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by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Personally, I'm likely to be far too lazy to post if it goes "blog".. WTF is Kuro5hin? Slashdot is that linux thingy right? Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

Maxtor drive goes under

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

After the experiences my company has using Dell desktops with Maxtor drives, as well as some personal experiences (below) I wouldn't have either a Dell computer *or* a Maxtor drive anywhere near my personal system. Dells today are the "Acer's" and "Packard Bells" of the current day - cheap, not easily expandable, and quick to wear out. And here, we're replacing Maxtor drives daily. OTOH, the oldest drive in my home network, now revered and used as a zip file storage drive, is a WD 720 "Caviar." That 720MB drive, small by current day standards, survived a house fire last year that melted the case it lived in. The frame, all the drives (3), and even my "ancient" AMD 450Mhz CPU chip survived. The box, however, is slag. I think I'll stay with WD. My current home *custom built) system boasts an AMD 1.1Ghz chip, 1 WD 8Gb system drive, 2 WD 80GB personal account (6 family members) and application drives, and the 1 old WD as a storage drive (aren't Promise cards wonderful?!). Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "J.C.Wren" > <jcwren(a)jcwren.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:51 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Maxtor drive goes under > > All drive manufacturers have particular models that have had > problems. For > instance, you'd have to pay me a damn lot of money to stick anything that > says "Western Digital" in my systems. I've been running Maxtors for > years, > and I recently had a 60GB D740X toast itself. First time ever. OTOH, > I've > had WDs belly-up left and right. I used to be a big fan of IBM drives, > until the DeathStar 60GXP and 75GXP debacle. > > www.storagereview.com is a good place to get comparisons of HDs. > And you > can contribute your experiences to the database. The database covers a > lot > of drives, but was initially started because of the 60GXP and 75GXPs. IBM > was claiming there was no problem, the rest of the world proved them > horribly wrong. > > Personally, I'll stick with Maxtors. I've got 10 Maxtors HDs > currently > spinning here (ranging from 27GB 5400 RPM to 80GB 7200 RPM drives), and > this > D740X is the first bad one. And Maxtor has (or had) a damn good warranty. > There's been some talk about Maxtor and WD going from 3 year warranties to > 1 > year. Something about getting too expensive, since HDs rarely stay in > service 3 years (in the real world. Don't start talking here about how > we're all still running drives from the '70's yada yada yada. We're not a > real cross section of the market). > > --John > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org > > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On > > Behalf Of Cameron Kaiser > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 00:34 > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: OT: Maxtor drive goes under > > > > > > I believe Sellam was cursing at a Maxtor drive a couple > > months back, and > > now I know why. > > > > The 60GB ATA/133 DiamondStar in my Power Mac 7300 (connected > > through a Sonnet > > Tempo Trio) this evening made several hiccup-like noises and > > the computer > > froze up. On the next power cycle, it didn't spin up and just > > sat there and > > clicked. I suspected stiction (well, I prayed it was > > stiction) and tried > > reorienting it and a few gentle taps. On the next power > > cycle, it didn't even > > click anymore and made occasional soft grinding noises, and > > now it doesn't > > even do that. > > > > So, I'm typing this on my Power Book 1400, which I guess will > > be my desktop > > system for the time being. > > > > Any suggestions for ways to get it to spin up, one last time? > > Anyone know > > what happened? I thought it had been a power problem because > > it made some > > sounds like this a few weeks ago and replacing the power > > cable did seem to > > cure it, but I'm mystified as to why it would die so fast. > > The drive was not > > especially hot and it has plenty of ventilation. > > > > I guarantee you my next drive will not be a Maxtor. > > > > Sorry for the OT -- just looking for any desperation > > suggestions before I > > make a new hard drive platter wall clock. > > > > -- > > ----------------------------- personal page: > > http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- > > Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * > > ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu > > -- Son, God's going to use you. Until He does, take this > > pill. -- Mark Lowry -- > >

