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by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

Stan Sieler wrote: > Re: > > - the ability to support off topic conversations along with on- > > topic ones without burdening those not interested in one or the other > > - the ability to easily search archives for topics of interest > > - the ability to keep ?threads? of discussion together > > - the ability to categorize these threads for easier research > > That's all easily achievable with the current CC-TALK/CC-TECH. > ...just use a small prefix (from a small set of group endorsed ones). > > E.g.: OT: iraqi playing cards > where "OT" means "Off Topic" > I agree that we could implement that. It becomes a little more complicated when you try to generate the "group endorsed" prefixes and, once you do, keeping those in the public eye so folks use them. I like the idea, though, and think it would make the list easier to use. We already have OT, FS and FA of course. What other prefixes could we have? HW and SW? OS? PRG? HLP? > The inherent problem with the current vcforum web interface is the large > amount of extra work that people need to do to use it. With CC-TALK, all the > current posts are visible (one per line) on my screen. With vcforum, I > have to scroll the index web page to see what sections have new posts. > For each section with a new post, I have to click on it (deciding whether or > not to click-into-new-window or click-into-same-window), just to see the list > of topics in that section. Then I have to potentially scroll (not now, but > later, as more topics are posted) to see which topics have new posts ... > the end result it that it takes me 10 to 20 times longer to "catch up" as > it does with CC-TALK/CC-TECH. I don't think it's all that difficult to navigate although it is different from an email interface and there are disadvantages inherent in the greater flexibility. Once you get used to it, however, I think it takes just as much time to remain "caught up." On the other hand, you can eliminate topics you don't care about a lot easier by simply tracking messages in the forums you are most interested in. If you have no interest in Apple or Unix or the Off Topic discussions you need never visit those boards. CCTalk will always send you those messages. The thing that I like the most about a threaded message board is that you can view the entire discussion without any heavy manipulations. If I want to do that with the mail list I have to either visit the archives or use my mail program to sort on message header (assuming that hasn't been changed mid-thread). As of right now I have nearly 29,000 CCTalk messages in my outlook CCTalk folder. Even with a P4 2.4 and 1GB of RAM resorting that list is slow. > Could this be fixed? Yes. There could be an alternate presentation page which > lists all new posts, one per line ... sortable by topic or date- posted. > I should be able to quickly mark any I wish as "ignore" (aka "delete" in a > mail reader). However, most web based forums use the server to accomplish > updates, as opposed to doing more work just behind the glass (e.g., java > to collect the updates/markings/wishes and then upload the set to the server). > That's easier, of course, but clearly makes for more work and/or slower > response for the user. The "new posts since my last visit" link is my favorite on bigger boards. I hope that this new forum gets the kind of reception that makes that feature useful. If enough people sign up and start using the forums they'll hit "critical mass" which will make them that much more useful. > One person's comments, anyway :) Thanks, Stan! I do appreciate the feedback! Erik

23 years

Dot Matrix Printer Symphony

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

Wow, Either 1. These guys need serious help. 2. These guys are brilliant. They recieved arts funding for the project... (Why couldn't I have thought of that) Doug Jackson Manager - Managed Services (ACT) Citadel Securix Pty Ltd Level 1, 10 Moore St Canberra ACT 2601 Ph: (612) 6290 9011 Fx: (612) 6262 6152 Mob: 0414 986 878 Web: www.citadel.com.au Melbourne - Sydney - Canberra - Brisbane - Hong Kong - Atlanta Any pricing or time figures contained within this email are indicative only, and have been provided for planning purposes only. Please request a quotation from your sales representative prior to undertaking any work. -----Original Message----- From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 1:35 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: OT: Dot Matrix Printer Symphony While looking for something else, I accidentally happened upon a web site pertaining to a "Symphony for Dot Matrix Printers." The URL is: http://theuser.silophone.net//dotmatrix/en/intro.html -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty. CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

