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by jss＠subatomix.com

Please reply to the original author, not me. ---------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Ken Seefried <ken(a)seefried.com> Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 12:08:18 PM Subject: Small VME Backplanes? Does anyone know of a source for inexpesive, small VMEBus backplanes? I'm looking for something 1, 2, 3 or 4 slots, preferably 6U, so that I can put VMEBus cards in a case smaller than a 19" rackmount. Cardcage would be optional. Ken ---------- End forwarded message ---------- -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 2 months

Any Cromemco USERS?

by labomb＠rochester.rr.com

Bill, >Something about the 16FDC doesn't play nice with the IMSAI front panel. >You can't deposit or examine memory with it on the bus. Even with the >schematics, I don't see what the problem is. Do you know a solution by >any chance? Assuming that you have verified that the front panel works correctly by removing the 16FDC (and only the 16FDC), then the first thing that I would check is to see if the 16FDC is grounding pin 20 (UNPROT) of the s-100 bus. If it is, a quick glance at the Imsai panel schematic will show that all of the flip-flops and monostable multivibrators associated with the Examine and Deposit functions will be disabled. The 'J' input of the flip-flops need to be high, and the 'CLR' pin on the mono-multis need to be high in order for the these specific panel functions to work. Best regards, Scott

23 years, 2 months

VAX VMS Question

by crl＠rti.org

Thanks for the info! that is basically what I was thinking, but I hadn't forced the port speed and duplex yet. I turned some debugging features on and see exactly what you were talking about ! Thanks Carl -----Original Message----- From: Fred N. van Kempen [mailto:Fred.van.Kempen@microwalt.nl] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:47 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Lindahl, Carl Subject: RE: VAX VMS Question Yes. On the 2950, set the port to 10Mbps, half-duplex, no flow control, no spanning tree: int fastethernet 0/xxx speed 10 duplex half flow none spanning-tree portfast no shutdown or somesuch. The Cisco ASIC's hate the VAX ethernet port, same here on my 4000. Basically, the ether connection is bouncing between between various modes, making it slow and such. --fred

23 years, 2 months

Dear Santa, I would like a VAX

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Ade et al, Gotta cast another vote for the 4000 VLC. If you have room for a laptop and an external CD, you probably have room for this VAX. And if you use it to learn VMS, you can (when you can get an 8800, or whatever) charge on ahead to a very asymmetric VAXCluster. Or use it to NetBoot the 8800, etc. I know a guy in Houston, TX who at last count had a "stack" of those with 24M (max) RAM and hard drives with OVMS installed, and for which he's trying to find good homes. I have not mentioned to him the possibility of transatlantic shipping, but let me know if you are interested. And, if you have a lot more money available: (just came up on comp.sys.dec.micro) http://www.aub.nl/vaxsales/ a 3100-85 for 600 (money units not specified) a 3100-80 for 500 both for 1000. Each includes 3 VT510+keyboard. One includes a CD. - Mark

23 years, 2 months

Ressurecting Mac Plus

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Go to Apple's website and dig down in the downloads section - they've got >(or did have last year) all versions of MacOS from v1 up to 7.5. The >software license normally says that if you own a Mac you can download the >OS. If they haven't got older versions any more I've got 'em all here :) Last I checked, they removed all except for System 6.0.8 and System 7.5.3. The do have updaters for most of the systems, but they are just updates that need the original system to run. Once upon a time their FTP site did have a number of the pre System 7 versions (not all, but a handful of assorted versions). But I don't think they have ever had full installs of anything but System 7.5.3 in the 7.x and up range (and 7.5.3 should REALLY be updated to 7.5.5 as soon as it is installed... .3 has a ton of bugs in it that are fixed in .5). System 7 is when they went to a paid OS model, so they didn't give the stuff away. 6 and under their policy was you should go to your local Apple dealer with blank disks and they will give you the latest OS version (at least that is what they told me when I asked once how to get an update to 6.x) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 2 months

Bernoulli Dual 20Z

by kth＠srv.net

I found a Bernoulli Dual 20Z drive in a thrift shop. Does anyone know anything about it? It has a SCSI interface on it, but I don't even know what capacity of disks it can handle, and where can I find software to drive it. They has some "90" disks there too, which do fit into the drive, but I'd like more info on it than that.

