Sorry - forgot to change subject when sent to m100 list...
> From: Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net>
> Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:08:22 PM US/Pacific
> To: m100(a)list.30below.com
> Subject: Re: TPDD Assistance Request
>
>
> Anyone interested in trade?
>
> Workslate Computer - Working
> Workslate Pen printer - Not Tested
> Workslate Coms Pod - Not Tested
> Books for above - Working :^)
> 2 power adapters. - Working
>
> What am I bid? : ^ )
>
> I also have a Model 102 that is not available
> and a NEC PC8300 which may be...
>
>
>
> ron.
> > What about software that will emulate a VT100 on a PC?
>
> Not that I'm the original requestor (I have VT52s, VT100s, VT220s
> and VT240s, myself), but if one is going to consider using an
> emulator, one has to ask does it do double-high-double-wide? 132 column?
> Have a PF1/Gold key for EDT, etc.?
That's the *real* trick, finding *anything* that comes close to giving you
keypad support along with any other features that you might require. I can
live without the double-high-double-wide and 132 column, but I've got to
have the keypad!
> I use emulators because I have to, but occasionally I find times where I
> _really_ want a terminal (and not just 'cause it looks right). OTOH, if
> I need to force-feed stuff down the throat of a classic system, even
> an xterm window that's connected in some way to a serial port (kermit,
> typically), is a great way to go.
I find that the following script, that I got off of USENET a few years ago,
is able to turn a Xterm into a usable VT100 (with keypad support).
ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/vms/vt100.sh
> But, I suspect, in this case, it's simple aesthetics - the VT100 was
> the dominant terminal when the 11/44 was current. It's nice to have
> the proper accessories for ones vintage machines.
I think Jay said as much, and I know that is why I've got a DECwriter II and
three VT100's. They're for my /44, despite the fact that I really prefer a
VT420 (and that's all I've used on the /44 so far). Still I've got them so
that should I ever want, I can set the /44 up for a 'museum type' display.
Zane
Hi to all on the list,
I've got an HP 5451c Fourier analyser that I'm trying to resurrect.
The machine is basically an 'embeded' HP 1000 (2113B - I think but called a
54451 A/B processor in the literature) with a multi-channel digitizer, an
oscilloscope display a system controller and a display terminal.
The system allows time signals to be recorded and then viewed in the
frequency domain (amongst many other functions)
After pulling the parts of the system out of the store and trying to put it
all together I find that I am minus the cable that connects the display
terminal (an HP 2648A) to the system controller. The connector at the
system controller end is marked 'teletype'.
Is there anybody out there who has a spare cable?
Does anyone have a pin-out for the correct cable?
Does anyone know the correct part number for the cable? - I think that this
may be 13232B but the literature I have is a little sparse
Thanks in advance
Peter Brown
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>2 to 5 cents (US) per pound as Motor Breakage. They are heavy.
Ok... not enough to worry about. I'm not sure how much it weighs, but
even at 500 lbs (which it isn't) and 5 cents per pound... that's only 25
bucks.
The nearest public scrap yard that I am aware of is a good 25 minutes
away, plus I would need to line up a van to cart it. I'm not sure the
effort is worth a max of 25 dollars.
Of course, knowing my speedyness on this, I can probably just take it
with me the next time I go to one of my remote offices... there is a
scapper 5 minutes down the road from them. Provided the line isn't too
long, I can take it there (and if it is long, I can just take it there
and dump it for free... that is what I usually do when I have to junk
stuff there).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>I'm scrapping a Printronix P-300 printer and thought
>I'd check to see if anyone needed any parts before
>it hits the scrapper.
I've got one as well that is available for parts. Everything in mine
should be good other than the power supply (was working fine when the
power supply blew, a repair tech said the transformer in it is dead).
I may also have some unopened ribbons for it. I probably also still have
a few extra fuses for the power supply (I bought them when it first died,
and when it blew the next set, I called in a repair guy to look at it)
And mine is mounted on a rolling stand, and has a paper catch bin for the
output.
Are these things worth anything at a scrap yard? I've been planning to
just flip mine into the dumpster one of these days (its in a back corner
of an unused section of office space, so I just keep forgetting about it).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hello,
I'm scrapping a Printronix P-300 printer and thought
I'd check to see if anyone needed any parts before
it hits the scrapper.
Contact me off-list if you need any parts.
Cheers,
Dan
www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html
I was involved in a trial of resistivity surveying in Peru in 1979, but it
was not very successful -- the desert sands were too dry for there to be
much conductivity! We had better luck with a simple seismic unit (womp the
ground with a sledge hammer and pick up the waves on a pair of geophones).
