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by cb＠mythtech.net

>I just signed on with a mover yesterday and it's going to cost me a ton >to move my butt and my family to a new house, much of it because of the >thousands of pounds of computers and related items I've got stashed. > >Hell, the reason we're moving is that we're out of space! :) My wife just told me last night that "We are not taking that sh*t with us when we move". She was refering to the piles of computers I have in my barn. I'm still trying to figure out who the "We" was referring to. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

Removing duct tape residue.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 16, 3:55, vance(a)neurotica.com wrote: > I usually see isopropanol rather than methanol at the pharmacist. It may depend on the pharmacy, and methanol is more likely to be in the back room than the front shelf. IPA is sold as "rubbing alcohol" in the States, "methylated spirit" for a variety of purpose is commonly available in the UK and most of Europe -- it's a mixture of ethanol and methanol (plus dye). The point, however, is that methanol is a better solvent for felt-tip and ballpoint pen inks than isopropanol is, and that's what the original reference was about, IIRC. For glue residue (incl. duct tape), though, what we call "white spirit" or "turpentine substitute" (not to be confused with cellulose paint thinner) in the UK, is better than any of the common alcohols. None of the above will have any effect on most plastics, unlike toluene, MEK, acetone, ..., all of which are solvents for many plastics (in fact, for most non-waxy plastics, which leaves little but polythene and PTFE). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 11 months

Preserving ancient media

by Paul.HILLS＠landisgyr.com

I have quite a bit of software on cassette tapes for 1980s home computers. Does anyone know of a simple method (without having to design and build myself a dual-tone decoder circuit + write suitable PC software) of getting this information onto a PC? I guess the home computer emulator pages on the web must have done this. Maybe I could record it as a WAV file then write a program to decode the WAV? Or would MP3 encoding be capable of compressing and reliable expanding the audio data (MP3 is of course designed to compress music which these squeaks and whistles clearly are not, even if they lie within the audio spectrum!). paul

22 years, 11 months

Classics in BC

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Any sites for classic in Vancouver Lillooet Kamloops or Victoria or en route? I have a road trip coming up soon.

22 years, 11 months

Leaving the hobby

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

> >I just signed on with a mover yesterday and it's going to cost me a ton > >to move my butt and my family to a new house, much of it because of the > >thousands of pounds of computers and related items I've got stashed. > > > >Hell, the reason we're moving is that we're out of space! :) > > My wife just told me last night that "We are not taking that sh*t with us > when we move". She was refering to the piles of computers I have in my > barn. > > I'm still trying to figure out who the "We" was referring to. :-) Fortunately my wife is as big of a packrat as I am. She's got her "junk" and I've got mine. Hopefully you work out who that "we" is pretty quickly! Erik www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum

22 years, 11 months

Removing duct tape residue.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 16, 14:27, TeoZ wrote: > How many people keep something as nasty as MEK in their house? > Generally if your trying to disolve something then pick a solvent in the > same family as the ink is made out of. like disolves like is a general rule. MEK isn't particularly nasty. Less nasty than acetone, and you'll find that in many houses (in the guise of nail polish remover). Less nasty than some of the things found in various paint thinners. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 11 months

Removing duct tape residue.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 16, 15:28, Joe wrote: > MEK has all but been banned in the US and is just about impossible for an > individual to obtain. Besides it EATS plastic! I believe it's still commonly used for certain industrial processes. Yes, it does attack plastic -- that's it's principal use :-) Ditto for actone. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 11 months

Leaving the hobby

by acme＠ao.net

From: Thompson Family <mthomps5(a)columbus.rr.com> Date: 05/15/2003 6:37 PM > If you can't be unkind and unfair in speculating then why speculate at all? > Lighten up. You make a cryptic statement and naturally people are going to > react to it. Rushing to be mister sensitive is more annoying than cycinysm.. > and not nearly as entertaining. Jeffrey Sharp has made a tremendous contribution to this list, and therefore, to the cause of classic computing in general. There was nothing cryptic about his statement -- he simply stated what he is going to do. Additionally, people do not "naturally react" to another person's statement -- you chose to respond in the way that you did, and I certainly agree with Don's assesment of your choice. Glen 0/0 Don Maslin wrote: > > I think it is unfair and unkind to speculate like that. Just > > accept what he said and let it go at that. > > - don

22 years, 11 months

Leaving the hobby

by brian.roth＠fnfg.com

Brian Roth Network Administrator A+ N+ CNA CCNA Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com >>> rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com 05/16/03 03:30PM >>> Chris, I'm moving into a new house in three weeks. My wife keeps taking about the lawn and flowers. The basement is all mine. <grin> Where do you live? I'll come and help relieve you of your "burdon". :-) Joe ***************************************************************************** ********************* The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or make copies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** ***************************************************************************** ********************* BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:roth, brian TEL;WORK:2186 ORG:;Network Services TEL;PREF;FAX:716-625-0012 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:brian.roth@fnfg.com N:roth;brian X-GWUSERID:1372 END:VCARD

