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I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi One should note that the programming of the A parts is different than the non-A parts. The manual shown has the specs for the non-A parts ( these are really rare ). Most are either 1708A, 8708A or 4708A parts that are found now days. Signal wise, I believe that the non-A and A parts are similar. They made very few of the non-A parts. Dwight >From: "Vettore Massimo MARPD EDP" <massimo.vettore(a)zf.com> > >You could find information on Intel 8702A at the IMSAI web site >http://www.imsai.net/support/support.htm >look at Intel 8080 Microcomputer Systems User's Manual part 2 >or straight >http://www.imsai.net/support/device_specs/Intel8080Manual-2.pdf >go to page 56 > >Regards >Max > >----- Original Message ----- >Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 00:51:50 -0600 >From: Alex Welti <lxwelti(a)comcast.net> >Subject: I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602 >To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >>I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my >>brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who >>has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going >>through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have >>datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A >>web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet >>or know where I should go to find one. >> >>Thanks, >>Alex

23 years, 2 months

Things FS (dec, ncd, sun, chips), and Info requested

by pat＠purdueriots.com

First, the question. Look for "SELLING" below for what I have 'for sale'. I've managed to pick up a TECMAR, Inc. "LAB TENDER COMP" card for the IBM PC (8bit ISA interface) but I don't have any docs on it. There's a total of 5 34pin headers on the card, a bunch of 7400 seris logic, an AM9513, AM8255A-5, 5xTL084CJ, 4xHEF4051BP chips, and 3x8switch dip-switches. Does anyone know what this is and/or have software/docs for it? SELLING + Digital SC008-AB, one with an "A" and one with a "B" on it, has many (maybe 20) TNC Jacks monted on it, some with 'terminators' on it. Does anyone know what this is? I'm intrigued by it. $5 each + shipping + Digital M8210 - 32kW (72bit words) MOS memory for a VAX-11/780. It's still sealed in an anti-static bag, so I assume it's in excellent condition. $5 + shipping + NCD 19c Xterminal, no cables. Uses a sync-on-green monitor, does color, has AUI/10Base2 network connectors, uses standard PS/2 style keyboard and a 9pin serial (pc-like) mouse. ** Based off of Motorola 88100 processor ** $10 + shipping + 4 x Sun SparcStation 5, 64MB RAM, CG6 framebuffer, 2GB Seagate ST32550WC hard drive. These are working, but don't have an OS installed for licensing reasons. I can install Debian Linux (base install) on them if interested (for free!). $15 each + shipping, also have some parts (lots of CG6's), email if interested. + 6 x Sun SparcStation 5 power supplies (PN 300-1215-02): ratings are +5V @ 25A, +12V @ 2.3A(Max 4A), -12V @ 0.25A max continuous 150.2W, max output <15sec 174.2W $5 each + shipping + Not really classic, but I've got a lot of RJ45->DE9-F cisco console cables, and 48VDC, 0.3A table-top 'wall wart' power supplies. I figured that they might be of some use to list readers, and wanted to do this before they go onto eBay. $5 for one + shipping, or make me an offer for >1. + VME Boards - have socketed chips that are re-usable: PE/IO: 1 x MC68881RC15A - math coprocessor 1 x MC68901P 2 x MC68230P10 - 68k 'parallel port' chip 1 x PAL16R4CN -\ 1 x PAL14L4NC --+- does anyone know if they're erasable? 1 x PAL16R6NC -/ 2 x D8293 --\ 1 x P8291A ---+-- Intel GPIB chips parallel ports: 2 x MC68230P10 n x 74LS00 series logic IC's net interface: 2 x MC68230P10 n x 74LS00 series logic IC's DMA interface: n x 74LS00 series logic IC's 68010 board: 1 x MC68010L10 4 x KM6264L-15 8k x 8 150ns SRAM 4 x M5L2764 8k x 8 EPROM 1 x 5.0688MHz oscillator 68000 board: mostly same as the 68010 board, except with MC68000P8 instead I also have a couple of prototyping (wire-wrap) VME boards. You can see everything I have at http://purdueriots.com/mvme/ including (fuzzy) pictures of the boards. I'd like to get $5 per board + shipping to recuperate my costs. I can do cheaper for large quantites. ** The CPU boards have custom-developed console 'debuggers' that use the RS-232 port on the CPU card as a console. They *require* that a PE/IO board be connected to the VME bus in order to 'initialize'. You could, of course get around this by replacing the ROMs. If (when) I get multiple offers, I'll try to choose fairly who gets the stuff, or divide it up if there's multiple people interested Thanks for listening! Pat Lafayette, IN, USA 47904 -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 2 months

MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 0:53, Tony Duell wrote: > I've had far too many problems with the normal moulded cables -- things > like marginally-rated cable (certainly not 6A), earth not properly > connected, live/neutral reversed, no strain relief, and so on that I now > refuse to use them (and am grdually replacing all the ones here). I've rarely had any problem, but then I'm generally reusing cables sthat have been tested, and tend not to exceed the ratings. > > The second version is a little larger, has the pins at right angles to > > the pins in the 10A version, and is rated 16A. > > If that's the one I think it is, it doesn't have 2 of the corners cut off > -- the connector is rectangular with rounded corners (all 4 the same). Yes, I should have mentined that. > What is the connector like the normal 'kettle plug' with round pins? I've > only ever seen it in the chassis socket/cable plug configuration. Dunno -- that might be one of the Bulgin range? Or do you mean one in which the housing also looks a bit like three cylinders welded together, instead of a rectangular block with corners cut off? That's also an IEC connector, rated 2.5A. I've seen a couple of laptop power suplies with those. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 2 months

Rainbow Enthusiasts

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

For those who have the Rainbow bug... Jeff Armstrong is putting his Rainbow site up again. The URL is http://www.classiccmp.org/rainbow Right now there is just an annoucement page, the real content should be there sometime saturday Enjoy! Jay West

23 years, 2 months

Reply to: OT: PowerBook G3 parts

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

Yep. Go to www.powerbookguy.com and browse his site. I bought several things from him when I was refurbishing the Wallstreet I was given, and he was very friendly and helpful. Paul ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS: Hello, I just got a bronze keyboard (Lombard) G3 powerbook, sans cdrom drive, battery, and AC adapter. Does anyone have parts for this machine or know of a good source to get them from? - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan

23 years, 2 months

Strainge VAXserver 2000 card?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, A strange find today, in the pile of stuff-to-figure-out. See attached pictures. Its one of those little option cards that fit in the VS2000's "pizzabox" expansion unit. I have two of these machines, both have the box. One of the machines is a VAXserver 2000 (!), and that one had this card. One single flatcable going to the machine's mainboard (connector on the side of the mainboard, above the power supply) and it has the usual DEC 3-row connector on the outside faceplate. What's this? Serial line expander of some sort? The X.25 thing I heard about? Larger pictures available at 1600x1280 and 1280x1024. Cheers, Fred [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of VS2000-OPT-1_SM.JPG] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of VS2000-OPT-2_SM.JPG]

23 years, 2 months

Your Word 4.0 for Mac disks?

by mailsend＠juno.com

"Lawrence LeMay" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>, lemay(a)cs.umn.edu SUBJECT: Your Word 4.0 for Mac disks? Dear Mr. LeMay, Do you still have the Word 4.0 for Mac available? We read your posting from 2001, May, at this URL: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2002-May/000582.html How many bucks do you want for it? We need just one set, please. We already own Word 3.0 for Mac and need this for compatibility to receive a few documents >from others for study. Thank you very much. A student Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