23 years, 2 months

A plea to classiccmpers

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Oh, and why did you include the entire message you're comemnting on here, > rather than the one or 2 lines that were relevant? And why do you top-post? > > -tony I've come to the realization that top-posting is yet another sin that Microsoft needs to answer for! In MS LookOut, it expects you to top-post to replies (I suspect this is yet another MS ploy to waste disk space[1] as I've also observed that people using MS LookOut tend to not know how to trim messages[2]). Zane [1] Just how much Stock does Microsoft and it's employee's have in companies that make Hard Drives? This is the only logical explaination for MS being such a waste of disk space. [2] Please note these observations are not targeted at anyone on this list, as I've made the observations elsewhere.

23 years, 2 months

TF86/TK86

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

John, > I have a lead here on a TF86-BX that I'd like to take up > but while the seller says it is indeed a TF86 (DSSI), the > drive has labels on it that say TK86. > My question is: are these in fact the same thing? > I can't recall hearing of a TQK8x controller, in support > of his claim. Yes, this is a DSSI drive. There is a SCSI version of it, the TZ86, which basically includes the SCSI-to-DSSI board. I have several TF85's of both types... very nice drives. The 86's and 87's are higher capacity- I believe *but am unsure* that the 87 is SCSI-only. --f

23 years, 2 months

BBC Micro - assemblers - info needed

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 23, 8:42, Philip Pemberton wrote: > > Silly question; why don't you use the assembler built into BBC Micro > BASIC? I > > used this for years for many serious programs and never had a problem... > (I > > should be able to remember how to use it still!) > Because I hate having to write a BASIC backend to get the assembler to run, > then there's code relocation issues if I want to make Paged ROM images... > For those things, an assembler is much easier. The "backend" part is hardly onerous, and the ability to do all sorts of tricks makes it a pretty good macroassembler. As for relocation, that's why you use both P% (program counter) and O% (where the code will be assembled). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 2 months

Free to a good home - will be skipped next week.

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Tim Myers <tim.myers(a)sunplan.com> wrote: > IBM PS/2 model 35SX - HDD of some description, 1920Kb RAM. Also with > Proprinter XL, and IBM Monitor (heavy burnin). > > This is going in the skip next week, if anyone wants to rescue it from > Ellesmere Port (UK) then let me know and I'll rescue it. Will you ship it across the pond? MS

23 years, 2 months

Heathkit H-11A (LSI-11) on eBay

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Be interesting to see what happens with this: Heathkit H-11A (DEC LSI-11) with no peripherals but lots of manuals and some software on paper tape and 8" floppy. Hey, the Buy It Now price is a very reasonable US$6,900! ;^) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2302242389&category=4193 Do I need to point out that if I had it, I wouldn't sell it? No connection to the seller, et cetera... --Steve.

23 years, 2 months

What's better than canned air?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 21, 13:01, chris wrote: > The tank is good to about 200 PSI, and comes with a regulator assembly > and hose. The compressor is good to 250 PSI so it fills it nicely. > > I added a coiled hose and blow gun attachment, and the system works quite > well. The compressor is a tad loud, so sometimes I walk away and close my > office door when it is filling (the tank does NOT have a blow off valve, > so I can't walk away for too long or I risk overfilling, so mostly I just > go deaf when it fills). I was wondering about excess pressure the other day. I thought about a pressure switch to shut off the motor, but they seem to be quite expensive. Or am I just looking in the wrong places? Does anyone know where I could get a pressure switch suitable for about 120 psi, cheaply? > The only things I don't like are it doesn't last very long. So I find I > have to refill more often than I would like. Part of the rapid loss of > air is because one of my connections isn't air tight, so if I leave the > tank turned on, it slowly bleeds itself (it will go empty over night), Is it a screw fitting? Take it apart and wind 4"-6" of PTFE tape round it the male fitting. You can get the tape from any place that sells air accessories or vacuum pumps, or most plumbers suppliers. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 2 months

