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by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

Dave McGuire wrote: > On Nov 22, 2006, at 8:05 PM, Charles H. Dickman wrote: >> I also have DT2769, DT3371 and DT3382 boards without documentation. >> I emailed Data Translation for any support information and they >> didn't have any "at hand", but would get me copies from their >> archives for a service charge of US$50 or something. Since I didn't >> really have any use for them, whatever they were, I passed. >> >> The DT2769 is a KWV11-C Programmable Real-Time Clock. If you look >> in the Micro/PDP-11 Handbook page 214, the boards are essentially >> identical. Yes, I had noticed that they are very, very similar. In fact the system (see more below) that contains all of these DT boards, also contains a real KWV11. Why the system needs both is also a mystery to me... >> >> The analog hybrid (?) block on the DT3382 is the same as that on >> the ADV11. The DC006 and DC010 chips indicate that it does DMA. >> >> Never figured out the DT3371 either. It has two analog outputs >> though. :-) It also does DMA (DC006 and DC010 again). You both may be interested in having a look at the system that these boards all came in. It is a Data Translations LAB DATAX box with an H9275A backplane and, by the time I got it, an LSI-11/2 CPU. The front panel is really also the rear panel. There is a DLV11-J with four serial lines brougth to 9-pin D connectors, and some BNC-type connectors for signals in and out from the box. What kind of software goes with it I don't know, but I do see the system auto-booting to some roms on the DT3382-8DI board (I think) and I wonder if just starts processing when powered up. Don't know for sure. There is a label on the underside of the top cover that I believe represents the original configuration when it came out of DT: 1- KDF11 & KEF11AA | D4 Interface 2- DLV-11-J (177560) | 256KB Memory 3- LDT3382-DI (771420) -> 4- LDT2768 (167770) | LDT3371 (771140 / 420) 5- LDT2769 (170420) | (empty) 6- (empty) | (empty) 7- (empty) | (empty) 8- (empty) | (empty) 9- KPV-11-A (177546) | (empty) I have no idea what the 'D4 Interface' is. It's no longer in the box. I've added a couple of images of the box to my Mystery Boards webpage: http://www.rogerwilco.org/mystery_boards/#DATAX > I'd not mind getting my grubby paws on those Data Translation > boards if you or J want to unload them, maybe some swappage or > something. I do lots of related hacking and would likely pop for the > $50 for the docs before too long so they can be used. (and get them > to Al of course) Thanks for the interest. For now, though, I think I'll hang on to this DT gear since it looks to be a 'system'. Perhaps I should spring for the $50 doc set. How long ago did you make your inquiry to DT? >> Didn't Data Translation always have the company presidents face in >> every advertisement? I can see the face, but don't remember the >> name... [Google for it] Fred Molinari. > He was rather hilarious in many of their ads...that always gave me > a laugh. Oh...ahhh...before my time, I guess. I must have missed that 'show'. J

19 years, 6 months

Mystery Q-bus boards

by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

Charles H. Dickman wrote: > Notes on the Clearpoint Q-RAM 44B memory card > {snip} Chuck, this is good information! After reviewing your supplied info, I got to fiddling with my board. As it turns out, there was a hand-written sticky label (with just the number "225" on it) on the module handle. Must have been some previous owners ID tag. Well, it's old enough that with my handling, it started to fall off, so I just peeled it away. Underneath I found a small, but machine printed, label that reads "44B". Though the etched markings indicate "11B", I must have the same board that you have! With that found out, I was confident in your information and tried the board in an 11/73 system. Sure enough it works great! All 2MB (1MW) is visible and though I haven't run any serious memory tests, STRTRK runs fine under RT11. For the record (and if you don't mind that I borrow your artwork) here are my jumper configurations for 000000 base address; 256Kb chips; 2MB (1MW) memory size; parity CSR at standard; and 22-bit bus: 1 0 | A o== | | B o== 3 | o== 2 | o== 1 | | C ==o b1 | ==o b0 | | D o== 1M | o== 512k | o== 256k | | E o== 21 F ==o | o== 20 ==o | o== 19 ooo | o== 18 | ---| | | ----------------------------- A: 18 bit Q-Bus 1 = 18bit, 0 = 22bit B: Parity Memory CSR Address base address is 17772100 + bit jumpers C: Chip size select b1: bank 1: 1 = 256k chips, 0 = 64k chips b0: bank 0: 1 = 256k chips, 0 = 64k chips D: Memory Size 1M: 1 = 2M, 0 = 1M 512k: 1 = 1M, 0 = 512k 256k: 1 = 512k, 0 = 256k E: Base address 1 = adr bit, 0 = adr bit F: ? I don't know how your F jumpers are set, but mine (as indicated above) don't seem to hurt. Until we can find some documentation, I'm just going to leave them the way they are. (Yes, F1 and F2 are jumpered to the left (1), and F3 is removed altogether.) Thanks a lot! J

