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> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Mail List
> <mail.list(a)analog-and-digital-solutions.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:17 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Let the witch trials begin! Re: OT: Re: Going OT Re: (no
> subject)
>
> > > This country was founded by Christians. They may have had some odd
> > > customs, and they may have made some things "law" that were really
> > > tradition, but thats no reason to reject everything "religious", such
> as
> > > the principles that this nation was founded on.
>
This country was founded by Christians. They may have had some odd
customs, and they may have made some things "law" that were really
tradition, but thats no reason to reject everything "religious", such as
the principles that this nation was founded on.
America was *NOT* founded by Christians. I'm very tired of hearing that
drumbeat. The founding fathers, if anything, were DEISTs, and/or
ceremonialisyts, and well knew the inherent dangers of including or even
nodding to support any one religion over another in this country and its
government - something our modern-day right-wing Christian brothers and
sisters either don't know or won't learn.
A state religion here would indeed be as dangerous to US national growth and
development as is has proven all over the middle east. Remember: prior to
1979, Iran didn't have either a "state religion," or a theocracy. Now it
does. Was there an improvement?
Cheers...
Ed
San Antonio, Tx, USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Mail List
> <mail.list(a)analog-and-digital-solutions.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:17 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Let the witch trials begin! Re: OT: Re: Going OT Re: (no
> subject)
>
> > > This country was founded by Christians. They may have had some odd
> > > customs, and they may have made some things "law" that were really
> > > tradition, but thats no reason to reject everything "religious", such
> as
> > > the principles that this nation was founded on.
>
> America was *NOT* founded by Christians. I'm very tired of hearing that
> drumbeat. The founding fathers, if anything, were DEISTs, and/or
> ceremonialisyts, and well knew the inherent dangers of including or even
> nodding to support any one religion over another in this country and its
> government - something our modern-day right-wing Christian brothers and
> sisters either don't know or won't learn.
>
> A state religion here would indeed be as dangerous to US national growth
> and development as is has proven all over the middle east. Remember: prior
> to 1979, Iran didn't have either a "state religion," or a theocracy. Now
> it does. Was there an improvement?
>
> Cheers...
>
> Ed
> San Antonio, Tx, USA
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> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Chad Fernandez wrote:
>
> > You honestly believe that the governmant controls what CNN, MSNBC, FOX,
> > etc. put into there news casts?
>
Actually, our government controls *access* to who and what gets into
the news. Today, news isn't about Edward R. Murrow or Walter Cronkite. Its
about money, looking good, keeping up the ratings, and, just occasionally, a
slanted nod to what's going on in the world. "Truth" went the way of the
wind with (maybe before) Kennedy...
Cheers!
Ed
San Antonio, Tx, USA
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Since we're on points like this one, does anyone out there remember the the
first shots of the '86 Challenger disaster? One chase plane scene showed
for about 1/2 a day on CNN, as if it were normal and planned, then simply
disappeared. It *hadn't* anything to do with the SRBs... Did anyone see?
Does anyone remenber? Off list responses preferred...
Cheers!
Ed
San Antonio, Tx, USA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of chris
> <cb(a)mythtech.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:26 PM
> To: Classic Computer
> Subject: Re: Let the witch trials begin!
>
> >It never made it to CNN or MSNBC.
>
> MSNBC's web site also altered a story the other day regarding Osama bin
> Ladin and Iraq. The first release made mention that bin Ladin was calling
> his people to kill Hussein. Then, when the US held a press briefing on
> the same topic, and tried to make it sound as if bin Ladin was in cahoots
> with Hussein, MSNBC suddenly altered their story, removing the reference.
>
> No explination to the change. Could have been an error, could have been
> an oversite, could have been a request by someone... could have been
> anything. Point is, the story took a change to reflect the US governments
> desired position on the topic, and they just pretened it had always been
> that way.
>
> Humm... does Winston Smith work for MSNBC?
>
> -chris
> <http://www.mythtech.net>
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>The earliest 1.2M drive that I saw (before the AT) was a
>Mitsubishi 4854?