23 years, 2 months

OT/Admin: tags

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, Although this has come up a few times already, I am going to bring it up again. Come kick my butt if you don't like it :) Given the volume of the list, and the many off-topic (lets not discuss what is and is not on-topic here) talk, I would like to propose [again] that we do like other lists do: insert a tag [cctalk] in the Subject: line of the postings, so it's easy to distinguis the postings from other, perhaps more pressing e-mail. Selecting/filtering based on sender address doesn't work well for all clients, and depends on the ability to use processing rules in the first place. As said, most lists out there already use this technique, it's been accepted more or less as a standard, so can we *please* use something like this ? I don't want to start Yet Another Discussion, a mere vote would do, as we're all techies who know what this is about. Cheers, Fred

23 years, 2 months

Same seller, more HP stuff on ebay

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The same seller that didn't sell his HP2000 system on ebay (and relisted it), is also auctioning separately an HP3030 tape drive that appears to be in great condition cosmetically. Nice piece of history! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3400167260&category=1479

23 years, 2 months

FS: Linus write top computer

by dan.stanger＠ieee.org

It is complete with docs and carrying case. Please make a offer +shipping from Denver, CO 80222. Thanks, Dan Stanger

23 years, 2 months

386

by mhstein＠canada.com

--------------------Original Message--------------- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:53:48 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: "bluegenie" <bluegenie(a)ntlworld.com> Subject: 386 I am after some baby at 286/386/486 motherboards of size aprox 8 3/4 inches x 6 3/4 inches Can you help Graham Challis ---------------------------------------------------------- I have three, 8.7 x 6.9 inches, all with manuals (no memory or batteries): 1 x SER386-AS, 386SX33, 6x16bit ISA slots, max 16Mb 2 x UNI-386WB, 386DX40, 5x16bit+1x8bit ISA slots, max 128Mb (one with 387 coprocessor) Contact me off-list if you're interested. mike in Toronto, Canada mhstein at canada dot com ---------------------------------------- PS: Silly me; hit "send" before putting mind in gear: Although there are no batteries (to prevent leakage damage) or memory on these boards in their packages, I can certainly supply both if needed, as well as pretty well any I/O cards you might need. <Another dent in forehead from excessive smacking>

23 years, 2 months

386

by mhstein＠canada.com

23 years, 2 months

looking for a COMPUTE! issue

by writer＠halfhill.com

Charles, Yes, I believe I have a complete set of COMPUTE! back issues from the time I was there (1982-88). They are packed away in boxes. I wouldn't be willing to part with an entire issue, but I might be persuaded to find and photocopy a specific article, if somebody really wants it badly. Knowing the date of the issue would be a big help. If the goal is to find a program, not necessarily an article, I suggest looking for it on the web first. There are several web sites and groups that keep archives of programs for old computers. This would save the trouble of typing in the program listing. Tom -- Tom R. Halfhill writer(a)halfhill.com http://www.halfhill.com Charles Brannon wrote: > > Thanks for the compliment and the chuckle. Yup, I was asking my old > friend Tom Halfhill. Nice to know we still have fans out there. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Arnott [mailto:jrasite@eoni.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:55 AM > To: charles(a)brannon.com > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: looking for a COMPUTE! issue]]] > > LOL... > > Cute kid! Lisa says thanks for the pic. > > Thanks Charles. > > Warmest regards. > > Jim > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: looking for a COMPUTE! issue]] > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:28:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu> > To: jrasite(a)eoni.com > > > Well? > > ?!? You spoke to *Charles Brannon*?! He's your *nephew*?! > > Excuse me while I collect my jaw from the floor ... *click*. > > Next you're going to tell me that the "Tom" in his reply is Tom > Halfhill. :-P > > I'm after the entire magazine if I can get it (Sellam says he might have > a spare -- he's looking), but I will let you know ASAP. > > Appreciated (and rather impressed), > > -- > ----------------------------- personal page: > http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- > Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * > ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu > -- You've got to have a gimmick if your band sucks. -- Gary Giddens > ----------- > > .

