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by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At auction I picked up the following: 1. Black Macintosh TV no mouse, KB, or remote with it. Will test it on Wednesday. 2. Box of 82+ video cards. 3. Box of New capacitors (100's). 4. Many more items but too new to list in detail. At thrifts: 1. TI external disk controller model PHP1800C 2. 3-CompacTape TK50 cartridges from digital. The labels on them read: Vax RDB/VMS 4.1A STAND TK; RDB 5.1A STANDARD TK50; and Vax RDB/VMS 4.1A MULTI TK5. Each was $1

23 years, 3 months

Hackers Guide to the APPLE II

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

Hi all Does anyone know where I can get the Hackers Guide to the Apple II. I know the controversy surrounding the subject but this Guide was mostly directed to the hardware-side of the Apple and permitted one to program it to control gadgets around the house. Many thanks. Murray--

23 years, 3 months

Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The "model" (whatever it is) might be correct for market situations where the buyer and seller can negotiate a price, but I doubt that it was designed to cover situations like auctions, especially eBay auctions. My last $0.02 on this subject. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:31 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers? <snip> The science, and the model, is correct. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

AERCO RAM Upgrade for Atari-ST

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

One of my beloved Classic Computers is an Atari-ST. It's only a 520-ST (512k RAM), so in the heyday... I bought a RAM upgrade to bring it up to 2.5mb of RAM, with the possibility of 4mb... I've lost the manual, and also... The upgrade no longer works at all... Does anyone have the manual for one of these they can send me, or point me to someone who will sell me a RAM upgrade for this unit? I still have instructions to solder chips to get it to 1mb, but I'd prefer to max it out if I can. Also, I'm looking for a SCSI adapter for it, as I have several SCSI drives from 80mb to 1.2gb. I'd like to put one on here to make it more useful. I won a Spectre 128 GCR adapter on eBay a few months ago, so a 4mb (or so) Mac Plus, would be a useful machine to use for Wordprocessing... Or just for play. I'm going to TCF this year and hoping to spot a Color Display for this unit so I can play some of the old games in Color. I have a composite cable that runs to my Amiga Monitor, but the display isn't all that crisp. I have some Tandy Color Computer Stuff for trade (Editor/Assembler for Coco III, Serial to Parallel Adapter, Disk System & Controller, RS-232 Adapter, more...), and possibly some other interesting things, including cash... Regards, Al __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by cb＠mythtech.net

> I have an old macintosh portable I bought in 1995. I have no idea what >it is worth but I love it. I am also not very computer literate. I also >own a macintosh preforma 6360. I now own an imac. Maryann DeMatthews Well, I'm not sure what you are getting at with your email, but the question posed in the subject line was "what's a Performa"... and the simple answer is... a Mac that Apple produced during a time when they thought that different names would increase sales. Performa's were the same Mac's as the LCs, and some Quadra's and PowerMac's. Apple was under the misguided notion that if you complicate the product line by releasing the same computer under 3 different names, you could convince different market segments to buy their version of the computer at their price. LC's were marketed to education and sold at one price, with one software bundle Performa's were marketed to the home user, sold at a different price, and with a different software bundle and Quadra's and PowerMac's were marketed to businesses, at an even more inflated price and with almost no software bundled. Of course, I am SOOO glad that Apple decided to go to the opposite extreme with their product lines, and name everything, no matter how radically different, the exact same thing. Makes it so wonderful to try and figure out what model someone is using over the phone -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

PDP-12 on eBay

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

>On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Honniball wrote: > There's one in the Science Museum (London) collection. It appeared in > Tim Hunkin's "Secret Life of Machines" TV series a few years ago. I missed the context of this, but that grabbed my attention. Is it actually *at* the Science Museum - or out at Wroughton? I only recently found out that all the large stuff is kept off-site there and can be visited by prior arrangement; I must go for a wander around sometime... cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