>I was told that it had had been designed for the explicit purpose of
>replacing 8" drives. It did NOT also have a "360K" mode.
I still have some M4854 drives that are in use to this day! My *first*
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Anyway, I digress,
The M4854 was an 8" drive replacement. Motor speed was ?300? rpm, not the
usual 360rpm with the 5.25" drives. The hardist thing about it was that it
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Got a few new items at auction today:
1- hp 660LX no ac adapter and batteries are down so can not test it.
2-IBM PowerPC tower Risc6000 C10 not tested yet.
3-Sun Field Engineer Handbook Volume II pretty cool stuff in it. Covers
these architectures: Sun-3, Sun-3x, Sun-386i,
Sun-4, Sun-4c, Sun-4m.
4-hp 5314 A Universal Counter with manual.
5-hp 5381A 80mhz Frequency Counter with manual.
6-Fluke 1900 A Multi-Counter.
7-Datapulse model 201 Data Generator.
8-Sun UltraSCSI external with 9gig HD in it.
9-hp Apollo
And some mousepads, Analog cards (4), and other goodies I have checked out
yet.
All,
yep, it's me again. The 4000 VLC started and ran perfectly. I left
it on for about 8 hours as a burn-in test. When I came back, it was
(apparently) still running - but the VT-320 it was talking through had
died. Arrgggh. I've done a little investigating, so hopefully I won't need
quite so many exchanges to get this one going.
The external symptoms of the VT320 were: no display; when power
switch is on, the LK201 lights flash about once a second. No other sign of
life. I turned it off, unplugged it, and opened it up. The power supply
board at the side has an output indicator LED which also flashes about once
a second.
I turned it off, unplugged the power supply board from the
mainboard, and turned it on again. In this condition (which I'll call
"unloaded"), the output indicator LED comes on and stays on. In addition,
the pins on the output connector go to more or less their correct voltage,
as determined by labels on the mainboard at the other end of that connector
harness:
Labelled Ground 5V 12V 18V
Actual Ground 6.5V 12.5V 22V
The power supply has a big (10-pin) transformer inside a cage (with
some other components) on it. The transformer seems to divide the circuitry
in two, inasmuch as only the "Ground" traces seem to go to both sides. On
the input (upstream, plugs into wall) side, there is a network connected to
a UC3842N IC. Google led me to a spec sheet for that, which calls it a
"Current-mode PWM Controller". The spec sheet also has a "typical
application" schematic for an "Off-line Flyback Regulator" which looks to
be at least somewhat similar to the upstream side of the power supply,
though I have not traced the latter out well enough to be sure yet.
There are also several large electrolytic capacitors on the input
side of the power supply.
Possible signs of trouble are there, in the form of scorch marks on
the PWB around two power resistors (? They have what looks like a powder
blue ceramic exterior, are marked 120 Ohms +/- 5% and ?? (maybe 47 Ohms),
and are much bigger than most of the resistors on the board).
In the "loaded" condition, the resistor with the worst scorch marks
around it (R523, as marked on the circuit board) has 0V across it, with a
small spike upward (as shown by the needle jerking on my analog VOM) each
time the output LED flashes. In the "unloaded" condition, my VOM shows 15V
across that resistor, and it gets pretty warm pretty fast.
Questions for the group:
1) Have I got good evidence that the fault this time is actually on the
power supply board, and not a pull-down on the mainboard, as it was on the
VAX 4000 VLC?
2) Is there a good way (without use of an ESR meter, which I haven't got)
to isolate which component is bad, or should I just replace the capacitors
on suspicion?
The power supply, at least, looks very easy to work on. Nice big
components, circuit board is only 2 layers (front and back) and not very
many traces on the component side, and the traces are exposed and easy to
get to in its operating configuration.
I'm being careful around the 120VAC (rectified to 160 DC in the
unloaded condition).
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
- Mark
> From: "TeoZ" <teoz(a)neo.rr.com>
>
> My first computer was a timex 2068 and learning to
> program on chicklet keyboards sucks.
But.. Those were pretty nice computers...
Timex did make an incredible goof with those...
