>The class action suit should of course be against the blockers. We
really need
>a law that guarantees penalties for spamblockers 10 times greater than
those
>for spammers. If you send spam, you get 1 year in prison. If you assault
an
>open relay operator, mangle E-mail addresses, or do anything else to
desecrate
>the Classic Computing tradition, you should get 10 years in prison. If a
>spammer gets 5 years in prison, spamblockers must get 50 years.
Excuse me ? Perhaps we should all forward all of our spam, porn and
otherwise, to you.
Please provide a valid address so we may do so.
Rich Stephenson
California
>Also, that he was a school teacher is not that surprising. Ron Jeremy,
>who is a big, ugly, hairy porn star that has been in the business for
>probably over two decades now and has started to spill over into
>mainstream TV (usually in comedic roles) used to be a high school teacher.
He also won a Mr. Universe contest or one of similar name, don't recall
the exact one, but it was one of those male beauty pagent things.
Of course that was LONG before his porn career and presumably while he
was in better shape.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>(Noogies for the person who can name the *1* airliner that comes
>closest to beating this record...)
Quantas?
(based entirely off "Rain Man" making the claim that Quantas has never
had a crash) :-)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Speaking of, does anyone remember the Artworx Strip Poker games? They
>were available in the beginning for Apple II, PC, Commodore 64, and Atari,
>but the later games were available only for PC. I really liked those
>games.
Yup, I have a copy for the Apple II. But I only have the one disk, so I
only have the two girls that come with it. I never found other disks, but
I seem to recall an option to insert disks of other girls.
I also remember being a horny kid and taking photos of the screen after I
beat the girls. Then forgot about it, sent the film in to be developed. I
picked it up one afternoon with my father, and the guy at the lab said
there was no charge because none of the pictures came out. My father and
I sat in the car looking at the negatives trying to figure out what they
were, when I realized what it was I was looking at and freaked. Nothing
like trying to convince your father to stop analyzing them before he too
figures out what it is he is looking at.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Bill Richman <bill(a)timeguy.com> wrote:
> RoadRunner's response was to fix the
> open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state
> that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all
> mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users.
I side with and fully support RoadRunner. Open relays are a very important
Classic Computing feature, and every true ClassicCmper must support them.
> I'm about ready to start a class action suit, although
> they probably have something in the fine print that prevents that. GRRR!
The class action suit should of course be against the blockers. We really need
a law that guarantees penalties for spamblockers 10 times greater than those
for spammers. If you send spam, you get 1 year in prison. If you assault an
open relay operator, mangle E-mail addresses, or do anything else to desecrate
the Classic Computing tradition, you should get 10 years in prison. If a
spammer gets 5 years in prison, spamblockers must get 50 years.
--
Michael Sokolov
Programletarian Freedom Fighter
International Free Computing Task Force
Let the Source be with you
Programletarians of the world, unite!
I recently aquired a Data General 4000 series server . It appears to be
complete (except for keyboard ,mouse and manuals as usual) ;however, before i
give it juice would like to confirm its condition.
Can anyone help me with manuals or point me towards downloadable manuals (any
thing that would be useful). Internet search returned very little info.
thanks
Adrian,
Jesus! Nice collection! ;)
You're no doubt going to be swamped with "me too!" requests, but..
are you willing to make copies available? I am doing a major DEC
software repository here, to which people have access (on an ask-
first basis, legal issues and such..) so it doesnt get lost.
Space is not an issue (the current array is 5x180G) and neither is
bandwidth. If we can work something out (like you making ISO image
copies of the CD, and making TDF dumps of the tapes) we can either
ftp them over, or i can pay for you shipping a tape with em...
Thanks,
Fred
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Witchy [mailto:witchy@binarydinosaurs.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:34 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Digital DNAS CD request & CD list
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Been having a good look round for my DNAS 2.2 CD and I'm
> pretty sure it's
> currently out on loan with an ex-colleague so I'm checking
> and will let you
> all know when it turns up. I found its box but what use is that :)
>
> While I was rooting through my boxes of stuff I found a lot
> of CDs and tapes
> I'd forgotten about that might be useful in the future so
> here's a quick
> list: (from memory)
>
> CDs:
> InfoserverVXT
> Infoserver 1000
> Infoserver Disk & Tape access
> VXT Host software (VAX)
> OpenVMS AXP V1.0
> OpenVMS AXP V1.5
> OpenVMS AXP V6.1
> OSF/1 T1.0 is in there somewhere; need to dig that one out too.
