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by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/16/2003 2:00:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com writes: << 2GB and 4GB drives started appearing... To this day I refuse to touch Kalok drives, not that there's many of them left. And if this bloody Seagate 52520 in my webrouter clunk-clicks once more it's getting swapped out! $DEITY, this thing is almost as loud as the Kalok was when it failed. Speaking of which, has anyone got a Kalok drive in their collection? Dead or alive? >> Ive got one. A 20meg one I think and it worked when it was put away. very noisy though. Looks cheap.

23 years, 3 months

Macro Assembler, Xenix, 8086/8088 Primer, Mac Repair, and early version of DOS

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

Macro Assembler, Xenix, 8086/8088 Primer, Mac Repair, and early version of DOS To those of you who have sent email expressing interest in 1 or more of the above, I have not forgotten - I have not had time to respond, yet - hope to shortly

23 years, 3 months

A couple of Good Finds Today

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 18:44, Keys wrote: > At Goodwill I got a book titled BIT BY BIT An Illustrated History of > Computers by Stan Augarten for 25 cents and it has lots of great pictures > and stories in it. That's a good book. I got my copy for 50 pence several years ago. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 22:43, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote: > > With email I can read CLASSICCMP on anything, with a Web-board, I'd be > > limited to a modern computer. > > Surely anything that can run a mail client can run lynx... Not necessarily. My older Acorn machines can read and send mail but there's no web browser that will run on them. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that's also true of some other older systems that people here might use. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

Mac TV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Just out of interest, can a Mac TV output PAL video and operate off 230V >(UK >mains voltage)? I'd love to get one (and get it to do something useful), >but >they don't seem to have appeared in the UK market yet. >OTOH, I *do* have a VCR that can operate as an NTSC->PAL converter... I can't say for 100% sure, but I would say that most likely, yes, it will work. Most Mac's could handle dual power IIRC (either auto detecting, or via a switch on the power supply), and Apple's other TV Tuner cards can input NTSC, PAL, and SECAM, you just select which one you want in a preference for the TV Viewer application. So I would guess the MacTV will do it as well. You will need a connector to convert from a screw on F connector, to a PAL connector, but that should be easy to come by. But, a note, you ask can it OUTPUT PAL, if you really mean output, like use the tuner in the MacTV, and run it to a VCR or another TV, then the answer may be no, as I don't think the MacTV output anything. You connected the antenna or cable to the Mac, and watched TV directly on the Mac screen. You could toggle between TV viewing or Mac (and IIRC, watch TV in a 1/4 size screen on the Mac desktop as well). But all viewing was done directly on the Mac itself. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Maxtor drive goes under

by bones＠northrock.bm

It's always fascinated me how people have such strong opinions of one particular drive manufacturer over another. Commonly one will say that they have a certain make of drive and it's never failed them and they've tried this other one and they're dying left and right, etc. ad nauseum. I come at this issue from the perspective of a field service engineer and subsequently independant consultant. The fact is that, particularly with IDE drives, no matter the manufacturer, it's purely the luck of the draw whether one is blessed with a good production run. I get the feeling that, to cut costs, most manufacturers have the QC people working a couple of days a week, and even then they're not exactly the best paid position in the sweatshop. The same goes for cars - you just find the one you're psychologically comfortable with. No bearing on statistical reality, but to the buyer that manufacturer's product will always be superior, and faults will be more tolerable than those of the manufacturer who's product is "in the doghouse" for whatever reason. As for Dell going the way of PacBell, etc., well I can only say we've got what we asked for. We wanted cheap computing, we got cheap computing. If they raised their standards and correspondingly their prices, we'd run like heck to the next guy who offered their system for a couple of quid less. If you want a rock-solid system with total manufacturer's support and guaranteed uptime and all that jazz, you'd have to shell out over $50,000 plus support contracts, etc. Just like in the old days of some of the larger systems we discuss on this forum. Just my $12.34 (Like everything else here in Bermuda, my opinion has to be shipped here and customs duty paid <grin>). With apologies for the rant, Dennis (not Miller :-)

23 years, 3 months

IBM 5322

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Here, in the future, use the IBM US Sales Manual: http://www2.ibmlink.ibm.com/cgi-bin/master?xh=6IoY5YcEq*i*pR1USenGnN9332&re… Yes, its a NASTY looking address, but using that took me .23 seconds to find out the 5322 is a Datamaster CPU.. but then I scrolled down and the beast had been ID'ed. Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