19 years, 6 months

Special HD20 INIT file

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Apple apparently made a special INIT file for the HD20 (non SCSI HD that connected to the back of a Mac 128K or 512K using the 19 pin floppy port) so that unsupported machines (like an SE/30) could read the drive and copy the files from it (but not write to it). Anybody here happen to have a copy of this special INIT file? Somebody has some data they need off the drive (he is in Japan) and only has an SE/30 to use. Anything pre Nubus is out of my experience level so I figured somebody here might have the file needed. Thanks, TZ

19 years, 6 months

Looking for AIX 4.1.5 or .6

by g-wright＠att.net

Hi, I have PowerPc ThinkPad that needs a early version of AIX 4.1.5 or .6. Anyone have a copy. The one I have has it on the drive but no Password. Thanks, Jerry Jerry Wright

19 years, 6 months

A request...

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Can we please depricate use of the non-word "stuph"? Unless of course we have 'l33t d00dz" on this list that can't help but make up annoying spellings of words. I much prefer clarity and correct spelling to "coolness" on this list. Thanks! Al Phila, PA

19 years, 6 months

cctalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 60

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Let's not. Since it was an unintentional spelling error, as opposed to a non-word. Al cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Excellent. Let's talk about "depricate." > > > > Peace, > > Warren E. Wolfe > wizard at voyager.net

19 years, 6 months

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> So its not granting it carte > blanche for every person, but it is good news for those of us who run > actual museums or archives. What museum/archive are you associated with? "csd.uwm.edu" would be the Computing Services Division of the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, where I worked in the early 80's. At least back then, there was no archive associated with CSD. --al (Software Curator, Computer History Museum)

19 years, 6 months

wtd - pc tech journals

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

86 and prior. I have some from 86-87, so trades are also of interest. And if anyone (even Pat ;) should need an issue or article, cram it! LOL LOL only kidding ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

19 years, 6 months

On.T. Pionex P1-200MMX system tower , needs a new home. Actual shipping + $8.00 for effort and materials.

by whdawson＠nidhog.net

<lurk off> Before I offer this on the local Freecycle maybe there's someone here that would want it. Solidly built and has lots of expandability, a very well laid out Wintel box. Lots of room. Currently running Windows 95 OSR2B and has passed memtest, very stable & very clean. According to the current rules this is OnT. If I offend anyone, please accept my apologies. I don't want to start a war, I only want a fellow collector to have this "classic" machine, if wanted. I just don't have any more room and can't stash it away. Those of you that have been here know what I mean. Motherboard is a BioStar MP-8500TVG with i430VX chipset (Details can be found on archive.org (wayback machine)). Can take AMI, Cyrix and Intel processors. Also will take a P1-233MMX. AMI BIOS (TVG0819 1995) 51-0819-001223-00111111-071595-82430VX-H (nice BIOS) 4 PCI slots, 4 ISA slots. 2 USB ports 2 serial, 1 parallel. 3GB hard drive, IDE (1.36 GB free) 2 empty 3-1/2 hard drive bays! 1 CDROM, unknown speed, IDE Standard 3-1/2 1.2MB floppy drive. 3 empty 5-1/4 bays! Pentium 200MMX (Socket 7) 512K L2 cache (verified with cachechk) 32MB memory (2x16 pin 72 pin). There are 2 more empty 72 pin memory sockets and 2 168 pin sockets. Mix and match is OK, I tried it and it works (with older non SPD chip 168 pin memory). Also takes EDO. S3 Virge PCI video Ensonique PCI sound 200W Bestec power supply. Various software applications of the Win95 Era and a few newer (of the Orifice 2K persuasion) others. RingCentral 4.0: Phone Answering Machine application with mailboxes and Faxing software (sorry, I'm likely keeping the installed ViVa 56LC-SM modem, but the this application should work with any voice modem if you want to use this box as an answering machine. A few cheap-bottle-of-wine $s would convince me to leave the ViVa modem in). I'm in Washington, PA, zip code 15301. Pick up to save shipping and effort costs is OK. Email me directly if interested at pionex_at_ss-50_dot_com. Regards, Bill http://www.swtpc.com </lurk off> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