I have a copy of AutoCad 1.4 (that's one point four, not fourteen) that was
customized by John Walker for use on the Otrona Attache at the request of
University of Chicago archaeologists working in the Middle East. It was
successfully used for mapping and architectural drawings at Nippur, in Iraq
(see http://www-oi.uchicago.edu/OI/AGS/About_AGS.html).
After using the Osborne 1 in Peru, I got an Otrona 8:16 that I also used in
Peru. I wrote a simple program for it to take raw theodolite data and
generate a graphic of the architecture`we were mapping. I also used a
commercial graphing program (Golden Graphics Plotware) to create a contour
map based on pottery sherd frequencies that nicely revealed house patterns
on a wind-deflated site (where all evidence of the cane-walled houses had
been blown away by the wind). We used the computers mainly for writing and
data base applications, though. Just having a portable computer for that was
a great help, though. We owe a lot to Adam Osborne for opening up that
market.
BTW, the acquaintance that I got the AutoCAD 1.4 from, McGuire Gibson, and a
Grad school classmate, Elizabeth Stone, have been lobbying/advising the US
on where _not_ to bomb in Iraq in an attempt to minimize damage to
historical and archaeological sites there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:05 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Computing "in the field" (was RE: Osborne)
--- "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> wrote:
> Ah, yes, I got my start in computers on with an Osborne 1...
> I even took it to Peru for the archaeological projects I worked
> on.
Interesting. We took Kaypros (one 2, and later, a 10, IIRC) to
the dig I worked on in College (1985, 1987, 1989). One of our
guys tried to write a program to graph our results on-site, but
those efforts didn't appear to be rewarding (we were using non-
invasive survey techniques with a soil resistivity box that I
had to keep repairing, and a proton magnetometer)
-ethan
Ah, yes, I got my start in computers on with an Osborne 1. $1795 _with_
software was such a deal at the time. The screen was small and the ~90KB the
floppies held made for some interesting disk juggling (I wrote a MailMerge
program so I could print my papers that were longer than ~15 pages -- 30KB
-- with continuous page numbering), but it was a computer that I could
afford. I even took it to Peru for the archaeological projects I worked on.
The computers today may be faster and the programs can do more (often _too
much_, IMHO), but the Osborne 1 met my needs quite well, thank you.
Bob
One obit: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/29921.html
-----Original Message-----
From: David Vohs [mailto:netsurfer_x1@fastmailbox.net]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:37 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Osborne
Indeed, the man was quite a genius in his time.
Sometimes it makes me wonder what the computer world (especially the
portables market!) would be like if he had never joined the business.
That's some food for thought, huh?
> Sorry to hear that. Seems like quite a guy.
> <bows head>
>
> Eric
>
> "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" wrote:
> >
> > Adam Osborne is dead.
> >
> > Osborne Books (sold, became Osborne McGraw Hill)
> > Osborne Computer (when you brag too much about your NEXT product, you
kill
> > sales of the current one)
> > Paperback Software (killed by Lotus for being a Visi-clone too similar
to
> > their Visi-clone)
>
--
David Vohs
netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net
--
http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different...
Adam Osborne is dead.
Osborne Books (sold, became Osborne McGraw Hill)
Osborne Computer (when you brag too much about your NEXT product, you kill
sales of the current one)
Paperback Software (killed by Lotus for being a Visi-clone too similar to
their Visi-clone)
Somewhat ontopic:
Anyone else here planning on going to Hamvention 2003 in Dayton, OH? It's
looking like I'm going to be able to go this year, and was wondering what's
the best way for a coupla newbies to get around to best experience this,
without spending all day running in circles...
[[ And altho I won't have my truck, I'll have my wife's van -- which has
big mirrors, in addition to a 1/2 ton truck frame, so 3 other adults & I
will still have *lots* of storage for goodies... ;-) ]]
Thanks,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
Hi,
I have hooked up 2 VAX6k and 1 HSC90 and one MTI StingRay CI-SCSI
adapter to my two star couplers all properly. Still I could never
get any of my CI stuff to work. I tried under ULTRIX 4.5 just to
ping through the SCS (?) IP physical/data-link layer but to no
avail. Don't get any errors configuring the interface and pinging,
just no host reachable. I may not have the CI nodes configured
right, I may need to figure out how to plug the jumpers on the VAXBI
backplane.