PDP-11/60 available for pickup in Houston

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I have a PDP 11/60 available in Houston. It is untested and in an unknown state. There are just the two main components out of the cabinet with cards (I don't know what all cards are in there) and the two power supply units. Also have a front panel control. I'm being force to get rid of these as soon as possible. If nobody wants them I'll have to take it to the scrapper. Hopefully there is someone out there that can take these and make good use of them. ----- "If you want to see it, see into it directly; but when you stop to think about it, it is altogether missed." "When the mind is free of any thought or judgement, then and only then can we know things as they are." David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

23 years, 3 months

OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> > I have a 200Mhz 6400 tower. Pretty nice machine, > except that it lacks > > ethernet. I've got it running MacOS 8.0, and until > recently, I also had BeOS > > on it. Runs both really well. Has a built in > subwoofer for incredibly rich > > sound. My main complaint: Other than adding RAM or > PCI cards, upgrades are > > nearly impossible with that impenetrable case. There was a recent article in MacAddict that a model of PCI Ethernet Cards from D-Link has MacOS 9/X drivers. I've bought several and they work great! And they are 10/100... Model number is DFE-530TX+, I've bought them for under $20.00US Give it a go! Regards, Al Hartman (Macintosh Emulation List Host) http://www.topica.com/lists/MacEmuList Enlightenment means taking full responsibility for your life. - William Blake __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

I have to agree with most of what I've read here. Though I'm very new to your list, I'd really much rather it stay an e-mail list. To do otherwise, puts me in mind of the the bulky and cantankerous mail groups in MSN (Hotmail) or Yahoo - lotsa spash and excess drivel, but much less bang for your buck. Further, you'd lose the spontenaiety. For folk who have trouble picking out the thread they want to follow in the lists, they can always configure their e-mail clients with topic folders (yeah, even older e-mail clients like Eudora or Juno; and for those even older, echo/netmail offline readers!). That puts the onus back on the participant, and not on an often overworked administrator or moderator. As an ex-BBS sysop (1.387.57, 1991-1997), that's a position I can well apreciate. Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Paul > Thompson <thompson(a)new.rr.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:39 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog? > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote: > > > Email is a fast, sleek and lowbandwidth medium. Web-boards, on the > > otherhand are cumbersome and time consuming. With email I can read > > CLASSICCMP on anything, with a Web-board, I'd be limited to a modern > > computer. If this were to happen, I can guarentee a lot of people would > > leave. > > > -- >

23 years, 3 months

Mac TV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>So I should offer the guy something like 10 bucks for it and then offer it >to the list for like 30 or, that way I can make some money to send to VISA >and someone who loves Macs will be happy and it won't get junked, in other >words. Please don't flame me for wanting to profit, but I'm seriously broke >and need to pay Chris Kennedy/Visa/my parents/go to college/get gas/fix my >power steering/pay J. Darren Petersen/etc. I think a $20 profit is fair, as >I already spent time finding it, gas getting there, and would spend money >obtaining it as well. Thoughts? Yes... if you can snag it for $10, and small profit is worth you time, then by all means, do it. And if it works and/or is relatively complete, let me know... I'll buy it >from you. My overall point before wasn't that you should NOT buy one, just that you should not pay a high price expecting that you will get an even higher price for it later... but if you can get it cheap (like $10), you can be assured you will get some kind of profit on it. There is nothing wrong with making a profit on things... I just didn't want you to get burned thinking that the MacTV was going to get Lisa 1 like prices, and so you ran out and paid $100 for one expecting to resell it for $1,000. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Still no action (PDP-8/L repair)

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:33:17 -0600, you wrote: >><HOPE> Shouldn't be too hard to find </HOPE> >>since it's doing nothing. If it had flaky bits or words or pages, >>different story, but absolutely dead can only be a few things. > >Ya, like a broken core sense wire! Fortunately that is not the case. All 64 X, 64 Y, sense and inhibit lines have the correct resistance. I found fairly quickly that B MEM ENABLE was leaving its source but not getting to the core amps. I couldn't find the presumably broken wire on the backplane so I ran a jumper but still no function. (It's normally high all the time, so a disconnected TTL input is usually 1). this is somewhat depressing that the backplane may have reached end-of-life, if bad wirewraps are starting to show up. It is over thirty years old... Now READ and WRITE are pulsing to the selectors. Unfortunately I don't have a current probe to check out the R/W currents and waveforms. Guess I could put a .1 ohm resistor in the line which would give a 32 mv signal on the 320 ma pulse. -Charles

23 years, 3 months

DEC PDT-11/150

by tim.myers＠protasis.co.uk

I'm having to get rid of my collection due to losing the space it's housed in. The PDP-11/73s have already gone on Ebay, as has the Transputer kit. Next to go is my PDT11/150, you can find it here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=23016 11053&rd=1. I never got round to playing with this machine, and I know very little about it, I hope someone can give it a good home. Tim.

