Anybody have any interest in a VaxStation 3000?
Looks clean, no monitor or kbd.
BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a
Vaxstation video connector?
Regards,
George
Here's the guy in India again. I doubt anyone will jump on this offer,
especially after Lawson's incredible tale of Indian customs malfeasance,
but if you do get it, I'm sure it'll make for a very entertaining story.
Reply-to: rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:23:15 +0530
From: rajatkakkar <rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com>
To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
Subject: Re: HP 7970 E spool disk drive
Respected Sir / Madam,
I want to sell the HP 7970 E spool disk drive, as I am not putting it to
any use.
Hence, please guide me regarding the web-sites through whom I can sell or
even donate it to
a person / organisation where it should be put to some good use.
Regards
Rajat Kakkar
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Hi,
A long time ago, Frank McDonnel wrote:
> For 7980s, 1600 and 6250 are standard and 800 is an option.
> 7980A is HP-IB, 7980S is SCSI (single-ended). There's also
> an "XC" option which does in-the-drive compression on 6250BPI
> tapes; I think this option does not coexist with the 800BPI
> option.
I have one of these drives, and am very happy with it. It would
be even better if I had a manual :)
But, seriously. I am (desperately :) looking for this 800bpi
module for the drive; I have the XC option which I'm willing to
remove in favor of the 800bpi module.
Does anyone here have an option part number, or, even better, the
option itself ?
*help* [squeeky-voice scream]
--fred
> There is a Hobbyist License in the works that would allow
> certain versions of the OS's that Mentec has to be run on
> real hardware.
Right.
> Some unfortunate circumstances have held it up though.
Ahh, what excuses do they (Mentec) claim these days, then?
--fred
Henk wrote:
> From an 11/05 pocket guide I know that there exist 3 different
> versions of the 11/10 backplane with distinct differences as to
> in which slots the boards go!
> Sorry, can't be of more help (yet), because I do not have a copy
> of that 11/10 pocket guide booklet.
I actually saw that guide today. The main difference is the amount
of core memory the backplane will support, and, hence, the backplane
slot layout for the system. It is VERY important to know which kind
of backplane you have, otherwise, damage to the boards WILL occur !
You can just slide out the backplane from the cage, and read the ID
on the sticker.
--fred
> > BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a
> > Vaxstation video connector?
I was able to dump all DEC single-frequency tubes by getting
some IDEK (Iiyama) 17" color monitors which have both VGA and
BNC (3 and 5, SOG supported) ports. Excellent picture, including
GPX/SPX/SPX+ and the PMAG cards!
--f
Forgot a couple of steps.
> to a BNC to HD15M cable
to a HD15F/HD15F gender changer
to a HD15M to BNC video cable
> to a SONY 5 BNC Multisync Monitor
At 02:09 PM 2/14/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a
> > Vaxstation video connector?
>
>
>I've done it, for testing purposes. IIRC, I used the DEC cable which
>ended in BNC, joined, by using BNC/BNC straight adapters, to a
>BNC to HD15 cable, to a SONY 5 BNC Multisync Monitor ( Sony,
>Radius, Rasterops, HP branded ? whichever is handy at the time).
>Probably only hooked R,G, and B though. The Sonys can accept
>separate sync ( all 5 BNC's connected ), composite sync ( 4 BNC's
>connected ), and sync on green ( 3 BNC's connected ), and will
>autosense and autoswitch to the correct sync type. Never took it all
>the way to a GUI though. Just wanted to get a text screen to make
>sure the box was alive.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 06:51 PM 2/14/03 +0000, you wrote:
>>Anybody have any interest in a VaxStation 3000?
>>Looks clean, no monitor or kbd.
>>
>>BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a
>>Vaxstation video connector?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>George
Hello,
Today a friend of mine acquired a pdp-11/05 from our school's
engineering department. Unfortunately, it isn't in too good shape.
Fortunately for him, I've spent the last three years restoring
(sucessfully!) a pdp-11/45. So I offered to help. However, this machine
is somewhat of a different animal, so questions:
Could someone scan the engineering drawings for an H217C stack?
This is partly for my own edification (I have one such board in my
machine), and partly because of the fact that this "new" pdp-11/05 has no
core with it. Its engineering drawings seem to indicate that it wants
4 or 8kW of core (one or more of H213-H216), *not* the 16kW of a H217.
(Granted, by placing two H214s into a chassis we get 16kW, but I
digress.)
That would have been enough to shut me up, but I looked a little further.