23 years, 3 months

Selling an old IBM AS400/9404

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

For what its worth, I know how to hack the QSEFCOR password... And I have 3 different MULIC tapes, too.. I'm working on getting more, to provide an archive for other 400-heads like myself.. I own like 7 of the things if you count the couple machines that exist in board state only.. Indeed, on the RISC machines the license is implicitly transferred with the machine, I believe it even says you MUST transfer the license and s/w with the machine... Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

About Electronics Questions

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> With Tony et al as my inspiration, I have recently started to learn > electronics. I've been at it a couple of days, and tonight I just had the > "aha!" for how high-pass and low-pass filters work. I haven't come across > anything yet that has me completely stumped, but if I do, is it appropriate > to ask newbie questions about electronics here? > > I'm supposed to *answer* questions like that, but I just don't know. > Typically, I call electronics conversations as on-topic because they are > directly relevant to operating classic computers. Newbie questions, however, > are more indirect. For another example, we'll help someone with a Windows > program that somehow makes his/her classiccmp go, but I doubt we'll bother > to teach a person in-list how to double-click. Is electronics any different? I'm inclined to say begining electronics questions would be ontopic. Sure it's a bit of a stretch, but I sure wouldn't complain. Unfortunatly I'm starting to doubt I'll ever find time to ask them myself :^( Zane

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Sellam Ismail wrote: > > I really don't like /.'s format. It's too difficult to read through all > > the various messages. > > Yahoo groups or Google groups is probably a better example. I *only* access Yahoo groups through email. I can find time to deal with email, it is non-intrusive. If CLASSICCMP were to move to a web-board, I would leave. I have a hard enough time finding time to keep up with CLASSICCMP, if it were to move to a web-board, I simply wouldn't have time to mess with it. Zane

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> Yahoo groups or Google groups is probably a better example. I hope they're just an example because if you actually move to Yahoo groups then I won't come with. Same is true for www.ezboard.com. Chris J.

23 years, 3 months

OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by bluepearl8＠mac.com

Hi, I have an old macintosh portable I bought in 1995. I have no idea what it is worth but I love it. I am also not very computer literate. I also own a macintosh preforma 6360. I now own an imac. Maryann DeMatthews

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

I like the way that the AtariAge forums work. (http://www.atariage.com) I think that's UBB. I wouldn't have any problem if CC ran like AA. However, if you did a Slashcode-based system I'd probably leave after a while. Chris J.

23 years, 3 months

Utter eBay Madness (was help w/pricing)

by loedman1＠juno.com

Would that be traction or stationary ? Rich Stephenson >Nop, that was just a sidebranch of a quite great >invention which gave us wall size printouts of >Steam Engines! >Gruss >H.

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> What is your opinion? Let's answer this one in-list, please. H*** NO!!!! Simple filtering of email messages takes care of 'inbox clutter', etc. Email is a fast, sleek and lowbandwidth medium. Web-boards, on the otherhand are cumbersome and time consuming. With email I can read CLASSICCMP on anything, with a Web-board, I'd be limited to a modern computer. If this were to happen, I can guarentee a lot of people would leave. Zane

23 years, 3 months

Victor 9000 display and Commodore stuff

by vcf＠siconic.com

This guy has stuff. Contact him if interested. Reply-to: <tingle(a)nb.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:45:47 -0500 From: Bill Tingle <tingle(a)nb.net> To: vcf(a)vintage.org Subject: victor 9000 I have acquired a monitor labeled "Victor 9000". It is model 601, Serial C0061752. I found no reference to it on the Vintage Fextival website. Thus, I speculate that it may be rather rare. It looks to be unused so I assume it works. Can you tell me what interest the Festival (or others) might have in it. I live in Pennsylvania. I thank you in advance for your efforts in this matter and will appreciate either a reply or a forwarding of my letter to someone who might have an interest in the item. I also have some Commodore 64's and 128"s with modems, drives, and other accessories. I assume there is no interest in them. Please reply to tingle(a)nb.net . -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

Re:A Few New Finds Today

by joe_web＠worldonline.fr

I'm interes at the video cards, are they too for 1$? bye ---------- Initial Header -----------

