>Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com>
>By popular demand, Jay and I have set up demime on the ClassicCmp
server,
>and all posts are being filtered through it. From here on out, all posts
you
>get from CC will be in plain text, with no attachments or HTML. If you
send
Thank You, you have no idea how much I appreciate this !!!!!!!
Rich Stephenson
Lake Berryessa,
California
By popular demand, Jay and I have set up demime on the ClassicCmp server,
and all posts are being filtered through it. From here on out, all posts you
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other than plain text messages, plain text will be extracted or rendered as
appropriate. Even HTML-only or RTF-only mail is rendered into plain text.
Demime tries very hard to convert your post into plain text, but if it
simply cannot, it will bounce your post.
You don't need to change anything. This change should be totally transparent
to all subscribers. Just keep posting or lurking as you always have. A round
of thanks goes out to all who suggested the use of a tool like demime.
For more information about demime, you may wish to visit its web site:
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The saga of the ARM Evaluation Kit discs continues...
I still don't have a complete uncorrupted Disc 1, which is the disc
containing the editors and assembler for the ARM. Rob, who hoped to
make a copy for me has found that his Disc 1 also has a corrupt track
in exactly the same place as mine and Kevan's. Perhaps there was a
batch of corrput discs from Acorn's disc duplicators.
Can I ask anyone who thinks they have Disc 1 for the ARM Evaluation Kit
to *please* make an effort to dig it out, and either copy it for me, or
lend it?
I now know of at least four or five people who would be very grateful.
I'll pay for postage etc, of course, by recorded delivery if
necessary. I've worked out at least one way to make disc images that
should be accessible to a BBC Micro, so if I can get Disc 1 sorted out,
I can not only make copies for those who I know want them, but make the
images available on a website.
Thanks to those who've already made helpful suggestions about disc
images.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/Home/level_5.jhtml?PRODID=9629&SKUID=8874
Above is a set of tamper proof bits At MCM electronics. Dayton OH USA
web-store.
SECURITY SD2519 BIT SET 30 PC W/ SCREWDRIVER
30 Piece Security Screwdriver Insert Bit Kit
This is a complete set of security bits for all of those difficult service
applications, such as IBM PS/2 monitors, cable boxes, telephone equipment
and many others.
Kit contains: 5/64", 3/32", 7/64", 1/8", 9/64", 5/32" security hex keys; T8,
T10, T15, T20, T25, T27, T30, T35, T40 security torx bits; #6, #8, #10 torx
set bits; #4, #6, #8, #10 spanners; #1, #2, #3, #4 tri-wings, bit holder,
1/4" socket adaptor, 7-1/2" magnetic handle and plastic carrying case.
Larry Truthan
Digest subscriber
Dublin OH USA
(posting to list because I'm not sure my first try went through)
Colin,
I'd be very interested in the 5360.. Where is it? I have a full set of S/36
software on 5.25" disks...
Will J
Hi Tony and everyone,
Thanks for the suggestions. All of the floppies that I substituted looked
absolutely identical to the one that wasn't working.
The last thing that I did was to try another floppy drive data cable (it's
the standard PC-style dual floppy cable with the 34-pin IDC connector on the
controller end and the card edge connector on the other end). When I simply
replaced the original cable on the left-hand drive with the new one, the
problem remained. When I swapped the cables to each drive (right going to
left and left going to right), it worked perfectly! I assume that there must
be some sort of drive select or other difference between the two floppy
drives, but why the right one works in either location, and the left one
works only as the primary (right-hand) drive is beyond me.
After I convinced myself that everything was now okay, I physically
interchanged the floppies (left to right and right to left) and took the
opportunity to examine them very carefully to look for differences. I saw
none. Even the date codes were identical! I'm not saying that there aren't
any differences--in fact, there must be--but there wasn't anything obvious
to me.
The only difference with the 9836C that I notice now (besides the obvious
lack of an error message at startup) is that the LED on the floppy
controller board labeled "TR00" (those are zeroes) is no longer illuminated
after the POST. I assume that is a Track 0 seek failure indicator, but I'm
just speculating.
Whatever the case, I'm delighted that it's fixed! Thanks to everyone for
their help and suggestions!
Regards,
Stan
From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
Subject: Re: Problem with 9836C floppy drive
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:06:48 +0000 (GMT)
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> series of high and low pitched beeps (low, low, high, low, high, high,
low).
I assume that's some kind of error code, which would be useful if the
video side was malfunctioning. Anyone have a table of them?
