> From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Al Hartman wrote:
> > I always preferred Tandon TM-100 drives. They
> > needed a lot less service and maintenance than
> > the SA400's did.
> > And I always liked having the extra 5 tracks.
>
> I agree
> I really like those drives. The pins that hinge the
> doors don't hold up well to the abuse of a college
> lab (unless you catch the culprits and break their
> fingers), but without that abuse, they hold up very
> well.
Oh Man! I forgot ALL about that...
I found it wasn't the pins themselves, it was the
plastic hinges in the doors.
A friend used to keep the broken ones after we'd
replace them (I worked for a company that serviced
these drives.. Cleaned, re-aligned, repaired.
refurbished them...), and refurbish them for his
personal drives with metal hinges.
> > Boy, those were the days...
>
> They sure were. (except for some of the politics
> :-)
I must have somewhere all sorts of patched OS'es for
my old Model I. DoubleDOS, TrsDOS, NewDOS 2.1,
NewDOS/80, LDOS, VTOS, DosPLUS, the list goes on and
on...
I used NewDOS/80 for most things, followed by
Multi-DOS.
I have here a Percom flippy drive. It was a Wangtek
mechanism (I think) that had write protect, and sector
hole sensors on both sides of the drive, so you could
write to both sides of a disk without punching holes.
I got rather good at that, and used to sell home-made
kits for people to punch their own disks. As well as
installing Electric Pencil Lowercase Mods into Model I
Keyboards.
Micros back then were more like cars. You could
customize them heavily. Only now with all these
case-mods and cooling options are we getting back into
what used to be fun about being a Computer Hobbyist.
All things come around in a circle I guess...
My Model I was stolen from my apt twice, and I
recovered it twice because it was instantly
recognizable as mine. A local Model I guru knew my
machine and when it came in to him for service by the
kid who bought it out of the trunk of a car, he called
me and the police.
The kid complained he was out his $100.00 and wanted
it back from me. But, I felt... You buy stolen
equipment, you take your chances...
I didn't press charges when I got the machine back
though.
The first time it was stolen, the guy realized that
nobody would buy it from him, it was so custom.. So he
tried to ransom it back to me.
I said sure...
His ransom payment was me, and 5 friends with baseball
bats.
The police were stunned that I recovered the system
twice.
Those REALLY were the days...
*sigh!*
Regards,
Al
P.S.: though not booted in several years, my Model I
(which just turned 24 yo) is sitting a foot away from
me on a desk. I should hook it all up and give it a
boot for old times sake.
cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 23.02.2003:
----------<snip>-----------
From: Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com>
Subject: M9312 Bootstrap Questions
>
>First, I'm confused about what version of the module I have. My 11/34 user's
>manual (EK-11034-UG-001 '77) talks about a -YA, -YB, and -YF version of the
>board.
>
I also always wondered about this, and never found any clues. But don't bother,
its not very important. Those variation-codes just describe the situation of
the module at the time the first customer took them from the box, soon as you
change a prom or switch, its something else...
So just run the 9312 diagnostic from XXDP, it will print a nice summary for you
how the unit is momentarely configured and what its capabilities are. It will
also certify correct operation of your M9312 on top of that.
I hope you can boot anything else, do you have a DL11-W? You could use this
with a PeeCee emulated TU58 for diagnostics ect. If you need the Boot-prom for
TU58 write me off-list.
>My M9312 has no -Yx designator and has only one bootstrap ROM installed
>(756A9 for RK03/05/05J or TU55/56). The M9312 manual seems to make the most
>sense in this case, so I've been believing its side of the story. However,
>the DIP switch settings on my M9312 have me puzzled. Here they are:
>
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
> ON ON ON OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF ON ON
>
>This doesn't correspond to anything in either manual! According to the
>manual I'm trusting, this says to start executing at 765406 (in the console
>emulator ROM). It needs to be 765020 (with diags) or 765144 (without diags).
