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by bradleyandassociates＠choice.net

Hello: I am new to this listing, so please bear with me. I have a couple of Apple II+ computers circa 1979-1980 - were working when shut down many years ago. Is there a market for these? or should I put in trash? Thanks. Ken Bradley Ken Bradley Bradley & Associates 859.344.1965 859.344.1967 (Fax) bradleyandassociates(a)choice.net http://users.choice.net/~bradl/ Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Bradley & Associates

23 years, 3 months

IBM PS/2 Model 25

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/13/2003 3:20:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes: << > I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think). It's the > all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It should > have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a keyboard and mouse would be > nice. > >> they can be found, but are QUITE heavy!

23 years, 3 months

PDP-12 on eBay

by bones＠northrock.bm

You know you're (I'm) a geek when you're interested in buying CD's with high rez pix of naked computers <grin>. I too would love to have a copy of the CD - I wonder if he'd entertain the possibility of selling *that* on it's own... Dennis

23 years, 3 months

Osborne OCC1

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Glen, Attached is a ZIP file with two JPEG images that are scans of pages from the Osborne 1 Technical Manual that relate to the PS and wiring. They might be useful to you. Bob -----Original Message----- From: acme(a)ao.net [mailto:acme@ao.net] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:03 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Re: Osborne OCC1 From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> To: Glen Goodwin <acme(a)ao.net> Subject: Re: Osborne OCC1 Date: 01/08/2003 7:55 AM > I recently had an OCC-1 that blew something in the PSU. That odd thing was > at it kept working! I wasn't really intersted in it so I gave it to Glen Good > . I expect that he'll troubleshoot/repai > r it soon. Okay, Joe, I get the hint ;>) I'll take a look at it this weekend -- should be a quick and easy fix. Later -- Glen 0/0

23 years, 3 months

Osborne OCC1

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Oops! This was not meant to go to the list, but if the images are useful to anyone else ... -----Original Message----- From: Feldman, Robert Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:51 AM To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: Re: Osborne OCC1 <snip>

23 years, 3 months

MicroNOVA on eBay

by jss＠subatomix.com

Um, someone needs to bid this idea right out of the seller's head: "Don't need the microNOVA? Then toss it and use the rack!" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2300442901 Stirling, NJ. Pickup only. $1 init bid. I am not associated with the seller. -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 3 months

Fortran Coding Form

by Roy_Edenfield＠engelhard.com

If you still have these, I would like to have them. Please let me know. > I found a stack (3) of 'Fortran Coding Form' pads with an IBM logo, > GX28-7327-6 U/M 050, Printed in the USA. Legal size (8x17)Nice light > green, one stack is pretty nice, the others show a little yellowing. > Don't know what dates these were available for. The lab I found these at > was created in 1973, so that's a good limit for the 'Wayback machine'. > > I assume these are what Fortran coders would arrange their code on before > translating the code into the paperpunches. > > Header fields are Program, Programmer, Date, Punching Instructions > (Graphic or Punch), Page Of, Card Electro Number. > > The main area is headed up with Comm (comment?), Statement Number, Cont > (continue?), Fortran Statement, Identification Sequence, followed but > miscellaneous squares numbered from 1 to 80. > > Asterisked comments at the bottom are "A standard card form, IBM 888157, > is available for punching statements from this form" and "Number of forms > per pad may vary slightly". [snicker- especially if you pulled a few out!] > > Anyone want For Free? I imagine it'd be a cool prop material for your > classic cmp. I'll stuff it in an envelope and send it out bookrate. > > L

23 years, 3 months

PDP-12 on eBay

by nicko＠hal-pc.org

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote: > > > Zane H. Healy wrote: > > >>It looks like Al Kossow is the high bidder now, and he surpased the > > > > > This is one system I *REALLY* hope he gets! I want to see scan's of some > > > of those manuals :^) > > > > Seems like Al has been outbid, is it time to set up a subscription to > > support Al in snagging the machine? I'd be up to subscribing $50 toward > > such a project. > > Is it only me, or does that listing look like hammered crap in > Mozilla? I'm on my laptop, which runs at 1400x1050 only, so I have the > fonts juked up to 14pt. The text runs right over the bidding frame and > most of the pics. > It's not the font size either - I turned my fonts down to 10 pt. and > no joy. > > Doc > Me to! Had to resort to IE to be able to read the whole page. -nick

23 years, 3 months

DOS 1.0

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Those binders usually had useful information in them. And at least there was printed documentation, as opposed to today. As to the software, I wold hardly call it "infantile." Limited, perhaps. But remember what programs such as WordStar ran under (64KB RAM for CP/M and program code). I had WordStar on one 90KB SSSD disk on my Osborne 1, and could put 20 pages of text on another disk, and do real work. SuperCalc came on another 90KB disk. Try to do that with MS bloatware. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Tillman [mailto:ETILLMAN@satx.rr.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:13 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: DOS 1.0 Hmm... In the '80s, almost everything came in small, tabbed 3-ring binders, and were all quite funny to read! :) Does anyone remember Peach Text, Peach Calc, WordStar or any of the other infantile office software? They all had 'em... Cheers... Ed <snip>

