Seth J. Morabito wrote:
> Does anyone have any guidelines about making archival images of
> CD-ROM media? For years, I've been using dd on Solaris or Linux
> to dump the raw bytes of CD-ROMs, and cdrecord if I want to make
> a copy from the raw image, but I don't know if this is considered
> "good enough" to preserve all the associated filesystem and partition
> structures of the disc. It has been for me, so far, but I'd like to
> hear other opinions on the matter. How do you archive CD-ROM images?
As long as there's only one track on the CD, dd on Linux will grab
everything. On Solaris you might have to be careful to pick the right
device node so you grab the whole thing. On MacOS X you definitely have
to pick the right device node -- the one time I tried it, I picked
wrong and only got one partition.
Multi-partition discs usually have just one track containing all
partitions. If you want to be sure you can "cdrecord -toc", if there's
just one data track, you're good.
Some discs actually do have more than one track. The SunCD demo disc
is an example. It has a data track (probably with multiple partitions,
I don't remember) and a few audio tracks. Some combination of dd
(or readcd -- see below) and cdparanoia should be able to copy discs
like this.
I usually use dd, or even cat, on the first try reading a disc, just
out of laziness. But there's a program 'readcd' (part of the cdrtools
suite, IIRC) which is a little more sophisticated. In particular, if
a disc has a marginal sector or two, dd will give up, but readcd will
retry until it gets a good read.
Another note, if you are reading CD-Rs which were written in TAO mode,
you will get some empty sectors appended to the end, then an I/O error
as your drive tries to read past the leadout. But you're not actually
losing any data.
-- Adam
At 08:22 PM 10/26/2006 Ethan Dicks wrote:
>I used to use EBCDIC on a regular basis when I made HASP/3780/SNA
>gear... now, I think I can only remember 'space' and the numbers.*
Yes but do you remember good old BCD
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> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:41 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: TRS-80 Model 16
>
>
> I've got a TRS-80 Model 16 that I'm going to put on ePay, but I'd
> like to clean some of the grunge out of the half-height Tandon 8"
> diskette drives.
>
> In a nutshell, can someone tell me the easy way to remove these
> drives from the case?
>
Model 16 or 16B? The procedure is different.
If it is a 16b:
Remove slot access cover in back.
Turn the computer over (feet up)
Remove the 10 or so screws from around the case
Turn back over, being carefull to keep it together.
From the front of the unit, lift top shell and rotate left
the CRT stays attached to that piece of the case you lift up
You should now see the floppy cage on the right
Remove all the screws from around the cage and the two drives
should come out as a unit.
If it is the original 16:
Remove the two back screws from the case cover.
Remove this.
Remove all the screws from around the front (CRT)
bezel. It should drop off, with the CRT attached.
You should now be able to get to all of the screws
If this is an original 16, please let me know when you list it.
If you're interested in private sale, let me know. I'll send an offer
that you can either accept or ignore. I wouldn't even ask you to
clean the drives.
If you need it, I can scan in an exploded diagram from the two service manuals.
Kelly
I've got a TRS-80 Model 16 that I'm going to put on ePay, but I'd
like to clean some of the grunge out of the half-height Tandon 8"
diskette drives.
In a nutshell, can someone tell me the easy way to remove these
drives from the case?
Thanks!
Chuck
As long as we're talking about it; here are a few more ideas to
consider.
1. The Catweasel uses a selectable clock rate to obtain a clock
count that will fit in 7 bits. My gripe with this is that I have to
read a track or two (if different densities on the same disk) to
determine the correct clock rate. There's little worse than finding
out that you've guessed wrongly and your image is worthless.
If we're going to employ a dedicated MPU/MCU to handle this stuff,
why not go with a 10- or 11-bit clock rate and get rid of the rate
selection? One of the spare bits could be used for index detection
on hard-sectored disks.
2. Some drive diagnostics should be incorporated. Particularly with
5.25" drives, old sticky floppies can really drag the rotational
speed down. I'd really like to know that it's happening.
3. I can envision this device as a small box, powered by a wall wart
with an RJ-45 ethernet connector and on or two DC-37 female
connectors for drives. Given that this thing's going to be used for
all manner of drives, there's no compelling reason to provide drive
power as part of it.
4. DHCP is a nice feature, but not all vintage networks support it.
The option of a fixed IP address (192.168.x.x) would be a plus.
5. Should the box also supply the drive for older 8" drive 3-phase
steppers? How about the head-load signal?
That's it for now--I'm sure I'll think of something else!
Cheers,
Chuck
Looking for a WANG 2200 MVT system or
anything that will read Wang 5 meg removable platters;
8 inch floppy drive also needed; have many of the
Wang terminals but a spare mpu might be nice.
Thanks
John
WB6BLV at inreach.com
For collectors of arcana out there, I've listed an Intel bubble
memory development kit on ePay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320042426869&ssPage
Name=ADME:L:LCA:US:31
I never got around to using it--after I discovered the power
requirements of the thing, I moved on to battery-backed SRAM instead.