23 years

Cromemcos may be available in Michigan (Roger)

by ejchapel＠attbi.com

>At 12:00 PM 4/30/2003 -0500, cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org, your nimble fingers typed: >Re: Cromemcos may be available in Michigan >I'm not big into Cromemcos... but I'm relatively close (3 hours drive) and >may be able to snag these if someone(s) are interested... I am way out here in Washington state. A long way from Michigan. You can unload a C-10 here and I'm good for the cost plus. Also I have been looking for a C-10 monitor pedestal if you see one. Ed Chapel Vancouver, WA

23 years

Auction fraud was the No. 1 Internet-related complaint recorded by the FTC last year.

by claudew＠videotron.ca

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030430/ap_on_hi_te/inte… And thats only the "obvious" scams....think of all the "schilling" and other crap going on....Gave up on all this long time ago...for selling or buying... Later Claude http://computer_collector.tripod.com

23 years

Misc. Stuff Available

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 30, 22:03, Davison, Lee wrote: > According to the help file the DOS software on the Actel site is for the > Activator, not the Activator 2. > > It can be downloaded from here .. > > http://www.actel.com/products/tools/activator/index.html Thanks, Lee! Either I never found that, or I thought it was just for the Activator 2 (since that's what it implies). Anyway, I never downloaded it because it'll take a while at 64kb/s! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years

Apple II APL Board?

by marvin＠rain.org

I picked up a board for the Apple II this last weekend, and am curious if anyone knows anything about it? The silkscreening on the boards is "APL BOARD", and besides an EPROM (Fairchild M88518H?) with "APL" stamped on it, it has what appears to be a centronics printer cabled attached.

23 years

Misc. Stuff Available

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Activator, not the Activator 2. That should read "Activator and the Activator 2." Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years

Misc. Stuff Available

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Hmm... That reminds me to ask: Does anyone have programming software for an Actel Activator (the original one, not an Activator 2)? I've got some devices, the Activator, and the I/O card for a PC, but have never found the software :-( According to the help file the DOS software on the Actel site is for the Activator, not the Activator 2. It can be downloaded from here .. http://www.actel.com/products/tools/activator/index.html Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years

Misc. Stuff Available

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 26, 8:08, Norm & Beth Anheier wrote: > With all this talk of sniping and auctions, I have some more eclectic stuff > available for best offer or trade. I prefer Paypal. > > item 1. > I have a bunch (30?) of unused ACTEL PLCC FPGA ICs: > > A1010A-PLC86C > A1020A-PLC86C > A1280A-PQ160C > > I have the data book on these too. Hmm... That reminds me to ask: Does anyone have programming software for an Actel Activator (the original one, not an Activator 2)? I've got some devices, the Activator, and the I/O card for a PC, but have never found the software :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years

eBay sniping

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I have no problem with sniping, other than that I can't always be around at the last minute. The only time I didn't like being sniped was the first item I lost to this method. Once I understood what was going on, I couldn't understand why bidders would make incremental bids. I usually will post a lower bid, early on. This way, other savy bidders will check what I've previously bid on items and they will either back out or, in those cases that they just have to have an item, they will out bid me. I think it tends to even out the play field. I always look to see what other bidders have been doing. I wouldn't mind having a combination of open and sealed bits. I could then snipe without having to wait till the last minute. Dwight >From: "J.C.Wren" <jcwren(a)jcwren.com> > >Why sniping is good: > > Many people get upset about having auctions sniped. All this garbage about >extending auctions an extra minute, blah blah blah, is just a dumb idea. >The reason I regularly snipe is purely psychological: If you enter a bid >early on in an item, you're expressing an interest. This likely drives the >price up, since *most* people seem unwilling to set hard prices and stick to >them. > > My procedure it to set the price when I notice the item, basically, what's >worth to me. I then track the item, and don't bother bidding if it goes >over my limit. However, if the closing time comes around, and it's still >below my limit, I want until about 3 seconds before close, and submit. > > If you're not fast enough, or haven't set a higher price, you lose. I have >no moral quandries about this. There is nothing that I have, do, or know >that makes me a better bidder than anyone else. Simply the ability to stick >to my price, and not show early interest, driving prices up unnecessarily. > > And as for the "no interest" technique, no one can gripe about that. I've >seen plenty of buyers at junk stores, hamfests, auctions, etc, that >desparately want an item, but make it seem like "eh, whatever". Why? >Because they *know* if you say "Damn, this is the coolest widget ever, one >of only 5 ever made, I *have* to have it!" they're quite likely to clue the >seller in, or in any case, drive the price up. > > Buy low, sell high. To do otherwise is a Enron-esque business model, and >just plain nuts. > > --John