International shipping

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I sell all over the world and have no troubles with it, many times the cost of shipping is more than the cost. I almost always use the US Postal System for overseas shipment. They have reliable systems and treat packages much better than UPS. Global Priority mail for items under a kilo is very easy and the USPS will even provide envelopes and boxes for small stuff. The Post Office also has a software program that will allow you to calculate shipping anywhere in the world besides the US. It is the USPS Postal Assistant and you can get it on CD or download it from the USPS. Since the rate charts need regular updating it is easier to use the download. There are interesting differences over the world. For instance Global priority will not work to Italy, only regular air post. These are easy to figure out with the USPS software. The USPS is also very competitive on shipping to other countries. When I do estimates of cost, the USPS always wins over sending by UPS, Airborne or Federal Express. FedEx often comes in second by the way. USPS works internationally, quite well. Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 3 months

Dec 3000/300 keyboard/mouse box

by steven_nikkel＠ertyu.org

I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes. What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively? -- Steven Nikkel

23 years, 3 months

Further Ebay Madness: On topic

by jpl15＠panix.com

One of the Tandy 486 machines from the Treasury Sale of the old Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada... data intact!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=179&item=2084442322 Asking $895.00 - auction ended - nobody bid. 10 OPEN REG #mind(brain)((skull)) 20 SET (@boggle = TRUE) 30 CLOSE ((skull))(brain) 40 PONDER {world_is_getting_wierd} Cheerz John

23 years, 3 months

Let Programmers Worldwide Bid On Your Tech Projects

by mediaking8＠libero.it

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23 years, 3 months

Fw: KIM audio files

by edsa＠alphalink.com.au

Hi. Do you own the KIM-1 Repository website? I tried sending to the following email addr given on the page but it bounced... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed" <edsa(a)alphalink.com.au> To: <dogbert(a)mindless.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: KIM audio files > Hi, > > I've "just stumbled over The KIM-1 repository" :) > > I don't have a KIM-1 myself though I've had an interest in things > 6502 having once owned a UK101, C64 etc. > > I was particularly interested in your sampled KIM programs. > > I've also been experimenting with the computer programs stored > on audio cassette. My webpage has an encoder/decoder for Kansas > City Standard formatted tapes. www.alphalink.com.au/~edsa > > I noticed your WAV files are 16 bit mono, 11025 samples/sec. > I've found that using a resolution of 8-bits is more than adequate > for this type of task. Using 8 bit would cut your filesize by half! > > While researching the Kansas City Standard tape format, I read a > comment suggesting this was also used by KIM. However some > digging indicated this was not so. > > Since completing the KCS program, I felt the techniques used > could be adapted for just about any format including KIM. > However I wasn't sure how much demand there might be for a > KIM version. If you or other KIM users would be interest in > such a program, let me know. > > regards, > Ed > >

23 years, 3 months

Clinton Macintosh Repair & Maintenance Manual

by morgan＠cleptoscastle.com

I would be very interested in any Macintosh literature anyone may have that they do not need. Thank you. Morgan

23 years, 3 months

Was there a DEC LINC-5 (not -8)?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Sellam wrote: . >> strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large . > Are you sure it wasn't a PDP-5? It definitely said LINC - the questionable part is that I think it said '-5', but I've never heard of a LINC-5 since then. I would've remembered if it said PDP-5. I'm beginning to think I must have gotten the number wrong somehow... In which case, it was still a pretty uncommon beast to come across, even though I didn't really get to know it. Can anyone say how tall a LINC-8 stood? Perhaps the countertop we had under the console was a post-sale addition. This comes partly >from staring at the picture of a LINC-8 here: http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/vs-dec-linc-8.jpg Thanks, all. --Steve.

23 years, 3 months

DOS 1.0

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

The "this page left blank" was a borrow from military 'technical orders.' Though quite stodgy about their regs t times, they mostly new that improvements and innovations would soon render a fixed document obsolete. So, they kept them in binders, replaced outdated pages with updated ones, and kept the "blank" pages as place holders (0's, if you like) for expansion beyond the then current document/section/segment length. Clear as mud? Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Live Wire" > <livewire(a)netadel.com> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:58 PM > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: DOS 1.0 > > > infamous "This page intentionally left blank" page. What's up with > that?? > > I have a stack of these pages ;) > > > I do also memember Wordstar and it's arcane command sequences. Those > > commands persisted though, through a number of ordinary text editors for > > programmers & such. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/joe-editor/ > > This is as close to wordstar and the WS CTRL-K-x command set I have found. > I used to use wordstar on a tiny portable computer with a 4 line display > to > write asm for the amiga 500 and then dump it via the built in modem. > Joe is my favorite editor today, though I find myself living in vi for the > most part... >

23 years, 3 months

[MichaelDumas1@aol.com: VAX 4000-700 computer Center]

by classiccmp＠crash.com

This computer center is also listed on eBay, FYI: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1479&item=2300985733 --S.