23 years, 2 months

Atari ST Help

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I have my original Atari ST 512 still... It's been a trouper and I'd like to use it again.. So, I'm looking for help with the following: 1. It has an AERCO Easie-ST Ram upgrade board in it, that is no longer recognized. This board will use 1mb x 8 chips to take the system to 4mb (which is max for this machine). I lost my manual, and it isn't working anymore. I know it's a long shot, but does anyone have the manual for this, or can point me to where I can get a RAM upgrade for this old machine? 2. I'd like to throw an 80mb SCSI External drive I have on it, so I'm looking for a SCSI Adapter for an ST. $100 + s/h for a new(?) one from one of the remaining dealers is a bit steep... Does anyone know of a cheaper source for one, or have an old Atari Drive with a bad mechanism I can buy to salvage the adapter? Regards, Al Hartman P.S.: I have a paper tray for an HP IIIp printer (but not the actual mechanism to use it) if someone is still looking for one.

23 years, 2 months

OT, but couldn't resist

by mhstein＠canada.com

Couldn't resist sharing this: If Microsoft had been the first to invent books: 1. Before you can open the cover of your new book, you must obtain a book activation code by phoning Microsoft. 2. Sorry, only one person may ever read your book. 3. It's full of spelling mistakes and typos. 4. When you're reading your book, the words can mysteriously disappear. 5. Libraries, which are for sharing books, are illegal. 6. You must acknowledge you have read and understood the Book License Agreement Hype (BLAH) before you can read your book. 7. Microsoft has the right to enter your premises to conduct book inspections to make sure your book is being read in accordance with the BLAH. 8. The Book Users' Group General Alliance (BUGGA) calculates that the annual loss of revenues to Microsoft arising from BLAH violations in 2001 was $10.97 billion. 9. There are two versions of your book - the "Standard" and the "Pro" versions. In the standard version, those pages containing the most useful information have been stuck together. 10. Confidential information is inexplicably in bigger type that can be easily read by anyone glancing over your shoulder.

23 years, 2 months

Prehistoric CAD system...

by bones＠northrock.bm

In the mid-1980's I lived in Lowell, MA and my then wife (and briefly, myself) worked for a circuit board design company. Their primary CAD system was a PDP-11 based system from a company called, I believe, Telesys. It was a very good system from my recollection; it used a dual-display concept which was very efficient and had extremely good performance. The actual design consoles looked a lot like arcade video game consoles. There was a small monochrome CRT on the lower panel which displayed menus which one used a light pen to navigate through, and which was also used for drawing. One saw the results in "realtime" on the larger colour screen, all very sharp. Does anyone here have any more info on these. I do recall this being a *very* good system, but I can't find mention in my web searches. Thanks, Dennis "Come all ye roving minstrels And together we will try To raise the spirit of the Earth And move the rolling Sky"

23 years, 2 months

scanning microfiche

by norm-classiccmp＠docnorm.com

Brian Knittel and I have a few hundred fiche of IBM documentation and code relating to the 1130 (http://ibm1130.org). This is tens of thousands of pages that we'd love to get into a digital form -- in particular we want to get a few fiche done FAST because Brian borrowed them from someone else who won an interesting set at auction recently. My attempts to scan them with an Epson 2450 Photo have been unsatisfactory, apparently mostly because of slight focus issues that only become apparent at the highest resolutions, and I've started to believe that we need to use a real microfiche scanner to do the job. Unfortunately they're way expensive, and I can't think of buying one ... and service bureaus charge by the page, about $.10 per page to be exact. We need a cheaper option. So ... does anyone know of a fiche scanner that occasionally sits unused, that we could use? Or, does anyone have any better ideas? Thanks, Norm Aleks

23 years, 2 months

6502 fans - the SBC-2 is about to have another run - order boards now!

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

For those who haven't been to http://65c02.tripod.com/ , the SBC-2 is a single-board 6502 with the following onboard: > > BTW, I haven't ordered parts yet (been swamped with stuff since I got > > laid off). The 6502 board I was mentioning is called the SBC-2. It's > > home is http://65c02.tripod.com/home.html I've been talking to Daryl > > and he has interest for 3 at the moment (including my 2, I think). If > > I haven't mentioned it to you, one of my goals is to hook a G321D LCD > > display to the SBC-2 and use it as a VT52 emulator for the SBC6120. > > Both are 100% CMOS. The G321D needs -24VDC, so I'll probably go with > > the DC-DC converter recommended by one of the project pages and use > > that to drive everything. It kicks out 3A @ +5VDC plus enough -24VDC > > to drive the G321D. Should run a flash card or a 2.5" IDE drive, too.