Bulk erasing disk packs

by GOOI＠oce.nl

!! RED ALERT !! If you do not have the drive hardware (and computer), you *cannot* erase the disk packs without rendering them worthless! Bulk erase will destroy the data *AND* the servo tracks! If you do bulk erase the disk packs, you can safely throw them away because most of us (all?) do not have the equipment to rewrite the servo track information. BTW. I would like an other RM03 disk pack. I have got only a few of those. I hope to spin up my RM03 in a few months; spare fuses are standing by ... - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Myers [mailto:tim.myers@sunplan.com] > Sent: donderdag 23 januari 2003 12:17 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Bulk erasing disk packs > > > I've managed to get a haul of DEC disk packs, the condition on getting > them out is that I erase them (no drive hardware available > unfortunately). Some kind of bulk eraser required, I feel, but can I > make one / get hold of one easily? > > The haul is this: > 21 x DEC RL02K-DC > 10 x DEC RL01K-DC > 3 x DEC RM03-P - I believe these are new and unused. > > 30 x HP 13356 - These 'belong' to the HP 1000 systems that are being > moved out this weekend. > > Tim.

23 years, 2 months

BBC Micro - assemblers - info needed

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi all, I've just downloaded three assemblers from the ROM archive at http://bbc.nvg.org . Catch is, none of them include manuals. I've got copies of: VASM65 v2.0E by Vida Rebus ASM 1.10 by SYSTEM (claims to be the "ASM 6502 Macro assembler V1.10", "Copyright (C) 1984 SYSTEM"). Contains text strings like "Press play", so may be a tape->ROM conversion. ROMAS 3.02 by TBK Associates (full copyright string = "ROMAS 3.02 (C)1985 TBK Associates - S.C." Has anyone here got any documentation for these assemblers? I'd like to get at least one of them to assemble *something*. Perhaps a "Hello World" program? Also, Vasm outputs Intel Hex files from what I can gather - does anyone here have an Intel Hex -> Binary converter for the BBC Micro? Finally, does anyone know how some discs were formatted so they were compatible with 40-track and 80-track disc drives? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

23 years, 2 months

VAX VMS Question

by crl＠rti.org

Does anyone have a VAX running VMS connected via ethernet to a Cisco 2950 series switch? I have had the VAX connected to a 2900XL series switch for a year with no problem, but in doing upgrades, moving it to the 2950 has caused major character delays, and other problems between the VAX and clients connecting to it. Everything else connected to the switch is working fine. Thanks Carl Lindahl ITS NOC ============== RTI International Ragland Building P.O. Box 12194 RTP, NC 27709 Phone - 919-541-5872 Fax - 919-541-7333

23 years, 2 months

OT (plug) reply: RE: A plea to classiccmpers

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

If you want the flexibility of a "hotmail" ((I do, and I have it), but don't want all the animated ads, get a bundle pack like Norton Internet Security. I don't work for 'em, and I've only recently started using the package, but it has a WONDERFUL ad-ware blocker that leaves your viewed web page intact, while simply screening the ad location (turning it black or transparent). I paid $29.95 for my copy, including a 1-year subscription to NAV's virus updates, on the website: NextAisle. Also, there's a couple of freebie packages available on C|Net's Download.com: "Adware," whick you can use to clean your system and registry of cached ad files, and "Pop-up Stopper," which does exactly what it says it does. Both occationally leave you with WIndows Message Service error messages (Of course! Your Adware thinks its broken if it can't cover your screen with its ad!), but these are background, and much easier to dump than the ads themselves. Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Daniel > Hicks" <danielrhicks(a)hotmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:14 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: A plea to classiccmpers > > > There's nothing wrong with Hotmail. And, of course, I realize this > mailing > > > > Personally, I prefer not to conduct my correspondence thru a barrage > of > > animated adverts and relentless popups and other Crapola - YMMV > >

