test-drb

test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

101090 discussions

by brian.roth＠fnfg.com

Can't remember who was looking for this but.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3023855791&category=41081 Brian Roth Network Administrator A+ N+ CNA CCNA Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com ***************************************************************************** ********************* The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or make copies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** ***************************************************************************** ********************* BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:roth, brian TEL;WORK:2186 ORG:;Network Services TEL;PREF;FAX:716-625-0012 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:brian.roth@fnfg.com N:roth;brian X-GWUSERID:1372 END:VCARD

22 years, 11 months

Fwd: [swap] Asante Nubus 100 Mbps Fast Ethernet Adapter

by cb＠mythtech.net

Someone on this list was just asking about 10/100 NuBus ethernet cards for the Mac. I saw this posting today, figured I would forward it along. These go quick, so don't be surprised if it is already sold. As usualy, reply to them, not to me. ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 5/15/03 1:19 AM Received: 5/15/03 9:13 AM From: Lorraine Kerwood, raino(a)mindspring.com To: LEM Swap List, lem-swap(a)mail.maclaunch.com Go flying with your connection to your network! Still in shrink wrapped, unopened box. AsanteFAST 10/100 adapter for Nubus. Systems supported; Macintosh computers with NuBus slots, including Power Macintosh family, Quadra family, Mac II family, Centris 650, Performa 600, and duo dock stations. OS 7 and higher. Need cash. Make offer. Need to buy cat 5 cable and jacks for a comp lab. Cashiers check or money order only. Shipping from Eugene, OR 97402 raino ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

North Start operating System etc.

by graeme＠davies4924.fsnet.co.uk

Help, I have a North Star with Quad density floppies. Unfortunately I do not have any software, operating system etc, can any one point me in the right direction please. Regards Graeme

22 years, 11 months

Cassette Media

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/14/2003 9:09:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cb(a)mythtech.net writes: > I just aquired a ClubMac tape drive that I want to test. It is a rebadged > Teac MT-2ST/N50 cassette drive. I'm hunting around for info, and it looks > like that uses a 600XD cassette. > > A regular audio tape cassette fits in it. Does anyone know if I can use > regular audio tapes? Maybe a particular style of audio tape? > > I really just want to test the drive to see if it works, so if an audio > tape will work long enough to write some data and read it again to make > sure the drive functions, that should be enough. I don't really want to > plunk down $15 for a data cassette for it to find that the drive is dead. > > I have a number of data cassette tapes still in original packaging. A maxell CS-600XD says 600feet length, 16,000ftpi and D/CAS-86 compatible. Have no idea what that means. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

22 years, 11 months

Searching for PCjr software title: MasterType (Bounty)

by jplist＠kiwigeek.com

Greetings; I've had a request from a friend who is trying to track down a copy of MasterType for PCjr. He's willing to pay a reasonable bounty for it, but isn't going to pay a Lords ransom. Thanks all; JP Hindin

22 years, 11 months

Looking to buy Ohio Scientific Challenger

by vcc＠mycroftinc.com

Hi all. I'm in the market for any Ohio Scientific Challenger machines. If you've got one you'd consider selling, please contact me at this e-mail address. Thanks! Sellam Ismail 925/294-5900

22 years, 12 months

[article] France's Minitel: 20 years young

by vaxzilla＠jarai.org

I noticed this relevant article on the BBC site this morning. Aside >from a one or two inaccuracies (i.e. Minitel preceding the Internet), and this being kind of a filler story, it's good to see classic computing getting coverage in the news. -> France's Minitel: 20 years young -> -> The history of the internet is measured in dog years - -> if you've been using it for 12 months, you're an old hand; -> since the 1990s, and you're a veteran. -> -> But as far back as 1983, a band of pioneers started using -> electronic networks to communicate, share information and -> work more efficiently. -> -> No, not Silicon Valley geeks, nor US military scientists - -> but ordinary French people, long derided as the worst of -> technophobic old Europe. -> -> Minitel, France's precursor to the internet, is 20 years -> old, and rumours of its demise have repeatedly proved -> exaggerated. -> -> [...] Full article: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3012769.stm> -brian.

