 bit ISA TV Tuner card, a Compaq
MG9910-20893. On the label it states "For use only with Compaq
Computer Products."
Anyone here ever have one of these? If so, is it true that it can
only be used with an actual Compaq system, or will any DOS/Win 3.1
system with ISA slots work? I need to know before I try to test it.
If it does require a Compaq system, then I will have to pull the hard
drive out of my Linux Box (a Presario 9546) and slap in another drive
and install DOS 6.22 and WfW 3.11. But if it will work in any
system, I can just add it to the old 486/DX-33 I set up just to run
classic DOS games without having to do the great hardware shuffle.
Also, if it does require a Compaq system, has anyone out there used
one of these cards under Linux? Thanks
-- Scarletdown
I have come into posession of some old DEC equipment...
A VAXserver 3100
Storage Expansion Unit (?)
and a VaxStation 4100 (?)
(?) These look pretty stripped, dunno much bout VAX hardware so I can't really say how bad.
The VaxServer 3100 looks to be mostly complete and gives me some beeps if I turn it on.. I wanna try and get the 3100 to a running state (or at least determine if its worth it) ... Anyone have any pointers to information about this specific model? (it seems that the VAXServer 3100 has a number of submodels /w different connections on the rear?) Or, more specifically, how to determine what model it is *specifically* (other than the nameplate on the front)..
The backside says the model # is DJ-31CP1-A, however a google search doesn't turn up much.
The type of and location for serial consoles would prolly be the biggest help, so I can actually get some output from this thing.
Thanks in advance,
-jwb
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> Well, at least it's helping membership. We're at 804 as of this morning.
> That's 622 in cctalk and 182 in cctech, mind you.
But, are you counting people that are subscribed to both, twice? Or, maybe
I should simply be asking is anyone subscribed to both.
Zane
Well the COS I need would be on RL02s... The machines are 11/23's,
DECdatasystem 3something or others, and never had floppies or RK05s, just a
ton of RL02s..
Will J
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An IBM 5114 box, that is just a dual 8" floppy cabinet... yes? Are both
drives the same? (mine have hand written stickers marked D-80 on one, and
D-40 on the other)
I just dug mine out enough to look at it, and that is all it appears to
be. However, I could have sworn that at one point I had a 5 MB hard drive
unit of about the same size (I even had some old 8" floppies that claim
to be backup of a hard drive). Is there a hard drive built into the same
box?
The 5114 has been under my 5110 for many many years, burried in the back
of my telco room. I assume it is the floppy drive unit we used with the
5110, but then, I had assumed it was the 5 MB hard drive that I thought
we once owned.
Maybe now that the 5110 and 5114 are undug, I will take them out and play
with them. I unzippered the bag to the 5110 far enough to confirm that it
is indeed a Basic/APL switchable unit like I thought.
So now the question is... what hard drive was there for use with either
the 5110 or the System/23? I don't know which system my backup floppies
go to, but they are the only two systems that I ever had 8 inch floppies
for, so it must be one of them. (and then the bigger question is... where
did my hard drive go?!? It isn't like it can get up and run away... and
I'm assuming it is large enough that it can't really be hidden in a
corner anywhere... although I did overlook a System/23 datamaster for a
number of years, so anything is possible)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Nick Miller wrote:
> but it is missing the red LED display cover. Does anyone
> know where I might find one?
In case you don't find someone that is sitting
on a pile of H-8 display covers....
Why not get creative?
I can send you a scan of the display cover.
Go down to TAP Plastic and have them cut a piece
of plastic for you and polish the edges.
Using a color printer, there about a half dozen
ways to apply the lettering to the plastic,
>from using a overhead transparency to creating
your own decals. Mounting the display cover can
range from hot meld glue to custom made "ears".
--Doug
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>I have several apple II+ computers, several disk drives, a lot of
>software and accessories.
I'm always on the lookout for an inexpensive SCSI card or hard drive for
the Apple II (any model II is fine, I know they were most common on the
IIgs).
I'm also on the lookout (again, inexpensive) for an AppleCat modem (just
so I can finally have one, then call a friend that eons ago promised me
he would share some software with me... but ONLY via modem, and he
insisted that since he had an AppleCat, I had to have one too... just
gotta get one and then bust his chops about it)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
The keyboard used with an XT is different than that used with an AT and
above.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Hudson [mailto:rhudson@cnonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:32 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: An original Compaq "portable"
> The most difficult part was finding an AT compatible keyboard that
> fits the case. Compaq did make some (used in a 286 version of the
> Portable) but they're not easy to find.
>
Wouldn't a keyboard adapter work? Use the keyboard you got and just
adapt it to the motherboard.
Theres a small slide switch on the LHS of the case (from memory)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:35 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Amstrad PPC640 (PSU's Polarity and Amps needed)
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Tony Duell wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can use a 12V (or so) PSU -- it doesn't even have
> to be regulated.
> >
> > The coaxial power connector is centre positive.
>
> My question is, how the heck do you turn one on???
>
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I want to thank you for your answer concerning the Compaq Portable. It has
all the manuals and it is in mint condition. It has about 75 disks that were
in the box. It has the original books entitled Basic Version Reference
Guide.(3) It has the Silver Logo on the case so it is one of the first made.
They later upgraded them to a "plus" model which has the Gold Logo. I am
really impressed with the condition. It also works.
I ran across it at a consignment shop and it needed a home. I am not sure
what I am going to do with it.
Thanks again,
YVONNE
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