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by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Bob writes: > So in a few evenings of spare time, and for a fairly small > sum of money, you can have a huge, very reliable hard disk > system hanging off of your chosen vintage machine. > > Ok, now I'm off to write a boot-loader for this crazy thing, > and attempt my first ATA cold boot of HP-IPL/OS! Way cool! Sounds similar to the project that interfaces an ATA drive to the DEC Qbus! :) Ey Bob... we want pictures! --f

23 years, 3 months

ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by ceby2＠csc.com

Bill -- I have most of the System/36 stuff... except the languages, sigh. You wouldn't happen to have any of the SSP on 5.25" would you. I have a 5363 I've never successfully IPL'd . And while I'm turning your request for assistance on its head... you wouldn't happen to want a 5360 would you? I have one in need of a good home. I don't even have a garage so I'm paying storage for the beast (2 tape drives, 2 printers, expanded main cabinet with additional disk platters and the magazine version of the 8" floppy). Maybe I can be more helpful if you have other S/36 needs in future. I have a lot of the books and even a few already scanned to PDF. While I'm begging, I don't suppose anyone out there has the Office suite for S/36, or any interesting applications? Or maybe someone wants to be free of a 5364 (a little easier on the electric bills than the 63, 62 or 60). My systems only have SSP, and I have a perverse desire to get some use out of them. -Colin ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant, National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting.

23 years, 3 months

What's better than canned air?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 23, 9:03, Joe wrote: > At 08:56 PM 1/21/03 GMT, pete wrote: > >I was wondering about excess pressure the other day. I thought about a > >pressure switch to shut off the motor, but they seem to be quite expensive. > > Or am I just looking in the wrong places? > I don't know about the UK but such switches are readily available in the US. They're used for controlling the pumps on individual household water wells. I don't know about the UK either ;-) but that seems like a useful tip. Thanks! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

Mac SE up for grabs

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have not contacted this person so I don't know where it is. As always, respond to them if interested. Reply-to: HrrssA(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:39:49 EST From: HrrssA(a)aol.com Subject: donate I have a MAC SE ala 1986. Printer. Carrying case. Lots of SW. Still purrs. Any interest contact Andy Harriss at Hrrssa(a)aol.com. Thank you -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

Inland ProBackup 500 sought (pinouts or software)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

This is probably OffTopic(tm), but I thought folks here might be able to point me in the right direction. >From a previous life, I have a perfectly fine working UPS. The brand says "Inland - by ABI International". Model is "Probackup5000", part number is 19500. It has a DB9 serial port on the back for interfacing with a host to notify it of loss of ac, impending shutdown, etc. However, I don't have the software (for Windoze) that came with it. I've googled for hours, and can't come up with anything on this exact unit. Would anyone happen to have windows software for it? As a last resort, how standard is the DB9 pinout (IF I can find the pinout, no luck there either)... I'm wondering if I can use just about any UPS software for it. Any advice? THANKS! Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

23 years, 3 months

Spectrum Holobyte Tetris

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I ran across the unopened box today at a Salvation Army thrift. First, is there any reason to leave it unopened? It's not all that rare, is it? Second, this box is marked "IBM PC or Tandy 1000", but on the back it has features listed as "Macintosh, Macintosh II, Apple IIGS, Amiga, and Atari ST" only. Does this box include all those versions? Doc

23 years, 3 months

ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I might, I'll have to check.. I know I have COBOL and SSP and some other crud... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

cool find.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 25, 17:52, James Rice wrote: > You need to edit your resolv.conf file to something like this: > > hostresorder local bind > > domain charter.net > > nameserver 151.164.1.8 > nameserver 151.164.11.209 > nameserver 192.168.1.6 > If you don't have a resolv.conf file then use nedit to creat one. You > may not need three entries. The first two in mine are my ISP's > nameserver, the third one is the DNS server on my employers net that I > am VPN'ed into so I can administer it from home. This is from my Indy > running 6.5.x You only need one, but you can put in up to three. The hostresorder line isn't used, though -- it's a hangover from earlier versions and will be ignored in Irix 6.2 and upwards. What you need is an entry in /etc/nsswitch.conf, with the lines hosts: files dns ipnodes: files dns Most software uses the functions that use the hosts line, some uses ipnodes. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