:)
Cheers,
Chuck
Warren wrote:
==================
Oh, yeah, the GPIB reference reminds me... I've got an HP CP/M
machine, too, that looks like their old brown monitors, with a
standalone dual diskette drive that connects via HPIB. I forget the
model number... Cripes, I've got old computers stashed all over the
place.
==================
Must be an HP 125; if it's a 3.5" disk drive, chances are it's
an HP 9121D.
Hey folks,
Does anyone have any guidelines about making archival images of
CD-ROM media? For years, I've been using dd on Solaris or Linux
to dump the raw bytes of CD-ROMs, and cdrecord if I want to make
a copy from the raw image, but I don't know if this is considered
"good enough" to preserve all the associated filesystem and partition
structures of the disc. It has been for me, so far, but I'd like to
hear other opinions on the matter. How do you archive CD-ROM images?
Does anyone use any special software or have any tips?
-Seth
I was going over some old 8" Intel diskettes and discovered some that
have the legend "MDS is a registered trademark of Mohawk Data Science
Corporation"
Does anyone remember when Intel started adding the asterisked text to
"MDS"?
Cheers,
Chuck
Saw your note re self winding clocks on the net and that your dad had one.
I am also in possession of one and trying to find the value of it. Have you or
your dad ever come across a book(s) or web site that provides some type of
value to these clocks.
I have tried using the web search engines without any success. Matter of
fact that is how I found your request.
Any assistance or help you could provide would be appreciated.
Jerry Edwards
I am a former Western Union employee and while there I got my hands on one of
the self winding advertising clocks WU offered with its time service. Saw your articles
on the web and wondering if you could point me in the direction of a web site or book(s)
that I might be able to find the value of this clock.
As information, I have already tried using most of the web search engines such as
Google, MSN, Yahoo etc., without much success. Matter of fact that is how I found
your articles.
Any help or assistance you could provide would be very much apprecated.
Jerry Edwards
I have an Altos 886 that apparently has corrupted boot blocks... and
need to locate
a copy of Xenix and probably of the SDX ? diagnostics in order to get it
back up
and running again.
As I understand it, this system ran Xenix 3.2f, and it had to be the
Xenix specifically
for the Altos 886 (i.e. not 'generic' SCO Xenix).
So, anyone out there have installation media that they care to part with
or make
copies of ? (copying may be difficult as these are Quad density 5.25"
media as
I understand it... 720K I believe (80 tracks double sided double density)).
Thanks,
-- Curt
--- Ray Arachelian <ray at arachelian.com> wrote:
> aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > err... what's a Faraday cage?
> >
> When in doubt, google it. :-) Here's a good answer
:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
>
Ahh, thanks. I had forgotten about Google
(not surprising since I have been working
8.5 hour days for the past week and only
getting 6 hours sleep each night).
I don't like to rely too heavily on Wikipedia
as (like alot of information online) you can't
be sure what's right or wrong, unless someone
knowledgeable in the subject can confirm it.
So if I understand correctly, the outer casing
of a harddrive acts as a Faraday cage? My
(4GB) Toshiba ones I use in my Amiga 600
have circuitry on the underside, but I suspect
that may stop it being a Faraday cage, unless
it's stuck onto the outside of the unit.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
We had one monitor Phillips C1435-AS that goes with a DEC Vax
1000, but the monitor is dead now and it has DB9 female
connector. Does any one know the specification of this so that I
can find a match or does anyone know of video card on vax 1000
computer?
I was told it is typically EGA signal out of vax1000 and I was
told by some people it is actually analog signal with DB9
connector with special pin match.
Any help would be appreciated.
Henry
Does anyone have some experience with the best way to "lubricate?" the cable
in the top cover of an RL02 drive? I can't tell for sure if the cable is
wire or plastic or plasticoated wire or fiber.....
The issue is probably typical... when you release the hand operated slide
the clasp on the top cover at the front doesn't slide back all the way to
latch the top closed. I am sure that it is not the spring in the front
latch. Moving that by hand, there is plenty of spring tension left. The
problem is definitely that the cable between the front latch and the hand
operated slide isn't "sliding" in the channel.
What good way have people found to address this. If it's fiber I was
thinking of sliding the cable through wax once or twice. Is there a better
way? Graphite would seem a bad idea....
Jay
I was able to obtain copies of most of the 96xx series manuals last Friday,
so they are now on line on bitsavers.org/pdf/kennedy including the docs for
the SCSI interfaces.
They were a challenge to find..
Still looking for the schematics for the HP 88780
On 10/25/06, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
> I am green with envy, Ethan. Yes I'd freeze my butt off (hey I'm a
> Florida boy) but man it'd be worth it to see that place.
Our low is typically around -100F to -110F (the record is somewhere
around -117F, IIRC)
This time of year, -60F to -75F is common.
> What cool (non-work-related) hardware do you have down there?
I brought plenty of cool non-work-related hardware... my SBC-6120
w/FP-6120 and IOB-6120, a Spare Time GIzmos Embedded Elf w/disk
interface, an Elf-2000 w/STG1861, a STG mp3 player, an RB5X robot
(INS8073-based), an MC-1N microcontroller (also INS8073-based),
several LCD and VFD displays for LCDproc (http://www.lcdproc.org), a
"Real Console" 6809 board, a MicroElf, a couple of binary clocks, some
Atmel microcontrollers, and a modernish (2002) 6502 SBC. I think
that's most of the toys I brought to get through the night. I also
have Amiga Forever, simh and klh10 for emulation of various boxes (I
used to bring an Amiga down, but now it's just too large to justify).