Two additional observations: my HSC90 reports K.ci status 111 and the
CI LINK module tells me it is not happy. Also, when I try to boot
any of the VAXen from media that I don't think is really bootable,
I get some funny error on the console: "Insufficient memory for CI"
(even though I have full boat of memory 0.5 GB in each VAX.) Could
everyone be unhappy about something strange in the CI system?
Otherwise:
- who knows how the CIBCA is configured with the jumpers?
- who knows how best to debug CIBCA under Ultrix or VMS?
- who knows how to set up (and debug!) IP over CI on Ultrix?
(I do not dare ask about IP over CI on VMS, but appreciate if
there are answers.)
I also have a VAX6000 Diagnostics tape (TK50) which I should be
using. I tried booting from it but I get this "insufficient memory
for CI" error soon after the first few blocks are read from tape.
I also didn't see much in the way of VMB.EXE on that tape. Anyone
know what to do with a VAX6k diagnostics tape? Do I need to use it
under VMS? (PS: if someone needs VAX6k diagnostics, I could help :-)
regards,
-Gunther
"RHahm" <rhahm(a)nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> I have acquired an HP-86B. Will this work with any older composite
> monochrome monitor with an RCA video in jack or only the HP monitors which
> seem to be hard to find?
I haven't had my 86A out in a while, but when I did I was using an
Amdek monitor with it, and I believe it was standard horizontal scan
rate.
-Frank McConnell
What is DEC AUI Cable? ie: What is it used for, and what kind of wire is
inside?
I have 3 lengths of the stuff, and its stiff as hell. Feels like maybe
multiple strands of co-ax or something. The jacket is labeled 4PR so that
might make sense. It has 15 pin D-shell right angle connectors on it.
I'm just curious about it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
In my never ending attempts to find more space, I've started sorting thru
the book vaults and culling out the duplicates. Following is this week's
sortings.
In general, any book listed will go for $7.50 delivered in CONUS unless
otherwise noted. Where there are multiples this will be noted. If you
are outside of 'states', please drop me a note to sort out postage.
Available volumes:
Digital Microcomputer Handbook 1977-78 (5 available)
Digital PDP-11 Peripherals Handbook 1976 (3 available)
Digital Microcomputer Products Handbook 1985
Digital Logic Handbook 1970
Digital Programming Languages 1970 V2
Digital Labratory Computer Handbook 1971
First Called, First Served! As-Is, where is! All are readable and
appear complete, but remember they are old.
More later;
-jim
---
jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
There's finally an early release of "tumble", my GPL'd
TIFF/JPEG to PDF converter:
http://tumble.brouhaha.com/
There's a lot of work yet to be done, but enough of the
basic functionality is there that it is useful for simple
things.
Two few examples of DEC Field Maintenance Print Sets for the
VT52 and VT78 are available[*] at
http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/dec/doc/mp/
These files show the use of Tumble to produce PDF files from
scanned images and create PDF bookmarks (aka outline) using a
control file. The control file syntax is not yet documented,
as it is undergoing change, but that provides an idea of what
it can do.
Eric
[*] temporarily - they'll soon appear in a more appropriate
place
There's finally an early release of "tumble", my GPL'd
TIFF/JPEG to PDF converter:
http://tumble.brouhaha.com/
There's a lot of work yet to be done, but enough of the
basic functionality is there that it is useful for simple
things.
Two few examples of DEC Field Maintenance Print Sets for the
VT52 and VT78 are available[*] at
http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/dec/doc/mp/
These files show the use of Tumble to produce PDF files from
scanned images and create PDF bookmarks (aka outline) using a
control file. The control file syntax is not yet documented,
as it is undergoing change, but that provides an idea of what
it can do.
Eric
[*] temporarily - they'll soon appear in a more appropriate
place
Hi,
thanks to Sridhar's kind encouragement, I turned on my new DEC 7000.
I just used my special VAX6000 receptacle (that puts 220 V 2 phases
on a 3-phase receptacle in just the right way for the VAX6000 to
work.) I had to change the plug from a 30A to a 20A plug which was
straight forward (almost same shape and dimensions). Plugged it in
and turned it on and it would right work.
I come to like this machine. A bit bulky, very modern looking.
That blower fan is very impressive and it's humming very cool. Not
so squeeky as the VAX6000 and not so blarringly loud as the
11/780. As usual, I had a bit of wobbling to do on the XMI bus to
get all cards tested fine and that works now. This one has two
StorageWorks boxes in its rack and the KZMSA cards. I loaded it
with disks etc and attempted to boot from them.