IRIX distro (was Re: cool find.)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 26, 0:21, Doc Shipley wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Brian Chase wrote: > > > IRIX 6.5 supports pretty much everything from Indys up through their > > big Origin servers. I don't recall precisely where the cut-off is with > > support of the older systems. Certainly not any of the R3000 based > > ones, but I don't remember if the older straight R4000 Indigo2s were or > > not, but I know that the R5000 Indys and the R4400 Indigo2s are > > supported--probably the R4600 Indys too--and basically everything more > > recent than those. > > R4000 and R4600 Indys are supported, meaning the R4k Indigo2 ought to > be. 6.5 supports R4000 Indigo, all Indigo^2, all Indy, and anything later. A Crimson needs 5.3 or 6.2, not 6.5. An R3000 Indigo needs 5.3 or earlier. Actually, some of the older smaller machines run better with 5.3, but you need a big collection of patches, some of which are hard to find on SGI's "new improved" web site right now. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

Intel 8751

by stanb＠dial.pipex.com

Hi, To get back to computers for a change... While looking for some op-amp chips earlier I came across a couple of 8751s (labelled Intel '80). A quick google search failed to turn up a data sheet, anyone any ideas where I can look? -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb(a)dial.pipex.com The future was never like this!

23 years, 3 months

Subject: strange things to do with your IBM System/3x

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> all the ibm languages were available for the sys/34 >> and i have all of them basic,cobol,rpgii and fortran. > >Somewhat of a brash statement, as PL/I and APL were also >"IBM languages". :-) Sheesh... seeing the languages listed out... its like playing thru the levels of TRON :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Seeking LaserJet IIISi I/O card

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I have asked in the past about a replacement card for my HP LJ-IIID with little success (they are apparently somewhat rare). Several people offered me ones that did not physically fit. Well now, I have a *newer* old HP printer, an HP LJ-IIISi that takes the square interface cards with the white/grey 3-row connector. Unfortunately, the printer I got from OSU surplus (which seems to print just fine) only has this truely ancient C2059A integral print server - no serial or parallel, Novell only. :-( Worse, the firmware is particularly obsolete and deprecated by HP. So... if anyone has a spare interface card, I'm interested. Two, in fact; one for me and one for a friend who needs to hook another IIISi to his OS X Mac. The printer is on-topic (mine was manufactured in 1991) at least. Let me know cost/part numbers/etc off-list. Thanks, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

dwp 220 tandy

by MUSHHI＠aol.com

help where can i get a daisy printwheel for my obsolete Tandy 220 dwp printer thanks wolf 360-825-2200

23 years, 3 months

Harvard Mark I Manual On-Line

by blstuart＠bellsouth.net

I haven't seen this announced here, so for those of you who don't read alt.folklore.computers, Al Kossow has made available a scanned copy of the Manual of Operation for the Harvard Mark I. It's at: http://www.spies.com/aek/pdf/harvard/MarkI_operMan_1946.pdf Be forewarned, however, it's big-about 43Meg. I have a real soft spot for this one. Back in college, I was wandering the library stacks one day looking for something interesting. A book caught my eye. It was a black hardbound book about 2 inches thich with the simple title Manual of Operation. Of course, my curiosity was piqued; I just had to take a look. I'd never heard of the Mark I, but I was absolutly enthralled. I credit that find with much of my interest in the history of computing. By the way, anyone know of an emulator for the Mark I? Brian L. Stuart