22 years, 12 months

Leaving the Hobby

by acme＠ao.net

> I am leaving the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing. I will not > participate in any discussion of the reason. The decision has been made. Thank you for your contributions to this list. May you life be long and happy. Best regards, Glen Goodwin 0/0

22 years, 12 months

Got Picture? Anyone got a link to a picture of a Televideo 2605?

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Anyone got a link to a picture of a Televideo 2605? If it's the one I remember... Televideo's PC/AT Color screen and a box on the side holding 1 10mb hard drive and 1 5.25 floppy. Thanks

22 years, 12 months

Cool Find at Auction Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Picked up a iMMIX videocube today auction and have been trying to find out more about it on the web? Most of the links are bad that have gotten back doing a google search. In the same lot was a PowerPC 8100/100 tower and a 6116CD.

22 years, 12 months

Oldest computer still in current use

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> On another list I am on, we were discussing why DOS is still used today >> (basic answer, because its working just fine, so why upgrade). >> The following questions were posed that I don't know the answer to, but >> someone here might. > >The questions are meaningless without clarification and/or parameters. I was trying to leave it vague, specifically because I WANTED to elict discussions like "Does Voyager count?". I wanted to see what the general opinions of list members were regarding what they felt was the oldest computer or computer system still in regular use. If I tried to clarify it too much, then I risked people not answering because they felt it didn't qualify (I'll be the judge of what I feel doesn't qualify for myself, but I wanted all opinons regardless). >> 1: What is the oldest computer or comptuer system still in normal >> operational use > >You havn't even clarified whether you mean individual machine, or design. >Individual machine: stonehenge >design: abacus Although both are valid, I was really after an electronic computer (although I don't care if it is digital or analog). Actually, answers like these are why I left it vague. I hadn't even thought about either answer, and both are fully valid. They are old "computing" systems, still operating today. Had I clarified my question with specific parameters, then you might not have suggested them as possible answers. >> 2: What is the oldest that is connected to the internet > >Continuously connected? or just the oldest machine that is now connected? >For example: if today somebody connects a Univac, would that count? >Are you really after which machine is the oldest of those that are >connected? or are you REALLY after whgich machine has been connected >longest? I'm just curious what the oldest someone has gotten connected to the internet is. So someone finding a way to connect a Univac, even if it is just for 10 minutes to see if it can be done would be acceptable to me. This question had a 2nd part to it that asked what was the oldest that was hosting a web site (although in rethinking my own question, I would accept any kind of public accessable internet connected server be it web, ftp, telnet, or whatever). So this part would imply a longer duration connection. BUT, you also bring up an interesting 4th question... what computer has been connected to the internet the longest (and in addition, which one has the longest single continious uptime of internet connection and how long is/was that) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 12 months

StorageWorks question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Wonder if Storageworks ever offered > an SDI/RA* series converter? Now that would be nice! Unfortunatly to the best of my knowledge they didn't. Something like that would be nice for my MicroVAX III. Zane

22 years, 12 months

smartRAID Century and Millenium controller manual

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found this while cleaning. Does anyone need it? DPT SmartRAID Century Millenium Intelligent Raid, SCSI & Fibre Channel Controllers User's Manual. Joe

22 years, 12 months

64 pin PLCC socket

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

A month or so ago someone on the lsit was fussing that they couldn't find any ZIF type PLCC sockets. I picked up a small cirucit board that has a Textool 64 pin PLCC ZIF socket on it. You can have it for the cost of shipping if you need it. The ZIF socket is mounted in a soldered on socket but isn't soldered itself. The socket is bolted to a metal plate that's bolted to the circuit board. You'll have to take ti apart yourself. Joe