>
>Supposedly, the machine was functional when it was decommed, so my first
>instinct is to assume I am (or the docs are) wrong somewhere. However, its
>previous owner (another collector) was not able **IIRC** to get a register
>printout at power-up. So maybe the DIP switch is pointing to someplace that
>isn't a valid entry point. I don't have access to the complete M9312 print
>set, which would list the ROM contents.
>
>Should I reset the DIP switch to say 765020?
>
That depends on the physical socket-location where the 756A9 is plugged into.
Alternatively, you could use 773000 that will give you console-odt from where
you can interactively select the boot you desire.
Hope you get it to work,
Frank Arnold
Sellam,
You have it reversed again...
The only reason Cuba has economic sanctions is because
Castro refuses to step down, and allow the Democratic
Government that his people want.
Also, that Cuba supports and funds a lot of South
American Terrorism.
Just like Iraq, it is totally in Castro's power to
make life better for his people. Just step down and
let them vote for a new leader.
Again, you blame police for the crime, rather than the
criminals.
> Actually, the only reason Cuba is worse off with
> Castro is because the US continues to economically
> sanction Cuba because our government doesn't agree
> with Castro's politics.
>
> I'm not saying everything the US does is stupid, but
> a lot of the things that the US does is stupid.
I would agree with that, but this isn't one of them.
Personally, I would like to see the sanctions lifted
as they don't seem to make a difference to Castro. He
is determined to stay in power anyway.
The only good thing is he will probably be too sick to
lead, or dead within 10 years, and probably at that
point the sanctions will be lifted.
A lot of mistakes were made in the U.S.'s policies
towards Cuba. And its' handling of the situation. No
doubt about that.
But hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.
Al
> And you are also one of the people who think America
> is the one who should make the rules for everyone.
> *sigh* *shakes head*
>
> This country does many things of which I am ashamed.
> Anyone whose told me otherwise have never come up
> with any proof.
>
> Peace... Sridhar
Based on the off-list conversation we had, it's much
more likely you decided not to listen to the proof...
I've never said the the U.S.A. should make the rules.
But, how can you quibble with the concept that it's
wrong for a county to attack it's neighbors, or to
build up offensive weapons?
Or, to defy the United Nations when they order you to
disarm?
The only way the U.S. figures into all of this, is
that it has the backbone that the U.N. does not have.
The backbone to back up it's own resolutions.
It's the same in international affairs, personal
affairs and in raising children...
When you make a threat, or set a condition upon
behavior, you have to follow through with the penalty
when the wrong behavior happens. Otherwise, you teach
that person (and others) that rules, threats and
responsibility are meaningless...
Nobody wants war, but in case such as this... This war
will prevent the deaths of millions. Not only by Iraq
and Hussein, but by others in the future who will take
this example to embolden themselves to do evil without
fear of retribution.
The penalty for breaking laws and rules must be swift
and predictable. That's the only way for there to be a
deterrent.
Saddam Hussein can avoid the war in a minute. He
simply can abide by the U.N. agreements, disarm
himself of the illegal weapons and technology, and
dedicate himself to making a good life for his
countrie's citizens.
He would have the added benefit of having the embargo
for sale of his oil lifted upon full compliance and
good behavior.
It's much more in his interest to do that, than the
course that he has chosen.
How can anyone disagree that what he is doing is sheer
madness? The guy can't live without fear of
assasination...
His life must be desperate and awful. And all by his
own choice...
Putting attention on the U.S. or President Bush is
wrong. That's focusing on the wrong end of the
situation.
Why aren't there protests calling for all police
forces to be disbanded? Using the same arguments that
people are using against this war, if the police
didn't carry guns or shoot criminals committing acts
of crime, why... There'd be a lot less death in the
world.
Just let the criminals alone....
In fact, how wonderful would it be for all the prisons
to be empty, and the courts to have nothing to do...