23 years

Tektronix 4010 graphics terminal

by jforbes2＠mindspring.com

I got my Tek 4010 powered up and running. See the link in my sig for some pics and more info. -- Jim Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum! http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2

23 years

OT: iMac

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I was helping my Dad put some things to the local Goodwill today (good >source of Monitors!) and one of the things there was an iMac for $200. >I played around with it for a couple of minutes because it was displaying >all of it's dialogs in french. This leads to two questions: > > 1./ is there a buried internationalizing menu somewhere, > IE, could it be switched over to english? If it was OS X, then maybe (I know you can install other languages, I'm just not sure if you can switch between them once they are installed), but if it was previous to OS X, then no, not to the degree that you were seeing. Rather it must have had a French version of the OS installed. If you decide to buy it, let me know, I can get you a US-English copy of whatever OS version was installed. > 2./ Anybody make PC drivers for the great USB keyboard and mouse? My iMac USB keyboard and mouse worked on Win2k by just plugging them in. They also worked on my PlayStation 2 (well, at least the keyboard did, I don't remember if I plugged the mouse in to it or not). Of course, I lost the right click ability in Windows while using my iMac puck mouse, but at least the mouse (and keyboard) worked without additional drivers. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years

Yet some more

by rborsuk＠colourfull.com

Hi All, Give me a couple of Mocha-chino's and I get all crazy. Okay here's another group of stuff. Books at $2.00 each Mastering Machine Code on your ZX Spectrum - Baker - 1983 MS-DOS/GW Basic reference manual for the Tandy 3000 Part #25-4103 Apple Numerics Manual - 1988 Assorted stuff priced accordingly. PC Sentry - Diagnostic ISA card and manual from TriniTech Inc. $5.00 Beagle Bros Peeks, Pokes and Pointers Poster for Apple II $1.00 Microsoft Developer Network Subscription from 1996 & some 1997 (30+ CD's NT workstation, NT server, Operating systems, developer info. I don't feel like listing all that's in it)(Naturally licensing is your responsibility) $15.00 PCI bus isolation and test card from AZ-COM (allows you to isolate a PCI card under test from the system) $5.00 Same as always. Just let me know what you want. Thanks Rob Robert Borsuk - rborsuk(a)colourfull.com President Colourfull Creations http://www.colourfull.com

23 years

Blow or Suck - Which is Best?

by charlesleecourtney＠yahoo.com

I need to remove several years of accumulated dust and debris from the inside of an HP3000 Series 40. I will remove the boards and vacuum the inside of the cabinet (size of a washing machine), but was wondering what is the best way to remove dust and dirt from the PC cards in a way that will not damage them - mechanically or electrically. My default would be to clean with a shop vacuum, but I was wondering if that might cause static damage to the components on the board? Would a high pressure air compressor be a better choice? Thanks, Lee Courtney The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