> OSF/1 V1.3
> Alpha firmware updates from about v2.x up to 5.x (on floppy too)
> Ultrix 4.2 VAX and RISC
> Ultrix Layered Products, 1994?
> OpenVMS Freeware from 1.0 to 5.0
> OpenVMS Internet Product Suite 1.1
> All versions of OpenVMS from 5.5 to 7.3, VAX and Alpha
> Digital UNIX V3.2
> Digital UNIX Layered Products
> Tru64 V4.0D and 4.0G
> Tru64 Layered Products
> VMS Layered Product sets from around Sep 1992 up to
> 1999/2000, also current
> LPs, VAX and Alpha (many boxes!)
>
> Tapes (TK50):
> VMS 5.0
> VMS 5.2
> VMS 5.3
> VMS 5.3-1
> VMS 5.4
> VMS 5.4-2 + MUP
> VMS 5.4-3
> VMS 5.5-2H4 + MUP
> plus there's some I remember picking up that must be in another box I
> haven't found yet, like VMS 5.5, VMS 5.0-1, VMS 5.0-2, Dibol
> 4.2, DECwindows
> etc.
> MVII Diagnostics
> Bootable PDP11/73 tape, probably RT/11 V5.4 & CTS300 V8.2
>
> Yes, I'm a hoarder :o)
>
> --
> adrian/witchy
> www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
> www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
Today at the thrift I found a red case/black face/yellow button external 3.5
FD by Nintendo model HVC-022. Most of the writing on it is in Japanese. It
was missing the ac adapter and cable. Copyright date on it is 1985. Anyone
else have one of these?
On Jan 30, 20:44, Eric Chomko wrote:
>
> Please add to the list your personal experience of computers sales.
> If you didn't sell it don't add it.
Sales:
BBC Microcomputer Model A,B
Torch Z80 etc
Acorn Econet systems
Acorn Cambridge Workstation
BBC Master Series
Acorn Archimedes
Acorn R140, R260
Microvitec monitors
Repairs etc:
Commodore PET 2001...4032
Apple ][, ][+, //e
Exidy Sorcerer
Acorn/BBC systems
Acorn/SJ Econet systems
Amstrad CPC range
Apricot PC...Xen-i
Sony Word Processor
DEC PDP-11 (QBus systems)
ACT Sirius
Microvitec monitors
Epson printers
Sinclair ZX81/Spectrum/QL
and probably lots of machines and peripherals I've forgotten about.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix
the
>open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state
>that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all
Good old Roadrunner, the source of some of the most annoying pornographic
spam in my Inbox, Sally and the Saint Bernard, Sex with my Mom and so on.
Complaints are ignored and the deluge of crap continues
Rich Stephenson
California
On Feb 1, 16:24, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> Excuse me? The GNAT development environment is very much available
> on Windows. I've been tempted to install it on Windows as there is
> a very nice looking IDE (I believe done by the Air Force) that is
> freely available for Windows.
Indeed, Computer Science at York does quite a lot of teaching in Ada on
Windows. I don't know if they still do, but they used to let students
in practical classes use either Linux or Windows, because Ada was one
of the few things that works exactly hte same under either -- except,
in our setup, for network bandwidth. The Ada classes (using Windows)
were responsible for my having to upgrade the classroom links.
> One thing about Ada that I found rather interesting was mention of an
> OS written in Great Britain in the early 80's. It was written in Ada
> and ran on the PDP-11.
Probably written by CompSci staff at York. They certainly wrote a
compiler and an environment to support it.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
"TeoZ" <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Anybody here using Amiga 500's?
>
Yes, I have two of them, both still operational.
--
Bob Mason
2x Amiga 500's, GVP A530 (40mhz 68030/68882, 8meg Fast, SCSI), 1.3/3.1, 2meg Chip, full ECS chipset, EZ135, 1084S, big harddrives, 2.2xCD
Gateway Performance 500 Piece 'o Crap, 'ME, 128meg, 20Gig & 40Gig, flatbed.
Heathkit H-89A, 64K RAM, hard and soft-sectored floppies, SigmaSoft and Systems 256K RAM Drive/Print Spooler/Graphics board HDOS 2 & CP/M 2.2.03/2.2.04
>Over two years, Simson Garfinkel and Abhi Shelat bought 158 used hard drives
>at secondhand computer stores and on eBay. Of the 129 drives that
>functioned, 69 still had recoverable files on them and 49 contained
>"significant personal information" - medical correspondence, love letters,
>pornography and 5,000 credit card numbers. One even had a year's worth of
>transactions with account numbers from a cash machine in Illinois. "
First old PC I ever bought was from I think PCmall, they had just moved to
a new building and gave all their people new computers, and sold the old
one from a couple pallets in the outlet store. The sign said no hard drives
and no memory, but the guy at the counter said that "some" might still have
them. The one I bought had a couple years of client and vendor billing
data. I have SE/30 from a county psych center complete with all the ready
to print forms and a bunch of patient histories.
