At auction I picked up the following:
1. Black Macintosh TV no mouse, KB, or remote with it. Will test it on
Wednesday.
2. Box of 82+ video cards.
3. Box of New capacitors (100's).
4. Many more items but too new to list in detail.
At thrifts:
1. TI external disk controller model PHP1800C
2. 3-CompacTape TK50 cartridges from digital. The labels on them read: Vax
RDB/VMS 4.1A STAND TK; RDB 5.1A STANDARD TK50; and Vax RDB/VMS 4.1A MULTI
TK5. Each was $1
Hi all
Does anyone know where I can get the Hackers Guide to the Apple II. I
know the controversy surrounding the subject but this Guide was mostly
directed to the hardware-side of the Apple
and permitted one to program it to control gadgets around the house.
Many thanks.
Murray--
The "model" (whatever it is) might be correct for market situations where
the buyer and seller can negotiate a price, but I doubt that it was designed
to cover situations like auctions, especially eBay auctions.
My last $0.02 on this subject.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:31 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers?
<snip>
The science, and the model, is correct.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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One of my beloved Classic Computers is an Atari-ST.
It's only a 520-ST (512k RAM), so in the heyday... I
bought a RAM upgrade to bring it up to 2.5mb of RAM,
with the possibility of 4mb...
I've lost the manual, and also... The upgrade no
longer works at all...
Does anyone have the manual for one of these they can
send me, or point me to someone who will sell me a RAM
upgrade for this unit?
I still have instructions to solder chips to get it to
1mb, but I'd prefer to max it out if I can.
Also, I'm looking for a SCSI adapter for it, as I have
several SCSI drives from 80mb to 1.2gb. I'd like to
put one on here to make it more useful.
I won a Spectre 128 GCR adapter on eBay a few months
ago, so a 4mb (or so) Mac Plus, would be a useful
machine to use for Wordprocessing... Or just for play.
I'm going to TCF this year and hoping to spot a Color
Display for this unit so I can play some of the old
games in Color. I have a composite cable that runs to
my Amiga Monitor, but the display isn't all that
crisp.
I have some Tandy Color Computer Stuff for trade
(Editor/Assembler for Coco III, Serial to Parallel
Adapter, Disk System & Controller, RS-232 Adapter,
more...), and possibly some other interesting things,
including cash...
Regards,
Al
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> I have an old macintosh portable I bought in 1995. I have no idea what
>it is worth but I love it. I am also not very computer literate. I also
>own a macintosh preforma 6360. I now own an imac. Maryann DeMatthews
Well, I'm not sure what you are getting at with your email, but the
question posed in the subject line was "what's a Performa"... and the
simple answer is... a Mac that Apple produced during a time when they
thought that different names would increase sales. Performa's were the
same Mac's as the LCs, and some Quadra's and PowerMac's. Apple was under
the misguided notion that if you complicate the product line by releasing
the same computer under 3 different names, you could convince different
market segments to buy their version of the computer at their price.
LC's were marketed to education and sold at one price, with one software
bundle
Performa's were marketed to the home user, sold at a different price, and
with a different software bundle
and Quadra's and PowerMac's were marketed to businesses, at an even more
inflated price and with almost no software bundled.
Of course, I am SOOO glad that Apple decided to go to the opposite
extreme with their product lines, and name everything, no matter how
radically different, the exact same thing. Makes it so wonderful to try
and figure out what model someone is using over the phone
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Honniball wrote:
> There's one in the Science Museum (London) collection. It appeared in
> Tim Hunkin's "Secret Life of Machines" TV series a few years ago.
I missed the context of this, but that grabbed my attention. Is it actually
*at* the Science Museum - or out at Wroughton? I only recently found out that
all the large stuff is kept off-site there and can be visited by prior
arrangement; I must go for a wander around sometime...
cheers
Jules
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I sell all over the world and have no troubles with it, many times the cost
of shipping is more than the cost.
I almost always use the US Postal System for overseas shipment. They have
reliable systems and treat packages much better than UPS. Global Priority
mail for items under a kilo is very easy and the USPS will even provide
envelopes and boxes for small stuff.
The Post Office also has a software program that will allow you to calculate
shipping anywhere in the world besides the US. It is the USPS Postal
Assistant and you can get it on CD or download it from the USPS. Since the
rate charts need regular updating it is easier to use the download.
There are interesting differences over the world. For instance Global
priority will not work to Italy, only regular air post. These are easy to
figure out with the USPS software.
The USPS is also very competitive on shipping to other countries. When I do
estimates of cost, the USPS always wins over sending by UPS, Airborne or
Federal Express. FedEx often comes in second by the way.
USPS works internationally, quite well.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards
and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes.
What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively?
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One of the Tandy 486 machines from the Treasury Sale of the old Mustang
Ranch brothel in Nevada... data intact!!
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Hi.
Do you own the KIM-1 Repository website? I tried sending to
the following email addr given on the page but it bounced...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed" <edsa(a)alphalink.com.au>
To: <dogbert(a)mindless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: KIM audio files
> Hi,
>
> I've "just stumbled over The KIM-1 repository" :)
>
> I don't have a KIM-1 myself though I've had an interest in things
> 6502 having once owned a UK101, C64 etc.