It's all the fault of those crazy police who capture
criminals for the fun of it. Because they LOVE to
shoot and hurt people...
Al
> What he doesn't realize is he is now a permanent
> resident of my ignore list.
Cool!!!
> He actually had the audacity to quote the ten
> commandments to someone whose religious beliefs and
> oaths contradict many of them,
If your religious beliefs contradict:
- Don't Steal
- Don't Murder
- Don't take your neighbors wife or property away
- Honor your parents
- Take a day off to rest
Then, I'm glad I'm not a member of that religion...
> and try to say that it should be the basis for
> international law. He causes me much
> nausea.
I didn't say it SHOULD be. I said IT IS...
Ask anyone who has studied law. Most of today's laws
are based on the 10 Commandments, The Golden Rule and
the Laws of Hammurabi.
The basic concepts carry, even if the details are
different.
If you bothered to actually read my message, rather
than be "offended" by it. You'd have understood that.
I don't claim to be the creator of that concept. I
read it somewhere, and found that I agreed with it.
The 10 Commandments are acutally pretty religion
neutral as most religions have similar "laws" and that
particular set is share between Judaism, Christianity
and several other derivative religious faiths.
But, please be offended by the thought that good ideas
are universal. Or that just because one faith brought
up an idea that it belongs ONLY to that faith and not
to other faiths, or even in the secular world.
So silly.
Good ideas, are good ideas. No matter who created
them.
> Peace... Sridhar
Al
> The platters are very sensitive to fingerprints and other environmental
> contact. What is a good, quick, and cheap way to treat the platters
> before completing the clock that will seal and protect the platters
> without yellowing or cracking?
have you tried using clear laquer on them? They used that on the alloy wheels
on my car and it's only now starting to give up after 30 years - and that's
with outdoor weathering. I suspect that sort of lifetime will outlast any clock
mechanism based on plastic gearing anyway...
cheers
Jules
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> From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
> Based on the off-list exchanges we had, your "proof"
> was most likely merely jingoistic non-sequiturs
> that Sridhar would have probably found as stupid as
> I did.
Being that you haven't read said reply, you can't
possibly make a comment on them. I notice, as usual
you stoop to personal attacks rather than discuss the
issue.
> > But, how can you quibble with the concept that
> it's wrong for a county
> > to attack it's neighbors, or to build up offensive
> weapons?
>
> Look, every time you open your mouth you contradict
> yourself. When will you realize that everything
> you ascribe as the reasons for which we want
> to go to Iraq, the US has committed the same? Are
> you seriously this dense?
Personal attack.
And what contradiction.
When has the U.S. attacked it's neighbor?
Last I heard Canada and Mexico are unmolested. And
before you bring up stuff that's 100's of years old,
you can't address stuff that old with todays mores.
Iraq attacked it's neighbors in modern times, with
modern weapons.
> This is typical of the mindset of control freaks:
> everyone else is a child and must be punished if
> they don't do as we tell them. I consider this
> deviant psychological behavior.
Personal Attack yet again.
Do you understand a basic concept?
It's called "Being one's word".
When Iraq AGREED to disarm, to not own or develop
weapons of mass destruction, and then broke those
agreements. That's where the problem lies.
It's not about "control" or being a "control freak".
Adults make agreements and keep them.
That's the only way world affairs can work. Treaties
and agreements have to be kept, and there must be
trust that they will be.
When they are broken, they must be enforced. Otherwise
the entire house of cards based on agreements and
"word" collapses.
That leads to chaos.
> > Nobody wants war, but in case such as this... This
> > war will prevent the deaths of millions. Not only
> > by Iraq and Hussein, but by others in the future
> > who will take this example to embolden themselves
> > to do evil without fear of retribution.
>
> Contradiction.
None that I can see.
You'd like there to be one, so that you can attack me
personally.
It's a common tactic of people who are unable to have
intelligent discussions of issues.
Instead of discussing the issue or facts, and keeping
the discussion on that level. You attack the person
directly.