Many small scrappers promise whatever and then sell to whoever has the top
dollar. Or worse they are honest and won't sell to me. ;( Wow do I hate
walking into ta place and seeing tasty hard drives etc. getting drilled etc.
I don't see it as getting to be a real serious problem for us though, since
its pretty costly to scrap old computers "by the book". Much easier to tell
Joe in the warehouse to get rid of the old stuff, and he calls some
scrapper who slips him a few bucks and huals everything away on the spot.
Dear cctalk people, I recently got my hands on a HP 9836CU with monitor
and HP-IB hard disk. Upon power-up, the machine behaves similarly to
Stan's post of Thu, 23 Jan 2003, where his 9836 gave him this:
.
> Flexible Disc
> Flexible Disc Failed
and he heard this:
.
> After the POST, but before the 9836C looks for an OS to load, it emits a
> series of high and low pitched beeps (low, low, high, low, high, high,
> low).
But my 9836CU does not boot. The lights on the front of the HP-IB disk
flash when the machine goes through POST an tries to boot, but the disk
does not seem to be spinning and I don't hear heads moving. I don't know
whether the hard disk works nor do I have any floppies, bootable or
otherwise.
Does anyone have any floppies that can be used to boot the a HP 9836CU?
Other system software? Documentation?
thanks, -kurt
Just got my UC Irvine student applicant 2003-04 financial aid paperwork. The
picture in the booklet of a student getting his education shows a little Asian-
looking guy in front of... a DEC workstation!!! The keyboard has an
unmistakable, so dear and familiar to me LK201 or successor layout, the screen
with some graphics (of unidentifiable nature) has the authentic look of a DEC
monitor (even the d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo can be made out), and DEC-looking boxes (I
guess external CD-ROM drives) can be seen in the back. The whole thing displays
perfect harmony in DEC colors. (Can't tell, though, whether the workstation is
a VAX, MIPS, or Alpha, except that I can see it sitting under the monitor.)
When I was registering my company in the San Diego County Clerk's office in
June of last year (that's the same place where couples tie the knot on this
side of the pond) I was similarly delighted to see all the clerks typing on DEC
terminals, with DECconnect cables running around the office.
And a few years ago when I was still watching TV (happily living without a TV
for 2.5 years now) there was a program asking people to donate blood. They
showed footage of the process and my eyes were immediately caught by a VT220.
But unfortunately most libraries, a former stronghold of VMS-based catalog
servers and public DEC VT terminals, have now been lost to pee-sea-fication.
MS
Dear cctalk people, I recently got my hands on a HP 9836CU with monitor
and HP-IB hard disk. Upon power-up, the machine behaves similarly to
Stan's post of Thu, 23 Jan 2003, where his 9836 gave him this:
.
> Flexible Disc
> Flexible Disc Failed
and he heard this:
.
> After the POST, but before the 9836C looks for an OS to load, it emits a
> series of high and low pitched beeps (low, low, high, low, high, high,
> low).
But my 9836CU does not boot. The lights on the front of the HP-IB disk
flash when the machine goes through POST an tries to boot, but the disk
does not seem to be spinning and I don't hear heads moving. I don't know
whether the hard disk works nor do I have any floppies, bootable or
otherwise.
Does anyone have any floppies that can be used to boot the a HP 9836CU?
Other system software? Documentation?
thanks, -kurt
I apologize for this being way within the 10 years, but
there's such a wealth of knowledge & experience on this
list I just had to ask:
I've got an IBM Ambra 6300 08E here that came without a
floppy drive (just an HD & CD-ROM), which makes it very
awkward to run diagnostics, install drivers, etc.
Does anybody know how to add a 3.5 floppy? I've tried
a Panasonic & a Sony, the normal way, drive 1 with the
twist, and also drive 0 without, but no luck. Any ideas?
Thanks for any help, and sorry for the OT.
mike
------Original Message--------------
From: "Ernest" <ernestls(a)attbi.com>
Subject: RE: Another apology
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:05:10 -0800
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On
> Behalf Of M H Stein
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:01 AM
> To: 'ClassicComputers'
> Subject: Another apology
>
>
> To everyone who's waiting to hear from me
> about stuff I've offered, another apology!