Originally, it was intended to be an American Version
of the 48k ZX-Spectrum Computer.
But, as-is it wouldn't pass FCC regulations.
So, they redesigned the computer to do so, and decided
to "improve" it. Designing out most compatibility with
the Spectrum in the process.
With a set of Spectrum ROMS in a cartridge, and a
"Twister" card (to convert the expansion edge back to
the Spectrum version), one could use Spectrum Hardware
and software on it.
There were third party keyboards for it also, and when
Sinclair was bought out, the company that bought it (I
can't remember the name), made better versions of the
Spectrum with built in Microdrives or Cassette Player,
and a better keyboard.
I have a U.S. Prototype of the Spectrum, a Microdrive
interface and drive, and the Timex of Portugal 3inch
Disk Drive System (which also turned it into a CP/M
Computer).
A nice computer for the time if you tricked it out a
little.
The company I worked for in the 80's even made a
drawing program similar to MacPaint for it, called
TechDraw, A Spectrum Emulator Cartridge, Disk System,
Terminal Software (for the Timex Modem), and lots
more...
Also, fun days...
I hope to spot one at a flea market to have one again.
I still have my ZX-81 though.
You can still get kits for the ZX-81, and some books
and software from www.zebrasystems.com
Regards,
Al Hartman
Ok, I got my PDP-11/34 mounted in its rack and have started to audit
jumpers, switches, etc. I am being cornfused by the M9312 bootstrap
terminator module.
First, I'm confused about what version of the module I have. My 11/34 user's
manual (EK-11034-UG-001 '77) talks about a -YA, -YB, and -YF version of the
board. My M9312 manual (EK-M9312-TM-003 '81) talks only in terms of
bootstrap ROM part numbers. The DIP switch references in the two documents
conflict, even differing on the switch settings necessary just to boot into
the console emulator.
My M9312 has no -Yx designator and has only one bootstrap ROM installed
(756A9 for RK03/05/05J or TU55/56). The M9312 manual seems to make the most
sense in this case, so I've been believing its side of the story. However,
the DIP switch settings on my M9312 have me puzzled. Here they are:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
ON ON ON OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF ON ON
This doesn't correspond to anything in either manual! According to the
manual I'm trusting, this says to start executing at 765406 (in the console
emulator ROM). It needs to be 765020 (with diags) or 765144 (without diags).
Supposedly, the machine was functional when it was decommed, so my first
instinct is to assume I am (or the docs are) wrong somewhere. However, its
previous owner (another collector) was not able **IIRC** to get a register
printout at power-up. So maybe the DIP switch is pointing to someplace that
isn't a valid entry point. I don't have access to the complete M9312 print
set, which would list the ROM contents.
Should I reset the DIP switch to say 765020?
--
Jeffrey Sharp
>From: blstuart(a)bellsouth.net
>
>In message <3E5D4EA2.5080309(a)aconit.org>, Hans B Pufal writes:
>>Unlike BASIC, PAF was designed so that its
>>key words could be easily changed to different languages and on the fly
>>during one progam, a feature I have not seen in any other language.
I thought I'd mentioned that it is not entirely true that
no other computer language can be converted to another language.
Not being a natural language, Forth, can easily be converted
to any standard text type language and there has even been
efforts to convert to Chinese( not text type ). Since Forth
has its own rules on noun/verb/object order, the language
that it uses is not important.
This is unlike most languages because most use complex precedence
rules( LISP being another exception ). One can not fully overload
the + operation in languages like 'C' because it would end up
looking like +( a, b ) instead of a + b.
I know of at least one German Forth and work in progress on
a Chinese Forth ( issues are mainly entering and displaying
characters ). Both of these can be source files loaded
>from an English ( or other language ) Forth to completely change
the Forth. One can even have both at the same time and switch
back and forth. Heck, One might even have three languages or
more to select from. One's imagination is the limit( and real
memory).