23 years

replacement for TIL311 display

by rgill＠innocor.com

Hello; I just noticed your e-mail on the web. I wanted to inform you that Innocor manufactures a direct, drop-in replacement for the TIL311 (INL0397-1) featuring less power, brighter LEDs, lower cost and higher reliability. Pls find the link to our datasheet. If you have any requirements, pls let me know. Regards; Randy http://www.innocor.com/documents/inl0397_v2_iss2.pdf ******************************************* Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 17:00:23 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com <mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com>> Subject: Re: substitute for TI TIL306/307 Display? Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> At 06:01 PM 1/1/03 -0600, you wrote: >On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Joe wrote: >> At 10:51 PM 12/31/02 -0600, you wrote: >> >On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Joe wrote: >> > >> > > Does anyone know of another display that can be substituted for the >> > > TIL 306/307? Here is a data sheet for the 306/307 in case you have a >> > > question about it, <www.alltronics.com/download/TIL306.pdf>. >> > >> > I don't know of an exact replacement offhand, but I thought these were >> > still in production? >> >> Are they? I think mine are about 25 years old. FWIW I went looking for >> some at a large local surplus store and found one that I think is >> prototype. It's built out of clear material instead of red and is marked >> TIXL306 and is date coded 7204 (almost 31 years old!). I went through >> several boxs and THOUSANDs of displays and only found one standard 306 >> and the one prototype. >> >> > How many of these displays are you looking for? I believe I still have >> > a few in my parts bin... >> >> In addition to the one that I found in the store I need three of them. >> Mine were in sockets and the dissimilar metal corrosion has eaten off at >> least one leg off of each of mine. > >Oops, I have TIL311s, not the 306. I was thinking that the 311s were still >in production. I guess the 311 with a built-in BCD controller must still >be useful in current products. The 306/307s also have built in BCD decoders. I've been trying to find a data sheet on the 311 so that I can see what the difference is between it and the 306/307. ********************

23 years

phones and Dictaphone

by c.morris＠townsqr.com

It was a very popular song around 1981. Tommy Tutone's biggest hit, 867-5309 (Jenny). She was the young lady whose number was written ..."on the wall, For a good time, call..." > There was an 867-5309, which matches the name of a song that was popular > some years ago. > reported occasional calls from strangers asking for Jenny (who, I guess, was > a character in the song). > Jeffrey Sharp I've never seen a computer made by them either. Only thing I know is a bad joke: Doctor 1: "Can I borrow your Dictaphone?" Doctor 2: "No, just dial with your finger like everyone else" 8^P -Charles > Speaking of cleaning out the closets. I was helping clean out some stuff from the estate of a deceased writer of computer and electronics books and found a work book for a CPM course that Dictaphone taught. I didn't know that Dictaphone even made CPM computers. This is a thin book and it's pretty elementary but it might be of interst to someone that has a Dictaphone machine or is a CPM collector. > Joe

23 years

D/A Chips

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

These chips interesting to anyone? 10pc LOT RARE PMI D/A CONVERTER ic's DAC88EX http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2525988961 No Affiliation.

23 years

Toshiba Memo Note?

by evan947＠yahoo.com

Hi, anyone have info on an early 1980s gadget called the Toshiba Memo Note? It was called the LC-1018MN in Japan. The only data I've found so far is from the site www.calculators.de, and I found some obscure info about its use as a crypto platform. But I want more! Thanks all, Evan The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

23 years

H89 disk formats?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I've been looking at a pile of disk that I'd collected over a period of years. Most are the typical 10 hard sectored disk, formatted in the same way as HDOS uses. In the pile, I found a few that are marked "format 96". These have the 10 plus index holes but they don't seem to be the normal format. When I attempt to read them, I can only read the first sector. All of the rest don't seem to read. Does anyone know what this was all about? Dwight

23 years

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by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Here's some Next Stations some of you might be interested in. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2725937944&category=1247 No Afffiliation.

23 years

H89 disk formats?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Joe This would explain why I can't read other tracks but doesn't explain why I can only read the first sector of track 0. When I get a chance, I'll put a scope to the signals to see if it also has some changes in sector length or something. The 96 does match to the 80 track drives as 96 tpi. This does make sense. I don't really know if it actually read the first sector completely correct though. It may have read the data and then failed the checksum, if the sector data was twice as long, it would still read the first 256 bytes correctly. Putting one scope channel on the sync output and the other on the data should make it clearer what they are. Having double length sectors would make sense with twice the tracks. This would require less modifications to HDOS in things like directories. Dwight >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >Just as a guess I'd say that they're 96 TPI 80 track disks instead of 40 track disks. I don't know but I'm guessing that the HK normally used 40 track disks but that those disks came from someone had a mod to use 80 track disks. That was pretty common on a lot of the early computers. I did that to my Sanyo and I had a Kaypro that had the Advent Turbo ROM and 80 track drives installed. > > Joe > >At 04:51 PM 4/29/03 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi >> I've been looking at a pile of disk that I'd >>collected over a period of years. Most are the >>typical 10 hard sectored disk, formatted in the >>same way as HDOS uses. In the pile, I found a >>few that are marked "format 96". These have the >>10 plus index holes but they don't seem to be >>the normal format. When I attempt to read them, >>I can only read the first sector. All of the rest >>don't seem to read. Does anyone know what this >>was all about? >>Dwight