> Been awfully busy with work & health matters
> and haven't had time to look at things in
> detail, but you'll all hear from me Real
> Soon Now...
>
> mike in Toronto
No problem.
How do we get a hold of you via email? Your old account isn't working
anymore.
----------------------------------
Hi Ernest:
Address is mhstein at canada dot com; don't know why it's not in your
original message, it is in my copy of the digest.
The Apple clone's still on the shelf with your name on it in indelible black
marker :); sorry I dropped the ball.
Decided not to keep the bio-feedback H/W & S/W, so I'll throw it in; it
also has an 80 col card AFAIK. Write me off-list & we'll work out a
reasonable price.
Thanks for your patience & understanding, although the longer it sits,
the more valuable an antique it becomes, right? :)
mike
Hey all,
I just saw an old Commodore adding machine, model 202, or something
similar, at one of the local Goodwill outlets. It was cheap, but I have
no interest in it myself. Do I need to go back tomorrow and pick it up
>from someone???? This is something I haven't seem before, and I don't
want to pass it up if someone else really wants it.
I'll do this for about $5.00 over my cost. I think the thing was
labeled at $1.99, or something similar. Shipping will probably be the
biggest cost, if I pack it well.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
--------------------Original Messages--------------------------
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:03:19 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
Subject: Re: Model 100 DVI drive
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, M H Stein wrote:
> Hi Rich:
> I can't answer your question, but I do have a DVI and the manual and s/w,
> if that can help you in any way. It runs CP/M IIRC.
> And if anybody's interested, make me an offer...
> mike in Toronto, Can.
Could you check the manual, and confirm that it runs CP/M?
All of the ones that we've ever seen ran a unique OS, with a
directory structure based on the Microsoft stand-alone-BASIC.
A CP/M for it would significantly increase the desirability of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, as I've mentioned here previously, I have some serious problems
with my memory, so my recollection is probably faulty, and I'm certainly
not about to argue with you, Fred. Alas, another aspect of this memory
problem is that I can't remember where a lot of stuff is any more (although
that's always been a problem :), so I haven't been able to find the
manual yet. I have found the DVI & boot diskette though, and after a half
hour search, the 100 and its user and tech manuals but, alas, not the
100>DVI cable. If & when I find either the DVI manual or the cable, I'll
check it out & let you know, but you're probably right.
mike
Greetings,
I am interesting in finding used IBM System 3x computers for sale. Can you
direct me to any sites or organizations?
Thanks,
Frank Butash
860-232-7173
Fax: 860-232-3037
Hi Gil:
I was wondering if you were in the market for another M14-TD. I aquired
one the other day. It is all there but quite dusty. I did find some info on
it on the web but all the ones I saw were grey. This one is black. I can
take a few pictures and send them to you. Any Idea what the age is on this
beast. By the way, I have also got to go back this spring and pick up a
bunch of other teletype stuff, such as the consol and related items.
Regards
Gary...WZ1M
I boat, therefore I follow navigation aids and GPS service interruptions
at :
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/gps/default.htm
There is an Active Notice for Cape Canaveral Area:
Cape Canaveral, FL - AFSPC 2002-236
For the Aviation Community
5 NM RADIUS OF N2828/W0835 (ORL100/042) FROM THE
SURFACE UP TO FL250.
REMARKS; INTERMITTENT DATES AND TIME; 14 DAYS
ADVANCE NOTICE WILL BE GIVEN PRIOR TO EACH EVENT.
IFR OPERATIONS BASED ON GPS NAVIGATION SHOULD
NOT BE PLANNED IN THE AFFECTED AREAS DURING THE
PERIODS INDICATED. THESE OPERATIONS INCLUDE DOMESTIC
RNAV OR LONG-RANGE NAVIGATION REQUIRING GPS. THESE
OPERATIONS ALSO INCLUDE GPS STANDALONE AND OVERLAY
INSTRUMENT APPROACH OPERATIONS.
ON THE FOLLOWING DATES AND TIMES:
REMARKS; INTERMITTENT DATES AND TIME; 14 DAYS
ADVANCE NOTICE WILL BE GIVEN PRIOR TO EACH EVENT.
Last Updated: 2002-12-23
It also Looks like they'll be testing A New Digital GPS beacon "build
out" at Angleton TX next week. I have no idea if thats a correction
beacon affecting Florida.
Sincerely
Larry Truthan