23 years, 3 months

Need to get hold of Jim Austin

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I'd be interested in hearing about HP 1000 Lab Automation systems as well, since my HP-1000E (2113E) was originally part of of.. 3353E I believe. Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 3 months

Need to get hold of Jim Austin

by tim.myers＠protasis.co.uk

Could Jim Austin please drop me a line re: HP 1000 Lab Automation Systems. Tim.

23 years, 3 months

Octane comes from October (WasRichard Crandall just cancelled a payment to you)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hans, Likely just another case of Germans doing something better (IMHO), much like DIN versus SAE horsepower. I did know about the R+M/2 method for American gas, and you can get 100 octane here, just not easily in my state.. In California, some 76 stations sell 100 octane. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 3 months

Utter eBay Madness (was help w/pricing)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

>Would that be traction or stationary ? > Rich Stephenson Don't leave out steam engines as in steam locomotives, railroad equipment... Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 3 months

SV: IBM system 3 Re: PDP-12 on eBay (IBM 650 on ebay)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I must be due for finding something damned cool then, since I gave my -2065 to Eric as I couldn't rescue it... No way would I let that hit the dumpster! Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> What is your opinion? Let's answer this one in-list, please. on the car front, I go through www.triumphstag.net which was initially set up as a web interface to the mailing list, but has slowly evolved into something more like what you describe for classiccmp. sounds like that's the sort of thing you'd need as the mailing list is still the primary means of communication but the website adds the registry, 'for sale' list and other odds and ends. The web interface to the mail gateway does have the odd problem now and then, with some posts occasionally turning up twice - drop Dave (who runs the site) an email as he should be able to shed some more light as to why! I think I'd still use the classiccmp mailing list for emails, but it'd be nice to have somewhere to store information (as mentioned in another post to this list) and be able to search archives etc. by the way, I'm never seen all the HTML and base64 junk on the Stag list that seems to come through to classiccmp - it must be filtered out somehow in which case it'd seem sensible to look into how to do that for this list! :-) (and if you could filter out my yahoo automatically-added .sig that's be good too ;-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Please see my point-by-point comments below... Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of JP Hindin > <jplist(a)kiwigeek.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:08 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog? > > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Right away, I see several benefits: > > - Members can participate from any computer with a web browser. Even > lynx. > And right now members can use any eMail client, even elm or > mutt... They're just as common, right? > [Tillman, Edward] Web browsers are slower, crankier, and more of a hassle than any email client, including the older ones... > > - Anonymity and privacy can be more well-respected. The 'sender' of a > > post is your username, not your email address. A system can be > It surely can't be hard to have the mailing list archival software munge > eMail addresses... It seems to be doing it now okay. Where's the problem? > [Tillman, Edward] If the person really wants that kind of privacy, why is he/she here? From my admittedly short-lived perspective, this list is a rather comfortable coming-together of professionals and hobbyists, experts and laymen who like what they do, and want to share their information and resources openly. Putting it all behind the proverbial firewall would most assuredly kill it. > > - There's no worry about HTML, attachments, wierd character sets, > spam, > > virii, or cctech moderation delay. > You can't attach eMails to the list can you? (How do you attach a worm > therefore?). As for HTML and character sets, its a small inconvenience > honestly - not that many posters use it, after all. > [Tillman, Edward] Moderation delay *can* be a good thing. What's the issue? > > - Your inbox receives less clutter. You spend less bandwidth on mail. > Instead you spend it on all the extra HTML markup on web page posts? > [Tillman, Edward] If folks want less clutter in their inboxes, they can darned well configure their email clients with topic folders (rules...), as I do both at home and at work. That way, the list downloads directly to its folder, leaves my inboxes clean, and is in a tight package when I'm ready to read it... Almost all email clients, regardless of age, allow that. > > - It scales well as more members join and start posting. > [Tillman, Edward] As an email list, directly configured into user defined topic folders, this isn't even an issue. > With a fine MTA (qmail anyone?) you can do alright, but I agree, a slick > mod_perl style web interface probably scales "better". > However, as my friend always used to say, when we are so logged with > traffic that we have scaling issues - well that will be a good day indeed > to know we are that popular, and dealing with it will be a joy. > (He was a Buddhist, what can I say) > [Tillman, Edward] Buddist, huh? Maybe that's why all this is working so well...? (snickers!, smiles!) > > - Features you want can be added in code, quickly. The current setup > is > > great for turn-key mailing lists and such, but it is tough to > extend. > > What kind of extra features? > [Tillman, Edward] Ditto... (?) > This is just my two cents; I would rather not move to such a style of > list. I think classiccmp is wonderful the way it is. > Feel free to pick bones out of my retort. > [Tillman, Edward] Hehehe... I kow how you feel. Sysops, Admins and Mods always wanna experiment, and sometimes, we even do it right. I discovered a long time ago, to my chagrin when I lost over 100 users on a BBS: If you have a good thing, don't mess with it. > JP >

