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by pt＠new.rr.com

I have inherited a HP3000 918LX. Surpisingly enough it is OT being from 1999 or thereabouts; hopefully MPE/IX is venerable enough to fit in here. I didn't like the machine much when it was in production use as a billing system, but now that its mine I appreciate it a bit more. However, the thing came out of the box in 1999 with MPE 5.5 with 64MB of RAM and was intolerably slow. It was since been migrated (by HP consulting thank goodness) to 7.00 which did not speed it up any. Running a few simple commands and GLANCE begins to gripe about memory and CPU usage. I once exported an ASCII file from LOGTOOL and tried to 'grep' the resulting file in MPE POSIX mode and it took over 2 hours to complete. FTPing to a 90mhz (!) linux box and the grepping took three minutes. This was one of the machine were HP inserted NOP's in the firmware so you didn't get more speed than you paid for, but I would not mind adding some RAM. I have some A2580-60001 60ns RAM from a HP9000 D200 which looks to be compatible with a 918LX. I found other RAM part numbers which claimed to work with both D200's and 918LX's had trouble finding info on this one specifically. Anyone know for sure? I'd rather not release magic smoke. Paul

19 years, 8 months

What the hell -- CRAZY prices

by marvin＠rain.org

> From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan at snarc.net> > > I found some interesting things to buy, but then saw the prices... not only > are they ASTRONOMICAL but the seller lists almost every item, even ordinary > keyboards, as "Very Rare"... I wanted a Canon X-07 and a Toshiba T100 but he > posted them at $299 and $399 respectively. What the hell!?!?!? I ran into those items yesterday while checking out pricing for classic computer stuff. My first comment is ... I'M RICH :). Second (and more seriously), I read a while ago that the average selling time for older books is five years. My guess in both cases is that they are priced for someone that *needs* them. I found another closed auction today for a BUNCH (approx. 25) of Northstar Advantage computers/boards/etc. with a starting bid of $500.00 with no reserve. Good thing I didn't see that when the auction was open :)!!!

19 years, 8 months

Timeline of Silent 700 models?

by evan＠snarc.net

Per the subject line .... does anyone know of a thorough list of all TI Silent 700 terminals and the years of introduction?

19 years, 8 months

Mystery CPU board - 1981 - SAB-8086

by tosteve＠gmail.com

Folks, I have a mystery CPU card from 1981. NSC DLC 86/05 CPU 1981 Functional status unknown. See photos below. You can have it if you need/want it (unless it's valuable...) 100Kb - http://members.cox.net/oldcomputerads/pics/card-small.jpg 400Kb - http://members.cox.net/oldcomputerads/pics/card-big.jpg Steve.

19 years, 8 months

Needed: Tandy 2000 manuals

by rcini＠optonline.net

All: I'm doing research for another potential emulation project. Does anyone have a pointer to an electronic copy of the Tandy Model 2000 Programmer's Reference Manual (260-5403) and the Hardware Reference Manual (260-5404)? Alternatively, if someone has hard copies that I can make a copy of, that'd work. Thanks a lot. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator Web site: <http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/> http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ Web site: http://www.altair32.com/ /***************************************************/

19 years, 8 months

Apollo Domain series 3000 in NY

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Received a post from a fellow in New York with a machine to give away. > I have access to an Apollo Domain series 3000 machine, actually was > told to throw it out, and googled the make and model, just for fun. If you are interested email me and I'll forward the replies.

19 years, 8 months

FA: Amdahl Omniflex 1015 Millennium Omni Model 1015 Server Mainframe

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

See item http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=tbd269094 A bunch of SGIs for $25 : http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=tbd272280 -- Stephane Paris, France.

19 years, 8 months

Ebay bunch of 4/2xx stuff in Philadelphia on eBay

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110042636347 Posting this since the listing title " Vintage Computer Items MUST SEE! Many Items, one go "is pretty useless.

