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by cb＠mythtech.net

>best price (of whatever >is left): as late as possible. Yeah... when I was at TCF, there was one lady barking "Macs and PCs, two for $5". It was mostly < Pentium 100's or 68k macs, but she had a few early PPCs... if I had a cart I would have grabbed the PPCs at $2.50 each! She did have a PowerMac 5400 that my brother expressed interest in. But then she pointed out to him that it had no logic board or drives... it was just the screen, case, power supply. She dropped the price to $1.00... then told him he could just take it... I think if we waited another minute, she would have offered us money to take it with us (we left it behind... didn't want to carry the heavy MF even if it was free) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 12 months

Northstar File Transfer from PC

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Marvin Maybe this isn't exactly what you are looking for but I'm currently working on some software to transfer entire disk images through the serial port of a H89 to a PC. I have another friend checking out my first version, now. I hope to do a similar things for the N*'s as soon as I get one of these machines up and running ( on my list of things to do ). I suppose that once the image is on the PC, one can modify the image to include any new files, one wants and then transfer it back to the N*. It isn't a nice direct method but my main intent is to get some way to send disk images over the net and not specifically individual files. I haven't fiddled with the N* at all and don't know a lot about it. The H89 has a simple monitor that I use to hand enter a simple bootstrap program. With this, I bring in the rest of the code to run the disk drive. Does the N* have a ROM based monitor? I also have a similar setup for my Poly88 but that is setup for getting code into the Poly88 and tape from the PC. I used this to create code to do the various tape copying functions. I can read code from a cassette tape, transfer it through the serial to the PC and later feed it back through the serial to the Poly88 to write back onto tape. I use a similar bootstrapping code to get things started, through the Poly's monitor. Dwight >From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin(a)rain.org> > >What is the procedure for transfering files to and from a PC using N* >DOS? For text from the N* to the PC, no problem, just print it out to >the terminal (a DOS machine) and capture it. But what about going the >other way, wanting to get information back to the N*? Any information >appreciated! > >------------------------------------------- >ebaY's Security Breach and Coverup >http://www.auctionguild.com/generic110.html

22 years, 12 months

TRS-80 / System 80

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

Alan, I recieved 2 System-80's, and had this fault in both cases. In the first case, there was a memory expansion that was very poorly wired, removing it, cleaning the sockets, and reinstalling the correct memory helped, and it now works a treat. In the second case, there was a disk controller installed in the bottom of the system. I discovered that if the FDC chip was removed, the system booted. I de-installed this modification, and the system works! (Later, I found out that the random characters was a symptom of the system waiting for a boot floppy [which I didn't have]) There is also a flexible cable between the video and the cpu board that could have faulty contacts. Giving this a clean should help. Hope that this helps. regards Doug Jackson Manager - Managed Services (ACT) Citadel Securix Pty Ltd Level 1, 10 Moore St Canberra ACT 2601 Ph: (612) 6290 9011 Fx: (612) 6262 6152 Mob: 0414 986 878 Web: www.citadel.com.au Melbourne - Sydney - Canberra - Brisbane - Hong Kong - Atlanta Any pricing or time figures contained within this email are indicative only, and have been provided for planning purposes only. Please request a quotation from your sales representative prior to undertaking any work. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Greenstreet [mailto:aeg@paradise.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 8:52 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: TRS-80 / System 80 Hi All I have just acquired a System 80 MkII (distributed in Australasia by Dick Smith Electronics). On power up I get the LED power light ok but a screen full of random characters, the reset switch does nothing. I've had it apart and there are no loose connections or chips on the two main boards and no sign of any burnt or expired components. Has anyone had similar problems and / or knows what the problem is? Thanks Alan CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

22 years, 12 months

Interesting aircraft memory and Bendix computer ad on eBay

by jpl15＠panix.com

Some eBay gleanings of possible interest: Computer memory unit CP548/ASA made by Sikorsky... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2413856214&ca… Bendix G-20 advertising ephemera: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21092&item=360628066… Big Old Iron fans should maybe check this one out. Cheerz John