It appears that the H213 (4kW) stack is a proper subset of the H214 (8kW)
stack. The schematics appear to indicate that the H214 has all of
the lines, bus connections, etc. as the H213, plus a few more. Indeed, it
appears that if I were to place an H214 in the machine, but tell it that
it was an H213, it would be fine (and see 4kW of course). Am I right?
If so, the next question is, can I do this with an H217? (Drop in an
H217C, and tell the machine that it's really an H214/H215.) This might
sound like a gratuitous waste of core, which it is, but I happen to have
another core board (not in my machine) that could be used... So anyway,
the engineering drawings would answer this question really fast.
If not, I guess we'll be looking for an H213-H216... :)
Thanks,
Michael Robinson
RPI Electronics Club Vaxherd/PDP-11 Fixer
robinm(a)rpi.edu
As Guy said:
> It's not so much the drawings but the wirelist for the backplane.
> You really need to know which backplane you have.
That is very true!
I appreciate having the scans of the Documation M200 punch card reader
manual available online thanks to David Gesswein, but it just doesn't
compare to having the original manual in your hands.
If anyone has a copy of the original manual and would like to trade,
please e-mail me directly. Thanks!
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>From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
>
>> > A segmented architecture...
>
>> I have one word to say about segmented architecture... "Ewwwww"
>
>:) I like segmented systems. It's one of the best concepts for
>address space extension. Ok, I also think that the 8086 is one
>of the best 16 Bit CPUs (*1) ever, and as the 186 core at the
>top of their evolution.
>
>Gruss
>H.
>
>(*1) There are other great ones, like the 9900.
Hi Hans
Then you'll love the Z8000. Its segments are non-overlapping
( unless a mmu makes them so ).
I like the 186 myself but have to admit that the time for
segmented memory has passed, in general purpose computing.
Dwight
Dear Sir,
Greetings form Geolab! We are formed in 1991 as an independent
multi-discplinary Geotechnical, Environmental and Construction Materials
Service firm providing engineering and scientific consulting, subsurface
exploration and testing services to both public and private sector clients.
At this moment, we are using Gridcase 1530 (386) for the purpose of doing our
Pile Drive Analysis Test (PDA Test). Due to this computer is an old unit, we
frequently facing problem that bother us once we turn on the computer. The
monitor always promp the error as stated below:
"Invalid configuration Information : Code 02
Strike F1 key to continue"
However, once we strike the F1 key, another error will occur named, Disk Boot
Errores.
We really appreciate if you can help us out in this matter as soon as
possible, this computer is really valuable for our department. We hope to hear
>from you soon.
Thank you for your kind attention.
Regards,
Ricky
Engineer
ligkig(a)hotmail.com
cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 12.02.2003:
>----------<snip>-----------
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:05:43 -0600 (CST)
>From: <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu>
>To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: DEC xx2247 keys
>Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>
>I bought a xx2247 key from ebay. Just in case others are planning to do the
>same, the key appears to be an almost brand new copy. There is a *slight*
>amount of rust in the areas that were cut away, but other than that it is
>nice shiny new chrome.
>
>I purchased mine for the starting bid of $10, but they then charged me $10
>more for shipping (actual shipping was $4.30), making for an expensive key.
Thats a general problem on Ebay, seller tend to cover their listing-costs into
the "shipping" or "handling" fees they charge. Your only chance to make this
clear is a mail to the seller on this before you bid. Make clear that you will
only bid if the seller follows the rates of e.g. USPS or some other
shippingcompany. Then you have the choice to take or to leave it.
>I called the local locksmith and they will duplicate this type of key for
>$6 each. The other thing to note is that the key I obtained from Ebay auction
>is stamped Do Not Duplicate, which the original DEC keys (I have 2) do not say.
>
>I figure they had a original copied a few years back, and added the Do Not
>Duplicate just in case a customer needed more than 1 key, so they would
>have to pay through the nose for it.
On my PDP8E I have a similar key, also having this text. Thatone is original
however. So there seems to be both versions to be around.
>
>Now I see they have the starting bid boosted to $25, for a non-original
>duplicate key, what a load of...
That way too expensive, hope they don't sell it and come back on the carpet.
>
>PS: I happen to have the locking mechanism disconnected from a PDP 8/E
>power supply, and before i reinstall it, i plan to bring it and the keys
>to that locksmith so i can have some cheaper, 'working' copies of the
>key made. I like having a key sitting in the lock ready to turn. If others
>need a key, let me know and i'm sure I can get you one for a lot less
>than that ebay guy.
Nice offer!
Frank
On Feb 12, 15:05, <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote:
> I bought a xx2247 key from ebay. Just in case others are planning to
do the
> same, the key appears to be an almost brand new copy. There is a
*slight*
> amount of rust in the areas that were cut away, but other than that
it is
> nice shiny new chrome.