23 years, 3 months

Too many EPROMs

by aw288＠osfn.org

Well, I have too many of the things, pulled off boards for years and years. 2716s thru 27512s, regular and CMOS. Does anybody need any of these CHEAP? I must have several hundred untested pulls. Let me know what you are looking for. What's a good price? How about .25 a pop, or six for a buck, plus shipping. Any interest? I do have some oddballs and older types (1702s, 2708s) too - please ask. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

23 years, 3 months

Prelinger & Computer Chronicles Archives

by cb＠mythtech.net

>"He developed the first operating system (CP/M)." > >I sincerely hope that the web page author meant this sentence to be taken >completely in the context of the previous one. :( Maybe the web designer knows the same guy I do... who just the other day described the RAM chips in a 486 he wanted me to look at as "antique memory". When I looked inside the computer, he was refering to 72 pin SIMMs!!!! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Update: BBC Acorn

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> You lucky devil - I've been looking for a BBC Micro ARM Evaluation Kit for > years! I saw one at a show ("Last ARM Evaluation Kit In Existence") - that > just made me want one even more :-) :-) Any idea how many were released into the wild? I certainly had no luck tracking down any info for mine when I last tried (which was about 8 years ago now, admittedly) They don't seem to have been that common at all... cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

Octane comes from October (WasRichard Crandall just cancelled a payment to you)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Damn, You can't hardly find higher than 93.5 or so here in Colorado... < jealous of those who can get 100 octane at the pump. Sure, my car needs only 87, but if I could get higher octane gas I could drive a car with higher compression ;p Will J _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 3 months

IBM system 3 Re: PDP-12 on eBay (IBM 650 on ebay)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

This thread is a good indication of why we need some sort of register of machines, by serial number, including "mutt" machines made from bits of others. Most classic cars have registrys devoted to them, so why not classic computers? A PDP-8/I one would be interesting, for example. Plus, if the members were willing to provide their e-mail addresses, it would centralize the knowledge of who has, say, extra boards or manuals... Just a thought... Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

23 years, 3 months

Technique for scanning in documentation

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I have a bunch of documentation for my VAX 11/750 and peripherals that I would like to scan in and make available. What technique should I use? I can scan individual pages, but how do I stitch them together to make one big PDF file? alan

23 years, 3 months

A couple of Good Finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At Goodwill I got a book titled BIT BY BIT An Illustrated History of Computers by Stan Augarten for 25 cents and it has lots of great pictures and stories in it. At another thrift I got a TI-99/4 with power supply and nothing else ( It's the 99/4 not the later 99/4A). It's in pretty good shape with a few dents. Looked for the Doc's for it but only found TI-99/4A books.

23 years, 3 months

M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> Should I bet on the galaxy? No keys. > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Ed Chiodo wrote: > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > > keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know of a source for > > > replacement keys?

23 years, 3 months

Progress (PDP-8/L repair)

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

I'm still looking for an M220 board since one of the six won't carry from its LSB to MSB. Probably just needs a 7482 adder; I have one on order. In the meantime I've been looking at the core memory and MB registers which appeared to be totally dead (no bits ever changed on the front panel). (M+) - (M-) = 22.3 volts. This weekend, after quite a bit of signal chasing, I found that I had put the variable delay line in the wrong slot some time ago while cleaning connectors/mice nests! When I replaced it in the correct slot there was still no STROBE output. I then found that the 7400 output buffer was internally shorted to Vcc (probably >from the mis-slotting). Replaced the 7400. Now it cycles. The MB now lights up with the contents of the SR on a DEP, but I can't tell if anything is getting stored, or whether it isn't getting read, since EXAM always shows all-0's to the MB. I can't run any diagnostics yet since I can't store any instructions! Any help/hints greatly appreciated. -Charles