Plenty of toys here. Now I just have to pack them up and take them home.
-ethan
My last PDP11 restoration to do yet is a 11/34 in an H960 cabinet (I'm
skipping the /45 for now, jumping over it to maintain sanity and until help
strikes me upside the head). I believe the only thing I'm missing to start
the /34 project is a set of the "tip up and lock" rails for the /34 cpu
itself. Anyone have a set they'd like to trade or sell? I have to get back
to classic computing restoration or the basement will continue to decrease
in space instead of increase ;)
Jay
OT: not actually classic systems but interesting and/or useful as DEC
hardware
I am working my way through storage. Several DEC PCs need a new home as
well as an MV3100-80, several DEC SCSI drives and cables, etc. The PCs are
not 'classic' but are part of the DEC story. All free with the caveat that
you will not turn around and sell off the systems or memory--people with
sharp pointy oscilloscope probes will visit you in the night if you do. I
will, however, never turn away donations of cash or Guinness, to support
body and soul. The units have been in climate managed storage for what
that's worth. I am in metro-west Boston, MA and will deliver within a
reasonable distance. I will also ship anything if you cover costs. Photos
of systems avail at: http://chinalake.home.comcast.net/decstuff/index.html .
Queries to whatpdp at chinalake com.
Cheers, -jim
------------------------------
DEC PCs:
No keyboards or external cables unless noted. If there is some special
cable needed, I can dig around in the boxes.
Digital PCP12 386/25 laptop (~1992/93?)
Also seen w/ Panasonic label in RS stores
Interesting note is the integrated mouse
Have docs, power, spare battery, and util disk
DEC Celebris Pentium 166/133
Slim case design w/ 16 bit ISA (AT) and PCI
Removable cache card and processor power factor card
Have the green/blue "Celebris" label - Removed when evaling
and never got back on. Have docs and disks.
DEC Workstation 200i2 Dual PPro/180 or 200
Could come configured either as intel or Alpha by swapping
a good chunk of the system board. Not as neat a design as
the 486/ST intel/Alpha. Friction latch for front is broken
off--mostly a cosmetic issue. Docs and disks. Orig shipped with
the two RZ28D scsis below, but now had IDE on built in controller.
Collector has first dibs on the drives. Controller when I can locate
it (apaptec 2940W). This system's last job was running some flavour of
S/370 via Hercules on Linux.
DEC DECpc 486 Workstation "Clam Shell" PCW10-A2
Slim design. Connected via a short SCSI cable to its
SCSI storage unit. Together it had a clam-like appearance.
Support for LK keyboard and had a large Appina video board
DEC DECpc Storage box for the DECpc PCWXE-A2
Two HH 5.25 openings and one hidden (holding RZ24-LE)
Have the connecting cable for this unit. The unit is
generic SCSI, but I will only dispose of it with the PC.
There is also a VAXMate if I can find it.
In a month or two, two SOLs and Helios drives will be up on ebay.
---------------------------
MV 3100-80
RAM: 72 megs
Storage: Two RZ25
Ext SCSI (AMP 50 connector) w/ term
DWS41
Usual three MMJ ports, etc.
AUI-10-baseT adapter (not the term shown, I still need him)
White DEC T + 2 50-ohm thinnet terms
NON-DEC SCSI CR-ROM in external box if you want it
----------------------------
Misc:
-New DEC 15 foot thinnet + 2 T and 4 terms (this is the white molded cable
and connectors)
-Grey 5' BNC RGB cable - maybe off the GIGIs and/or from BARCOs
-DEC BC09J-03 MV 3100 SCSI cable - This the funky HD68 Female to AMP50
-DEC BCO6P-06 - six foot M-M AMP50 Right Angle SCSI
-4-32 MEG (128 megs) SIMMS from an old Jensen box Alpha. 72-PIN 70NS
Two are DEC and two are DATARAM
-3-button workstation mouse VSXXX-GA (7-pin critter, rectalgular body, not
the mickey version)
-BA350 storage cab, with term, dual power supplies, two fans + spare,
4 covers--I have the rest someplace
-TZ87 in cartridge for BA350 (will test)
-Locating my box of internal SCSI CR-ROM drives-any takers when I do?
-Gigatrend SL Turbo DAT (DDS1 me thinks) external scsi box
---------------------------
3.5 SCSI drives:
(2) RZ28D (wide)
(1) RZ28
(1) RZ28B
Numerous of 50 pin SCSI ribbon cables 2,3,5 connectors
Some Wide also
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>From my googling, I can see that this is a 16-channel CMOS
multiplexer. I have 3 here, harvested from a university-built bit of
laboratory hardware and I'm wondering if I can put them to use in
something. What I lack is a pinout or any detailed specs.
Anyone have any in-depth info on the MX-1606?
Thanks,
-ethan