19 years, 8 months

RX02 Problem solved...

by gkaufman＠the-planet.org

Tony and others - The head load pad looks visually fine. The head load spring tension appears pretty normal , and the solenoid pulls in nicely. The drive consistently reads the first 10 or so tracks, then tosses various number of errors as it goes further out. I've cleaned the head, and cleaned/lubed the spindle. The track 0 sensor appears fine. It is indeed possible that the alignment is off - that would probably explain the poor performance as it steps out. I guess a worn out head would have the same symptoms. I the 70's I had a neat Dysan digital alignment disk that I used to realign a few SA901 and SA801 drives. Unfortunately I no longer have it. I suppose I could mark the position of the stepper and slightly rotate it in each direction to see if it improves things. If someone can point me to an actual alignment procedure I'm game - I have reasonable scopes etc here. I'm not anxious to replace the entire drive, but I would love to get this up and running! Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated. - Gary Other faults that I've had were a mis-aligned track 0 sensor (causing it to step out beyond the outermost formatted track on the disk), and a low-tension head load pad spring. In the latter case, taking the thing a aper and bending the torsion spring by hand got it going again. The only problem was reassembling it, I found it necessary to make a dummy pin to hold the spring inside the load arm that was then pushed out when the real pin was inserted through the head mouting. In any case, before replacing something as large as a drive unit, I'd want to know which of the various parts was the problem. Do you know, for example, that the head load solenoid works and pulls in correctly? That you can get a signal from the track 0 sensor? That the spindle is turning? and so on... -tony

19 years, 8 months

Anyone here from Oregon USA to help with collection pickup?

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Hi - I have an opportunity to pick up a large collection of vintage computers located in Oregon. I have been told that one would need a truck to get it all in one shot. If there is anyone who lives in or near the "541" area code and is interested in helping, contact me directly and I can give you the details. Thanks. Bill Degnan

19 years, 8 months

RD53s and RD54s

by toby＠russellsharpe.com

Hi, I've decided after many years of accumulating PDP-11s that the time has come to restore a few of them to operational condition. I've decided to start with some QBUS machines as they give me the best chance of a warm fuzzy feeling of success. The first thing I've decided to do was to retrieve all of my RD series harddisks and establish which ones are still operational. I've initially started with 4 RD53s and 4 RD54s which I've connected upto an 11/73 and used XXDP to format. All RD54s have formatted perfectly, confirming their reputation for reliability. However none of the RD53s would format, which I guess also backs up their reputation. I had hoped at least a few of the RD53s would have still been usable (I have about 6 more I've not tested yet). Does anyone have a RD53 still in working condition? Is there any point in keeping the duff drives or should I consign them to the skip? Toby -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

19 years, 8 months

group buy for homebrew CPUs?

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I was wondering if there's anyone else out there interested in someday building a Magic-1 and/or D16 homebrewed CPU computers. If so, I'd like to organize a group buy for some of the harder to source parts. Specifically, the 74F382 and probably 74F381. My favorite chip broker has a $50 minimum order. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

19 years, 8 months

S-100 system available in Oregon

by dave06a＠dunfield.com

I received this request recently by email: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have and I'm tired of storing an old S-100 box, probably home-made in a formed and machined aluminum enclosure. The whole thing is a tank of impressive proportions and weight. I saved it from the trash years ago, as S-100 systems were common when I first started using computers (Osborne 1 era). Originally, it had 2 8" floppy drives. One of the drives is missing, although I have the door for it. Inside, there's a CPU/IO card, a 64 K DRAM card, an analog data acquisition card, and I don't remember what else. One of the cards says MicroByte. The front panel had a key switch, which is still there, but pulled back from the panel. I have no idea if this works, but at least the major parts appear to be on hand. Are you interested in this beast? Do you want pictures? I don't want any money other than the cost of getting it into better hands. I'm in Eugene, Oregon, by the way. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Too far/heavy/big for me to get it shipped here, however if there is someone on the list who would like to give it a home, please contact me and I'll connect the two of you. Regards. Dave -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html

19 years, 8 months

need docs for intel 80c186/80c188 evaluation board

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

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19 years, 8 months

how do I copy an RD54 completely?

by henk.gooijen＠oce.com

I have an RD54 with a working RSTS system (V10.?) on it. The RD54 was installed in the microPDP-11/93 that I had. I have a microPDP-11/53 with RQDX3 and got a few days ago an Emulex UC07 QBUS SCSI interface with a 1 Gb SCSI disk. Before I mess up the RSTS (because I don't know anything about RSTS yet), I would like to make a copy (dump?) of the complete RD54 to the SCSI disk, so I can restore the whole RD54 to an other RD54 if this one dies ... or is messed up completely by me :-) I think the following steps are a starter (?): 1) install the UC07 and connect the SCSI disk 2) connect the RD54 to the RQDX3 3) start the system till the RSTS "Option" prompt Then what? First, I need to know the device names. Is there some command like RT-11 ".SH DEV" available in RSTS? Then I probably need to initialise the SCSI disk? Then I need some sort of command to get *everything* >from the RD54 to the SCSI disk ... Any help is appreciated! TIA, - Henk, PA8PDP This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.