23 years, 3 months

Mac TV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Is this something worth buying? If you are a Mac collector, sure, since its a cool little peice of Apple history... if you want it as an investment, not unless you get it nearly free. The prices for them have been steadily falling on eBay, so it is unlikely that you will be able to purchase one and be able to resell it at a high enough price to make it worth your time and effort. But, if you happen to come across them in an auction or scrap yard or otherwise, and can snag one for $10 like John did... then grab it. I think there are a few people on this list alone that might be willing to give you $25 to $50 for one, and you can probably get closer to $100 on eBay still. If it is totally complete, manuals, software, remote, everything, and is in good cosmetic condition, and everything works properly, then you might just might be able to snag upwards of $250 on eBay. Just remember, this is eBay... that means one will sell today for $250 and tomorrow for $35. Outside of eBay, I have not noticed Mac collectors willing to pay more than $100 for a complete, working system. The MacTV is not a terribly rare item (I think Apple sold something in the range of 10,000 units... and there is usually at least one on eBay in a given month) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Fw: NeXT archives/museum?

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I actually got a bunch of offers to take the documents (uh, now I have to remember which box they are in :-( Thanks a bunch. Oh, and I guess I need to figure out which offer that I am actually going to take ... alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Perry" <alanp(a)snowmoose.com> To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: NeXT archives/museum? > > Is there a NeXT archive or museum anywhere? I have a few documents that > are historically interesting (one is a receipt for the very last > magneto-optical cartridges that Canon had in stock) and would like them > to go to a suitable home, if there is such a place. > > alan > > >

23 years, 3 months

Semi OT: Apple CD-ROM Driver 5.3.1

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Anyone out there have the Apple CD-ROM Driver 5.3.1 that they might >be willing to email my way? I just recently picked up a Toshiba XM- >520 SCSI CD-ROM drive in hopes of being able to use it with both my >Apple IIGS and my Performa 405. I've been told that the GS (equipped >as it is with a RAMFast SCSI Card) should handle it fine; but since >the Performa is running System 7.5, I need the Apple CD-ROM Driver >5.3.1 from System 7.6 to be able to use non-Apple CD-ROM drives. http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/disk/Apple_CD-ROM_D-5.3.1.sit.hqx and http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/disk/Mac_CD-ROM_Setup_5.3.2.sit for the ISO 9660, audio and High Sierra additions -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Update: BBC Acorn

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 10:53, Jules Richardson wrote: > > ARM Evaluation Kit - yep - that's the one. I do have various discs and > > manuals for it, too. I used to love the "twin" editor - several open files > > at one, and could cut and paste between them. Ahead of it's time... > > yeah, that's it. Without any discs or being able to find anyone who knew > anything about it I'm afraid mine got put in storage. I believe I've got the > original polystyrene packaging for it, but no discs or outer box or anything > (go figure) I can copy the six disks for you, but as I mentioned in previous post, my Disc 1 has a corrupt track. > I've got some other BBC add-on in the same style housing as the ARM unit, but > can't remember what it is now. It wasn't the teletext unit unfortunately, as > that could have been interesting to play about with. Most of the Acorn add-ons came in the same housing. All the Second Processors (6502, Z80, 32016) and the Universal Second Processor box (so you could use Master Series upgrades like a Turbo, Master 512 80186 CoPro, or the Scientific), Teletext Adaptor, Prestel Adaptor, IEEE Interface, and probably others. > > They were expensive, but much more expandable than the spectrum. At one > > point I had about six of them in my bedroom on an econet network, had > > several on modems running a multi-user BBS. > > excellent :-) > I never got into the networking side of things with them (I've got all the > fileserver/network for the RM Link machines which I believe were the schools > alternative to having BBCs in the UK) I had a three-station Econet in the house in 1984 or 1985, and it eventually grew to include a Master 128, a Compact, and a Filestore. > I seem to remember this machine is way more complex than the innards of an XT > though, with about 1.5x the board space and a lot of ULA chips on board. > > I'm sure Ferranti produced much better machines than glorified IBM clones > though, if that's what this is :-) :-) In my earlier reply, I was thinking of rather older Ferranti computers. At least a decade older, maybe two... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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