Dwight
>
>At the 1981 National Computer Conference (US), Grace Hopper told
>a story about the A0 compiler she and her collegues did on the
>UNIVAC. Part of the motivation for this program was to settle
>the question of whether a computer could write a program for
>itself. So the thing we now understand to be a programming
>language was made as close to a natural language as they were
>able to do at the time. Every statement consisted of a subject
>a verb and an object followed by a period. (You can probably
>begin to see how this work influenced the development of COBOL.)
>Anyway, to demonstrate the flexibility of this technique, they
>had both English and German versions. However, since it was a
>US military sponsored project and since it was rather soon after
>WWII, the German version caused a minor freak-out on the part of
>some of the military brass. It was quickly shoved in a corner
>and was lost in the mists of time.
>
>Brian L. Stuart
Hi,
I am looking for a Datapoint Mini computer from around the 1980-1983 timeframe.
Any chance you have one or know of anyone else I might try?
Thanks,
Debbie
If anyone is interested. I have two brand new LA36 Decawritter II's
for sale. I personally took these off their shipping pallets sometime
in the late 70's or early 80's. They look absolutely new. Original test
printout and manuals are still with them. They have been stored
covered all this time.
Ed
Albany, NY
w2uv(a)arrl.net
Hi all, I got my Intel MDS225 working today, but I only have
a single double density drive on it. I seem to recall that it
would read single density, but you accessed by a different drive
specifier. I can't seem to find one bit of documentation on the
ISIS command at home. Does anyone have a summary page they could
scan and send?
I am also looking for the 50 pin connection wiring so I can connect
a drive externally.
It was fun booting up ISIS-II version 4.2 and seeing the prompt
come up. I also had a CP/M 2.2 version that booted perfectly!
best regards, Steve Thatcher
Hi pat,
I too just picked up a model 4. I didn't get any disks but mine says "Disk?" when I power it up. I opened it up and mine is a basic 64k machine with two SS disk drives. The drives in mine are made by Texas (somebody), Texas Peripherals maybe? I checked and they're 40 track SS drives. I believe these are the original disk drives for the M4 but I've been told that they will support 80 track and DS drives. But I don't know if you had to patch the BIOS and/or OS to do that.
Joe
At 10:38 PM 2/25/03 -0500, you wrote:
>I recently picked up a TRS-80 model 4, that seems to have problems with
>its floppy drives.
>
>The machine is a base Model 4 with 64KB of ram (I think - haven't yet
>taken the EMF shield off the mainboard), and no peripherals attached.
>When I powered it up the first time, with or without a disk in the
>(bottom) drive, it displayed "Cass?" on the screen, and then I could press
>enter to that and the "Memory size?" prompt, and get a basic prompt.
>
>I tried swapping the floppy drives, and that time I got a "Diskette?"
>prompt if there was no disk in the drive, and pressing any keys didn't
>cause anything to happen. If I put a disk in the drive, the machine never
>displays anything, and then after 10-20 seconds, the drive light goes out.
>
>I tried connecting only one drive at a time, with the same results. If I
>connected a 1.2MB floppy that I had laying around (a Teac FD-55GFR-149-U),
>it did the same thing as if the drives were swapped. Yes, I realize that
>the drive probaly wasn't going to work, I just wanted to see if it did
>anything.
>
>Also, the disk I used was supposed to be a TRS-DOS (bootable) disk, but
>it's possible that they've gone bad after so many years. Are the disks on
>the Model 4 recorded so that I can read them on a PC (IE 48/96tpi MFM,
>compatible with the NEC D765)? I'd like to know if I can make backup
>images and/or see if the disks work on another machine.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Pat
>--
>Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS
>Information Technology at Purdue
>Research Computing and Storage
>http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu
In a message dated 2/26/03 3:20:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, vcf(a)siconic.com
writes:
>
> I said it's US$3,000 for a 40 footer. It's actually US$3,000 for a 20
> footer from the west coast of the US to Europe.
It was about $5000 to ship a 40 foot container of scrap from the Pacific NW
(Tacoma was the cheapest IIRC) to Taiwan or Indonesia when we were doing that
in the mid 90s. We had to make sure there was more than 45,000 pounds in it,
that was the break even point for shipping.