>
> I purchased mine for the starting bid of $10, but they then charged
me $10
> more for shipping (actual shipping was $4.30), making for an
expensive key.
> I called the local locksmith and they will duplicate this type of key
for
> $6 each.
My local keycutting shop cut a copy for just a little less than that.
The key style is quite standard. The trick, of course, is getting the
first one :-) If anyone in the UK needs one, I can get them cut.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>I kind of hate to ship off my hard found, and not likely to find many more
>IMB drives, anything else yall can think of I could safely offer this
>person for his kaypro? Any old full height 360k drive perhaps?
I have some half height 5.25 360K drives. They are working pulls from PC
clones. I don't think I have any full height ones. Some (most?) are
black, and many have that little imprinted asterick that designated the
360K "B" drive as opposed to the 1.2MB "A" drive.
I don't know if these are IBM branded drives however, as many were
probably NOT pulled from actual IBM PCs (some might have been).
If you want one, just let me know.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 12.02.2003:
>
>----------<snip>-----------
>Message: 6
>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:53:21 -0800
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
>Subject: IBM drives in a Kaypro
>Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>
>I got this message from a guy today, and I am just wondering if he is
>correct, will the IBM drives work in the Kaypro?
>
>5.25" full-height, 360 KB floppy drives
>(the big black ones)? Do they work?
>I'd be able to use them to restore a pair of old Kaypro computers that use
>these drives. The "B" drive on each Kaypro appears to
>be shot.
>----------<snip>-----------
>
Hi,
I have one or two Teac FD50A floppy drives around that I dont need.
Contact me per PM if you are interested.
Frank
Because of a peculiarity in the Kaypro format (Fred Cisin has gone over this
before, but I don't have the details at hand), you must format the Kaypro
disk on your target PC for it to work. This formatting can be done on a PC
with programs such as Xenocopy, MediaMaster, Convert. The disk formated on
the PC can then be used in the Kaypro. You can copy files from native Kaypro
disks to this disk, then read it in the PC with the software.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike van Bokhoven [mailto:mike@ambientdesign.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:03 AM
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Kaypro II
<snip>
- Does anyone know if it's possible to write Kaypro disks with a PC and 5
1/4 inch drive? If not - any hints on where to dig up software?
<snip>
Mike.
"Andrew Strouse" <kittstr(a)access-4-free.com> wrote:
>Hi, I seem to remember reading in popular electronics, about software that
>would let you use a vcr to backup your computer. I think it was about 10
>years ago. Does anyone remember or know anything about this. My searches on
>google have turned up nothing. Thanks for any help you can provide!
>
>Andrew Strouse
>
There was also a hardware/software solution for the Amiga platform, found on Aminet in the disk/bakup dir, VBackup016.lha.
"Some days ago I got a message from the german distributor of the "VideoBackupSystem" (Performance Peripherals Europe). They told me, that they think, VBackup looks so similar to the VBS (especialy due to the usage of the same hardware) that VBackup is a violation of the VBS copyright."
I may have the older file that has the schematics & software still archived somewhere.
--
Bob Mason
2x Amiga 500's, GVP A530 (40mhz 68030/68882, 8meg Fast, SCSI), 1.3/3.1, 2meg Chip, full ECS chipset, EZ135, 1084S, big harddrives, 2.2xCD
Gateway Performance 500 Piece 'o Crap, 'ME, 128meg, 20Gig & 40Gig, flatbed.
Heathkit H-89A, 64K RAM, hard and soft-sectored floppies, SigmaSoft and Systems 256K RAM Drive/Print Spooler/Graphics board HDOS 2 & CP/M 2.2.03/2.2.04
> > My local keycutting shop cut a copy for just a little less than
that.
> > The key style is quite standard. The trick, of course, is getting
the
> > first one :-)
>
> Not really... the point of the XX2247 is that a full-service
locksmith
> should be able to cross-reference that to a set of key depths,
Finding a good locksmith who can do that isn't all that easy over here.
> Another word to the wise on DEC keys - if you have a newer PDP-11
> (11/24, for example) or a newer keyed VAX (like my 8200) with the
> *plastic* lock body - there are no tumblers. A key blank will
> operate your machine - DEC shipped an orangish-red plastic key
> with those systems, but the older keys (or a blank) will turn the
> lock.