22 years, 12 months

Cool new find!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Went to one of my favorite scrounging places today and found that they had a forest of HP cabinents! They had all been dumped off of a truck and were piled up and leaning on each other like a bunch of dominoes. I stood up as many as I could and nearly lost three fingers in the process when a HP tape drive swung open and scissored on my hand! Luckily someone else was there to grab the drive and swing it closed. But it was worth it! I found a lot of HP 7970E tape drives, a bunch of HP 7912 disk drives (and some of them even say that their heads were locked down!), a HP Multiprogrammer, a bunch of HP power supplies AND (drum roll!) ONE LOADED HP 1000! This beast is a 2117F and has the floating point unit, an expansion chassis, a 13037D (MAC?) disk drive interface, a 7906D disk drive and a 7970 Tape drive and even the battery power backup. The computer is LOADED. It has 3x 256k (words) high performance memory boards, 2x 512k HS error correcting memory baords, an ECC memory controller, a I/O Buffer card, two sets of 7970 tape drive controller cards, two Line Printer controller cards, a time base card, a 13037 interface card, an HP-IB interface and three BACI (communications) cards and the manadatory MEM, DC PC and Mem Protect cards. The expansion chassis has three programmable direct connect serial interfaces, a BUS I/O card, and two more BACI cards. I got EVERYTHING that wasn't nailed down including the cables! The CPU has the followoing Loader ROMs installed; 264x Terminal, "12992-50000", 79xx Disk and 7905/20 Disk. Does anyone know what the "12992-50000" is? 12992 is the right pre-fix for the loader rom PNs but I've heard of a -50000 ROM and it's not listed in any of the docs that I can find. Joe

22 years, 12 months

Working 8" Floppy drives??? (from originator)

by nick＠4realworld.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you for your replies! From today's digest, they are: ?. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Fred Cisin, from an earlier digest) 2. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Ethan Dicks) 4. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Jochen Kunz) 7. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Peter Turnbull) 11. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Tony Duell) 12. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Tony Duell) Including all of these messages in my reply would be a misuse of bandwidth. Please see the original text of the replies. ? Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Fred Cisin) from yesterday's digest? Fred asks if we have considered substituting 1.2M 5.25" drives. Hmmmm. I didn't know there were such drives. I know of DSDD 360K 5.25 drives and 1.44M 3.5 drives, even 720K 5.25 drives, but not 1.2M 5.25 drives. On the general subject of using a substitute drive. I have actually been considering if this could be done. I have not suggested doing that because I need to find out the feasibility. I would hope we could at least get into the 1990s with a 1.44M 3.5 in floppy drive. 2. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Ethan Dicks) 4. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Jochen Kunz) 7. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Peter Turnbull) 12. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Tony Duell) These replies will probably be helpful to someone with a hardware background (which I'm not). They point out the complexities of substituting one type of drive for another. This level of complexity is about what I expected. 11. Re: Working 8" Floppy drives??? (Tony Duell) Your answer is not silly at all. I didn't know whether such drives would be very rare or plentiful in the "vintage" market. I see now that there are "plenty" of them. The obvious questions, once I know what drives are compatible, are: Are they actually for aale? How much will each cost? What condition are they in? I don't think my client is prepared to pay for "priceless antiques". He considers these to simply be old hardware that he needs to buy. The client has been repairing the drives for years. They are in heavy constant use. I get the impression that they are simply getting too fragile to repair. The client seems to have the impression that 8" floppy drives are very hard to find. While I think that upgrading the system to be based on, say, 1990 technology rather than 1980 technology is a good idea, I am sure they can make the existing system work for quite a while with an adequate supply of replacement drives. Regards, Nick Garnett ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

22 years, 12 months

PS/1 for sale. Offers invited.