19 years, 8 months

Sun-3/60 available in Calgary

by psand＠mac.com

I'm posting this for my friend Shane who isn't subscribed to this list. He'd like to find a good home for his Sun-3/60. The machine is available for pick-up (unless you pay shipping) in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. As far as I know, this 3/60 has 12MB RAM and a CG4 color framebuffer. It includes a color monitor, keyboard, optical mouse and the metal mousepad as well as an external 1GB SCSI disk (not the shoebox) loaded with SunOS 4.1. All cables included. In short, a very complete 3/60! The owner can be contacted directly at <navalpiranha at yahoo.com>. Per

19 years, 8 months

NEC Multisync II manual

by kelly＠catcorner.org

Does anyone have a scan of one available? Thanks, Kelly

19 years, 8 months

WTD: AT&T 6300 Personal Computer mother bd dip switch map

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Hi - I am attempting to install a CGA card onto a AT&T 6300 Personal Computer. It currently has only a 25-pin CRT port for a terminal dumb terminal (w/o keyboard). I need the dip switch map so I can set for the CGA monitor. The 6300 has a 8086 processor, and it's an OEM system from Olivetti. I assume that the user's guide for the Olivetti 8086 PC would due equally as well. Thanks. Bill D

19 years, 8 months

Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention 2006 pics

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi folks, Some cool pics of C64 equipment can be found here: http://lyonlabs.org/commodore/eccc-2006/eccc-2006.ht ml Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

19 years, 8 months

AT&T PC 6300 monitors - got one now

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

> >Chris M wrote: > > I don't see any reason why that 25 pin connection > > couldn't be adapted to work with say an early > > Multisync. > >...except that, in my experience, finding old Multisyncs are just as >difficult as finding the original AT&T PC 6300 monitors that go with the >machine. Both have similar frequency on ebay, anyway :) Fortunately there was PC 6300 monitor for sale at our club (marchclub.org) swap meet (with three 6300's) this weekend...Problem solved!...it pays to advertise.

19 years, 8 months

UREP

by drb＠msu.edu

Anyone know if the old UREP (Unix RSCS Emulation Package) is available anywhere any more? De

19 years, 8 months

information about the PDP-11/68 (also for PDP-11 FAQ: The Never 11's)

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 9 Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:00:13 -0400 "Bill Pechter" <pechter at gmail.com> wrote: > I believe the 11/68 was known as the Bluefin and was cancelled fairly > early on before it was out of prototype. I think Ontario Hydro was the > place that got the 11/74's. I never heard of AT&T having them. My wife > was in AT&T, Bell Labs and Bellcore and she never heard of one of them > there. This is urban myth appearantly. No 11/74 systems were left at customers at the end of the field tests. The most common myth is that Ontario Hydro whould have kept one, but sources there have denied it. Another myth about Ontario that I've read were about when DEC tried to convince them to change their 11/70 systems (or if it was disks) because the money they would save from lower power consuption of another system, which were replied to with a "maybe you didn't hear where I come from...". I think that actually may have been a DECUS Q&A session... And that one might be true. I don't know... Anyhow, back to the 11/74 systems... No, I remember (and probably still have the mail somewhere) that persons within Ontario denied that they kept any 11/74 systems. Also, people within DEC have firmly stated that all 11/74 systems *were* returned. > The last of the 11/74 KB11-CM cpus were used internal at DEC when they > had to ship a ton of refurb 11/70's to AT&T. (they were out of > production and wouldn't meet the FCC regs... so DEC called in a bunch > of their 11/70 systems from Software Development and Field Service and > shipped the newer cpu's from the 11/74 project to them as a > replacement. Well, it is true that DEC shipped KB11-CM cards to customers to use in 11/70 systems, but that wasn't the last of it. DEC still had/have working 11/74 systems in house, and in the early 90s they did a corporate wide search for 11/74 components, I believe, to keep their systems running. (Memory a bit hazy now...) When DEC disbanded the PDP-11 OS groups, the RSX team's 11/74 (CASTOR::) were moved to Colorado Springs. The DECnet group's 11/74 (just 2 cpus, POLLUX::) were also there, and FS took over the system. Well, actually Mentec took over the system, and kept it running for another number of years. As far as I know, the system they have still exist, but last I heard they had some hardware problem with the machine, so it wasn't functional. This was maybe four years ago. Also, RSX development have finally moved off the 11/74 onto something faster. But until recent emulators on really fast hardware, the 11/74 was still the best workhorse for the development system. Which is why RSX have a very nice and functional MP implementation. :) However, appearantly the physical machine stayed inside DEC, then Compaq, and I would expect currently HP. And it sounds like there is little chance of the machine ever leaving the premises. If it is disbanded, it's destined for the scrap heap. Or atleast that's what I've been told. If someone ever manage to get it out of there, I would love to help it back to running order. > We got one at DEC Princeton around 83 or so... Just different enough > to require separate not-too-available spares. They were used for a > short time with RSTS/E until the internal stuff moved to VAX/VMS. I would think that most components would be the same as the 11/70. Looking at the module list, only a few modules differ. Analysing it, the changes would be in the memory bus interface (that means both cache modules and memory box bus interface). Second, the MMU and ASRB microcode is changed. But I believe that's it. > There also was a system called Unicorn (which I think was another > extended 11 prototype which was the development of the VAX SBI bus and > MA780 memory -- later used in the VAX but built before that. That would be interesting to learn anything more about. Of course I assume you know that the PDP-11/70 and VAX-11/750 use the same memory bus, and same memory cards (with a few restrictions). Johnny