>
> I was particularly interested in your sampled KIM programs.
>
> I've also been experimenting with the computer programs stored
> on audio cassette. My webpage has an encoder/decoder for Kansas
> City Standard formatted tapes. www.alphalink.com.au/~edsa
>
> I noticed your WAV files are 16 bit mono, 11025 samples/sec.
> I've found that using a resolution of 8-bits is more than adequate
> for this type of task. Using 8 bit would cut your filesize by half!
>
> While researching the Kansas City Standard tape format, I read a
> comment suggesting this was also used by KIM. However some
> digging indicated this was not so.
>
> Since completing the KCS program, I felt the techniques used
> could be adapted for just about any format including KIM.
> However I wasn't sure how much demand there might be for a
> KIM version. If you or other KIM users would be interest in
> such a program, let me know.
>
> regards,
> Ed
>
>
Sellam wrote:
.
>> strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large
.
> Are you sure it wasn't a PDP-5?
It definitely said LINC - the questionable part is that I think it
said '-5', but I've never heard of a LINC-5 since then. I would've
remembered if it said PDP-5. I'm beginning to think I must have
gotten the number wrong somehow... In which case, it was still a
pretty uncommon beast to come across, even though I didn't really
get to know it.
Can anyone say how tall a LINC-8 stood? Perhaps the countertop we
had under the console was a post-sale addition. This comes partly
>from staring at the picture of a LINC-8 here:
http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/vs-dec-linc-8.jpg
Thanks, all.
--Steve.
The "this page left blank" was a borrow from military 'technical orders.'
Though quite stodgy about their regs t times, they mostly new that
improvements and innovations would soon render a fixed document obsolete.
So, they kept them in binders, replaced outdated pages with updated ones,
and kept the "blank" pages as place holders (0's, if you like) for expansion
beyond the then current document/section/segment length. Clear as mud?
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Live Wire"
> <livewire(a)netadel.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:58 PM
> To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: DOS 1.0
>
> > infamous "This page intentionally left blank" page. What's up with
> that??
>
> I have a stack of these pages ;)
>
> > I do also memember Wordstar and it's arcane command sequences. Those
> > commands persisted though, through a number of ordinary text editors for
> > programmers & such.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/joe-editor/
>
> This is as close to wordstar and the WS CTRL-K-x command set I have found.
> I used to use wordstar on a tiny portable computer with a 4 line display
> to
> write asm for the amiga 500 and then dump it via the built in modem.
> Joe is my favorite editor today, though I find myself living in vi for the
> most part...
>
One could always do a mean and standard deviation on a group of eBay prices
and get a reasonable measure of what a typical price might be.
Still, you cannot deny that the extreme prices are actual prices that
somebody paid. Just don't expect to get that much every time (or even ever
again).
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:30 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers?
<snip>
There are, and have been, for decades, valid mathematical and actuarial
methods for determining the value of a given object based on several
criteria, including of course supply and demand. Why should ending prices
of eBay auctions all of a sudden supercede that science?
<snip>
Hi,
I just checked the Wicat that I picked up recently. It powers up and gives a flashing block cursor on the screen but no other screen display. Is that normal? The hard drive spins up and recalibrates after about ten seconds but it's not being accessed otherwise. Any sugggestions?
This one came from the Navel Training systems Center in Orlando Florida and it's very clean inside and has a full set of cards including what I think is a 2nd (optional) memory card. There's also a CMI 5619 hard drive in it.
Joe
I saw the recent discussions about these on this list but didn't read them since I'd never seen a Wicat computer and didn't know what one was. Well, today that changed. Can someone give me the run down on a wicat S-150A?
Joe
Located in Memphis, TN - please contact him directly
if interested.
Bill
----- Forwarded message from MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com -----
From: MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:16:00 EST
Subject: VAX 4000-700 computer Center
To: mrbill(a)decvax.org
I have a complete computer center for sale and liquidation.
The server is a Vax 4000/600 which I believe was upgraded to a 700
SCSI Card
128MB
Winchester Flash Cluster 32 GB of storage
Decserver 700
24 VT420 Terminals
2 Rack Cabinets (smoked glass)
1 UDS Modem Rack w/ 14 Modems and 2 Power supplies
2 remote WAN Muxes Datability VCP 1000
Xerox 9-track 6250 tape drive
2 DAT Units
1 600LPM Printer
4 Monarch Computer Center Cabinets (pull down steel doors)
4 metal tape stands
lots of VAX manuals, parts and accessories
Need to sell, deinstall, or give away.
Any ideas?
Michael Dumas
(901)737-7009
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austin, texas
> One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US
>who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to
>anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world.
>Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the
>most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to"
>section. I routinely respond to something I'm interested
>in with "will you not ship to Canada" and the answer is
>almost invariably yes. They simply did the default form.