19 years, 6 months

Happy Thanksgiving!

by ploopster＠gmail.com

To all of those in the US, happy Thanksgiving. To all of those not in the US, please forgive the waste of bandwidth. 8-) Peace... Sridhar

19 years, 6 months

sanyo lat-200a

by fa475919＠skynet.be

Well, Tony, that probably is a good question, but honestly I do not know for sure. My own guess is also that this particular card worked for the crashed harddrive only... The card consists out of 2 rather big main processors from what I can tell : - SMS OMTI 20516B (84 pins) - SMS OMTI 20513 (84 pins) And then some other smaller components from: - SMS OMTI J20527C - ZILOG Z86C9112VSC All other components are pretty much mainstream Mhz-crystals and small diodes/resistors The board is about the size of half a CD-box and has no power connection, only the 50 pins cable from the motherboard and the 26 pins cable to the harddrive... Greetz

19 years, 6 months

Happy Thanksgiving!

by cheri-post＠web.de

Well, what about the Americans who live outside the US ? ;-) Pierre > > To all of those in the US, happy Thanksgiving. > > To all of those not in the US, please forgive the waste of bandwidth. 8-) > > Peace... Sridhar _______________________________________________________________________ Viren-Scan f?r Ihren PC! Jetzt f?r jeden. Sofort, online und kostenlos. Gleich testen! http://www.pc-sicherheit.web.de/freescan/?mc=022222

19 years, 6 months

"Teletype magnetic tape unit"?

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

--- Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: > What the heck is this thing, anyone know? > > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite m=320053338394&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1> > > -- I don't think anyone else has replied yet, but a quick google search for "Teletype Model 40" found this amongst others. It looks to be correct (see the last pic on the page). http://www.baudot.net/teletype/M40.htm Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

19 years, 6 months

Classiccmp in NZ (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

o thats right pengies live in the n.hemisphere. But with all this talk of global warming, perhaps a few will move in before long... --- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/24/06, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > off the ice as in S.Pole? Crikeys mate you must be > > having the time! Smack a penguin for me, ay? ;) > > Yes... off the Ice as in South Pole. > > No penguins there... nothing to eat at the Pole (nearest water is > hundreds of miles away). They are too smart to go there; humans > aren't. ;-) > > -ethan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

19 years, 6 months

FPGAs, unobtanium and FPJ11s

by bqt＠softjar.se

Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> skrev: > > The thought occurred to me that it might be nice to have the > floating-point option in my PDP-11/73. Since I haven't got one, and > don't fancy paying the $500 or so that some online sellers seem to be > asking (do they really expect to sell *any*, never mind at that price?), > I was wondering how easy it would be to implement in an FPGA as was > discussed at length earlier in the week. > > Feasible, or a complete waste of time? Presumably I'd need software > written to make use of the floating-point hardware anyway... > > Gordon. Can't really answer your primary question, but to fill in some information for you, the FPA for the J11 is an *accelerator* (hence FPA, and not FPP). It will not add any instructions to the CPU. The J11 already implements all the instructions of the FP11. What the FPA do is speed them up. And software wise, there is plenty of software that uses the FP11 instructions. Mostly high level languages, though. Johnny

19 years, 6 months

Classiccmp in NZ (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 11/24/06, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote: > Pierre Gebhardt wrote: > > Well, what about the Americans who live outside the US ? ;-) > > Well, happy Thanksgiving to y'all too! > > Peace... Sridhar Strangely enough, I find myself in that category... After 13+ months, I'm back off the Ice and thawing out in NZ for a number of weeks. While there's a small chance I'll make it up to Hamilton before New Years, I think this trip, I'll mostly be on the South Island. If there are any Classiccmpers in Christchurch or Dunedin who wouldn't mind a visit, drop me a line, off-list, and we can go for a beer or equivalent. -ethan

19 years, 6 months

Classiccmp in NZ (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

off the ice as in S.Pole? Crikeys mate you must be having the time! Smack a penguin for me, ay? ;) --- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/24/06, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote: > > Pierre Gebhardt wrote: > > > Well, what about the Americans who live outside the US ? ;-) > > > > Well, happy Thanksgiving to y'all too! > > > > Peace... Sridhar > > Strangely enough, I find myself in that category... > > After 13+ months, I'm back off the Ice and thawing out in NZ for a > number of weeks. While there's a small chance I'll make it up to > Hamilton before New Years, I think this trip, I'll mostly be on the > South Island. If there are any Classiccmpers in Christchurch or > Dunedin who wouldn't mind a visit, drop me a line, off-list, and we > can go for a beer or equivalent. > > -ethan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