Turns out that this machine once ran under OSF/1 as all the disk
had OSF/1 bootblocks on them. But unfortunately none of the disks
I had left were actually bootable (missing osf_boot or causing
some panic. So, my question is, where can I get a UNIX system
for this machine? Are there any copies of OSF (bootables) around?
How about DEC-UNIX? NetBSD/Alpha (or FreeBSD for that matter)
won't run until we have fixed lack of an XMI bus driver. Are
there any port-alpha people who are working on this XMI issue? (On
the port-vax side it depends mainly on Ragge and the very few folks
with VAX6000s to do that.)
I tried the KZMSA board out in the VAX6000 just to see if this
really doesn't work. Indeed the card was not detected right
(shows up with ?????? in the SHOW CONFIGURATION). Is there
really nothing one could do to get that to work on VAX6000? Would
it work in a VAX7000?
thanks,
-Gunther
> so I sorted through my last weekend's bait, hooked up my new HSZ40
> (with 50 GB in 4 StorageWorks boxes plus all sorts of tape drives,
> TSZ07, TLZ07, TZ68, and ~88) to my PC for FreeBSD. It's so much
> fun to read a 9-track reel from a FreeBSD PC (just too bad it doesn't
> have a transparent top cover to show off the reels).
>
> I have bulk-erased a bunch of TK50 tapes in the hopes that they
> would work as DLT III and IV tapes as well, but these drives
> still went into write-protect mode. Does anyone here know details
> about the DLT media? I mean it is a well-known fact (and I proved
> it to myself many times) that CompacTape I works just fine as
> CompacTape II. So why not as III and IV? Is it really the tape
> or might it be some notches on the cassette that are used to
> code the kind of tape?
>
> The problem is I didn't get any tape media for my nice DLT tape drives
> and this stuff is so darn expensive if bought new. Any ideas?
I really hope you didn't wreck that TZ86 and TZ88, thankfully these are the
DEC drives and I think they might be more forgiving than something like a
DLT2000 or DLT4000 drive. IIRC, the TZ86 is capable of reading TK50 and
TK70 tapes. There is a drastic difference between TK50/70 and DLT III & IV
media! I don't remember the specifics on the differences, part of it is
that it writes in a different manner, and part is that the tape is
different.
Zane
I have here what looks like a Microchannel Video/Audio subsystem. It has
a Lucent logo on the breakout box. It is a full-length card and 3/4
length daughter card full of PLD and ASICS and other fat SMD chips. There
is a header and 20-way shielded ribbon cable.
The breakout box has two 1/8" jacks marked LEFT - MICROPHONE - RIGHT and
beneath that a slide switch for mono/stereo.
Then two yellow RCAs marked 2 - VIDEO - 1
Beneath that are 8 RCAs in two groups, AUDIO 1 and 2, LEFT/RIGHT,
INPUT/OUTPUT.
On the boards themselves, the main board is marked 'PCI ENCODER VER4' in
solder mask - one big visble chip has:
"LSI" logo; L64745QC-30
JPEG CODER
WK82164P
NNG 9540
6A13COPBFAA
Another similar chip nearby says "DCT PROCESSOR"
Obviously this is a Video / Audio capture subsystem of some kind.
It also is obviously an advanced prototype - the breakout box is a
standard molded plastic 'project box' with 'Brother P-Touch' type lables
on it.
Anyway, rather than put it on eBay (undoubtedly finding out that I have
a priceless artefact that will ensure my happy and contented retirement) I
thought I'd just see if anybody here a.) recognizes it and b.) wants it...
Cheers
John
PS: No, I haven't posted pix yet. I s'pose I could be coerced, tho....
I am looking to purchase ten of these units. Your one will bring it down to 9.
My offer to you is USD75.00 and I can pay you by Visa Credit Card; PayPal or
do a bank TT direct into your nominated bank account. My name is Roger Bell
contact me at bell77(a)bigpond.net.au
>2:28 p.m. -- Secret Service agents shove Reagan into the limousine while
>other agents, with the aide of police, overcome the suspected assailant,
>later identified as John W. Hinckley Jr. 25, of Evergreen, Colo.
Minor piece of trivia... that year there was a TV show in its
first season entitled "Greatest American Hero"... the hero's name
was Hinckley. In the second airing of the opening episode, the
name was covered over by a loud noise, like a plane taking off.
Later in the season, his name was officially changed to Hanley...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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Greetings;
In my endeavor to get my 11/44 totally up and running... I'd like to get a
good condition VT52 terminal for the console. I have 3 VT52's but they are
all in truely horrible shape, especially cosmetically. Does anyone have a
spare VT52 in good condition that they would be willing to sell or trade
for?
Jay West