I could be the world's worst idiot. But, if I was
speaking a truth... What difference does that make?
I could be a drooling idiot and point up and burble
"Sky.. Blue..."
The fact that I could be an idiot, doesn't change the
fact that sky is indeed blue.
So keep the discussion on the facts, rather than
making personal attacks. When you do this, you rob
yourself of any power, and ability to have your
opinions considered and respected, and convince people
that they must be indeed, invalid since you needed to
make a personal attack.
> No it's not. It's in our power to change our
> President's ill pursuits because we elected the
> bastard and we can take him down.
I got news for you. Our President is not doing ANY
"ill pursuits". He has the highest sustained approval
rating of ANY President in history.
He is doing the right thing most of the time.
I got that you don't like what he's doing, and don't
agree with it. It doesn't make him wrong.
> He's OUR servant, and our problem. Saddam Hussein
> is someone else's tyrant, not outs.
No. He surrendered to us in a war. He has made
agreements with our Government AND the U.N. that he is
not keeping.
He attacked two of our allies, was defeated and he
must disarm to keep the terms of the treaty.
He is not doing that, and that makes it our business.
Sticking our heads in the sand (or up a bodily
orifice) as you would have us do, does not make the
problem go away, and emboldens others to break
agreements or to attack their neighbors without fear
of reprisals.
> Simple: we are not the police force of the world.
People would like us not to be.
I'm not sure where I stand on this.
Generally, I'm happy when we take principled stands
against terrorism, and agression against neighbors.
> Of course, logic eludes you, Al.
Not at all.
I would recommend you go to college, take some World
History and Civics courses. Also Ethics.
You hold some naive opinions. That sound good on the
face, but don't hold up under rigorous scruitiny.
They only seem good on the face, but when you extend
the consequences of what you would like to see happen
out on a timeline, you see that they don't actually
bring about the things you claim to stand for.
"Peace at any cost" is a misused statement. Often, the
price of peace IS war. Perhaps it wouldn't seem so
contradictory if you consider that in this context...
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure..."
If there were some science fictional way to look at
alternate timelines where we could see the different
outcomes for different decisions, perhaps there'd be
some data for you that might convince you of this.
Having this stand that I hold, takes some faith. It
takes trust that there are things that never happened
that we will never hear about, because they were
deterred.
If every country or terrorist made a press release
saying...
"I was going to do X, but didn't do it because I was
afraid that the U.N., the U.S., the U.K., etc... Would
punish me for doing it..."
Then, you'd see how well deterrence works.
There was an article in Time Magazine (or it may have
been Newsweek) fairly recently that said, that when
the U.S. pulled out of Vietnam, it emboldened all
sorts of actions.
Within three years of the pull-out, American Embassies
were attacked, Cuba stepped up it's actions in South
America, and more.
Backing down has consequences.
It's a tough row to hoe, and not as simplistic as you
make it.
Al
Does anyone on here know anything about a digital computer demostrator unit made by IBM in the late '50s? It's housed in a nice wooden box about 2 feet wide x 15" deep x 12" tall. On the top of the box is a brass plaque that says "Presented by International Business Machine Corporation". Inside is a grey painted metal box with a row of ten 9-pin tube sockets along the back of top. In front of each socket is a single nean light. In front of that are blocks with small holes for jumper wires similar to those used in the Heathkit trainers. One end of the box has a male Jones plug connector and the other end has a female connector. It looks like the units were made so that additional units could be stacked together. On the front side of the grey box is a tag about 1 1/2" x 3" that says IBM in large letters. In a compartment on the right side of the wood case is a power cable that plugs into one of the Jones plug connectors. Under the grey metal chassis is a compartment with jumper wires, spare neon lamps and other small parts. Along the front edge of the box are two rows of holes that hold modules that plug into the sockets in the metal chassis. Each module is an open chassis about an inch square and 4 to 7 inches tall. Each chassis has at least one vacuum tube in it and some have two tubes, one above the other. Each chassis has a metal hoop or bail that goes up and over the top of the top most tube and back down the other side to form a handle for inserting and removing the chassis. On the top of the bail is a small tag with numbers like "TR-2", etc. Besides the tubes the chassis also have other small components such as resistors and capcitors. There are a total of twenty of the small chassis and each one can be plugged into any of the sockets in the main unit but you have to set a number of jumpers on each socket to a get the correct voltages for each of the tube elements. The tubes can be configured as logic elemements such buffers, invertors, various gates, etc and they jumpered together to form more complex d
e
such as flip flops. Evidently the nean lamps are used to indicate the state of each logic element. The guy that had it was quite specific and said that is is NOT an analog computer but a digital one. I went through it trying to find a model number or date but could only find the number 56 stamped on some of the tubes. I'm not sure if that's the manufacturering date or not but it's probably close.