23 years, 3 months

DOS 3.20

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Any ideas where to find one now though? Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Fred Cisin > (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:02 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: DOS 3.20 > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, John Willis wrote: > > IBM PC-DOS or Micro$oft MS-DOS? I have the PC-DOS 3.20 manual. > > The only difference that I found between them (except for certain highly > customized OEM MS-DOS versions) was DRIVPARM. It is present in both, but > is not documented in PC-DOS. It is incompatible with the IBM BIOS. > > (DRIVPARM worked with both PC-DOS and MS-DOS with three different generic > clones; DRIVPARM would not work with either MS-DOS nor PC-DOS on real IBM > AT and PS/2 (model 50?)) > > > Some OEMs included the "technical reference manual" as appendix to their > MS-DOS manual. IBM sold it as a separate book after 2.00. >

23 years, 3 months

DOS 1.0

by mhaffely＠katun.com

I found an IBM M$-DOS 1.0 manual (no disks sadly) It comes in a three ring binder, and is quite funny to read, esp the errata. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. **********************************************************************

23 years, 3 months

Anybody near Bremerton, Washington?

by djg＠drs-esg.com

I have been looking for a Calcomp incremental plotter and found one in Bremerton, Washington but it is pickup only. Since I'm on the other coast that isn't too practical. Is anybody nearby that might be interested in picking it up and mailing it FedEx ground to me for some $? Thanks, David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.

23 years, 3 months

An original Compaq "portable"

by JOHNSOY＠aol.com

Thank you so much. I will try. Good luck in your hobby. YVONNE Y

23 years, 3 months

Eurobeeb finds

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Before the new year I had a lead on some parts and said I would reveal what they were after I won or lost the bid on them. Well I won. What I got was a lot of EuroBeeb cards and parts. For those that don't know the EuroBeeb was a BBC Micro compatible computer but in a EuroCard (160mm x 100mm) format. As well as the standard CPU, VDU and I/O cards theer are a lot of digital I/O cards, analog I/O cards and some specials such as EPROM programmers. I also got the documentation for all the cards, the only thing I'm short of is some of the system software. For those who want to look there are some pictures at .. http://members.lycos.co.uk/leeedavison/6502/eurobeeb/score/index.html Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years, 3 months

Old machine photos

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Foil, or any metallic reflector, can produce hot spots. A large piece of white poster board works better. A trick for photographing reflective surfaces is to use a black sheet _in front of_ the subject, and shoot with the lens sticking through a hole in the sheet. In this way, you don't get your own reflection in the picture. Hair spray also works, but might be hard to clean off. Spray laundry starch might also work, but I haven't tried it. Watch for glare off chip surfaces, which can make part numbers unreadable. The trick is to have the light coming in at an angle that does not reflect into the lens. A common setup is two (or 4) lights, one on either side, at a 45 degree angle (with the camera perpendicular to the subject). In this way, the fall-off from the light on one side is balanced by the opposite fall-off of the light on the other side, so the illumination is even across the subject. For 3D objects, it is customary to have the (brightest) light coming from the upper left, so the shadows are on the lower right. Sean's last comment is a good one -- keep taking pictures until you get good ones. The only added cost is in your time, but then why take the time to produce a poor picture? -----Original Message----- From: Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner [mailto:spc@conman.org] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:03 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Old machine photos > <snip> The goal is to light the computer well and > eliminate glare - especially on screens. A large piece of cardboard covered in aluminum foil makes a good reflector, and to reduce glare on monitors you may want to try hairspray. Professional photographers use it to reduce glare on glasses so it might be worth trying on a monitor if you don't think it'll hurt it. <snip> If it's a digital camera, go wild with the pictures. Take lots of pictures; more than you think you need. Then select the best from the lot. Why not? It's not like you have to pay for developing the pictures. -spc (Go for quantity, then select for quality ... )

23 years, 3 months

Looking for 8050 drive(s)

by ksk＠ieee.org

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative

23 years, 3 months

SEIKOSHA SP1000VC

by Pvolks＠usa.net

Hello there, for those interested I've got a SEIKOSHA SP1000VC with the C-64 cable. It has not operated in many years since I sold my c-64 a very long time ago. But it worked flawlessly and hasn't been dropped or abused since. For those interested I am asking for the first good offer over $40us. E-mail me if your interested. PETER K.

23 years, 3 months

An original Compaq "portable"

by JOHNSOY＠aol.com

Look, Just tell me how to remove my name. Please. I can never give any information or help anyone. I am older and not interested. I have poor vision and to delete so many emails is more than I can deal with. Someone help me get unsubscribed...Please YVONNE Y

23 years, 3 months

Mentec Hobbyist plans?