23 years, 3 months

Subject: strange things to do with your IBM System/3x

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

after reading the subject line, i thought the article was going to be about sledge hammers or making them into wet bars (yes on the web - someone has made a vax rack into a wet bar). all the ibm languages were available for the sys/34 and i have all of them basic,cobol,rpgii and fortran. i even have diag and ssp (system support program, ibm's os for sys3x) the two sys34's i have both have bad control storage cards - a typical problem with 5 years in cold storage. otherwise i would be playing with them and not this basic less sys/36. the ssp and all languages for the sys/34 are not compatable with the 36. i did find the 3270 emulator for the 34 and i may have pc support for the 34 - i know i have both for the 36. i found out that one of my 34's came from the local collage - which explains the "funtime" diskettes. they are programs is basic that have printfiles for many "pic's" and football and other text based games. Bill Message: 42 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:17:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: strange things to do with your IBM System/3x (was Re: ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed) From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > I might, I'll have to check.. I know I have COBOL and SSP and some other > crud... When I was in junior high school, my friend Doug got a job working on RPG code on a System/34. In his spare time, he translated ADVENT [*] from PDP-10 Fortran to RPG II [**] to run on the System/34. I don't know if there existed a Fortran compiler for the System/34, but if there was, his employer apparently didn't have it. COBOL would actually be a more reasonable language [***] into which to translate ADVENT, and there was a System/34 COBOL compiler. All of the text-handling code in ADVENT is non-portable, because back then FORTRAN didn't have reasonable support for arrays of characters. The number of characters that would pack into any given numeric type was implementation-dependent. On the PDP-10, that was five 7-bit ASCII characters per 36-bit word, with one bit left over. I think Fortran 77 fixed this problem, by defining an actual CHARACTER type. Unfortunately I haven't been in touch with Doug in over twenty years now; I have no idea whether he still has a copy of his RPG ADVENT. Which is a shame, because it would be nice to try it with the Eraseerhead RPG II compiler, which is GPL'd: http://rpg.eraserhead.net/ Eric [*] The original Colossal Cave Adventure game by Crowther and Woods, written in Fortran for the DEC PDP-10. Named "ADVENT" because the TOPS-10 operating system only allows for six-character filenames in SIXBIT code, which does not include lower case. [**] Or maybe it was RPG III. I don't really know what was available on the System/34 back in the late 1970s. [***} I'll bet you never expected to see "COBOL" and "reasonable language" in the same sentence, without an "isn't" between them. :-) Now I'm not saying that I *like* COBOL, but there are definitely some things that it is better-suited for than Fortran IV. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

5110 trade update

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Funny people with a $5 offer will be actively ignored :) Ok... I'll offer $6 :-p -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

Data processing equip for sale

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Hi; Where are you located? Paxton Astoria. OR

23 years, 3 months

Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Fred N. van Kempen <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> wrote: > - select the correct tape boot blocks > (MT, TK etc) Not for 4.3BSD-QJ0a. You simply write the stand file from my distribution on the tape as the first file with 512-byte records. There is only one tape distribution for all machines and flavors. > - grab the correct kernel and/or RAM disk image Neither for 4.3BSD-Quasijarus (or for any Berkeley distribution ever made for that matter). MS

23 years, 3 months

Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> wrote: > Well, I had to use some programm to write the tapes, dd(1), maketape, or > somthing else. I made good experiences with maketape to write 2.11BSD > tapes, so I stayed with it and it worked very well.=20 > > [...] > > The same for dd(1). There may some implementation differences in dd(1), > say on SunOS or AIX, that may produce unusable tapes. Therefore I used > maketape. I had a glance at the code and it seams that it does > everything proper on every UNIX and Unix-like OS. > Don't forget the chicken-egg problem. If I have no 4.3BSD-Quasijarus > running, I have to use some random foreign OS to produce distribution > tapes. (Or I have to bother somone else to do it for me.) But dd is a standard general-purpose tool, as opposed to a highly specialized program for installing 2.11BSD. > I learnd that the bs=3D parameter of dd doesn't set the block size of the > tape with an ioctl, it is only the buffersize parameter that is used in > the write(2) syscall.=20 On every system I have used the sizes of records written on tapes are determined precisely by how much you write with one write or writev syscall, no ioctl needed. But if some weird system does require a special syscall, I can bet that dd on *that* system will make it. On each system its native dd utility will always do the right thing, as opposed to some special program ripped out of a 2.11BSD distribution and used for something it was never intended for (to write dist tapes for a completely different OS). MS

23 years, 3 months

Grundy Newbrain

by toring＠inet.uni2.dk

Hi, I have an old Grundy Newbrain AD computer which doesn't work. The machine powers up with random chars in the built in anode display, but doesn't respond to keypresses. I used the machine some 20 years ago, and when I put it away at that time it was ok. I've checked the voltages at the 4116 RAM's and they are ok (+5, +12 and -5 volts). The ripple is also within reasonable limits. I don't have the schema for the machine so right new I'm pretty lost. Is anyone able to help me out? If so, please answer directly at my email address. Regards, Torben Ring DENMARK

23 years, 3 months

Apple IIe in original boxes (for sale) (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