>
> Speaking of which, if anyone in Germany or beyond has something big in the
> US that they want to ship and can get it to Oakland, California, soon then
> let me know because Hans is shipping a bunch of stuff back to Germany but
> doesn't have enough to fill a container yet.
>
What a great way to get something heavy to Europe.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Sorry, I gave some wrong information regarding the cost to ship a
container overseas.
I said it's US$3,000 for a 40 footer. It's actually US$3,000 for a 20
footer from the west coast of the US to Europe.
Not bad if you have a lot of scheisse to ship.
Speaking of which, if anyone in Germany or beyond has something big in the
US that they want to ship and can get it to Oakland, California, soon then
let me know because Hans is shipping a bunch of stuff back to Germany but
doesn't have enough to fill a container yet.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In a message dated 2/26/03 1:46:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
classiccmp(a)crash.com writes:
> I hadn't realized anyone had put a 68020 on the S-100 bus, or is that just
> a 680[01]0 in a PGA?
Yes, They made a 68020 and that system appears to be one. I had a similar
System One in a wood cabinet that came with the 68020 CPU, 2 2meg memory
cards and some custom video cards. It came with the docs. All S100.
I have since passed it on to another collector from the list. It is
interesting to note that the one I passed on and this one in the auction are
both located in Washington State. They must have had a good Cromemco dealer
there.
They are not the same System Ones. Cabinets are different.
It is a nice system.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
PS No connection with the seller...
From: Erik S. Klein <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com>
Date: 02/26/2003 11:23 AM
> TeoZ Said:
>
> " The Timex 2068 was released in 82 or 83 when the Vic20/c64 had proper
> keyboards."
>
[snip]
> all "Q"s. It seems that Commodore had to rush to get their Christmas
> orders filled and they ended up cutting a few corners.
>
The C64 and TS 2068 were both released that Xmas season, and Timex Sinclair
lore has it that the Timex machine was initially called the TS2064, but when
Commodore announced the C64, the 2064 was changed to 2068 in order to sound
bigger and more powerful :>)
Later --
Glen
0/0
Looks like most of a 68k-based Cromemco on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3403398810&category=1479
I hadn't realized anyone had put a 68020 on the S-100 bus, or is that just
a 680[01]0 in a PGA? Looks like I could find out if I could get to this
page:
www.dantiques.com/computers/cromemco/100300.htm
But my ISP has a routing problem that prevents me from reaching them.
I've used the Google cache, but that doesn't get me the pictures. Oh
well, maybe by next week this'll be fixed...
No connection to the seller, just curious. And still looking for a job,
or I'd consider bidding on this thing.
--Steve.
cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 26.02.2003:
>
Oh boy, thatone previously was supposed to go privat...
one thousand sorries to all of you.
Frank
cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 26.02.2003:
>
>----------<snip>-----------
>Message: 11
>Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 01:23:21 +0100 (CET)
>From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl>
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Available: various DEC monitors
>Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>
>All,
>
>Available as of right now, various DEC color monitors of
>the 19" and heavy kind. VR and VRT series. Obviously
>for pickup only, in the Hilversum-Amsterdam area in
>The Netherlands.
>
>What's left by next week will be scrapped - I need the
>space for machines.
>
>Cheers,
> Fred
>----------<snip>-----------
>
Hallo Fred,
Ik zoek een of twee VRT17-HA/H4 of VRC21-HA/H4 (72Hz-refresh) voor mijn DEC3000
systemen, heb je zoiets? Zoja, kan ik het bijvoorbeeld zaterdag ophalen, ik rij
morgen naar Nederland.
Wat anders, heb je al faciliteiten om manuals te scannen? Ik heb wel het een en
ander bij te dragen, maar zonder automatische papier-feeder op de scanner word
je gek. Ik kan evtl. wel het een en ander meebrengen.
Er zijn intussen heel wat websites met dokumentatie. Ken jij een algemene lijst
die verteld welk dokument reeds gescant is, en waar zich dit bevind? Of wou jij
juist zoiets gaan samenstellen?
Ok, ik hoor het wel,
groet,
Frank
PS
een mailaccout op www.pdp11.nl is heel erg cool....