19 years, 6 months

Tandy GT2000 Digitizer Tablet

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

Got one, but no stylus, cable or docs/drivers. Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to use it with a model 2000 of course. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

19 years, 6 months

Amiga Quiz

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

--- Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > wrote: > >> snip << > Yeah but at least I knew that the 68010 was never > used in an original 'miga. Actually I'm at a > terrible > loss to name the unit that used a 68020 BUT AT LEA ST > I > GOT IT RIGHT! HA! > That's easy. The Amiga CD32 (I own one). I got all the A600 related questions right, which is good as I own two :) Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

19 years, 6 months

FA : ED-Lab 980 Microcomputer Lab

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

Hi, Seems 2 units are for auction. What it is I don't know, but it look like an old Moog ;-) http://dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=tbd295149 -- Stephane Paris, France.

19 years, 6 months

MicroPower/Pascal

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I put an introductory manual up under pdp11/rt11/micropowerPascal on bitsavers. There is a five volume manual set for the product, which doesn't appear to be in the CHM archives. Looks like that would be a good thing to be on the lookout for.

19 years, 6 months

Free H9642 rack in Milpitas CA

by bob＠jfcl.com

I have more racks than I can use (or store), so I have one, maybe two, to give away. It's just the bare rack - no sides, door or top, but it does have casters and it's free :-) Pickup only in Milpitas CA. Bob Armstrong

19 years, 6 months

OT - 486 w/newer IDE drives

by kelly＠catcorner.org

> > Does anyone really care about the smaller (<2GB) 3.5" drives anymore? > I've been wiping and recycling the ones that I have--is this a > mistake? I've still got a few old <1GB Conner drives if anyone's > interested. Some <4GB WD's and Quantums also. > I use them in support of the old packet network here in New Jersey. If anyone is throwing away the smaller drives let me know. I'll take them for the price of shipping. I could use 5 or 6 less than 540 meg drives. A typical packet backbone node using flex net takes less than 10 meg, and runs comfortably in a 486/66 with 16 meg of RAM. Kelly

19 years, 6 months

Ultrix Distribution tapes - what do they all mean?

by bob＠jfcl.com

I was lucky enough to be able to borrow a box of random Ultrix TK50 distribution tapes. Unfortunately I have to give it back, but before I do I'd like to be able do a complete Ultrix installation on some system that I have. The printed labels on the tapes are somewhat cryptic, however - here's a sampling of what I have DECNET-ULTRIX V2.0 BIN ULTRIX-32W V1.0 BIN ULTRIX WS 1.1 UNSUPP VAX C/ULTRIX V1.0 ULTRIX-32 V2.0 SUPPORTED ULTRIX-32 V2.0 STAND ALONE / ULTRIX TK50 #1 ULTRIX WS V2.0 (RISC) FORTRAN FOR RISC V1.0 ULTRIX AND UWS (VAX) UNSUPPORTED SUBSETS ULTRIX/UWS T4.0A-1 (RISC) / SUPPORTED VOL 1 Dumb question #1 - I assume that the ones that say (VAX) are VAX, and the ones that say (RISC) are PMAX/MIPS, but are the ones that don't specify (e.g. "DECNET-ULTRIX V2.0" or "ULTRIX-32W V1.0 BIN") also assumed to be VAX? What actually constitutes a complete Ultrix base system distribution? Is it three tapes - SUPPORTED, UNSUPPORTED, and (if necessary) WORKSTATION ? Are the SUPPORTED tapes supposed to be bootable? Roughly what hardware is supported by the VAX versions? I would guess a MicroVAX/VAXstation-II/2000 should work, but what about a KA650/655 (uVAX-III/III+) ? Was there any Ultrix version that ran on a VAXstation-4000/60/90/VLC? Does the DECNET version correspond to the Ultrix version (e.g. DECNET V2.0 for Ultrix V2.0)? Probably the most important question - are there any scanned Ultrix SPDs and/or installation instructions online anywhere? This would probably answer all my other questions :-) Thanks, Bob Armstrong

19 years, 6 months

RL01 directory listings

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> MPP15 .DSK 3500P 29-Jul-84 I'll see if I can dig up anything on uP Pascal in the archives. I've never actually seen a copy. > Another question - if under RT11 5.04, a disk pack shows "invalid > directory"... doesn't that rule out RSX and RSTS packs? Nope.. RT can't read either. You can normally guess the file system type by an ASCII dump of the first block or two.

19 years, 6 months

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