All the relevant information is below. Reply to the original sender. Reply-to: <cacannon(a)albrightmail.alief.isd.tenet.edu> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:47:24 -0600 From: "Cannon, Cynthia" <cacannon(a)albrightmail.alief.isd.tenet.edu> To: "'bounty(a)vintagetech.com'" <bounty(a)vintagetech.com> Subject: Apple II e I have an Apple II e, dual disk drive, monitor, original packing boxes, manuals, some software, etc. Many of the ancillary manuals are still sealed in their plastic wrap. I am interested in selling them. Are you interested? Cynthia Cannon 7203 Triola Lane Houston, Texas 77074 713-271-4203 cyndi324(a)aol.com -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> > > Yes. Use maketape from the 2.11BSD distribution. > > I strongly advise against this approach. > Well, I had to use some programm to write the tapes, dd(1), > maketape, or somthing else. Indeed. There is *nothing* magical about making tapes from selected files. What you have to keep in mind are: - select the correct tape boot blocks (MT, TK etc) - grab the correct kernel and/or RAM disk image - use the right blocksize for the above "file" (usually 512bytes) For the remaining files on the tape, blocksizes vary between OSes, and can be anywhere between 512 (old systems) and 10K (UNIX tar files). The key issue is to generate a magtape file marker between the individual files, so the tape handling software knows where a file ends. The block size and tape marker generation are done correctly by the Maketape program. If you want to do it manually: - grab the first ("bootable") file for the tape, and dd it to the tape: dd if=bootfile.img of=/dev/ntape bs=512 this copies "bootfile.img" to the tape, using a block size of 512 bytes, and when done, it will write a tape mark and **NOT** rewind the tape ("ntape" - can be /dev/nrst0, /dev/nrmt0h, /dev/ntk0, etc.) - copy the other files to the tape: dd if=nextfile.foo of=/dev/ntape bs=10240 which copies "nextfile.foo" to the tape, using a block size of 10240 bytes (common for UNIX tar files) and when done, writes the tape mark, and NOT rewind. - when done, write a tape mark and rewind the tape: mt -f /dev/ntape weof mt -f /dev/ntape rewind where the first command (Write EOF) is optional, as most UNIX systems do this automatically when rewinding a tape in write mode. This creates a magtape in the right format for booting. Tools like the Maketape program do this as well, based on a small description file which tells it what goes where and such. > > dd if=stand of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=512 > I learnd that the bs= parameter of dd doesn't set the block > size of the tape with an ioctl, it is only the buffersize > parameter that is used in the write(2) syscall. Correct. The 'dd' program **does not** set the physical block size of the tape device, as it is a generic block/deblock tool, and has no knowledge of devices whatsoever. It sets the block buffer size(s), on which the READ(2) and WRITE(2) system calls are based, which in turn tell the tape device driver what the block size is to be. This only works in the "raw" mode of tape devices, by the way- always use the 'r' device file of a tape unit when doing the above. Cheers, Fred

23 years, 3 months

Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> wrote: > Yes. Use maketape from the 2.11BSD distribution. I strongly advise against this approach. I will not provide any help or support to any user attempting to bootstrap 4.3BSD-Quasijarus from tapes written by this method. 4.3BSD-Quasijarus isn't 2.11BSD, and one cannot expect the tools >from some random foreign OS to produce correct distribution tapes for 4.3BSD- Quasijarus. > You have to observe the > correct block sizes, that you can't do with dd. Yes you can. dd bs=blocksize. Here is the sequence of commands to write a 4.3BSD-Quasijarus 1600 BPI distribution: (mount the first reel) dd if=stand of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=512 dd if=miniroot of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b dd if=rootdump of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b dd if=usr.tar of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b mt rew (first reel done) (mount the second reel) dd if=srcsys.tar.Z of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b dd if=src.tar.Z of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b (second reel done) MS

23 years, 3 months

5110 trade update

by francois＠auradon.com

Hi all, It seems like I am going to end up tading for cash :) This will make it easier on everybody and it seems like nobody wants to get rid of their interesting items. I will be putting pictures on my serve this week end anyone interested in welcome to ask me for the address. I will be listing the documentation that I have and any original floppy (if any). Interested parties should contact me before the end of the day sunday (+/- 1 earth revolution :) Funny people with a $5 offer will be actively ignored :) Thank you. Francois

23 years, 3 months

Digital AXPpci33 "noname" questions

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>If you mean me, my AXPpci33 upgrade was successful (but just in case >I've missed something, what version did you find?) If you mean someone >else, then I'll just go back to minding my own business. It might have been you... Anyway, the image I produced is bootable from the SRM console and delivers a V4.something, if I remember correctly, which is the last version of the console firmware for the AXPpci33... it came from a V6 (or later) CD... Megan

23 years, 3 months

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