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/13/2003 4:04:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hofmanwb(a)worldonline.nl writes: << A charity I do some work for has an IBM PS/1 they would wamt to sell. 80386/16. 40 Mb HD, color monitor, dutch handbook. Location Arnhem, The Netherlands. >> That sounds like the 2121 model which uses the display to power the CPU. Worth maybe $20USD

22 years, 12 months

OT: Voyager watts

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Plutonium is an extremely toxic metal. 1 microgram will kill you damn >quick. >Plus it's readily absorbed by tissue, which means everywhere you have a Pu >speck, you're irradiating tissue with ionizing radiation in a few centimeter >radius. Not good for a long term outlook. Ok, that answered the other question I just posed, that is, how dangerous is it. Sounds like its some pretty nasty stuff so an explosion WOULD be of actual concern. > Incidently, the tree huggers worries on this matter are not completely >unfounded. Because of launch weight issues, the shielding material is not >really designed to survive reentry. And add to it like Dwight said, NASA's track record for screwing things up... and yeah, I guess there was a good cause for concern. I could see it being less of an issue in the past when NASA spent tons and tons of money on a single probe, but these days, when they seem hell bent on getting the cost under that of a VW Bug, I would expect more accidents to occur. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 12 months

PCjr with Racore HDD expansion - setup help!

by nampcjr＠yahoo.com

Hello to you all with a PCjr still lying around dormant in the dust! I have recently aquired a Racore HDD expansion chassis (Model 1500/1501) . There was no doubleheight sidecar with it, but I have normal and DMA extras to install. A gentlemen from "Computer Reset" believed the system used the DMA sidecar, but for the life of me, I can not get power to the unit. The expansion chassis does not have the standard power supply found on the floppy units. It has, instead, a powerboard, but where the power input would be on the floppy units, there is instead a serial port.If anyone has the setup instructions for this model or knows off hand how to set it up, Id appreciate the help in getting this neat "extra" setup and working. Thanks Brian The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

22 years, 12 months

OT: Voyager watts

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> > >>From what I remember, those probes (and most (all?) other deep space probes, I >>think), use a radioisotope decay generator for power. This is a >>sub-critical-mass nuclear power plant; it uses the heat produced by a >>near-critical lump of plutonium to generate electricity, rather then using >>fission to produce heat to produce electricity. > >So is this the power supply all those whiney people were bitching about >NASA trying to put into a Mars probe? They were all afraid the probe >would explode during launch and be ground zero of a nuclear blast (or >some other most likely vagely based on reality doomsday outcome activists >are notorious for). > >-chris ><http://www.mythtech.net> > Hi You can't even get a pile of plutonium of greater than critical mass to blow up, by it self. It will just get hotter and hotter until is melts or if contained long enough to vaporize. To make a bomb you need to increase the neutrons quickly. In a bomb, this is done with a thing called a trigger. What most where worried about was just the accidental spread of radioactive material in the atmosphere. I don't know about you but I don't like breathing that stuff if I don't have to. The problem is that NASA doesn't have a good track record for using common sense to avoid accidents. I'm still in favor of them using the radioactive power sources for the probes, I just wish it was someone else determining when and how it was safe to launch them. Dwight

22 years, 12 months

Preserving ancient media (was Re: VCFe Munich report)

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > True, but I doubt that Hans or any of the rest of us are planning on > > trashing the originals after they've been copied. > > Maybe not on this list, but I have seen it happen far too often > elsewhere. People think the latest/greatest storage media must be more > reliable that something that's rather more ancient... For some of the stuff I'm copying to more modern media, I have to keep the originals, even if it becomes unreadable, in order to be legal. In some cases I've had to archive the original material, and then reuse the original Media (RL02's come to mind). > > I think the thing to remember is, just because you've transferred > > something from original media to "modern" (for the moment) media, you > > aren't off the hook forever. Those same copies will have to be > > copied to "modern" media at some point in the future. Depending on > > I would never want to rely on this happening, simply because it won't > always happen. People forget, or they assume tbat nobody will ever what > 'that old file'. And then it's lost for ever. I'm trying the following with my archive of DEC stuff. 1. I have the archive on my fileserver (I prefer keeping copies on two different spinning hard drives). 2. I have two backup copies, one I keep, and one my parents keep. 3. I update #2 when additions are made to #1, keeping the previous backups. Zane