22 years, 11 months

LA36 in Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

If anyone is looking for a LA36 there is one at the surplus exchange at 1107 Hickory Kansas City Missouri. Not-for-profit office equipment/computer equipmnent recycling. mike

22 years, 11 months

Leaving the hobby

by brian.roth＠fnfg.com

Not with a dehumidifier and insulation. Also radiant heat helps. Brian Roth Network Administrator A+ N+ CNA CCNA Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com >>> teoz(a)neo.rr.com 05/16/03 04:25PM >>> >I keep alot of my collection in the basement also, any long term problems >with computer parts and slightly higher then average humidity? >----- Original Message ----- From: "brian roth" <brian.roth(a)fnfg.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Leaving the hobby ***************************************************************************** ********************* The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or make copies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** ***************************************************************************** ********************* BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:roth, brian TEL;WORK:2186 ORG:;Network Services TEL;PREF;FAX:716-625-0012 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:brian.roth@fnfg.com N:roth;brian X-GWUSERID:1372 END:VCARD

22 years, 11 months

Request for additional developers and testers (HPEMU)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Greetings folks! As many know, I have been working on an emulator (hpemu) for the HP 2100 type computer systems for some time. An incredible amount of progress has been made, however, I only have so much time I can dedicate to this project. More importantly, I've wanted to find other people to "join the team" and help work on it, but I needed to first get the API's and structure well defined, coded, and tested first. That is certainly now done. In addition, I finally decided the project will be released "open source". Actually, it will be "dual licensed", with individual use being free and under the GPL (just like the mysql license). Complete source code is available (as of the pending alpha release) and free. As a result, I wanted to query the folks here to see if anyone was interested in helping with the development. People wanting to help work on the code should have a working knowledge of programming in C on unix platforms. The emulator makes heavy use of SYSV style message queues, and BSD style pipes and sockets - so familiarity with these is pretty essential. All of the code is non-blocking, so familiarity with that type of programming environment is a big help. Of course, knowledge of the 2100 machine language would make things a lot easier for you. The cpu module is tested and running, as are several devices/interfaces. Most of the work needing to be done now involves adding functionality to the configuration options processing, optimizing existing code, error reporting and logging, and most of all coding additional devices that use the API to tie to the cpu. Of course, ideas/code for new/better features is welcome. Perhaps someone would like to take the 2100 module and enhance it to make a 21MX module? If anyone is interested, please contact me off-list. Regards, Jay West

22 years, 11 months

BBS (was: In search of . . .)

by acme＠ao.net

From: Thompson Family <mthomps5(a)columbus.rr.com> Date: 05/15/2003 6:32 PM > What is a BBS? ROFLMAO! You're serious, aren't you? May I ask how old you are? Glen 0/0

22 years, 11 months

Leaving the hobby

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

> Go out and buy all sorts of old computer crap. Fill every inch of your > living space with it. Go broke dragging the stuff around with you every > move and trying to find a place to put it. I just signed on with a mover yesterday and it's going to cost me a ton to move my butt and my family to a new house, much of it because of the thousands of pounds of computers and related items I've got stashed. Hell, the reason we're moving is that we're out of space! :) Erik

22 years, 11 months

Running PCs on 12v

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Another solution would be to buy a 12 to 120V converter and rewind the transformer to have the needed output voltages for the PC. I've rewound one to create voltages for my 20's battery powered radio. It isn't all that hard to do. This way you only have to one stage of conversion. The units for $200 are only that way because of the small demand. Combining a PC power supply with an inverter by rewinding the transformer is relatively simple. Dwight >From: "David Woyciesjes" <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net> > >"Cini, Richard" wrote: >> >> Hello, all: >> >> This is a bit OT (because of the PC being used) but I believe that >> the application of the solution is timeless :-) >> >> Anyway, I want to run a "book" PC on 12v while I'm outside using the >> telescope (the PC will run the CCD camera setup). I gave some thought to >> simply using an AC inverter, but converting 12v to 120v AC and then back to >> PC power supply voltages seemed horribly inefficient. >> >> The power supply is rated 12v/5.5a and 5v/1a. It's an NLX-type >> motherboard, so the 12v is converted to 5v for various peripherals at the >> point of need. The 5v from the power supply is to support system standby >> mode only. >> >> I went hunting for DC-input PC-form-factor supplies but they're >> upwards of $200. I thought about directly connecting the battery to the PC >> and using a small DC-DC converter for the 5v, but the battery voltage isn't >> really 12v (it's more like 13.8v) so a regulator would be necessary. >> >> Any thoughts as to a simple, low-cost yet efficient solution? >> >> Rich > > Have you looked around http://www.mp3car.com? A site for putting PCs in >your car, as a music source. Here's some DC-DC converters you could >buy... >http://www.mp3car.com/hardwarecats.asp?Type=H&Cat=P > I vaguely remember seeing somewhere on that site a couple different >plans for building your own supply... > >-- >--- Dave Woyciesjes >--- ICQ# 905818