23 years, 2 months

Is there such a thing as a ZIF socket for PLCC chips?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Something like a prebuilt 32-pin DIP -> 32-pin PLCC adapter wired 1:1 at http://www.emulation.com lists for $110. P/N AS-32-32-01P-3YAM-LN on their webstie. You can get PLCC ZIF sockets from http://www.arieselec.com One of their products is a universal 20-pin to 84-pin PLCC ZIF socket, P/N 84-537-21, which goes for $150 at http://www.mouser.com (plus $12 each for the various sized inserts). >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Is there such a thing as a ZIF socket for PLCC chips? >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:49:01 -0800 (PST) > >I am needing to burn PLCC-packaged chips in my DIP programmer. I >expect I need to locate a PLCC<->DIP adapter of the right size >(for 29C010 and 28F101 Flash chips, at the moment). Thinking about it >made me wonder if any of the sockets were ZIF or LIF. > >Any ideas? Any recommendation on a source for adapters? > >Thanks, > >-ethan

23 years, 2 months

I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602

by massimo.vettore＠zf.com

You could find information on Intel 8702A at the IMSAI web site http://www.imsai.net/support/support.htm look at Intel 8080 Microcomputer Systems User's Manual part 2 or straight http://www.imsai.net/support/device_specs/Intel8080Manual-2.pdf go to page 56 Regards Max ----- Original Message ----- Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 00:51:50 -0600 From: Alex Welti <lxwelti(a)comcast.net> Subject: I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602 To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my >brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who >has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going >through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have >datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A >web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet >or know where I should go to find one. > >Thanks, >Alex

23 years, 2 months

Data Conversion, Inc DT2861-60Hz available

by red＠bears.org

I have in my grubby paws a Data Conversion, Inc. ISA boardset that anybody on the list may have for 1.2x the cost of shipping it. Model DT2861-60Hz, plus unknown model daughterboard with a bunch of memory on, plus DT2878-4 with TI DSP on. Board has DA-15M and DE-9M connectors. It is surplus from Boeing, in Kent, WA. The manufacturer is still in business and probably will still send you software, though the option isn't there on their website. http://www.datx.com I'm throwing the boards away if nobody takes them. ok r.

23 years, 2 months

scanning microfiche

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I own a scanner capable of scanning 'fiche... It scans up to 19,200dpi.. The problem is that it is on the second floor of the building my work is in, and it weighs 1,450 pounds or so... It also needs a new optical drive. Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 2 months

Gathering Classic Computer Info

by patrick＠evocative.com

Judging from the level of disagreement on many recent topics, it appears that we all need a distraction! :-) I would like to solicit your help. As part of my research for a project that will benefit this Classic Computer Community, I am trying to assemble an exhaustive database of companies who manufactured what is now classic computer hardware and software. For the moment, I am focusing only on hardware. Software will be the next project. I am seeking to bring together a small part of your collective knowledge and expertise. I have built a simple web page that will collect the names of manufacturers and products. Please go to http://gatekeeper.evocative.com:8080/research and dump your brain! All manufacturers and products are fair game, and in fact, the more obscure the better. Please accept my apologies in advance for the simplistic (crude) interface, but this is simply a data collection exercise and I did not waste much time on flourish. When the project is complete, this data will be cleaned up and made available to anyone who cares to have it. This data will not be sold, it will be free. The site does not collect any personal information; your submissions are completely anonymous. Thanks in advance for your help! Patrick KIM-1 * North Star Horizon * Heath ET-3400 * Rockwell AIM-65 * Heath/Zenith H/Z-88/9 P.S. I'm sure I've missed a plethora of categories; please email me your suggestions using the link on that page.