Can anyone tell me more about this thing or even (HOPEFULLY) have a manual for it?
PS this came from the University of Florida.
Joe
Hi,
I got a strange board in recentley. Made by DEC, Quad-heigh, Dual-width, only
one double sided 2x18 pin edge-connector that is snmaller as usual, aperantley
carrying only power-supply connections. Has some 80 SSI/MSI TTL-chips, one prom
19-10818-02, and 10pcs 93l422 256kx4 ram's. Chips have 1979 date codes.
The strange thing about this board is, that there is hardley any external
connections, there is 1 (one) split-lug terminal, and one 16 pole IC-socket, as
normalley used for automated testing signal connection.
On the solderside there is the wording: "Waveform Generator" and 5012514F-P1
Who knows what this board is, and what it does? In what equipment was it used?
How and for what purpose are the 10 Mbit of RAM filled with what kind of data?
Fieldguide says:
M7071 U Video Display Sys: image memory, RAMs & buffer logic.
I don't understand this, because ther is no unibus-connection on this module at
all. Is it a part of something bigger?
Thanks,
Frank
In a message dated 2/21/03 8:26:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
fernande(a)internet1.net writes:
> Oh, your one of those people, who thinks it'a about oil.
>
It isn't??? 60 percent of the setup costs from moving our Army/Navy over
there are Fuel costs.
All of Bush's decisions consider how it impacts the price of oil, and how
much money his friends will make.
I have heard Administration Spokespeople say that the Iraqi oil will
reimburse the US for the cost of the war. How else does he expect to pay for
the war when he is running deficits.
It is all about Oil and how much money the oil industry can make before the
resources run out.
Bush's goal is to make as much money for his oil friends as possible. What do
you think the current run up in prices is?
This is also why he is gutting environmental protections and ignoring global
warming.
This is why you can buy vehicles with the worst MPG and get tax credits.
It is all about OIL. If you view each of Bush's actions through an oil filter
it make them quite understandable. Bush and his friends are Oilmen.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
PS: Sorry for the off topic post, It finally just got to me.....
> From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Al Hartman wrote:
> > > I am looking for a 5 1/4" floppy drive for a
> > > TRS-80.
>
> > That's fine, but you still haven't provided the
> > specific information about WHICH TRS-80 you needed
> > a drive and cable for...
>
> He sent me a private post clarifying.
> He has a TRS-80 Model 1, and is looking for an
> ORIGINAL drive for it (external, with case, power
> supply, and cable).
> Preferably the original SA400 35 track.
I always preferred Tandon TM-100 drives. They needed a
lot less service and maintenance than the SA400's did.
And I always liked having the extra 5 tracks.
I've seen a few of these pop up on E-Bay.
Unless you have one for him, or someone on the list...
eBay may be his best bet.
I have 4 40 Track DSDD 360k PC Drives mounted in an
old PC Compatible case (XT style), that has a LONG
cable coming out the back. I use this for both my Coco
and my Model I (when it was working, my EI is shot and
while I have an LNW EI, I want a new KB unit as well).