22 years, 11 months

Running PCs on 12v

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: This is a bit OT (because of the PC being used) but I believe that the application of the solution is timeless :-) Anyway, I want to run a "book" PC on 12v while I'm outside using the telescope (the PC will run the CCD camera setup). I gave some thought to simply using an AC inverter, but converting 12v to 120v AC and then back to PC power supply voltages seemed horribly inefficient. The power supply is rated 12v/5.5a and 5v/1a. It's an NLX-type motherboard, so the 12v is converted to 5v for various peripherals at the point of need. The 5v from the power supply is to support system standby mode only. I went hunting for DC-input PC-form-factor supplies but they're upwards of $200. I thought about directly connecting the battery to the PC and using a small DC-DC converter for the 5v, but the battery voltage isn't really 12v (it's more like 13.8v) so a regulator would be necessary. Any thoughts as to a simple, low-cost yet efficient solution? Rich

22 years, 11 months

Leaving the hobby

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Aww - what fun is that? How about this: > >Bill's Top 10 Reasons to Leave the Classic Computer Hobby OMFG!!! That is the funniest s* I have read in a while. You should think about sticking it on a shirt and selling them at the next VCF! Humm... mind if I make myself a shirt? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

An Invitation

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

Hello fellow vintage computer fans, A few weeks ago I announced the creation of the Vintage Computer Forum (http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum) and since then the response has been excellent! In just a few weeks we?ve had thousands of visits and hundreds of messages posted by dozens of new members with many more people coming by to have a look around. I promise that I won?t be posting my invitation repeatedly (I don?t want to spam the list), but I would once again like to encourage anyone interested in vintage computing topics to swing by the VC Forum to see what it?s all about and, hopefully, to sign up and participate in our discussions. Topical areas have been created for a wide variety of interests including Apple, Atari, Commodore, DEC, CP/M, S-100, Vintage Programming and many more; including some off-topic areas for those so inclined. Additional topics will be added as they are requested by the VC Forum community. Best regards, Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum

22 years, 11 months

5362 computer and similar

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Subject: 5362 computer Subject: IBM 5362 Subject: Re: Intellec 8 Etc. Hi These really look like address miner queries. I wonder if the people sending these queries even know what they are asking about? I don't recall cctalk(a)classiccmp.org as posting adds. Dwight

22 years, 11 months

Need HP9830A Calculator service manual

by vcf＠siconic.com

Has anyone got an HP 9830A Calculator service manual? I'm trying to help someone out. A photocopy or scan would be adequate. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

22 years, 11 months

In search of Christopher Willis

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

> A BBS is typically a single user. I'd seen many a serious, multi line, multi user BBS system in days gone by. At 08:15 PM 5/15/03 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, 15 May 2003, Thompson Family wrote: > > > No I am not kidding.. > > > >BBS is an acronym for Bulletin Board System. A BBS is typically a single >user message base/file download system that is accessed by modem. > >Check out http://www.bbsdocumentary.com > >g.

22 years, 11 months

Intellec 8 Etc.

by JEFFPEREZ＠LIBERTYPR.NET

do you still have the Royton Sweda Punch station?

22 years, 11 months

Univac 9200 in Minneapolis

by yakowenk＠yahoo.com

(Apologies if this comes through twice; I've been having e-mail troubles for several days, and re-trying...) I've just got word of a Univac 9200 available in Minneapolis. It is in a building that is due to be torn down in about a week, so if you are in a position to do anything about it, do it soon! If its owner doesn't get any offers, it may well go to e-bay. At the present, he seems willing to just give it to anyone who wants to keep the whole thing and can cart it away! If nobody can arrange a rescue of the whole machine, then I've got dibs on parts, because I've got a mostly-complete 9200 that could use them. Still, if you have an actual need for any particular part, let me know, and if it is something that my machine doesn't need I would be willing to share. Note that, like my machine, his is also missing the power-supply-and-memory cabinet. For those who don't already know, the Univac 9200 was a late-60's minicomputer based on small-scale pre-TTL (maybe SUHL?) technology. It came with 8K of thin-film RAM (some variation of magnetic core memory), and a built-in line-printer. Physically, it was about the size of an office desk, but maybe twice as tall. I've got a web page with a little info about mine, here: http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp/univac/ If interested, contact me (now or sooner!). It'll most likely be first-come, first-served. Cheers, Bill. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

22 years, 11 months

Teletype 33-TU in Kansas City at surplus exchange

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

There is a Teletype unit model 33 TU with a roll of paper in the unit at the surplus exchange at 1107 Hickory. If anybody is interested I can ask about the price. Mike m m c f a d d e n @ c m h . e d u

22 years, 11 months

IBM 5362

by robbiej600＠hotmail.com

Hello, I just got an old IBM 5362 computer and I was searching the internet for information about it and came across a add you had posted a while back,I was was wondering if you know of any good sites were there is information about it.I was wondering how to hook the 5362 to my ibm 3270 workstation,please e-mail me back if you can help.Thanks-Robbie _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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