22 years, 12 months

Trenton Computer Festival

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I also went to TCF on Saturday. I saw lots of Sparc Stations too. Didn't buy one. But, maybe next year. No TRS-80's that I saw (except for a Model 100 with a broken spacebar), One Amiga 500 that I couldn't carry home with all the stuff the seller wanted to sell with it. I did get a ROM 01 Apple ][gs with 2mb RAM, 3.5" FDD, 5.25" FDD, KB, Mouse, Joystick, Cables, PrintShop GS for $7.00 I bought an unknown Newer Upgrade card for $15 and got home to find it to be a G3 250/125. So that was a good deal. I also got two others for $10.00 each that turned out to be PowerComputing 604e 225/45 and a 200/50. So the G3 went in my 8500 (Since it didn't work in my PowerCenter 132) and the 225/45 went in the Power Center. Lots of other odds and ends there. But not too much of a selection. I saw one Vic-20, no Commodore 64's. Though there were some carts for them around. Hardly any video game consoles at all. No Apple II's, other than a few gs'es. No Next Stations. The Flea was a little smaller than last year, but there were definitely bargains to be found. I also got a JEIDA Memory card (16mb) for my ThinkPad 510cs for $5.00. That was a nice find. Also a Tandy JP-250 Printer (Canon BJ-10ex or similar relabled) with an extra cart and two dead batteries I tossed for $3.00. Printer works great if I use an IBM Proprinter Driver or a Canon BJ-130e driver. This is a great little printer that fits in my Laptop bag, and is good for taking on trips or meetings along with my ThinkPad 600e. I also saw a few HP Omnibooks, the old ones with the attached mouse that used a PCMCIA Hard Drive. I thought about buying one. But I decided I didn't want one that badly to take a chance on getting one I couldn't fix easily or cheaply. I didn't get a TRS-80 Model I or III or my holy grail... An LNW-80. But, I'll keep looking... But definitely the show is moving away from classic computers and becoming more and more PC/Mac. I think it's just because the price of the booths in the flea is just too high for the person looking to get rid of stuff in their garage. I think it was on the order of $100 with one ticket for admission. I think it used to be $20 - $35 years ago. And they'd have HUNDREDS of sellers in the flea. It looked like less than 100 Vendors this time around. I didn't count. It was worth going to, and I'll go back next year... Regards, Al Hartman The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

22 years, 12 months

More DEC Stuff Coming

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, Got this from the guy in Houston who supplied the VAX VLC machines. Contact him (best) or me if you are interested. >Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 23:33:16 -0500 (CDT) >From: sandmann(a)clio.rice.edu (Charles Sandmann) >Subject: More DEC Stuff Coming ... > >I was just notified today by the ChemE department head at Rice that it >is time to clean out one of the labs. It has mostly PDP stuff, some >VAX stuff, documentation, some media. KZ's going to make a rough list >so we can estimate the volume. The VAX stuff has been used in the last >year, but most of the PDP stuff has been off for 8 years or more, so >may need some TLC when being checked out the first time (if you don't >know about power supply caps, you probably shouldn't ask :-) I've made >some promises for some of this stuff already - but if there is something >you are dying for, it might be a good time to remind me. Between the >Rice stash and the AspenTech stash, there should be lots of machines >for everyone. > >If Intel IRMX (?) means anything to anyone, bug me. I think thats the >system name - and they are rare (but not DEC stuff ...) > >I think we will keep the extra RS6000/AIX IBM systems for spare parts >for clio - but you never know... > >I know there are some VT103s (VT100 systems with built in dual TU58s >and QBUS backplanes) - lots of QBUS cards, an 11/23+ rack mount system, >BA123 based MicroVAX II with ESDI and RQDX3/RD54 disks. I think the >11/23+ has an RQDX1 with RD51 drive (don't cringe!), dual RX02s >(I have a requirement to be able to read some media on these first!) > >There is a requirement to take lots of pictures for our scrapbook :-)

22 years, 12 months

Amiga video

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Anybody have a cheap 390682-01 amiga to vga adapter or know where I can get one? I am trying to use a NEC 3DS monitor on my Amiga A1200 to free up my 1084 monitor for my A500 and C128. I tried using a custom cable from IEC but it doesnt sync all the time (its just a wire thru while the silver amiga part has a buffer chip inside).