23 years, 2 months

Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by loedman1＠juno.com

"John Willis" <jwillis(a)arielusa.com> wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C1E2.BE18F359 >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="utf-8" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 >> >> QXdlc29tZS4gSSBkb24ndCBoYXZlIHRoZSBkcml2ZSB5ZXQsIGJ1dCBpdCBzZWVtcyB0byBtZ SB0 >> byBiZSB0aGUgYmVzdA0Kb3B0aW9uIGZvciBnZXR0aW5nIEJTRCBsb2FkZWQgb24gbXkgVkFYI DEx >> Lzc1MC4NCiANCkFwb2xvZ2llcyBpZiB0aGlzIGlzIGNvbWluZyB0aHJvdWdoIGFzIE1JTUUuI E1p >> Y3JvJGhhZnQgb3V0bG9vayB3ZWINCmFjY2VzcyB3b24ndCBsZXQgbWUgc2V0IA0KcGxhaW4gd GV4 >> dC4NCiANClRoYW5rcyBhZ2FpbiwNCkpvaG4gVy4NCg0KCS0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZ S0t >> LS0tIA0KCUZyb206IE1pY2hhZWwgU29rb2xvdiANCglTZW50OiBUdWUgMS8yMS8yMDAzIDExO jQx >> IFBNIA0KCVRvOiBjY3RhbGtAY2xhc3NpY2NtcC5vcmcgDQoJQ2M6IA0KCVN1YmplY3Q6IFJlO iBR > >[...] >> [rest of garbage stripped] >Would you mind writing in ASCII so that people using Classic Computers can read >it? I have no idea what you've wrote as I can't read it. MS I second that request Rich

23 years, 2 months

A way to erase OTP components?

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Hello everybody, this is something I've been wondering about for some time now. Perhaps here is the place to ask, since it's about one of the "inner secrets of silicon": Tony Duell wrote: > The 8751 is the EPROM version of the 8051 microcontroller. It's otherwise > identical to it. > > If it's in a ceramic package with a quartz window, then you can erase it > like any other EPROM and reprogram it. If it's in the plastic package, > then it's the OTP version. If in fact the same die was used in both components, then it's only the plastic (which is impenetrable to the commonly-used ultra-violet light) that prevents the OTP variant from being erased and reprogrammed. However, there are kinds of radiation similar to light which *will* penetrate the plastic housing...you see where this goes? Will the memory be erased when you, say, X-ray the OTP component, will it stay unaffected, or is the thing just going to die? (just outta curiosity) Arno Kletzander -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f?r 1 ct/ Min. surfen!

23 years, 2 months

Apologies for garbage e-mails

by jwillis＠dahmer.vistech.net

All: Many apologies for the series of garbage/MIME-encoded e-mails. I'm going to be using this account from now on, as it supports plain text. Again, very sorry. John Willis

23 years, 2 months

//new// Apple I?

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Look at: http://www.emulation.net/apple1/ There is an HTML apple 1 manual there, complete with schematics.

23 years, 2 months

OT: Super Magnets - Don't try this at home!

by bill＠timeguy.com

I wonder if a bunch of those big-ass permanent magnets from hard drives would... Hmm... ;-) --- http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/014/science/Zap_+.shtml "Just by pointing his super-magnets at the right spots on your head, Dr. Alvaro Pascual-Leone can make you go momentarily mute or blind. He can disrupt your working memory or your ability to recognize faces. He can even make it harder for you to say verbs while nouns remain as easy as ever. Weird, yes. Fringe, no."