You'll be happy to know, that I check that I will ship to Canada. I've
only done a few auctions, but those that I have done, I always say yes to
Canada. Not to other places, but that is going to change... I have been
limiting my ship to range only because I am new at auctions and want to
get a feel for it before I have to start deailing with international
shipping. But I've sent enough items to Canada in the past, that I'm
comfortable with what's involved with it.
> The problems with the commercial shippers like UPS is a
>different number, and while it may work well in-country is
>a disaster outside.
This is my major problem with shipping outside the US (minus canada). I
have heard horror stories about UPS and FedEx going to other countries.
So when I am counting on using FedEx for delivery, I worry about what is
going to be involved with getting the package to the person if they
aren't in North America. So my line of thought has been... let me get the
auction concept under my belt... then I'll work on the international
shipping issues.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I'm interested in what you propose, but suspect that Y10K would
be overkill at this point. I'd like to see design discussion
opened up for that... but it may all be moot since it wouldn't
be compatible with V5.4, V5.5, V5.6, V5.7...
... and it is the sort of change which would truly affect
everything in the system, requiring sources to rebuild the
fixes... since no-one but Mentec has rights to the sources,
the product of any such change would be strictly illegal, so
I am wondering how you are proposing to get around that.
Megan
> Is it possible to just put the unzipped files on your web server? I don't
> like to download zips.
Oh, I do. It goes really well with all the HTML markup that turns up here :-)
cheers
Jules
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2003; Steven Nikkel <steven_nikkel(a)ertyu.org> scribbled:
> I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards
> and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes.
> What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively?
First of all, a RANT: Why is it that when a company takes a machine out
of service, the first thing they do is toss the cables. Over the years
I have scrounged a few DECstations only to find that the video cables
were nowhere to be found. I also managed to haul home several VXT2000
workstations but only one video cable amongst all of them. $&^%**&%%
Anyway. It is not so much a breakout box as it is a (rather long) cable
with a molded box on the end of it. The box contains the sockets for the
keyboard and mouse. I put together some info a while back and I will
just paste it to the end of this.
Hope it helps,
Mike Thompson
P.S. I have to wonder, now that you know what you are looking for, if it
might not be worth another search around work.
DECstation 5000 keyboard/mouse cable and related info
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
The DECstation 5000 has a 15 pin (male) D connector on the back for keyboard
and mouse connections. There is a cable that plugs into the 5000 connector
and has a keyboard socket (RJ-11) and a mouse socket (7 pin mini-din) on the
other end. The part number for the cable is 17-02640-01.
A reader of a previous version of this has confirmed from the manual
EK-PELCN-OG for the Dec 3000/300L AXP that the same cable is used on that
series of machines. He also confirmed the following pinout information.
For a keyboard, use a LK201, LK401, or LK402.
For a mouse, use a VSXXX-AA (round hockey puck) or VSXXX-GA (rectangular).
CABLE INFO
The cable pinout (from the DECstation 5000/240 manual) is:
Pin Signal Desc.
1 GND Ground (to keyboard socket)
2 KEY.TX Keyboard transmitted data
3 KEY.RX Keyboard received data
4 +12v Keyboard power
5 GND Ground
6 MSE.RX Mouse received data
7 MSE.TX Mouse transmitted data
8 GND Ground (to mouse socket)
9 GND Ground (to mouse socket)
10 NC
11 NC
12 NC
13 +5v Mouse power
14 -12v Mouse power
15 GND Ground (to mouse socket)
I have also verified the above info with a VOM.
KEYBOARD INFO
As for the keyboard, I had a couple of them open a while back (to clean
out the cookie crumbs) and traced them out somewhat. Looking into the
end of the plug on the cable coming from the keyboard.
|------------|
| o o o o |
| B R G Y |
|___| |___|
|____|
B - Black - Data from keyboard
R - Red - +12v to keyboard
G - Green - Ground
Y - Yellow - Data to keyboard
And looking into the socket on the end of the 17-02640-01 cable:
(also applies to the keyboard socket on a terminal such as a VT420)
|------------|
| o o o o |
| Y G R B |
|___| |___|
|____|
Pin
Y to pin 3 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01
G to pin 1 ...
R to pin 4 ...
B to pin 2 ...
I do not include pin numbers for the keyboard connector because I have
found on-line references to some of this info and in some cases the pin
numbers differ. Your mileage may vary.
MOUSE INFO
As for the mouse, you will find the pinouts below and the signals.
Please note that the pin numbers may not be the official DEC numbers.
Here again, I have seen on-line references to some of this info and
the pin numbers differ.
Looking into the plug coming from the mouse:
5 6 7
o o o
4 o === o 1
o o
3 2
1 - -12v
2 - Data to mouse
3 - Ground
4 - Data from mouse
5 - +5v
6 - nc
7 - nc
And looking at the socket on a machine or end of the 17-02640-01 cable:
7 6 5
o o o
1 o === o 4
o o
2 3
Pin
1 to pin 14 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01
2 to pin 6 ...
3 to pins 8, 9, & 15 ...
4 to pin 7 ...
5 to pin 13 ...
6 nc
7 nc