23 years, 3 months

Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

One could always do a mean and standard deviation on a group of eBay prices and get a reasonable measure of what a typical price might be. Still, you cannot deny that the extreme prices are actual prices that somebody paid. Just don't expect to get that much every time (or even ever again). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:30 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers? <snip> There are, and have been, for decades, valid mathematical and actuarial methods for determining the value of a given object based on several criteria, including of course supply and demand. Why should ending prices of eBay auctions all of a sudden supercede that science? <snip>

23 years, 3 months

Wicat 150

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi, I just checked the Wicat that I picked up recently. It powers up and gives a flashing block cursor on the screen but no other screen display. Is that normal? The hard drive spins up and recalibrates after about ten seconds but it's not being accessed otherwise. Any sugggestions? This one came from the Navel Training systems Center in Orlando Florida and it's very clean inside and has a full set of cards including what I think is a 2nd (optional) memory card. There's also a CMI 5619 hard drive in it. Joe

23 years, 3 months

Wicat computer?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I saw the recent discussions about these on this list but didn't read them since I'd never seen a Wicat computer and didn't know what one was. Well, today that changed. Can someone give me the run down on a wicat S-150A? Joe

23 years, 3 months

[MichaelDumas1@aol.com: VAX 4000-700 computer Center]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Located in Memphis, TN - please contact him directly if interested. Bill ----- Forwarded message from MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com ----- From: MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:16:00 EST Subject: VAX 4000-700 computer Center To: mrbill(a)decvax.org I have a complete computer center for sale and liquidation. The server is a Vax 4000/600 which I believe was upgraded to a 700 SCSI Card 128MB Winchester Flash Cluster 32 GB of storage Decserver 700 24 VT420 Terminals 2 Rack Cabinets (smoked glass) 1 UDS Modem Rack w/ 14 Modems and 2 Power supplies 2 remote WAN Muxes Datability VCP 1000 Xerox 9-track 6250 tape drive 2 DAT Units 1 600LPM Printer 4 Monarch Computer Center Cabinets (pull down steel doors) 4 metal tape stands lots of VAX manuals, parts and accessories Need to sell, deinstall, or give away. Any ideas? Michael Dumas (901)737-7009 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

23 years, 3 months

Help with pricing on EPay

by cb＠mythtech.net

> One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US >who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to >anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world. >Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the >most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to" >section. I routinely respond to something I'm interested >in with "will you not ship to Canada" and the answer is >almost invariably yes. They simply did the default form. You'll be happy to know, that I check that I will ship to Canada. I've only done a few auctions, but those that I have done, I always say yes to Canada. Not to other places, but that is going to change... I have been limiting my ship to range only because I am new at auctions and want to get a feel for it before I have to start deailing with international shipping. But I've sent enough items to Canada in the past, that I'm comfortable with what's involved with it. > The problems with the commercial shippers like UPS is a >different number, and while it may work well in-country is >a disaster outside. This is my major problem with shipping outside the US (minus canada). I have heard horror stories about UPS and FedEx going to other countries. So when I am counting on using FedEx for delivery, I worry about what is going to be involved with getting the package to the person if they aren't in North America. So my line of thought has been... let me get the auction concept under my belt... then I'll work on the international shipping issues. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Y2K/Y10K for V5.03 of RT-11

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

I'm interested in what you propose, but suspect that Y10K would be overkill at this point. I'd like to see design discussion opened up for that... but it may all be moot since it wouldn't be compatible with V5.4, V5.5, V5.6, V5.7... ... and it is the sort of change which would truly affect everything in the system, requiring sources to rebuild the fixes... since no-one but Mentec has rights to the sources, the product of any such change would be strictly illegal, so I am wondering how you are proposing to get around that. Megan