22 years, 12 months

Another rubber capstan turns to mush

by chuck＠mail.schillernet.us

Hello All - bah, was just playing with my QIC drive, a WangTek 5150ES (Using dos tar!) and halfway thru the first listing tape stops. Turns out the rubber what drives the tape has gotten very soft. Anybody have a box full of cheap replacements? (pic here: http://mail.schillernet.us/wangtek/ ). I'd like to keep it working, but paying for depot service ( like http://www.eds-sales.com/EDS-QICPG.htm ) on a 150Mb drive is, uh, a questionable investment. --Chuck

22 years, 12 months

HP 9000 300 data acquisition card - Infotek AD200

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi Joe, I had a good look at the card last night - I'm 9(.9% certain that it is an AD card. The rear panel connector is marked MITSUMI CINCH - M57. It has an onbaord analog to digital converted type AD578ZLN - looks as though it is 12 bit 333 kHz sampling rate from the data sheet. There are two three way jumpers and a single 8-way DIP rocker switch assembly. I've no idea how to set it up.... Cheers Peter _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059

22 years, 12 months

Brainiac goes for over $300

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check it out at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=2725013336

22 years, 12 months

ST Falcon Goes high on eBay

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

This ST Falcon goes for over $300. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=2725518828

22 years, 12 months

HP site

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Had anyone run into this site before? I just came across it, and there's lots of VERY kewl HP1000 stuff listed there on a CD they put out. I cant seem to figure out from the site how you get the CD, but they say it's free (at least the components). Some of the entries in the library look very interesting! Looks like they have C compilers, 8080 assemblers, etc. http://www.interex.org/tech/csl/RTE/ for an overview... click on the "CSL" link Jay West

22 years, 12 months

My new SparcStation

by cb＠mythtech.net

I just came from the Trenton Computer Fest... picked myself up a SparcStation 4. I probably over paid at $20 for the CPU with Solaris preloaded, a keyboard and cable, and a mouse and pad.... but since I already owned a monitor, it seemed like a fair price to have another toy to play with (really the fact that I have a 20 inch monitor for one already was the only reason I bought it. I see that monitor just about every day at work and I've been itching to get a computer to use with it, just to see what a SparcStation is like). So now my question is... anyone have any link recommendations of where to go to learn about these things? I'm about to do some googling, but I'm sure some of you already know good sites to visit. Other than that, I didn't buy anything of great interest. Just a few odds and ends of parts, like some extra mac drive sleds (25 cents each). I would have bought more stuff if I had brought a cart or something with me, but I just didn't feel like carrying everything. Next year my brother and I will be better prepared. We plan to bring a folding luggage cart each... THEN we will buy more toys. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 12 months

HP Amigo command set and HFS disk format

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Peter Brown" <peterbrown10(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > It looks as though the general form of the commands is very similar to CS80 > format but the commands themselves are different - I wonder why HP did > this? Amigo was the project name for the computer sold as the HP 300 (not 9000 Series 300). I believe it was the first cut at designing a general protocol for communicating with storage (and maybe other) devices over HP-IB, and I think the name got stuck on the protocol as well. CS/80 came later, and I think it was informed somewhat by lessons learned from the HP 300 experience. And I think SS/80 was a sort of subset of CS/80 for lower-end storage devices. There was another protocol, CIPER, that was used for communicating with printers over HP-IB. At least that's what I remember from working on HP3000s in the 1980s. -Frank McConnell

22 years, 12 months

HP64000

by david_comley＠yahoo.com

I brought home an HP64000 development system today. It has the emulation pods for the 68000 and 8080A processors, an HP-IB cable plus some other odds and ends in the backpack. A peak at the back indicated that it is crammed full of cards and 128K memory. Unfortunately what it doesn't have is either software or manuals, so this is a request to the group for help in that respect. I believe that there was a ton of software originally available for this unit to support various options and development tools, and I think what I am looking for is at least the operating system on floppy so that I can boot it up. Any background material on the 64000 would also be appreciated. I was impressed by the fact that it weighs almost as much as a model 33 Teletype yet it still has a handy reinforced carrying handle on the side for those portable sessions... Regards, Dave The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

22 years, 12 months

AS/400 Operations Navigator

by marvin＠rain.org

I have the CD titled "AS/400 Operations Navigator" using Client Access for Windows 95/NT and the Manual "Client Access for Windows 95/NT - Setup V3R2M0". Since I have absolutely no use for it, $5.00 including US shipping to whoever wants it. ------------------------------------------- ebaY's Security Breach and Coverup http://www.auctionguild.com/generic110.html