23 years, 2 months

cctalk digest, Vol 1 #405 - 38 msgs

by sml49＠attbi.com

>> I've got a Mac Plus I got of Ebay some time ago. Anyone any idea how I >> can (legally) obtain an OS for it? I'd like to add a HDD to it; I've an >> old 600Mb in an external box lying around, am I going to be able to use >> this (even if I only get a 20/40/80Mb partition on it I'm a happy >> chicken.). Apple distributed the OS free to all up to 7.5x. Probably 7.55 is the highest you should go on a Plus anyway with its limited RAM capabilities, and if you don't really need OS 7.xx stick with 6.08 which is more spry on a machine as old and slow as a Plus. If anyone needs any of the older OS versions I'll be glad to provide you with disk images on CD if downloading is too much bother. Drop me a line. ..SML

23 years, 2 months

Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

John Willis <jwillis(a)arielusa.com> wrote: > S2VsbHk6IFBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgbWUgb2ZmIGxpc3QsIGFzIHRoaXMgc3R1cGlkIG91dGxvb2sg > d2ViIGFjY2Vzcw0Kd29uJ3QgbGV0IG1lIHNlZSB5b3VyIGVtYWlsIGFkZHJlc3MuDQogDQpUaGFu > a3MsDQpKb2huDQoNCgktLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLSANCglGcm9tOiBLZWxseSBM > ZWF2aXR0IA0KCVNlbnQ6IFdlZCAxLzIyLzIwMDMgNTo0MCBQTSANCglUbzogJ2NjdGFsa0BjbGFz > c2ljY21wLm9yZycgDQoJQ2M6IA0KCVN1YmplY3Q6IFJFOiBRdWFzaWphcnVzIDQuM0JTRCBvbiAx > NjAwYnBpIG1hZ3RhcGUNCgkNCgkNCg0KCUkndmUgZ290dGVuIHRoZSBkb3dubG9hZCBpbmZvLCBJ > [...] I'm tired of this shit! MS

23 years, 2 months

Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

John Willis <jwillis(a)arielusa.com> wrote: > U291bmRzIGdyZWF0LiBMZXQgbWUga25vdyB3aGF0IHlvdSBmaW5kIG91dCENCiANClRoYW5rcywN > CkpvaG4gIlZBWCBQaXJhdGUiIFdpbGxpcw0KDQoJLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0g > DQoJRnJvbTogS2VsbHkgTGVhdml0dCANCglTZW50OiBXZWQgMS8yMi8yMDAzIDQ6MDMgUE0gDQoJ > VG86ICdjY3RhbGtAY2xhc3NpY2NtcC5vcmcnIA0KCUNjOiANCglTdWJqZWN0OiBSRTogUXVhc2lq > YXJ1cyA0LjNCU0Qgb24gMTYwMGJwaSBtYWd0YXBlDQoJDQoJDQoNCglEZXBlbmRpbmcgb24gd2hl > cmUgeW91IHdvdWxkIG5lZWQgaXQgc2hpcHBlZCwgSSdkIHRyeSBtYWtpbmcgb25lDQpmb3IgeW91 > LiBJDQoJY291bGRuJ3QgZmluZCB0aGUgRlRQIHNpdGUsIGJ1dCBpZiBnaXZlbiB0aGUgZmlsZSBz > cGVjaWZpY3MsDQpJJ3ZlIGdvdCBhIFQxDQoJYXZhaWxhYmxlIGZvciB0aGUgZG93bmxvYWQgdG9v > [... ad nauseum] I can't read this!!! MS

23 years, 2 months

Dear Santa, I would like a VAX

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

As said, these people are morons to deal with. They insist that these machines should be expensive, cos they paid a fortune for them a while ago. A while? Apparently, they got fucked over bigtime :) --fred > -----Original Message----- > From: Doc Shipley [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > Sent: donderdag 23 januari 2003 1:58 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Dear Santa, I would like a VAX > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Mark Tapley wrote: > > > Ade et al, > > > And, if you have a lot more money available: (just came up on > > comp.sys.dec.micro) > > > > http://www.aub.nl/vaxsales/ > > > > a 3100-85 for 600 (money units not specified) > > a 3100-80 for 500 > > both for 1000. Each includes 3 VT510+keyboard. One > includes a CD. > > Holy Toledo, Batman!!! I'd sell BOTH of my uVAX 3100-80s for $500 > each! > > Hell, I'll take $350! > > Doc > >

23 years, 2 months

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