23 years, 3 months

[for sale] IBM 5100 + IBM 5120

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Is it possible to just put the unzipped files on your web server? I don't > like to download zips. Oh, I do. It goes really well with all the HTML markup that turns up here :-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

Dec 3000/300 keyboard/mouse box

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003; Steven Nikkel <steven_nikkel(a)ertyu.org> scribbled: > I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards > and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes. > What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively? First of all, a RANT: Why is it that when a company takes a machine out of service, the first thing they do is toss the cables. Over the years I have scrounged a few DECstations only to find that the video cables were nowhere to be found. I also managed to haul home several VXT2000 workstations but only one video cable amongst all of them. $&^%**&%% Anyway. It is not so much a breakout box as it is a (rather long) cable with a molded box on the end of it. The box contains the sockets for the keyboard and mouse. I put together some info a while back and I will just paste it to the end of this. Hope it helps, Mike Thompson P.S. I have to wonder, now that you know what you are looking for, if it might not be worth another search around work. DECstation 5000 keyboard/mouse cable and related info --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- The DECstation 5000 has a 15 pin (male) D connector on the back for keyboard and mouse connections. There is a cable that plugs into the 5000 connector and has a keyboard socket (RJ-11) and a mouse socket (7 pin mini-din) on the other end. The part number for the cable is 17-02640-01. A reader of a previous version of this has confirmed from the manual EK-PELCN-OG for the Dec 3000/300L AXP that the same cable is used on that series of machines. He also confirmed the following pinout information. For a keyboard, use a LK201, LK401, or LK402. For a mouse, use a VSXXX-AA (round hockey puck) or VSXXX-GA (rectangular). CABLE INFO The cable pinout (from the DECstation 5000/240 manual) is: Pin Signal Desc. 1 GND Ground (to keyboard socket) 2 KEY.TX Keyboard transmitted data 3 KEY.RX Keyboard received data 4 +12v Keyboard power 5 GND Ground 6 MSE.RX Mouse received data 7 MSE.TX Mouse transmitted data 8 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 9 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 10 NC 11 NC 12 NC 13 +5v Mouse power 14 -12v Mouse power 15 GND Ground (to mouse socket) I have also verified the above info with a VOM. KEYBOARD INFO As for the keyboard, I had a couple of them open a while back (to clean out the cookie crumbs) and traced them out somewhat. Looking into the end of the plug on the cable coming from the keyboard. |------------| | o o o o | | B R G Y | |___| |___| |____| B - Black - Data from keyboard R - Red - +12v to keyboard G - Green - Ground Y - Yellow - Data to keyboard And looking into the socket on the end of the 17-02640-01 cable: (also applies to the keyboard socket on a terminal such as a VT420) |------------| | o o o o | | Y G R B | |___| |___| |____| Pin Y to pin 3 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 G to pin 1 ... R to pin 4 ... B to pin 2 ... I do not include pin numbers for the keyboard connector because I have found on-line references to some of this info and in some cases the pin numbers differ. Your mileage may vary. MOUSE INFO As for the mouse, you will find the pinouts below and the signals. Please note that the pin numbers may not be the official DEC numbers. Here again, I have seen on-line references to some of this info and the pin numbers differ. Looking into the plug coming from the mouse: 5 6 7 o o o 4 o === o 1 o o 3 2 1 - -12v 2 - Data to mouse 3 - Ground 4 - Data from mouse 5 - +5v 6 - nc 7 - nc And looking at the socket on a machine or end of the 17-02640-01 cable: 7 6 5 o o o 1 o === o 4 o o 2 3 Pin 1 to pin 14 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 2 to pin 6 ... 3 to pins 8, 9, & 15 ... 4 to pin 7 ... 5 to pin 13 ... 6 nc 7 nc

23 years, 3 months

Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC

by cpg＠aladdin.de

On 01/14/2003 08:41:05 AM EST Ron Collison wrote: > >Anyone interested? I'm interested. regards, chris

23 years, 3 months

Macro Assembler for early generation PC

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found the tech ref manual in my collectibles, but will have to look for the software if anyone is interested?

23 years, 3 months

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