> After that, it is able to load an OS (HP BASIC) and run fine, with the
> exception that the left-hand floppy drive is inaccessible.
>
> I've taken a known good floppy drive, floppy controller, and even the CPU
I assume you checked that the replacement drive was configured the same
way (link settings, termination resistor pack) as the old one?
What about the cables to this drive? Have you checked it's getting power
(IIRC there's a conventional 4 pin power connector in there). Have you
tested/swapped the data cable?
-tony
> By popular demand, Jay and I have set up demime on the ClassicCmp server,
absolutely brilliant!! Can you set something up to automatically strip off my
yahoo .sig too? ;-)
cheers!
Jules
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
>from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com
Bill:
I don't have a CoCo, but I do have a DVI. So I was going to raid the
drive from an external CoCo drive that I somehow got and use it in the DVI.
I was concerned more with electrical compatibility than software
compatibility. I didn't realize that in those machines Tandy used standard
floppy drives. I guess by that point in time, many manufacturers (except
Apple and Commodore) standardized on an IBM-style drives rather than
proprietary setups.
I'm sure I'm over-generalizing and will start a sprightly discussion
on disk formats :-)
Thanks to all who responded.
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Allen Jr [mailto:n8uhn@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:14 AM
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Model 100 DVI drive
I cannot remember what the model 100 used for a drive.
the coco and coco 2/3 both used standard (ibm
compatable) mfm, 5 1/4 in, single sided, low density
floppy drives.
the card edge connector for the coco cable between the
interface cart and floppy was a streight thru cable -
(pin 1 went to pin 1 etc).
i have used standard 360k floppys on the coco - it
only uses one side of the diskette for 180k.
if the model 100 has the same pinout and uses a
standard mfm dirve it should work.
btw the coco drive case did have a power supply in it
for the drive - power did not come from the cart.
Bill
Message: 36
From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com>
To: "CCTech (E-mail)" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Model 100 DVI drive
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:55:53 -0500
Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Hello, all:
Does anyone know if the specs on the Model 100
Disk-Video Interface
is the same as the CoCo disks? I have a single-drive
DVI and a single
low-profile CoCo disk drive. They physically look to
be the same but I
wanted to be sure before I lashed them together.
Thanks.
Rich
==========================
Richard A. Cini, Jr.
First Vice President
Congress Financial Corporation
1133 Avenue of the Americas
30th Floor
New York, NY 10036
(212) 545-4402
(212) 840-6259 (facsimile)
End of cctech Digest
A friend gave me a LM-2 Logic monitor from Global Specialties Corp. It has a
button called the Family Threshold Select with 5 settings: RTL, DTL, TTL,
HTL, and CMOS. Did a google search trying to find a manual but no luck so
far.
Got a brand new unopened 500+ piece puzzle called MICROCHIP and it's dated
1983the cover of the box is a huge picture of a microchip circuit design.
Not sure if I should break the seal and put it together or just leave it
untouched for now?
Data General walkabout computers (3) not tested yet. Need power adapters.
I've managed to pick up a pair of "Atomic Instrument Company" Model
1091's from Purdue yesterday. They were manufactured in 1962, and the
reason that I claim that they're on-topic is because they 'count'.
Googling for "Atomic Instrument Company" brings back a grand total of
three results... nothing that looks useful. Does anyone know anything
about the company or where a schematic could be found?
These are the first things i've brought home that use a set of vacuum
tubes (thermionic valves for those on the other side of the pond) to
count.
Really neat.
I've put up a pair of blurry pictures of its front (I don't have access to
good lighting at the moment...) on my web site:
http://purdueriots.com/mr-atomic/
Warning: the pictures have a large resolution, but are only about 80kB in
size.
Pat
--
Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS
Information Technology at Purdue
Research Computing and Storage
http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu
IBM PS/2 model 35SX - HDD of some description, 1920Kb RAM. Also with
Proprinter XL, and IBM Monitor (heavy burnin).
This is going in the skip next week, if anyone wants to rescue it from
Ellesmere Port (UK) then let me know and I'll rescue it.
Tim.
>Anyone who likes a different expression other than
>"NEWFIX" that is 6 letters or less - please suggest.
Y2KFIX or Y10KFX (as appropriate)? That seems more specific.