22 years, 12 months

HP Amigo command set and HFS disk format

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > You asked me about this a few days ago but I've been busy and > forgot to reply. I have a document called "HP Flexible Disk Drive > Command Set" that I'm pretty sure contains a description of the > Amigo command set. It's an appendix to the HP 9114 disk drive > service manual. It's 36 pages long. I can send you a copy or I'll > send it to Al K. or anyone else that wants to scan it and post it on > the web somewhere. I think Joe sent me a copy of this a while back. Anyway, I fished it out of the pile in the living room and fed it to the scanner, with the result being at <http://www.reanimators.org/tmp/hpfddcs.pdf> (1183KB) for the time being. Joe, are you sure this was in the 9114 service manual? Not the 9121 or 9133? I'm just thinking it wouldn't make much sense being in an HP-IL drive manual. -Frank McConnell

22 years, 12 months

Northstar File Transfer from PC

by marvin＠rain.org

What is the procedure for transfering files to and from a PC using N* DOS? For text from the N* to the PC, no problem, just print it out to the terminal (a DOS machine) and capture it. But what about going the other way, wanting to get information back to the N*? Any information appreciated! ------------------------------------------- ebaY's Security Breach and Coverup http://www.auctionguild.com/generic110.html

22 years, 12 months

AMIGO command set and HFS disk format

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi Joe, > It's definitely an Amigo drive then. I've found some other docs that confirm this. >My initial thought was the Amigo wouldn't suppport HFS but after >some >thought >I don't see any reason that it wouldn't. When I catalog the drive with a device that only supports CS80 (my HP 3562A Spectrum analyser) I see only one file (called SYSTEM_SA). When I attach the drive to an HP 9000 332 CPU, it finds the SYSTEM_SA file and then displays something like 'Secondary loader v 56.6' - I assume that this is the part that provides support for HFS. Once the secondary loader has done its stuff the 9000 332 will catalog the drive as usual and displays HFS as the filesystem. <snip> >bytes is not the same as the pair that would be returned by a CS80 >drive. Ignore my comments on this - my mistake. The numbers come from the 'Identify' CS80 command that is used at power on by the system controller to identify devices attached to the HPIB bus. The values 1 and 15 are consistent with the 9134x <snip> >That's odd. Is the drive bad? Most systems identify a 9134 as a 9133 >with >no floppy drive. I should have been more specific - the drive that fails is the 9134x - it fails because it is an amigo drive not a CS80. <snip> Thanks for the info Joe. I need to explain this one more fully! The HP 7907 is a 20.5MB (fixed) + 20.5MB (removable) HPIB controlled disk drive. The removable cartridge is a 9 inch by 9 inch by 1 inch box containing a single 8 inch platter. The drive wieghs about 60 lbs - it comes in the same width box as an HP 9000 300. It looks as though the removable portion of the drive is primarily for backup as separate panel controls are provided for Fixed->Removable and Removable-> fixed. I have one of these - I've just been using it for testing the CS80 / LIF reader software that I've been writing. The HP 7906 is a 5 MB (fixed) + (5 MB) (removable) (I think) MAC controlled HDD. I have one attached to my 5451C Fourier Analyser. It uses a 13037 interface card in the HP 1000 computer plus an external controller marked 13037A. I think that the controller can control up to 8 drives at once. The removable cartridge is around 17 inches in diameter. The drive weighs a lot - it takes two people to lift. My problem is that I have software on 7906 removable cartridges that I need to back-up. If I can find an HPIB controlled version of the 7906 then I may be able to support it with the HPIB reader software. Do you have any more information about the 12745C/D MAC to HPIB converter? - this sounds as though it will do the job! I've down-loaded the command set documentation that Frank has scanned etc. It looks as though it may be what I'm looking for re. amigo command set. Interestingly the docs themselves do not seem to use the word amigo anywhere?? As usual Joe, many thanks for taking the time to look this stuff up! - hopefully we should all end up with an application that will let us back-up and share our age-ing software. Do you have any info on how HFS works? Cheers Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

22 years, 12 months

HP 9000 300 data acquisition card - Infotek AD200

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi All, I've just acquired an HP 9000 series R332. In the back of it amongst the usual HPIB / GPIB cards there is a card marked Infotek Systems AD200 Converter, \ Assy 900-13992 rev E - I assume that this is some sort of data acquisition card. Does anyone have details of the card specification / the software required to drive it? Cheers Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