23 years

256x4 80NS or faster

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

anyone have any of these floating around? I can't believe I gave 'em all away and now I need to populate a laserjet IIID memory board :(

23 years

FS/FT Items

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I'm looking for either QBUS parts, or $5 + shipping for each of the following.. Trying to clean out my room before I have to move in a few months. - SparcStation 20, 32MB ram, 1x50MHz proc, floppy, 2GB HDD. I have 2 of these to get rid of. - Macintosh IIfx with a pair of 16 channel A/D cards, and some sort of interface software on the drive. It was originally a part of a NMR system, and still has the software on it. Unfortunately, they decided to crush the instrumentation that hooked up to the I/O cards to do the NMR stuff. Has 8MB ram and (I think) a 120MB hdd. - Macintosh Classic II. 80MB HDD, not sure on amount of ram. - Macintosh Plus 1MB - Macintosh Quadra 700, 16MB ram, 230MB HDD. - Mac-plus style keyboards and mice (4pin RJ11 keyboard, DE9 mouse) - PS/2 Model 70, with 6MB ram and an 80MB hard drive. I have at least two to get rid of, but need to find where I stuffed the ram first... - 2 Full-height 50pin centronics SCSI enclosures - HP 9000 model 715/50, I think it has 32MB ram. - IBM RS/6000 7011 Model 220 with 32MB ram, 400MB+ HDD, 2.88MB FDD, Gt1x framebuffer Now, what I'm looking for in trade: + Small-ish (can be lifted by 2 people) PERTEC or SCSI 9 track tape drive, that is manual/autoloading. I don't really want one that's slot load, I rather be able to see it spinning (and possibly manually load it). I use to have one, but it died, and I'd like to get a 'new' one. This would be worth a few things from the above, and I'd probably be willing to pay some money for it. + QBUS PERTEC card. + QBUS RAM card for a PDP-11/23, 128kW or better. + RLV12 + QBUS ethernet card that works with PDP-11 OS's. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years

I live in NYC and have no space for my old Mac... (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

See below. Reply to original sender. Reply-to: SYoshioka7(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:48:24 -0400 From: SYoshioka7(a)aol.com To: chrisa(a)harvestworks.org, pencilbox(a)pencilbox.org, bakermusic(a)mindspring.com, donations(a)worldcomputerexchange.org, donate(a)vintage.org Subject: I live in NYC and have no space for my old Mac... Hi, My name is Stacy Yoshioka and I have a very old Mac computer, monitor and printer that I no longer have space for. I have purchased a PC laptop about a year ago and since I live in a cramped NYC apartment I cannot store it any longer and have finally transfered all of the old info to a PC disk. Anyway, it is a Performa 6360 and the printer is a Style Writer II. The entire system still works and I have the manuals and backup software. I also installed about 100 mb of extra memory when I got it. If any of your organizations could use this machine please let me know. I saved so much money to buy it when I was in college that I can't see just throwing it away. I do not have a car in the city so if any of your organizations pick them up or are easy to get to please let me know as well. Thank You, Stacy Yoshioka Stacy Jin Yoshioka 126 East 103rd Street #27 New York, New York 10029 212-289-2242 646-245-3860 SYoshioka7(a)aol.com -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years

FS/FT Items

by drido＠optushome.com.au

At 05:27 PM 4/29/03, you wrote: >I'm looking for either QBUS parts, or $5 + shipping for each of the >following.. Trying to clean out my room before I have to move in a few >months. >- IBM RS/6000 7011 Model 220 with 32MB ram, 400MB+ HDD, 2.88MB FDD, > Gt1x framebuffer I'd like this. I've got a Dilog DQ130 Qbus card (pertec controller AFAIK) and a Texas Instruments TM10010 Qbus RAM card (128k x 18 bit I thnk), but I doubt it's worth shipping the RS/6000 to Australia :(

23 years

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