- Mark
I cannot remember what the model 100 used for a drive.
the coco and coco 2/3 both used standard (ibm
compatable) mfm, 5 1/4 in, single sided, low density
floppy drives.
the card edge connector for the coco cable between the
interface cart and floppy was a streight thru cable -
(pin 1 went to pin 1 etc).
i have used standard 360k floppys on the coco - it
only uses one side of the diskette for 180k.
if the model 100 has the same pinout and uses a
standard mfm dirve it should work.
btw the coco drive case did have a power supply in it
for the drive - power did not come from the cart.
Bill
Message: 36
From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com>
To: "CCTech (E-mail)" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Model 100 DVI drive
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:55:53 -0500
Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Hello, all:
Does anyone know if the specs on the Model 100
Disk-Video Interface
is the same as the CoCo disks? I have a single-drive
DVI and a single
low-profile CoCo disk drive. They physically look to
be the same but I
wanted to be sure before I lashed them together.
Thanks.
Rich
==========================
Richard A. Cini, Jr.
First Vice President
Congress Financial Corporation
1133 Avenue of the Americas
30th Floor
New York, NY 10036
(212) 545-4402
(212) 840-6259 (facsimile)
End of cctech Digest
It would be easier if you specified what these parts were - a lot of us don't
have manuals etc, so we end up looking at the numbers on the boards or other
components. Don W
> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:30:31 +0100
> From: ANTIK <antikgmbh(a)compuserve.com>
> Organization: ANTIK
> To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Looking for DEC parts
> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>
> Hello,
>
> I found your e-mail address after searching for the DEC part#
> 21-15542-01 on the "googles" platform.
>
> We are a German independent distributor and looking for several DEC
> parts for our customer.
> May you can help ???
>
> These are the parts we are looking for:
>
> 5 pcs. DEC 21-17311-01 or 21-17311-02
> 2 pcs. DEC 21-17312-00 or 21-17312-01
> 2 pcs. DEC 57-00001-01
> 2 pcs. DEC 57-00000-01
> 2 pcs. DEC 21-15542-01
>
> Any luck for us ??
>
> Thank you for a short notice.
> Best regards
> Erika
> Antik Elektronik-Vertriebs-GmbH
> Tel: +49 4191 89441
> Fax: +49 4191 89337
>
> --__--__--
For those in Europe there's a Sharp 3100 with the very
rare floppy dd on UK EPay. Has display problems but
likely not hard to fix. They are similiar to the HP 100s
handhelds and take the same memory card. Also seems
to have the proprietory laplink cable and the manual.
2Megs memory on board. Has DOS 3 in ram. I'd kill to
find one this side of the pond but overall cost would
likely be too pricey for me.
It's presently at 16 lbs with 8 days to go.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&categor
y=3728&item=3003997495
I have no connection with the seller.
Lawrence
lgwalker@ mts.net
During my electrican days, we used screw heads like that to secure light
fixture covers in jail cells. They were the standard screw on jail rate
fixtures. Those fixtures used a welded frame with 1" thick lexan lenses.
James
>>I've also seen some screw heads that have three tiny round holes, arranged
>>>in a triangular pattern.
>
>
> I've never seen those or the tools to R/R them (and I have a BOX full of bits). I'm guessing that they're proprietary to one company.
>
>
> Joe
>
`
-------------------Original Message----------------
From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com>
Subject: Model 100 DVI drive
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:55:53 -0500
Hello, all:
Does anyone know if the specs on the Model 100 Disk-Video Interface
is the same as the CoCo disks? I have a single-drive DVI and a single
low-profile CoCo disk drive. They physically look to be the same but I
wanted to be sure before I lashed them together.
Thanks.
Rich
----------------------------------------------------------
Hi Rich:
I can't answer your question, but I do have a DVI and the manual and s/w,
if that can help you in any way. It runs CP/M IIRC.
And if anybody's interested, make me an offer...
mike in Toronto, Can.
Jim Willing wrote:
> Well... eight 'arrow' keys (I think, I'm not in front of it at the
> moment) with the 'usual' up, down, left, right... then diagonal (???)
> keys, and some have the legend 'roll' on them as well...
> I think it has its proper keyboard, but it has no numeric pad. Did note
> an alternate numeric set in the alpha keys similar to some keypunch
> machines...
These make me think that it is a 2621-style keyboard. Sorry, like I
wrote before, the 2621 wasn't capable of running VPLUS applications
and so it was sort of shunned at the PPOE where we had one. But I
remember it had a single group of keys with the cursor keys right
above the numeric keys (and I think doing double duty as function keys,
albeit non-programmable function keys).