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>Bill Bradford wrote: > >Anybody know if Mentec (http://www.mentec-inc.com) has just >dropped their hobbyist licensing/cdrom plans? The Mentec Hobbyist license is *broken*. Clause 1. says: 'EMULATOR shall mean software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation that emulates the operation of a PDP-11 processor and allows PDP-11 programs and operating systems to run on non-PDP-11 systems.' It's crystal-clear; you can't run under the hobbyist license except on a emulator which is *owned by Digital*. There ARE no emulators 'owned by Digital' (or Compaq or HP for that matter). So the Mentec license is no help to anyone who wants to run pdp-11 OSes on emulation (SIMH, E11 etc), and stay 100% legal. It's no help at all as regards running on acutal -11 hardware. It's a very wierd term to have in a license... I guess this term is a hangover from the days when Bob Supnik was still at DEC, and SIMH might have become an official DEC project. Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

An original Compaq "portable"

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Then there were/are the Webbies... > > WebTV - Get youres' 2dAy! Hey... I got great use from WebTV... I bought someone's used system for $10 at a garage sale. Saved me $40 on the cost of the keyboard to work with my Satellite Decoder... and I got a 1 gig IDE hard drive as a bonus. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

scanning notes (was RE: VAX 11/780 /750 Diagnostics - new project)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> Do you have any tips for scanning books? Such as resolution, color >> settings, etc... And to go one step further... recommendations for what hardware people use for scanning? I am thinking about undertaking some manual archiving. Mostly so I can get rid of manuals that I no longer need, but might want to reference once again some day in the future. I was thinking of using an old HP OfficeJet all in one Fax/Scanner/Printer for the task. I figured that way I could drop a dozen pages on it at a time. I don't have a sheet feeder for any of my flatbed scanners. Would something like this work for the task? Or am I better off locating a cheap used sheet feeder for a flat bed scanner. In the long run I figure I will save to PDF... but with how cheap CDs are, I will most likely keep the interm scanned image as well, and just make the PDF more for easy quick access to the pages. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

An original Compaq "portable"

by jac＠clarkeorg.com

I have an original Compaq portable, that I had hoped to some day gut out and put in a "modern" motherboard etc, with an updated screen, but now it appears as if it may actually be of worth to someone as is. I even have the original receipt from Sears Business Center, where I bought it. Got an IBM proprinter also at the time, but that is now long gone. Anyway, is there some way to find out what the value of my Compaq is? Thanks to all who reply. John Clarke Philadelphia, PA

23 years, 3 months

Anybody need some RL02s?

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I got a mail from a person in Houston who has an 11/44 they needed to get rid of... but their u-haul truck fell through, and they had to haul it up here to Austin in batches, in their car. Tonight I got the first part of the batch - which ended up being a pair of RL02 drives, and a MINC-11! pictures: http://www.pdp11.org/minc/ Anybody need the RL02s? Right now, I'm concentrating mostly on getting all this documentation organized and scanned (finally!) and just messing around with smaller systems. So, I dont have space for the RL02s, although I'll be using that enclosure to rackmount some other equipment. Next week (hopefully), he'll be bringing up the 11/44 if weather and time permits. Therefore, two free RL02s. Must be picked up in Austin, Texas. I *might* have a disk pack for one of them around somewhere as well; need to dig. Megan Gentry - please email me your postal address again; I have a huge box of print sets and paper tapes to send your way. Email me if interested.. Bill -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

23 years, 3 months

TK50 / RSX Docs

by runtime＠wzrd.com

Sorry, folks. Both have been spoken for. Don

23 years, 3 months

Digging in basement, "new" finds (pick, m4 data 1/2 tape)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I was digging in the basement, and found a few things I forgot I had. I think some on the list may be interested in copies of some of this stuff, if so, let me know off list. A lot of Pick Assembler documentation from my days working on the Pick O/S: The original "rainbow" microdata reality assembler manual, the ultimate pick assembler manual, the general automation pick assembler manual, and the alpha microsystems pick "open architecture" assembler manual. Some of the stuff in this box was "confidential - internal only" and not for public release. I doubt they care these days. Various info on the M4 Data autoloading 1/2 tape drive: The M4 Data 9900 series tape drive field service manual (very thick, includes schematics), the M4 Data Diagnostics manual for 8900, 9800, and 9903 streaming tape drives (this is really 5 pages of quick reference lists for the diagnostics on the drive). Then there is a 3 page chart showing the jumper settings for the optional SCSI interface card (this drive was most often pertec, not scsi). I seem to recall someone asking about this on the list a while back. I was sure I had accidentally pitched this info - so I was quite happy to find it, since I have a mint M4 in the basement :) Jay West

23 years, 3 months

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