The plastic keys are actually a slightly different size. All the ones
I've seen are beige plastic (but they may be slightly later, mostly
>from Alphas).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
All,
Doc writes:
> I have a couple of DEC Wide-FWD conversion modules. P/N DWZZA-VA
> Look 'em up, and if that fits your bill, I'll send you one for
> shipping costs.
I looked at the DEC StorageWorks documentation, and it seems that I
will need the following:
:: DWZZB is a Fast Wide Differential to Fast Wide Single-Ended SCSI
:: bus extender and signal converter. It is 8 or 16 bit Fast Wide
:: Differential SCSI on one side and an 8 or 16 bit single-ended
:: SCSI on the other side. DWZZB is SCSI-3 (ANSI X3T9.2-10R3)
:: compliant, can handle data rates up to 20 (16-bit) MB per second,
:: and operates transparently to SCSI bus. The product fully supports
:: all the latest SCSI-3 bus phases as well as all earlier standard
:: SCSI compatible implementations, back to SASI.
::
:: DWZZB is bi-directional in operation and can be cascaded. A
:: maximum of two can be attached to a bus in a series. Termination
:: on the single-ended side is user selectable. The 16-bit fast wide
:: differential side features user removable resistors. DWZZB handles
:: the more powerful 16-bit SCSI buses as well as 8-bit buses and
:: handles data rates up to 20 MB per second on Fast SCSI. It is
:: fully compatible with 2- to 5 MB per second data rates of earlier
:: SCSI interconnects. It extends SCSI buses from 3 or 6 meters to 25
:: meters using synchronous transfers.
::
:: DWZZB can be used to connect the widening range of available
:: differential SCSI storage devices and subsystems to single-ended
:: hosts. No changes are required to existing devices or software;
:: the DWZZB does not occupy a SCSI bus node
According to the document, I'd need the
:: DWZZB-AA Standalone Product-includes built-in universal power
:: supply for general purpose SCSI bus length and signal
:: conversion needs, can be used with any SCSI-2
:: compatible device.
or the
:: DWZZB-MA Module for OEM use-includes basic module that operates
:: at 20 MB per second and is fully ANSI compliant for
:: embedded applications (power suppler and packaging to
:: be ordered separately by OEM or system integrator).
Does anyone have some of these available?
Thanks bunches,
Fred
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Okay cool find for the day.
I just got myself an Indigo2 R8000.
and the cool thing is I actually got a copy of IRIX 6.5 with it, I now
have IRIX media Yay!
it also has another network card installed in the machine, plus some
video capture board, but unfortunately with out the breakout box.
at present just installing Irix on this machine, as the original
install had /usr as a NFS share..
anyway a nice machine to add to my collection of way too much stuff.
(already been told off from the significant other about it ;) )
- -----------------
I saw two shooting stars last night
I wished on them but they were only satellites
Is it wrong to wish on space hardware?
I wish, I wish, I wish you'd care
Billy Bragg 1983
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I have a bunch of old Sun tapes I need to get rid of, as I no longer run
any Sun-3 or Sun-4 machines. Most of these are real Sun distributions
(although they look cheesy) of SunOS 4.1 and 4.1.1, plus SunLink and
Openwindows. There also might be some third party stuff. I think all of
these tapes actually have data on them, but I no longer have a suitable
tape drive to verify them (so maybe expect a few to be flakey).
Anyone need these tapes (about 13 1/4" QIC-24, I
think) for cheap? For the lot - $8 plus shipping for 10512?
I thik I also have quite a few unused 1/4" tape carts, also cheap. Real
cheap.
Contact me off list...
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
On Feb 13, 9:37, John Allain wrote:
> > The plastic keys are actually a slightly different size. All the
> > ones I've seen are beige plastic (but they may be slightly
> > later, mostly from Alphas).
>
> For reference I have two DEC plastic keys here:
> 1217119-01 grey marked "'digital' and 'Anti Static'
> 1217606-0-0 blue marked "'digital' and 'REMOTE'
>
> the keying part is just a single tooth on a 1cm cylinder.
>
> The first is for BA213,BA215 cabinets (at least),
> they work in pre-alpha uVIII's.
> The blue key is for other purposes I don't know of yet.
The first is what fits my 11/24. Mine say "Anti Static" too.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
All,
Now that I inherited a nice set of StorageWorks enclusures with
an HSZ40C controller, I might as well use it, no? I plan on
connecting it to the primary file server of my "fun" network
(also known as VAXlab, aka pdp11.nl) so I'll have more (and safer)
storage there.
Only prob is.. the HSZ40C has a diff-scsi port, whereas the machines
have SE.
Is this easily converted with a cable, or will I be doing resistor-
balancing and/or use a signal converter box?
Thx,
Fred