-Frank McConnell
I'm dusting off this old AXPpci33 motherboard of mine and ran into a few
issues... I'm attempting to upgrade the firmware and I have the file
>from the Digital/Compaq/HP web site (Dec 2002 version), but the
instructions don't match my situation. I don't have the ability to
cobble up a boot floppy with OpenVMS (my DEC 4000 has no RX33 or
equivalent), I don't seem to have a compatible network card to BOOTP
it in, and the FAT floppy technique doesn't work with the firmware
I have in there now.
So... does anyone know where I can find a reference to which network
cards are supported for network boot? I have all the common cards
like NE2000s, 3C509s, 8013s, etc., and a few PCI cards. I even have
a card in there now with a DEC 21143-PA chip, but the ROMs don't seem
to like it. Alternatively, in a similar vein to what someone else
recently requested for their Multia, can someone on the list make a
raw disk image I can "dd" onto a blank floppy? The Unix technique
on the HP webpage requires a Digital Unix binary program to convert
the firmare utility file to some other format and I can't do it from
Linux or Solaris.
Thanks,
-ethan
P.S. - I also can't find any reference to the supported memory
configurations of the AXPpci33 board - I have some parity 16MB
SIMMs, giving me 64MB, but I'd like to use some of these parity
64MB SIMMs I have here from AIR motherboards (formerly CompuServe
"CompuHosts"). Got a set of 4 ready to go, but it seems that few
boards ever supported 64MB 72-pin memory. :-(
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thanks to everyone for the website pointers! I've just tried the three systems
and they all seem to work; unfortunately the LC and the Performa have been
cleared of application software, but the Mac II stil has Word on it. Word feels
faster to use on that than the modern version on my 1GHz PC - progress, huh!?
:-)
> The Mac II has a port for a second (external) floppy.
yes, this one has both an 800K and 1.4MB drive installed. Not sure what speed
the CPU is yet, I haven't dug around inside too much.
> These machines can run up to MacOS 7.6.1 but
> are quicker and more at home with 7.5.3 or even 6.0.8, which is quite speedy
> on even machines as slow as these. Do you plan to display them, actually
> use 'em or what? I have a slew of parts and old drives and whatnot for these
> machines - the drive's usually what goes on them.
well I'm not short of spare SCSI drives if you mean the hard disc, but floppies
are another matter.
I put SCSI in any PCs that I build so I have a stack of older drives spare as a
result of upgrades. What I don't have is any OS or application software for
these critters, so when the disks fail I'm currently stuffed.
I haven't tried any of the floppy drives yet to see if they work...
I'll probably pass a couple of the machines on to a good home in a few weeks as
I don't really have space for everything; I was just curious about them as I
haven't used macs for about ten years now. Strangely enough, I used to live
around here and I've just found at that the mac II is the very same machine
that I used to use at college! Funny seeing it again - I bet it's changed hands
a few times in the meantime...
Not sure which system I'll hang on to yet... the II has the advantage of having
ethernet and the twin drives, plus the application software - but the LC III is
perhaps the more usable machine if I can get software for it and get it on the
ethernet LAN somehow. With a copy of Word on it I'd probably use it now and
then; I'd forgotten how nice those keyboards were and it certainly feels like a
quick machine for its age.
> By the way: check the motherboard battery to make sure it's live (3.6v
> lithium).
I noticed those on the boards. They seem to be OK, at least no complaints on
startup...
cheers
Jules
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
>from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:14:12 -0600, you wrote:
>It would be nice to find a source of the DEC plastic module handles,
>and the metal stiffener/ejector handles used on DEC hex-height modules.
>But I'm not holding my breath for those, either.
Have you tried Douglas Electronics? They have handles (not
original DEC colors but a strange whitish color) and prototyping
cards of all sizes.
http://www.douglas.com/hardware/pcbs/breadboards/digital.html
-Charles
At 05:06 AM 1/29/03 -0600, Toth wrote:
>
>> For cleaning computer plastics, the absolute best product I've found (in
>> the US) is Hoppe's No. 9 Powder Solvent. Found at your local sporting
>> goods store. Even removes PERMANENT Sharpie.
>
>Has anyone tried removing Sharpie from a chassis with textured paint? I
>have a couple of items that were marked up with a Sharpie, and short of
>paint thinner (which seems to dilute and bury the ink in the paint while
>damaging the texture), I've found nothing that seems to work.
I've used alcohol on that stuff and it seems to remove some but not all of it. I've never found anything that would remove it completely.
Joe