22 years, 12 months

VCFe Munich report

by ljw＠formula1.demon.co.uk

I spent last weekend at the European Vintage Computer Fair (www.vcfe.org) in Munich. I didn't take anything along for display myself, but spent the time looking at what the others had brought. I guess my favourites were the CP/M portables, since I haven't played with one for years. Gaby Chaudry (www.gaby.de) had brought along a Kaypro and an Osborne 1. I'm not sure how we ever survived with the tiny screen on the latter. Other highlights: a nice display of disk drive head assemblies, from the huge to the miniature; evolution of the Mac LC (I'm not into these, but it was interesting); an IDE interface for the Z80 (if they ever do an 8080 version I'll take one); lots of old machines doing very impressive things, showing that there is still effort going into to programming and updating. I suppose the thing which came home to me was how there was an explosion of PC design in the late 70s/early 80s before things converged to the IBM/Apple paths. Tours were running to see the Cray-4 & Cyber 960 (www.cray-cyber.org) and I went along for a look. The temperature reminded me of when I had my 360/30 running. These machines are available for remote access, the Cray runs 24 hours a day. I paid a quick visit to Hans Franke's warehouse, I'm sure he has one of everything hiding there somewhere. I haven't seen a SC/MP evaluation board for, well, decades. Hans' presentation on storing vintage computer data as XML made me realise that the most important thing is to get everything preserved, and then work out what to do with it. I could store everything I've ever written on an 8-bit computer in a corner of my existing hard drive and not even notice it was there. I've got to dig out all those KCS cassettes, ASR33 printouts and even a few bits of paper tape and get them transferred. Finally, I visited the Deutsches-Museum in Munich for a final fix of computer stuff (www.deutsches-museum.de/e_index.htm). They have a very good display of calculating and computing machinery, from ancient instruments through Zuse Z3, Univac, IBM360 up to a Cray 1. I have a soft spot for the 360/20, even if it's not quite as good as a /30. Thanks to Hans for all his organisation, and to all the others that made it such a good weekend. I will be back next year, hopefully as an exhibitor. -- Lawrence Wilkinson ljw(a)formula1.demon.co.uk Ph +44(0)1869-811059 http://www.formula1.demon.co.uk

22 years, 12 months

id this HP 1000 CCA - HP 5061-3432

by aek＠spies.com

BTW is there a reason that the search feature of Acrobat doesn't work on the docs on your website? __ Search assumes the document has been OCRed

22 years, 12 months

id this HP 1000 CCA - HP 5061-3432

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found another HP 1000 today :-) It has three CCAs that I can't identify. They're all PN 5061-3432. Besides the usual TTL logic they have the following socketed ICs; 8 4116 memories, one EPROM and the following Zilog ICs; (2) Z8430A PS, (2) Z8410A PS, Z8400A PS, Z8442A PS. Anybody know what these are? Joe

22 years, 12 months

Leaving the Hobby

by jss＠subatomix.com

I am leaving the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing. I will not participate in any discussion of the reason. The decision has been made. What remains is to divest myself of my remaining collection. Part of that process is underway in private dealings with certain individuals. The rest of my collection will be offered in lots on eBay. If you don't like that, tough. I believe that eBay is the best way to get the word out about available items, the best way to deal fairly with prospective takers, and the best way to ensure that the items go to good homes. The first set of auctions will begin in the next few days. I will consider trades for other items; a list of things I am seeking will accompany each auction. I will continue my duties as list moderator for some time. Jay will see to the long-term continuation of list services. -- Jeffrey Sharp

22 years, 12 months

Jump to page:

2026

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

1997

test-drb