19 years, 8 months

Other LX woes

by mouse＠Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA

> In the past, I've run my LX [...] Speaking of LXen.... I've got two LXen. The LX has a cgsix on the motherboard, and if you "cd" to it and do "words" you'll see - or at least I do for each of mine - that it has resolution-changing words supporting, among others, 1280x1024. But when I setenv output-device to /sbus/cgsix at 3,0:r1280x1024x67 (or whatever it is), the console appears to start fine but wedges as soon as it tries to scroll. However, my two machines wedge in different ways. (One just hangs, still displaying the pre-scroll display; on the other, the video glitches as if it were changing scan frequencies and hangs displaying either black screen or no video, I'm not sure which.) Given this, I rather wonder if I just have two differently busted framebuffers or if this is just how LXes work (or more accurately, fail). So, if anyone has an LX, a monitor capable of 1280x1024, and some way to recover (unplug the keyboard and use serial console, or an OS if you have it set to auto-boot, to change output-device back), I wonder if you could try it and see if yours weird out when they try to scroll at 1280x1024? /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

19 years, 8 months

Wanted: GRiD Compass 1101 info

by tosteve＠gmail.com

Hi, I have a GRiD Compass 1101, but haven't been able to determine how fast the system actually runs. Many sites say 16MHz, but I don't think the Intel 8086 ran that fast in 1982 - overclocked? The Motherboard only has an 8MHz crystal, so... If anyone has a manual, it may say. Thanks- Steve.

19 years, 8 months

Anyone interested in this job lot (West Yorkshire, UK)?