22 years, 12 months

HP Amigo command set and HFS disk format

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi Frank, Thanks for scanning and posting this document. I've had a brief read through and it may be what I need - I'll have a deeper look this evening. It looks as though the general form of the commands is very similar to CS80 format but the commands themselves are different - I wonder why HP did this? Cheers Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059

22 years, 12 months

Fw: Viewfax 258

by bob.c＠dial.pipex.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Clark To: mel(a)pullen.com ; danny(a)spesh.com ; Glyn Philips ; Lindsay Reid Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: Viewfax 258 My god what a week this has been for finding old friends. First Bill Olivier, then Sue wakes me up this morning (or afternoon possibly) - there's a Lindsay Reid on the phone, would I like to talk to him? What, talk to Lindsay for the first time in 15 years, yawn oh ok then if I must. This three days after we had complained that Lindsay had gone completely unfindable on the web, and was obviously dead. What we didn't do of course was try www.viewfax.com. Lindsay was ringing to ask if anyone remembers or better still knows a man >from the olden pirate radio days called Richard Fox-Davies, aka Dick. This name rings strong bells with me, but I can't remember why. Anyone? (My extensive researches this afternoon reveal that his books for kids are still popular in Western Australia, assuming this is the same guy: http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au:90/search/aFox-Davies/afox+davies/1,3,25,B… xact&FF=afox+davies+dick&1,2 ) This may be a justified cause for an NTK (http://www.ntk.net/) appeal Dan, because... ... the good news is that Lindsay still has Viewfax 258 backed up on 5.25" floppy disks. There's quite a few disks, and we'd have to sort through them somewhat to find the Gnomey bits. But Lindsay is happy to loan his disks to Glyn the man with the archaic hardware, all he needs is his address. Then he'd like his disks back. I figure we could probably blow the lot onto the first quarter inch of a CD for him. So our dream may come true and we'll have both the Gnome on Prestel and the Gnome at Home splurged all over our shiny new web site. Meanwhile, please admire my wonderfully wonky first-stab character set one more time... Bob PS Late-breaking news, Peter Turnbull rediscovered too: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2003-January/014196.html [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of viewfax7.jpg]

22 years, 12 months

Heathkit EC-1

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >>>From: "Ethan Dicks" <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >>> >>>--- "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> An interesting side note. The power steering of your >>>> auto is an example of an analog fluid amplifier. >>>> Dwight >>> >>>I don't think _my_ auto (1968 Beetle) is an example of that. :-) > > Do you mean that it doesn't have hydraulic brakes? :-) I expect that the vacuum advance on the distributor would also qualify. > > Joe > Hi Hydraulic brakes don't amplify unless they use a booster. It is true that most drum brakes amplify when stopping while moving forward. Many cars of this time frame may not have a vacuum advance. I know my Fiat Spider doesn't( I think the VW's did though ). Still, most any auto is just full of analog computing elements. Dwight

22 years, 12 months

ClassicCmp Auction Site?

by jss＠subatomix.com

Forgive me if this has already been discussed today; I don't have time at the moment to scan the entire thread. With this latest round of discussion about eBay, the thought crossed my mind that maybe we need our own WWW auction site. It would only contain classic computers and related items, and it could be designed in such a way that would please a large number of list members and colleagues, including those who avoid eBay. Could I hear some opinions on this, please? My WWW-related programming skills -- not my traditional forte -- have seriously improved since the last time we discussed ideas for the CC site. In fact, I've been doing it for money at my workplace for the last few weeks. For several months now, I've been increasingly interested in implementing some of the ideas I've had for ClassicCmp improvements, and if people think it is a good idea, an auction subsite would make for a very interesting project. Don't worry; there are no weblogs up my sleeve. :-) -- Jeffrey Sharp

22 years, 12 months

FS/FT Items

by pat＠purdueriots.com

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 philip(a)awale.qc.ca wrote: > > On 29-Apr-2003 Patrick Finnegan wrote: > > I'm looking for either QBUS parts, or $5 + shipping for each of the > > following.. Trying to clean out my room before I have to move in a few > > months. > > > > - SparcStation 20, 32MB ram, 1x50MHz proc, floppy, 2GB HDD. > > I have 2 of these to get rid of. > > I'd be interested in one of these. Or have they be claimed already. > Could you give me an estimate on shipping to Québec (J0B 2C0) ? All of the sparcstation 20's have been taken. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

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