23 years, 2 months

Request for help with a PDP 11/73

by chu＠verizon.net

I just bought a PDP 11/73, but unfortunately UPS dropped it on the way. So I am trying to what ever documentation and diagnostics that I can locate to figure out how badly it was damaged. The mounts for the tape drive and disk drive were broken as well as all of the external plastic. The machine powers up and goes through some self diagnostics, stopping with the LED's reading "01". The disk drive stays quite and unlit, my conclusion was that it appears dead. I am looking for any help that I can get. TIA, Dave Chu

23 years, 2 months

AU subscribers Newsletter (fwd again) (fwd)

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I got this message on one of the Commodore mailing lists. This may arrive too late, but may be of (significant) interest to Commodore and Amiga folks. Hello, Commodorians, The following has not been verified yet, but it seems that Centsible Software, the largest vendor of C= and Amiga software, might be the target of an unfriendly buy-out, unfriendly meaning that the new owner has no concern for the C=/Ami community. Read on and decide, Robert Bernardo Fresno Commodore User Group http://videocam.net.au/fcug ====================================================================== ________ _________ ____ _|__ __ __|_______ _________ __\ _____ \\\\ \_ _/ //___// _____//______\ _____ \\ // \\\\ /. \\\\__ \/ __// \\ \\____. /// \\\\ /. \\ \\___\O /___///___\ /___\ \\_________//\\___\O /___// O \/ O O \/. |O O|z!o O O \/ O A M I G A | 030204 | U P D A T E |________| "SO THE WORLD MAY KNOW" ====================================================================== AMIGA and the Amiga logo are trademarks of Amiga, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T H E L P R E Q U E S T C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T U P D A T E Editor's Thoughts and Introduction: We received the following notes from Bill Griffin too late to include in the last issue. As a well known member of the Amiga community, we would have included at least the first note in the issue had we seen it in time. We are treating this as a news item, not as an endorsement on our part of Bill's requests. If you choose to participate, it is your decision and at your own risk, as is the case in any business arangement. We have carried offers from Amiga Inc. as part of news stories, and similarly for other companies as part of news stories. The situation at Centsible is certainly newsworthy, so news this is. Since one of the founding principles of Amiga Update is to get news out when it's fresh, not necessarily on a regular schedule, we are providing this information while it's new and still relevant to the community. Best of luck to all concerned!! Brad Webb, Editor =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T H E L P R E Q U E S T 2 Feb 2003 I'm sorry I'm contacting you after you have already put out the AU newsletter, but I am in desperate needof help from our Amiga Brethern. AS you know, I am the publisher of "the NEW AMIGANS" magazine. What you might not know is that I am also working at Centsible software part-time. I was recently informed by Scott (the owner) that another party has made an offer for the company. At first, I thought I would simply have to contact them and get new advertising set up. But I found out just Thursday that the other party intends to dissolve the company and sell off the inventory on ebay "a little at a time" over the course of several years. Now Centsible is the only remaining source (as far as I know) for several of the custom chips that are needed to maintain our Amigas (as well as for C64s and C128s). If the other party takes the inventory, and one of our computers break down, we may be SOL on getting them repaired (unless the chips needed JUST HAPPEN to be on ebay at that moment). Scott told me that if I can match their offer of $2,000 down and $2,000 on delivery of inventory, he would finance the rest of the buyout (at 0% interest). Now I can scrape together about $1,000. But that would be needed for opening the new store location (rent, utilities, phones, etc). I have a person who is offering the loan me $2,000 but it will take time to get the money out of his investments for me to use. Scott has told me that whoever gets the first $2,000 to him gets the company. I have already put out a plea to as many Amigans as I have email addresses. And have been able to raise just under $1,000. I know you can reach many more Amigans than I have addresses for. Could you PLEASE rebroadcast this emergeny plea ASAP. For the contributors I have the following proposal: There are several fully functional computers in this inventory. I am willing to offer choice of those units (I would need at least one to run the business, but the rest