by listmailgoeshere＠gmail.com

Due to an urgent need for more space, I'd like to know if anyone would be interested in taking ALL of the following off my hands. Doesn't have to be one person - feel free to club together with whoever you feel like if you can arrange it fairly quickly. I just don't want to ship individual bits of this or that to the four corners of the globe - I don't have time :( Here goes: HP 85 - 5 machines (one or two may be missing a few keys). I posted about these (and the 86Bs) on this list a while ago. HP 86B - 3 machines. All work, for varying degrees of "work". One seems totally OK, one seems to work but various characters of the screen are stuck as "M" right from switch on, so I'm guessing video RAM trouble. One has an unresponsive keyboard - a couple of the keys work but that's it. This one also has keys missing, so is probably best used as spares for the other two. There are RAM cartridges and ROM drawers on offer with these as well, also 5 off 9121 dual single-sided 3.5" HPIB drive and 1 off 9122 dual double-sided 3.5" HPIB drive, also 3 brand new rolls of paper and 6 tape cartridges Sun Ultra 2 300(ish)MHz - 384(ish)MB RAM Sun Ultra 1 140MHz, not sure how much memory is in it Sun SPARCstation 4, 110MHz, 96MB RAM, 1GB (I think) disk Sun SPARCstation 5, 90MHz, there's some memory in it but not sure how much Sun SPARCstation 2, 2 off, there's memory and disks in both Sun SPARCstation IPX, 2 off, both have memory and disks I think Sun SPARCclassic, faulty Sun SPARCstation SLC, has memory Sun SPARCstation ELC, has memory Sun SPARCstation ELC (faulty) - not sure if this one has memory Box of the system board and socket board combos from died-of-video-problems SPARCstation ELCs. There are about 8 or so of these, all have memory IIRC. Sun EXP-2 disk pack (the 386i style one) - 4 (one is for spares only). All have disks and/or tape drives in Sun type 411 disk enclosure, DAT tape drive fitted Sun type 411 disk enclosure, 4.3GB IBM harddisk fitted Sun type 611 UniPack disk enclosure, 7 off, all closed-face type. Most, if not all, have various low-ish size harddisks fitted Sun type 711 MultiPack disk enclosure, takes 12 SCA harddisks in SPUD brackets, complete with keys Sun "SBUS Expansion" with card and cable Sun GDM-17E10 17" monitor. Last known working, can't guarantee it still is Sun CPD-1790 17" monitor, works Sun GDM-20D10 20" monitor, 2 off. Both have different faults. One works fine once it's warmed up, but while it does the size of the screen "bounces" alarmingly all over the place. One has (as is written on the casing in biro) "LINE JITTER PROBLEM". These are stunning looking monitors - one even has its IR remote control. Make one good one out of the pair SGI 14" monitor. Yes, I didn't realise that any 13w3 monitors were ever made this small, but here it is. Don't know the model number offhand, sorry Huge box full of SBUS and UPA cards. Along with loads of CG3 and 501-2015s and stuff, there are some rarities in here (Vigra VGA cards, 4 off; others as well) Box full of Sun accessories - audio output breakouts, serial adaptors, drive mounting sleds, all kinds of stuff Huge box* full of SCSI cables of all varieties, from Sun DD50 right up to VHDCI Huge box* full of serial cables and RS232/MMJ-related adaptors Huge box* full of IEC 320 power leads Boxes of mice (Sun SDB, PS2 and serial) About 10 PC keyboards About 10 Sun Type 4 keyboards One or two Sun Type 5 keyboards One Sun Type 6 USB keyboard DEC MicroVAX 3100-30 - not sure if these have memory, they don't have disks DEC LA38 teletype DEC VT510 dumb terminal - 2 off DEC BA356 disk array - full of 4.3GB and 9.1GB drives. Has a personality module fitted, but I couldn't tell you what kind it is Other dumb terminals - there are about 20 of various kinds, including a Lear-Siegler ADM-11 which is retro-tastic Box of old SCSI and IDE harddisks 19" rack mount 10baseT network hub - 24 ports I think Drawer full of motherboards, 486 to Pentium era Various old media (including some hard-sectored 8" floppes which I think belong to something Tektronix) 3.5" floppy disk boxes - 3 of the "square" style (2 disks wide) and one of the "narrow" style (1 disk wide) Mac Plus 1Mb. Also an Apple 20SC harddisk to go with this - don't have the cable, though. Few miscellaneous external SCSI disk enclosures of various sizes Some x86 machines - few 486s, couple of Pentia (~120MHz) and two more interesting machines: - One DEC which has the CPU on a removable daughterboard (I have 3 of said boards - two are a single 486 and one is two Socket 5 Pentia. I can even give you the matched pair of P133 CPUs I bought to put in this). This machine has onboard Adaptec Wide SCSI. One Full Tower AT - will take (IIRC) 5 3.5" drives in a nifty swing-out cage, and 5 half-height drives (CDROMs etc). Currently fitted with a P200 with 64MB RAM and an Adaptec 2940W SCSI card. APC UPS system (don't know the model number offhand, but a smallish one) - batteries are duff, but I bought a slightly bigger battery (which has to go outside the case) and all the necessary big wires and connectors to be able to wire it in for use Entire shelf full of CDROM drives, including 4 Nakamichi 5-disc changers (two SCSI and two IDE) 7 off 3.5" HD floppy drives Several large bags full of various cables and x86 accessories (floppy, IDE, ...) Few boxes of various ISA/VLB/PCI cards - mainly graphics and network Probably a bit more stuff that I haven't listed, as well The catch: you must take it ALL. Currently, it's filling a room (and overspilling a bit from that) and I want it gone. I'd say this is going to fill at least 2 estate cars, so you'd probably want a van. I can help you pack and carry it out. How much? Make me an offer. The offer can be from "free but I can have it gone REAL SOON" upwards. I really wouldn't say no to some cash ;) This stuff is teetering ever closer to getting landfilled; I'd hate to see it be lost to the community but I honestly can't keep it any longer. I hope someone/some group out there can give it a good home(s). Ed. * where these are concerned, you can take the *contents* of the box but not the boxes themselves - they were quite expensive. I have many flat-pack cardboard boxes and can make some up for you to take stuff away in.

19 years, 8 months

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