The other thing about SA400 drives, is to make sure he
isn't using a patched version of TRSDOS or NewDos/80
or whatever...
If the stepping speed of the DOS is too fast, the
older drive may not boot properly.
I remember taking a copy of 80 Microcomputing and
applying the patches from it (with SuperZAP) to a copy
of TRS-DOS to make it 40 track, and to speed up the
drive step. The system booted up MUCH faster.
Boy, those were the days...
Al
> I will say this about you Al, you do consistently
> trumpet the bullies logic and the administrations
> spin without embarassment. You would have fit in
> very comfortably with the US supporters of Nazi
> Germany. Thankfully your type is still a minority
> at this time in the US.
>
> Lawrence
I'm sorry but none of the above is true.
Unlike the Clinton adminstration there is no spin
here.
It's all the truth, and policy based on hundreds of
years of human history observed.
You should be ashamed of resorting to trick of
comparing me, Bush or ANYONE to Nazi Germany, or
Germans (I am also of German descent, and proud of
that. Though not proud of Germany in the beginning
years of the 20th Century). It's just low.
Luckly, I don't take it personally because it's on the
same level (and as funny to me) as "Yo Momma!"
And I'm NOT in the minority. Given the approval rating
for the war, AND the President I'm in the majority.
Though Liberals would like Conservatives to think they
are kooks and marginalized in the population.
The truth is, that we're not.
Thanks anyway.
Al
Hello John
How are you. Sorry for late writing. I was out of
station for last couple of days only today I joined my
work.
John I am unlucky I do not have the Kermit S/W in my
winchester disk.
Is it necessary to load any communication S/W like
Kermit in the winchester disk, because I also can not
load any S/W in my winchester disk. Now I think I am
in trouble.
Fortunately I also have VanDyke's CRT404 with me & I
can load this in my WINnt PC.
======================================================
> Then, find the
> file(s) you want, and use the RSK 'type' command to
> list them to the port
> you are attached (logically and physically) to. Use
> your terminal
> program's "logging" or "screen capture" function,
> and... there you are!
=====================================================
Sorry please I could not understand your avobe
sentence.
What you mean by
""""use the RSK 'type' command to list them to the
port
you are attached (logically and physically) to. Use
your terminal program's "logging" or "screen capture"
function,""""
Could you please tell me the process/commands in
detail how to use this software & which is the
sutiable cable (RS232) to link these two PC's.
It would be great help from you side.
Best regards
Kishore
--- John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, nk badoni wrote:
>
> > Hello John
> >
> > Thank you very much for your kind reply.
> >
> > Yes it is a complete system.
>
> Ah... this makes the process *much* easier! A
> bit of info now would
> be: what is the model of your DEC system? (ie PDP
> 11/23, VAX 11/750,
> PRO350... etc)
>
> >
> > I have checked Kermit but I could not find this
> S/W
> > there. Might be my process was wrong.
>
>
> Hmmm... a lot of RSX systems had Kermit as part
> of the Distribution
> Kit.. you can try:
>
> MCR> DIR kerm*.*,*
>
> but if your disk is big and you CPU slow, this can
> take upto an hour to
> complete.
>
>
> OR, you can use a Terminal Emulating program on
> your Wintel machine (I
> use VanDyke's CRT on my IBM Thinkpad running Win2K).
> Then, find the
> file(s) you want, and use the RSK 'type' command to
> list them to the port
> you are attached (logically and physically) to. Use
> your terminal
> program's "logging" or "screen capture" function,
> and... there you are!
> The files are safe on your PC. (This assumes you
> have a multi-port set of
> serial terminal connectors attached to the computer.
> This procedure can
> also be done using the PC terminal emulator attached
> to the DEC system
> console port. The object is to list the files as an
> ASCII stream and
> capture that listing on the PC's HD.