23 years, 3 months

Technique for scanning in documentation

by tim＠tim-mann.org

> Acrobat 4 can import up to 50 files at once. So if you have > scanned to 50 individual TIFFs you can import them all in > one go (it's not that speedy though!). I expect that > Acrobat 5 can also import, but I could never find the > right menu ! What it can do (which 4 and earlier could not) > is spit out a PDF file as individual G4 compressed TIFFs. G4 compression is pretty poor. I really like DjVu format instead of PDF. It uses much better compression technology (JBIG2 for bitonal black/white and fractal compression for color images) and gives better legibility as well. Check out the free, open source tools for creating and viewing it at http://djvu.sourceforge.net/, and the free-beer Windows and Mac viewers at www.djvu.com. For DjVu examples, see some of the newer documents on my TRS-80 page, http://www.tim-mann.org/misosys.html I think Acrobat 5 may also have JBIG2 compression, though earlier versions didn't, so if you have that, you may do about as well as DjVu for bitonal (aka "line art") scans. People trying to view them will need an up-to-date version of the Acrobat reader too, of course. -- Tim Mann tim(a)tim-mann.org http://www.tim-mann.org/

23 years, 3 months

Mac TV

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

So I should offer the guy something like 10 bucks for it and then offer it to the list for like 30 or, that way I can make some money to send to VISA and someone who loves Macs will be happy and it won't get junked, in other words. Please don't flame me for wanting to profit, but I'm seriously broke and need to pay Chris Kennedy/Visa/my parents/go to college/get gas/fix my power steering/pay J. Darren Petersen/etc. I think a $20 profit is fair, as I already spent time finding it, gas getting there, and would spend money obtaining it as well. Thoughts? Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

23 years, 3 months

Web-based MailList: No.

by jpl15＠panix.com

I personally would hate/loathe/despise any web-based Krep, since I (and a very small minority of others) read my mail in ASCII using Pine under a Unix Shell account, and I ain't plannin' on a-changin' it. Although there is something to be said of the Wikiwiki scenario... it seems to bridge the User Interface gap well. Of course I can't speak as to it's Admin or Secure aspects... Cheers 7-Bit John

23 years, 3 months

M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Wanna grab a shuttle pod and take a spin? I'm sure we can find an ol' 486/33 computer to run the thing... Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Eric > Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:20 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Cc: 3sdiarftt02(a)sneakemail.com > Subject: Re: RE: M100 Keys Sought > > >> Should I bet on the galaxy? > > > > No keys. > > Are you certain? It has on occasion taken me 15 minutes to find keys > just around my house. I'd expect that verifying that the M100 galaxy > has no keys would take one heck of a long time. > > > >

23 years, 3 months

M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Dwight K. > Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:33 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: M100 Keys Sought > > >From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > > > >> > Is that the Samsung M100 phone? > >> > Or the Lotus Elan M100? > >> > (I doubt that you have the M100 spiral galaxy for sale) > > > >On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Scarletdown wrote: > >> I'll sell you the Large Magellanic Cloud for $50,000, and throw in > >> the Small Magellanic Cloud as a bonus. :) > > > >Sorry. > >Much as I'd love to add it to my collection, I'm having MAJOR > >problems with storage space - I had to hand over most of my > >collection to Sellam, just due to lack adequate space. > >(space is NOT expanding) > > > > > > Hi > EPA might complain. Super nova 1997A has been spewing > out a lot of radio active waste. Since this is part of > it, shipping may also be an issue. > Dwight > [Tillman, Edward] In that case, maybe a small lead-lined box? or ball? Wonder what kind of safety features came with Orion's Belt? After all -- that big ol' galaxy in that itty-bitty ball... Cheers!

23 years, 3 months

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