would be up for grabs) to anyone who contributes more than $100 or so (on a first donated, first to choose basis). For the $50 and up crowd, I would also include the A500s (I know of at least 5) and some software to make it a bit fairer. If the computer you like isn't available by the time the order works down to you, I would offer store credit (possibly in the form of 125% or so - of what you contributed, or a repayment of 110% of what you contributed over the course of a year (much better than the stcok funds are now offering). Any contributions under $50.00 (I'm open to all Amigans - my finances are tight now too). I would offer the store credit (of 125% of their investment) or 110% repayment at the end of the first year (so I don't have to write out so many checks each month). I ask those who are interested to contribute via PayPal (simply because it is the fastest way to get the money to me - and its a case of who has the money in hand first that counts on this deal). If anyone wants to send a check I would need it here via overnight in order to ensure I have the money before the other person does. And, of course, if I lose the purchase, I will immediately refund any and all contributions sent. My main purpose here is to prevent our Amiga resources from dwindling down much further until the new Amigas can take a toe-hold. To make your paypal contributions (of ANY size) simply go to the paypal website and click on send money. Use my email address (wd8izh(a)beanstalk.net) in the "Pay To:" section and follow the rest ofthe instructions. PLEASE don't let this important parts and software resource die. Help me maintain the integrity of the dealership know as Centsible Software. Finally, because the other party is NOT and Amiga user, BUT DOES auction Amiga stuff, I have reason to believe that he follows the Amiga News Groups. Sinsce I don't want to end up lossing the company to a "bidding war" I ask that nobody place this on an NG. But PLEASE forward it to EVERY Amigan and C64/c128 user you know. Thank you --------- Its gonna be a heck of a century! Bill Griffin, G&G Publishing Enterprises Home of "the NEW AMIGANS" magazine Ask about our new, US-based, Amiga Magazine Or check out our website at http://get.to/t.n.a .. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T U P D A T E 3 Feb 2003 So far we have raise only $700 of what is needed for the downpayment on Centsible. I have found an investor who can get another $2,000 to me in about 2 weeks. Scott has now told me that He will not be making any calls to the other party to get money from them until the weather clears. Which he doesn't see hapening for at least a week. However, if the other party send the money to secure the deal (on their own) Scott will be obligated to honor the deal and we will lose Centsible Software forever. This affords us a SLIGHT chance to finish up the job and save Centsible Software. It also means that those of you out there who want to help, but don't have credit cards (or who don't want to go through PayPal) have a chance to get in on this deal. I have enough time (barely) to accept contributions via mail. I will simply hold the checks (uncashed) until I either get enough to complete the deal, or the other party gets their money in first. If that happens, I simply send back the uncashed checks. This way, if any of you have interest earning checking, you won't even lose the interest on your money. Again, I am willing to accept help in any dollar amount and all the terms I stated in my proposal apply. I only ask that, if you send help via the post office, you email me and let me know it as well. To send your help via mail, send it to: Bill Griffin PO Box 447 Edwardsburg, MI 49112-0447 And put the words "Centsible Buyout" on the memo line. PLEASE rebroadcast and forward to as many Amiga and C64 enthusiasts as you possibly can. And thank you, in advance, for all your help. ------------ Its gonna be a heck of a century! Bill Griffin, G&G Publishing Enterprises Home of "the NEW AMIGANS" magazine Ask about our new, US-based, Amiga Magazine Or check out our website at http://get.to/t.n.a .. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Amiga Update on the net: All back issues available at: http://www.globaldialog.com/~amigaupdate/index.html Stop by and check out our archive! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 2003 by Brad Webb. Freely distributable, if not modified. ====================================================================== _ __ _ <>_ __ _ A M I G A /\\ |\ /|| || / ` /\\ A M I G A U P D A T E /__\\ | \ / || || || ___ /__\\ U P D A T E / \\_ | \/ ||_ _||_ \__// / \\_ amigaupdate(a)globaldialog.com -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- I can't walk a mile in their shoes. 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