Evenin' all.
Uploaded tonight for your viewing pleasure, just over 60 pix of the
HP1000's that Tim found & saved a few weeks ago, now parked lovingly (erm)
in my shed...
http://classic-micros.com/hp1000
(Note to Hans: I *know* I've not put the picture sizes in the img tags, I'm
just too darn lazy, OK?)
:)
Anyway, a brief tale of what happened this last w/e...
On Saturday, I picked up the 3 terminals & assorted other tapes, plus the
disc controller from Tim, thus completing the rescue. Back to the shed for
some well deserved tinkering time :)
A long poke around in the manuals convinced me that:
a) I have no docs for the F-series machines :( They're all for the A700...
b) There was no system installation guide :(
Thus thwarted, I decided buggrit, I'll carry out the cardinal sin, and just
power the things up anyway. Fortunately, a kindly sysadmin had labelled the
tape drive connectors, so they could be applied to the correct slot. Not so
with the MUX cable; and besides, the other end of the MUX seemed to be
missing anyway (i.e the DeMUXer). So, my total experimentation with the
F-series was limited to pressing buttons on the panel and getting the
blinkenlights to blinken. Which they did in a most satisfactory manner, I
might add. Efforts to do anything with the tape drive were also effectively
thwarted; I did manage to get a tape loaded, and the "on line" light to
blinken (well, "come on" would be more accurate"). No amount of pressing
front panel buttons would make them spin on their own, however.
Ho hum.
So, I tried the A700, which at least will talk to a terminal.
Unfortunately, it won't listen to the terminal, so there's something a bit
fishy going on there as well. That boot screen was as far as I got.
Ho hum ^ 2.
So, I made do with loading a disc (dunno where to plug it in to the 1000,
though, so can't load anything from it, even if I knew the correct
pushenbutton sequence).
Questions/requests arising:
1) Does *anyone* here know anyone (or IS someone) who is/was a sysadmin (or
related/married to same) of an F-series HP 1000? If so, can you/they render
any help?
2) Does anyone have access to a set of F-series manuals, especially
installation reference manuals? If so, are they in electronic format; if
not, can you/they bear to part with them for at least as long as it will
take me to scan them?
3) Has anyone got a suitable demuxer? (8-port, takes centronix plug & has 8
D25 socket outputs)
Cheers y'all.
--
Cheers, Ade.
Be where it's at, B-Racing!
http://b-racing.com
Hi Brian,
I have seen on this site http://www.classiccmp.org/
that you are looking for a HP 16C.
If you wish, I can send you a PC emulator of HP 16C.
Regards, Vincent.
cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote:
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:46:22 -0600
>From: Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com>
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: OT: FreeBSD (was: "Real Computers")
>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>
>Well, here's my OT post for the month.
>
>On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, Philip Pemberton wrote:
>
>
>>I'll try FreeBSD when I've got a spare few hours to download the ISO
>>image.
>>
>>
>
>You might find it easier to install by FTP. It's simple: download two floppy
>disk images, dd 'em to some 3.5s, and reboot. Then install as normal, except
>choose FTP as the install media. It isn't lightning-fast, but you also only
>download the data that you need instead of an entire ISO.
>
>ObClassicCmp: FreeBSD makes a great OS for running classic computing tools
>like SIMH.
>
>
>
>>Slackware is quite stable, probably because Slackware have a "We're not
>>going to hack the Kernel, nor are we going to use any fancy packaging
>>systems or init scripts".
>>
>>
>
>I've heard many people say that Slackware is the most BSD-like of the
>Linuces. Of course, that was on Slashdot, so it must be true.
>
>
I'd recommend going with 4.7 rather than 5.0 since the 5.0 is pretty
much the developer relese for the folks working on the non-stable
version...
Anyone who gets the Simh VAX emulator to use ethernet on FreeBSD will
have my undying gratitude.
There's going to be a 4.8 soon (my box auto-builds weekly from the
4.x-STABLE tree and now is calling itself 4.8-PRERELEASE.)
Bill