>
>
> This will work with any storage media on your DEC
> computer, HDs or
> Floppies, by the way.
>
> Please write to the classiccmp list during this
> process, and we will all
> try to help out as much as possible.
>
> I will also forward this correspondence to the
> List.
>
> Cheers
>
> John
I am looking for a functioning Data Pheripheral DP100 8 inch
removeable disk drive. Any ideas where I might find one?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Debbie
Hi All,
Today I spent driving up and down to a place that had a bunch of
interesting stuff for me. Amongst others, some VAX 4000 stuff, a
truckload of DSSI disks, and: some StorageWorks stuff.
The haul included two HSCZ40C controller cabs, cables, and several
(empty) BA356-JC storage cabs. I still have a bunch of RZ28's in
their SW trays, so plugged them in, for fun.
Everything seems to be alive, I could use some docs on this,
though.. esp. the HSZ40C controller, which obviously needs to be
configured through its [unknown pinout] serial port...
Thx,
Fred
I have a Visual Commuter laptop which I purchased new and still works. It's
stored securely in a closet. Unfortunately, I didn't purchased a LCD
display for it. Would you by chance know where I may purchased an LCD?
Hi all,
See subject..
They're fine... just got word from John that although he's
extremely busy, he's OK. Site was down since the last time
his ISP rebooted (fri 14th) which indeed was caused by the
storm. He'll check in on the site.
Thanks for noticing!
Cheers,
Fred
Could the many who post from their digest downloads
please put the subject in their replies ? This makes it
much easier to use my delete button and not have to read
the things I'm not interested in. I don't think that's too
much to ask. I'm sure that would make Jay or Jeffries task
much easier also. Not all of us receive in digest form.
Lawrence
lgwalker@ mts.net
> Roger Merchberger wrote:
> You mean, citing war on others despite (or because
> of) the #1 commandment of most [all?] Christian
> faiths: "Thou shalt not kill."
> Despite 2000 years of trying, Christianity (in all
> it's flavors) is still not the dominant faith of
> this planet... Any chance there's a reason for that
Did you ever bother to get the data?
http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm
Since your premise is wrong, I'll let you decide
whether your conclusion is too....
Thanks for playing!
Al
All,
Yay... DEC's rigidness in how things Should Be Done did not
disappoint me again... the DS300 was in password protection
mode. I cleared it with the usual procedure, and am now
able to configure it... which is almost as painless as it
was with the DS200's I have !
(*just with TCP/IP added ;-) *)
Thanks to all who have helped/responded!
Now, back to the usual political BS we read here..
--fred
All,
Yeah, well... part of the fun was getting the consoles tied together
using a DECserver 300. The thing works, boots, loads the software,
and then... BANG. Dumps me into a very unwilling mode that just
gives me a # prompt, and then wants me to guess.
Anyone have the (pdf?) docs on this beast? I assumed it would be a
thing similar to the 200, but oh, was i wrong...
--f
One last riposte for these supposed "patriots".
FEMA was brought in by the Reagan-Bush administrations and
now Junior has extended the rights to suspend the rights
enshrined in the US constitution by the founding fathers who
could never have imagined the rapacity of the present bandits.
Check out
http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html
or if you want a real example of the big sell even extended to your
kids
www.fema.gov/kids/
But of course there is no brainwashing going on in the US of
The New World Order.
Or if you are even capable of reading something other than
spin-doctored news-clips, read " The Praetorian Guard" by
John Stockwell, the highest-ranking CIA officer ever to quit the
agency and expose the truth of it's operations to Congressional
investigators, if the book hasn't been "disappeared" by the
State Department. You might even re-examine the positions of
the "discredited" former US Attorney-General Ramsey Clarke.
Enough of this BS, I'd rather ignore the parroting rabble and go
back to figuring out the workings of "non-computer" micros and
even "non-computer" DEC micros. I shut ma mouth...
Lawrence
lgwalker@ mts.net